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Nomura ruined Final Fantasy Versus XIII/XV and walked away
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All of the stuff that's controversial about XV right now is Tabata trying to stay true to Nomura's lopsided "vision".
The all male cast? Nomura wanted it
The all black clothing? Nomura, again

He screwed everything up and jumped ship to take credit for VII. I wonder what this game could have been had it not been touched by him.

Bet Lightning doesn't seem so bad now, huh guys?
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Nomura is the cancer killing FF
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>>319247314
>nomura wanted
stopped spreading your lies, if his vision was in the game it would be the goddess lightning and her little edgy puppets.
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Square kept him in his kennel and had him do some basic design.

Square Enix is letting him walk all over them.
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>>319247314
>The all male cast? Nomura wanted it
Nothing wrong with an all male cast, fuck off waifu faggot.

>The all black clothing?
Nothing wrong with all black clothing. Fuck off edgy faggot.

>He screwed everything up and jumped ship to take credit for VII. I wonder what this game could have been had it not been touched by him.
You don't know anything about development, fuck off.

>Bet Lightning doesn't seem so bad now, huh guys?
Worst protagonist in the history of FF. Fuck off.
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>>319247865
That's Toriyama.
And Lightning and friends are a lot better than Sasuke and his shitty gay boyband friends going on some fruity road trip.
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>>319248745
there is nothing wrong with being gay.
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>>319247314

You're actually fully correct, OP. Good job.

Too bad Square-Enix' other character designers are also bad, so we'll never be rid of Nomura fully even if they were to kick him out of all director roles in the future.
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>>319247314
Can you at least mention something he did wrong? An all male cast and the outfits aren't bad at all. But if he legitimately did something to fuck it up, at least tell me
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>>319248745

Would actually be good if it was a fruity roadtrip, but even though they look like they were rounded up from the local gay bar, I'm sure they'll all be straight anyway.
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>>319248978
There is however something wrong with looking effeminate, which these guys do, especially their leader Sasuke. He needs to take his ass back to Naruto. Lightning is manlier than he is.

>>319249405
An all male cast is fine, but not when they look like a shitty boyband from Japan. And their outfits are so bland, just black black and more black. Are they going to a fucking funeral?
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>>319247314
I don't see the problem.
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>>319249939
And XV is for you. The rest of us who don't want fruity shit will enjoy FF 7 Remake, which already looks better anyway.
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>>319248109

Are you honestly defending all black clothing by calling the other person the edgy faggot? Are you retarded?
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>>319249779

Whats funny is that main character Noctis, or whatever his goofy ass name is, has a pretty feminine run animation.
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Oh its one of "this" threads.
You want us to shame you,right OP? Why wont you just say it? Why do you have to act as a faggot, huh? You cock craving slut. you like that dont you? you want to be insulted, shamed, bullied. I bet you get off of all this (You's). Well heres another, you meme loving fuck, I hope you find enjoyment in this threads without an actual topic, because Im sure as hell tired of your shit,eat shit and root in hell you fucking clown
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>>319248109
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>>319250391
Modern Cloud and Sephiroth's designs are fruity as fuck
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>>319251271

There's never been a non fruity design in Final Fantasy.
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>>319247314
None of that shit is controversial, also if Tabata tried to stay true to Nomura's vision he wouldn't have dropped from the FNC series.

>Bet Lightning doesn't seem so bad now, huh guys?

Toriyama plz.
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>that's controversial about XV
Nothing except the exclusion of airships to maybe post-release free DLC?
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>>319250971
You're just mad because Lightning ended up a better design than these shit boyband buttbuddies in FF XV.
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>There are people who actually prefer Noctis over Clarie "BUILT FOR SEX!" Farron

What.
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>>319248109
All black clothing is the only thing I find wrong about FFXV.
I don't view it as Edgy, Just severely lacking in creativity. Fuck man, Nomura is the guy who made the fucking models for FFX and X-2. The fact he went with nothing but black is simply fucking baffling.
The monsters look phenomenal. Why is everyone's clothes monotone?
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>>319254989
Because his stupid ass wants to make it as "fantasy based on reality", despite the fact it's faggy girly boys fighting giant monsters in empty grassfields. Sure is reality.
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>>319247314
I like 13 tho tbqh senpai
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>>319257583
Because a demo of a game that isn't finished is a 100% accurate representation of absolutely everything available in FFXV right?
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>>319247314
>>Bet Lightning doesn't seem so bad now, huh guys?
Nope

Still bad

Fuck Lightning, fuck XIII
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>>319258051
>Fuck Lightning

You wish.

Why is she so goddamn sexy?
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daily reminder that nomura create KHfags aka the most retard fans in the world next to ponyfags.
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>>319259590
Until September 15 of this year, they became third.
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>>319247865
>>319248745
And besides if it was Toriyama, wouldn't Lightning be the goddess instead of Etro?

is this even about Etro anymore
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>>319259590
did you get lost on your way to /b/?
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Going to laugh when XV bombs and sinks the company, and FF7 ends half way through its episodes
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>>319259759
What happen in september 15?
Fallout 4?
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>>319259590
Nah, that's Homestuck. Like Homestuck fags are legitimately banned from the cons I go to.
>>319259759
Those are Homestuck fags, anon. I kind of feel bad for Toby. Undertale's a legit fun game but anything he does is going to be forever invaded by Homestuck fags because he made music for it.
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>>319247314
I never found the FF13 series as bad. So nothing changed there.
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>>319251987
hahahahaha no
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>>319259105
she isn't
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>>319260095
>>when XV bombs
>Final Fantasy
>bombing
>ever

You are going to be extremely disappointed my friend.
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None of that is even remotely as bad as XIII.
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>>319247314
Fuck you. I bet you like Amano.
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>>319247314
No, lightning still seems bad. We know nothing about the plot of 15, but we do know 13 was bad in that regard. What we do know is that its an expansive and innovative game, which in terms of gameplay far exceeds 13.
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>>319249779
>something wrong with looking effeminate

Not in japan. Burly men are equated with homosexuality more often there. Which makes sense. Why would a gay man want someone who looks like a girl?
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What's so bad about an all male cast? You need a waifu to ogle at for 40+ hours?
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>>319247314
Lightning never seemed bad, she's amazing.
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>>319261250

What's wrong with Amano? He's a concept artist. The most of his stuff that ever made it into a game as-is was character portraits(that weren't that bad) and box covers.

I'm pretty sure he didn't even have input into any of the games beyond that.
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Take this stupid shit back to GameFAGs
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>playing modern RPGs

No thanks, I don't like the latest Skyrim rehash and lates Final Fantasy rehash. I've yet to ever see a good RPG that wasn't one of these. Can anyone ITT give me a title which proves me wrong?

And before you argue your case with your special unique snowflake RPG, let me take a crack at what it has.

>either a gruff white male, or a sissy femboy as a protagonist
>one dimensional forced love interest
>wacky sidekick
>tolkien fantasy or wacky randum sci-fi future
>over 1 hour of cutscenes and talking
>filler sidequests
>a bland villain

I'd be surprised if you could name even one that didn't have almost all of these.
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>>319253806
>built for sex
Lightning is a fucking stick figure, fuck off Toriyama
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>>319262219

This is the most clever bait to bring Neptunia shitposting into a thread that I've ever seen.

Bravo, anon. I'll gladly bite for it.
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>>319254989
the costumes were not designed by Nomura, they were designed by Japanese fashion brand Roen

This is also why SE cannot change the designs now, they have a big-money contract with the label
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>>319262219
bloodborne or divinity original sin
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>>319262219
Dark Souls
Fuck off retard
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>>319262219
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen.
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>>319262672
>>319262582
>>319262507

I said RPGs, not hack and slash games. Just because they have stats that level up does not an RPG make.

I'll never understand why people consider them RPGs.
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>>319247314
nah she still is terrible
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>>319262494

Neps are too cute.
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>>319262862
the first video game rpg lacked dialogue choices so its not a requirement and divinity OS isn't an arpg
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>>319248109
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>>319263229

I never said RPGs needed dialogue choices.
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>>319254989
It's thematically relevant, because Lucis is a nation that worships death.
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>>319262496
Come on, I know Japanese fashion is a bit different than what we're used to in the West but no way this is gonna be the hot new look of 2016 or whenever the fuck this game finally comes out.
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>>319260147
Tumblrtale
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>>319247314
>The all male cast? Nomura wanted it
>The all black clothing? Nomura, again

>nomuuuras vision
>cloud-alikes obvious tropes from the series
>open world nonsense no more corridors
>no animu girls, in fact the only girl characters look like flat bioware creations with convex/concave asses and breasts
>ripoff about eight or seven other games made obvious by the few teasers here and there.

This game looks like shit but it aint because one dudes "vision" it's because the series has been lost and on a death spiral for a while now. The sales just haven't reflected the reality of the situation because japan, mall-goths and Square-fuck bois still buy the games.
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>>319262862
If you ain't role playing in a souls game or dragon's dogma you're doing it wrong. You need a bunch of cutscenes and written dialogue to become immersed in a character's story? Hell just being able to create the character you're playing as in itself is a step up in role playing from something like final fantasy
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>>319260946

>implying the series isn't on thin ice after the XIII catastrophe
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>>319263568
Consider that this was the hot fashion just a few years ago

and right now in the US the hot fashion is black leather sweatpants

It's not that far-fetched
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>>319263368
then why isn't it an rpg?
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>>319265491
>leather
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>>319248109
I agree with this nigga, it's all fine. It's only waifu fags that care. Lightning was awful and you should feel ashamed for liking her. FF15 is going to sell well and is going to be a great game.
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>>319247314

Except Tabata is an obvious liar.
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>He screwed everything up and jumped ship to take credit for VII
I am pretty sure Nomura mentioned that he didn't want to be the director for FFVII Remake in the first place.
He was assigned to be the director by upper management without his consent since the team thought he will be the perfect guy in directing it.
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He also doing it with FF7 Remake now. It'll be episodic linear game (like FFXIII).
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XV is going to fail horribly and i hope S-E goes under because of it
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>>319265978
It's not like XV is lacking in waifus, either.
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>>319267421
>basic white bitch

no thanks
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>>319247314
Fuck off Exiled_Tonberry
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>>319248745
Noctis and his bros are going on a trip around the world to get revenge on Niflheim for destroying his kingdom and stealing his crystal, and for killing his father, Noctis is claiming his birthright and in the process will rapidly age into an old man

Lightning literally fucking plays barbie dress up and has less of an ass than any of the guys in XV
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>>319267541
>white

kek. bet you think some fugly congo ape would be an upgrade too
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>>319249779
You must be fucking blind

They are wearing black because they are from an organisation from the same kingdom where they wear black modern attire like suits and modern clothes in general, and it's to contrast with Niflheim who wear white robes and medieval armor

Noctis is less effeminate than any other FF protag an will also rapidly age into an old man during the course of the game, and show me how Gladio, Cor, Ignis, Regis, Cid, Iedolas, etc are somehow effeminate too

None of them even look Japanese either you retard
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>>319250391
XV is already more manlier than anything in FF7, especially when 7 literally has a cross dressing MC you fucking retard

Also Sephiroth the fucking king of bishie faggots.


XV already looks better in every single way compared to 7 and the remake.
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>>319250630

>Noctis, or whatever his goofy ass name is

Are you thirteen or from the american south?
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>>319259105

>builtforsex.jpg

So eleven year old boys are built for sex?
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>>319263568
Noctis has different outfits

He wears a suit and he wears those other clothes as his casual moving around clothes

There will also be other alternate outfits.


Also those clothes were designed in 2010, and they are pretty simple attire

Short sleeved coat, T shirt, shorts, boots, glove

The only JRPG flair about his outfit is the glove.
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I'm glad the Japanese developers are making games targeting our home field demographics. Maybe fewer mouth breathing gaijins will be butting into my favorite hobby. Stinking pigs.
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>>319268862

I want to inseminate that factory worker's white trash womb.
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>>319267541
There is four main females revealed in XV so far, one of them has yet to have her name revealed.

They are
Gen, Gentiana is her full first name
Luna, Lunafreya is her full first name
Cidney
And the Dragoon woman who has yet to have her name revealed.
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XV will be bad because I want to marry Lightning!

Nyoro~n
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>>319247314
None of the shit you named is inherently negative or can be blamed on Nomura.
When this was still VSXIII, we didn't have some dumbass boy band in a shitty road trip, we had a Vergil copy edgelord on a political crusade.
The fact is that the shit Tabata did to turn this into FFXV reeks of pandering to the masses to make this a better sell because FF is in a desperate position right now.
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>>319269451

Women are faggots who lust for cock. XV confirmed for homosexuality.
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>>319269451
>not a single ass was found
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>>319267421
unplayable waifu is shit
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>>319269913
You blind nigger?

Luna is flaunting the widest ass and hips FF has ever had, bigger than Aeris, bigger than Fran.
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>>319267541
>basic
>white
Got just the girl for you, anon.

>>319268352
Lightning is literally perfect in every way.
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>>319268984
Yes.
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