Just as a reminder, this will not be possible in the remake.
>No Don Corneo trying to rape a fifteen year-old girl
>No Cloud x Yuffie date
>No Cloud x Barret date
>No casino owner wearing nothing but a speedo
>No Tifa x Scarlet slap fight
>No unzipped Yuffie short shorts
>No Hojo trying to breed Aeris and Red XIII in a giant glass tank while he watches
>No 2:06 minute long Supernova animation that plays at least five times during the final boss fight
>No bald floating weirdo as Red XIII's father
>>319242558
>No bald floating weirdo as Red XIII's father
why not? he was in the other things like that turks game
>>319244148
This one is too dark gritty and realistic for weird campy shit
>>319242558
>No casino owner wearing nothing but a speedo
FF14 has those
>>319242558
>waaah
>all these things possibly won't be in the remake
>they are changing the game too much!
>WAAAAA
You do know, that when this remake comes out, you can still play the old FF7, right?
It'll still exist. You sound almost as bad as those fucking loses crying it isn't a turn based game anymore. No fucking shit it isn't, FF has moved far away from turn based gameplay, you'd really think they would have done it?
>>319242558
>supernova playing five times during the fight
People were bad enough at this game that they had to see it more than once?
>>319244473
Yes it still exists, but it badly needs a new coat of paint, and a more portable engine. Instead of doing that they're building an entirely different game calling it FF7 and breaking it up into a bunch of parts so they can milk as much money out of it as they can.
Its like if George Lucas had taken Star Wars and recast all the characters, redid all the special effects, inserted four additional hours of shitty CG musical numbers and then broke it up into three parts that each cost $59.99. All I wanted was the original in HD.
>>319242558
>yuffie's unzipped short shorts
motherfucking sjws
>>319242558
>No Cloud x Yuffie date
Why? Isn't she 16?
>>319245424
>All I wanted was the original in HD.
You already got that, the remastered version came out on PC not too long ago.
This was never going to be a straight 1:1 remake, I'm sure everyone knew the game had to change, because its been over a fucking decade, and games have changed majorly.
The story will be the same, it'll have the same parts, it just will play differently.
Be glad you can experience something new. And if you don't like it, hey, you got your old shit to go to.
Hopefully they do a good job, but in the end, we aren't losing anything.
>>319245760
not him, but fuck that.
There's no fucking reason we can't get the game with a battle system similar to Dragon Quest 9. Turn-based, but the characters and monsters move around the battlefield as they act their turns out.
>>319245760
>You already got that, the remastered version came out on PC not too long ago.
That didn't even come close to being that. Seriously, why does the game have to be shitty plastic dolls in serious dark lighting instead of going with an aesthetic that actually fits the game?
>The story will be the same
Except that it won't be. Just like how Barbwire has the same basic story as Casablanca but one is a classic and the other sucks horribly.
Final Fantasy 7 desperately needs to be restored the way art is restored by professionals. Instead we're getting something like that crazy lady who thought she could re-paint a masterpiece.
>>319242558
I like FFVII and all but that looks fucking retarded, imagine that with the new graphics. That's what ATB fags want.
>>319246043
Because its outdated as fuck, theres no reason to keep turn based random encounter.
Thats like making witcher 3 and keeping that shit combat system from the first one. Fuck that.
>>319246461
>speculation
You don't know they are going to fuck the story up, and I highly doubt that they would. There is no reason for them to just fuck with it.
This is classic /v/ looking for an excuse to be mad about something.
>>319246461
Is this all because they made the game an ARPG? Jesus fucking christ.
Seriously, the original game still exists.
Anyone else think barret should be huskier? In 7 he's more stocky and just big like a bear. In the remake he looks too skinny cut
>>319246043
There's no reason it has to be turn-based either.
>>319246710
He doesn't look skinny at all, in the original he looked cartoonishly wide. He looks fucking fine in the remake. Cloud looks almost fine but needs a little more meat on his arms. Jesse, Vicks and Wedge look kinda shitty, they translated the designs from the first one 1:1, and they look goofy as a result. Well, the fatso and the girl do, the other dude's fine.
>>319246694
It's also because they announced the game will be split across multiple episodes, which could endanger the concept of the open world map.
>>319246647
>You don't know they are going to fuck the story up
They can't help it, the art style they've chosen for the remake is either going to make a lot of the games content incredibly awkward and jarring, or its going to make them cut a lot of things out. Its like that scene in FF10 where they're laughing. If the aesthetic of the game had been different and there's been no voice acting it wouldn't have come off as awkward as it did.
I don't remember Yuffie with unzipped short shorts. Can anyone provide pics?
>>319246647
>>319246715
Fuck you both. No, seriously. Not mad, not trying to cop-out and end the argument.
But fuck you. The both of you.
AI-controlled Kingdom Hearts mess is fucked. It sucks.
A really well-done, cinematic turn-based battles would work very well.
Random encounters could be left to the overworld. The rest of the areas could have more of a linear approach with tougher battles that you only fight once.
This shit isn't hard.
>>319247075
Like...MULTIPLE DISKS?
>>319246614
>not wanting to suplex giant monsters
>implying you need ATB for a grappling attack
>>319247158
>>319247413
That's more unbuttoned than unzipped.
>>319247158
>>319246715
The notion that turn based is outdated is fucking stupid. And arpgs like kh are silly, a Hud and mechanics which are designed for turn based or atb can't just transition to action it doesn't do much except make everything more actiony which is pointless. It does nothing in game play terms, if this was like mgr, dmc, ng, or gow well then okay that's a serious action game with lots of depth and combo possibilities. But in these arpgs you just spam the same 3 to 4 hit combo whIle ignoring magic and summons because there's just no point in it really.
Honestly if this shit was actually good people would like square more, if it was actually good a lot more people would be positive about it but truthfully its not very good. Notice people have increasingly become negative towardo square since after X (the last great ff). Take that as you will but I think gaming and square in general is too young to realize what they're doing or just blind. This shit does not work and they may as well make it like your average hack and slash while having support characters
>>319247413
Wow, I had never noticed that.
>>319247091
I think the game looks pretty good so far, fits the rest of the world. Not sure what you are going on about.
>>319247285
>comparing kingdom hearts, the baby version of FF, to the most anticipated FF of all time
Are you really that fucking stupid?
The game had to evolve anon, and I'm sorry you are mad as fuck that it isn't going to have the same shitty gameplay in the first one, gameplay that only existed because of limitations, but thats okay. You can be mad and bitter, I guess I'll enjoy the remake.
And if its shit, I'll just go back to the original.
>>319246951
He doesn't look skinny exactly just slimmer than he does in the original
>>319247285
>A really well-done, cinematic turn-based battles would work very well.
They never do.
>>319247512
If it's not outdated, then there's no reason not to play the original. Why anyone would want Square to sink millions into a remaster of a 20 year old game is pretty incomprehensible to me.
>>319244208
Im sure they could do it. Just make him more mystical seeming. He might actually have to walk some, but Im sure they can have him levitating inside the solar system room
>>319247075
Maybe they're trying to replicate the whole switching discs thing
>more likely Jewry though
>>319247572
Yes, that's what I'm doing. I'm comparing the battle system in the FF7 remake to Kingdom Hearts.
Fight me, bro.
Turn-based can still be done in this day and age, and done right. It just takes some fucking creativity to make it work.
>>319247630
Because he's a blocky square of a cartoony man in the original.
With GIGANTIC FEET.
>>319242558
>No unzipped Yuffie short shorts
you just crossed the line motherfucker
>>319247285
This. I've been waiting for a modern looking FF with beautiful graphics for forever and now it isn't happening. The worst part is making it arpg makes the framerate and graphics worse. Look at XV the framerate is fucking atrocious
>>319247652
I am currently playing the original and it's still great but I'm just saying I've had more fun with turn based than I've ever had with arpg
>>319247779
But... Why would you. Having real time action combat is way more funsubjective I knowand exciting then sit and wait turn based.
I'm not saying I hate turn based, I don't. I'm saying that if they are going to remake the game, give us awesome graphics, might as well go the extra mile and give us good gameplay instead of sit and wait.
>>319247652
Because the background art was often sub-480p, the characters were laughably low detail, and the fmv video was terribly low quality.
We finally have the technology to make games that achieve the aesthetic that Final Fantasy 7 was going for, but instead we have them going for 'realism' that just isn't going to fit a lot of the game.
>>319247572
Okay. Keep in mind that a ton of content is going to be skimped from items to weapons to side content in favor of this fucking gameplay
>>319245760
>the remastered version came out on PC not too long ago
>remastered
it's just a rerelease on steam of the 1999 pc version.
>>319248314
Why exactly?
>>319248314
>speculation
But I'd gladly lose some items and some forgettable side content to ensure the gameplay is actually incredibly fun... Wouldn't you?
>>319248270
If you just want better graphics use mods. They improve models and textures a lot. No need to sink millions of dollars into it.
>>319242558
And your proof of all of this not going to be in the game is...?
>>319245562
Square doesn't give a shit about SJWs. Who's got the Tifa tit size chart?
>>319248615
>implying turn based combat can't be incredibly fun
>>319248624
So why doesn't SquareEnix do that? There's no reason for them to spend millions. Just do some restoration work on the crown jewels every so often. I don't see what's so objectionable to them to going to a more cartoony and simplistic art style of the sort used well by games like Dragon Quest 8 or Tales of Vesperia. That type of aesthetic would fit FF7 perfectly, this FF15 crap doesn't at all and costs way more to produce.
>>319248267
Because in a game like FF7 where you want to control the entire team at once is going to lose it's charm when you're leaving 2/3rds of the team to their own devices.
Why not have them moving around the battlefield as they attack each other? Imagine having it all moving in 'real time' as in each time you take an action it happens immediately, and every time the enemy's turn comes up, they do the same. It's all very fast-paced and nothing is holding back. When you're selecting an action on your team, there can be a sort of slow-mo thing going on. You make your selection, and the action immediately returns to real time. And imagine for example; Cloud's in the way of Barret's attack, so he yells out to him to get out of the way... or any character for that matter. Tifa, Aeris, Cid, what have you. They can each respond according to their personality. Cloud could be non-chalant, just sorta leaning out of the way. Tifa could somersault out of the way. Aeris could use her pole to quickly vault away. Cid could cuss up a storm, and and slide away. Things like that. What if the game allowed for link-attack combos similar to Front Mission? You could set up chains that can only be used if a meter was filled, and it used up 2 or 3 turns at once, making everyone's ATB meter empty out, but you could potentially chain the attacks together for more damage, or temporary status effects on the enemy like stumbling them, stunning them, or taking out their ability to move, or use their arms?
Just saying, "fuck it. We'll just have them AI-controlled until the player switches between them" is fucking lazy.
>>319249052
>So why doesn't SquareEnix do that?
Because lots of people want exactly what Squeenix is offering, and Squeenix doesn't have to cater to hardcore purists who just want to play the exact game they played 20 years ago, but a little prettier.
>>319248878
Muh SJW boogeyman
>>319249179
Holy shit, you think I'm going to read all that?
>>319249316
Are you autistic?
>no really long Supernova animation
maybe this time they'll make Supernovenot a gravity-based attack, so that it can actually kill you on its own
>>319249316
You can't read one shitty paragraph?
>>319249537
Are you? What makes you think we want to read your idea guy pitch for the remake?
>>319249537
>not wanting to read an essay from some dude makes me autistic
I could ask if you are autistic for writting all that shit.
>>319249537
You should trademark that response, it's pretty clever!
>>319249704
Oh, right. I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to debate here. My bad.
Here, let's meme instead;
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RARE PEPE RARE PEPE JEW JEW JEW NIGGGGGGGGGGGERRRRR
>>319249884
You're not debating. You're literally just crying that they didn't make YOUR dream game.
>>319249970
>>319249884
Your overly specific dream game, might I add.
>>319249884
Holy shit, this nigger is so mad he broke.
>>319249970
>>319250094
Yeah, whatever. I expected you to be intelligent and want an example of what could be done with turn-based.
I'm sorry you're a fucking moron.
>>319250413
Fast paced turn based is a retarded idea.
>>319250413
And it doesn't fucking matter anyway, because the remake is going to be split into two parts to be released separately.
>>319242405
Enjoy your fucking casual AAA cancer pandering trash cash-in.
You deserve it.
The people who are hardcore fans of FFVII need to realize that they are a minority. Square's not going to make any profit catering specifically to them. And I really doubt that there are many of them who desperately want the exact same gameplay style that they've been using for nearly twenty years now. Remakes change some things, that's the nature of the beast,and as much fin as the ATB system is I would rather not have to use it this time. And in a way it is still there, it empties instead of fills but it's still the same idea. And you can directly control and run around as other party members as well, which is cool. Plus we still have summons and magic and items and defend and run and other choices on the menu.
>>319250612
Of course it is. That's why you never turned the ATB speed up to max and turned off menu wait, you casual little shit.
I'm done with you. Go back to FFXII you trash.
I hope they don't take out the goofy shit like the boss battle with the dancing fat guy that ended with him getting hit by a truck.
Oh who am I kidding, they will.
>>319250837
It is a retarded idea. Navigating Menus with a time limit is fucking retarded, I don't care how hardcore it made you feel.
>>319242558
How would you be able to fight large enemies like the weapons and safer sephiroth while you're twirling around mashing x to unleash combo E over and over again? What would you even walk on for the final boss?
>>319251002
>>319242558
>Shit I made up
>Reminder to clench your anus in reactionary terror
>>319250812
Rather I think the people who want FF7 to be an action game with realistic visuals and a serious updated story are the minority. There's a reason why Final Fantasy was a household name and a system seller title back in the SNES and PSX days and has fallen by the wayside today.
The games were easy for anyone to pick up and play. You only really needed to understand a single directional input an ok button and a cancel button with occasional use of a couple of other inputs. Now if you make that a real time action title you have to know how to control a camera, you have to memorize combo sequences, you have to know how to perform dodges, weapon changes, and perform them all rapidly. Suddenly a game that could even be played by people with disabilities becomes a game that is only accessible to seasoned gamers.
>>319242558
I dont see how or why any of that wouldnt be possible.
If you mean the webm then I'm glad it wont be possible because it looks stupid.
>>319250812
>fin
No Tinker and Linker, laundry and cleaning are still not fucking fin at all.
>>319251796
Square's trying to cater to a newer crowd, and I'm guessing that they're gonna reuse the engine from 15 for this game.
>Young Tifa's exposed feet in HD
Worth it.
>>319251796
So you're saying only hardcore gamers are capable of moving a camera around?
>>319252719
JRPGs were always targeted at a new crowd, in the past they were the entry point for people to get into games that were bigger and more story driven. Now they tend to be much harder to get into as they cater to an ever smaller group of hardcore fans who demand different and more involved experiences.
The only real points of light are Dragon Quest and the Tales games and even those properties are being mismanaged lately.
>>319252760
source for the love of god
>>319253592
I'd tell ya if I knewNot sure if boy or girl
Is ff7 any good?
>>319254172does it matter
>>319254172
Oh my god somebody pls help me.
I need this in my lifeI don't care if its a boy a or girl
I don't think this remake will be much of a success, honestly.
They alienating the actual fans hard with their changes.
So their target audience is the new generation of gaymers. But I don't quite see those gaymers being interested in purchasing a new episode every few years. They'll probably buy the first one en masse, because they finally really can play the game they have been pretending to have played all those years. But when the second episode hits most are probably not gonna be interested anymore. I predict sinking sales with every new episode.
A better move would have been to keep silent about it, make it in the secrets, than 1-2 years before finishing it up they should have made it public.
>>319254479
Yes, boys have icky sticky cum and dicky
>No Cloud x Barret date
>implying that the interracial gay romance isn't going to be canon
>>319256143then you're in luck
>>319256110
>They alienating the actual fans hard with their changes
If the "actual fans" are that quick to abandon something and throw a fit simply because of a slight change to the battle system, then they're extremely fickle and entitled people who would have abandoned it anyway because of some other retarded reason. The Steam HD version exists if all you want is muh graphics.
>>319256110
you underestimate the power of "the best rpg ever" meme among normies.
>>319257074
>slight
>>319257074
>entitled
>>319257418
ATB is still there, a little modified. You can directly control your party members. The biggest change is now you can run around and avoid enemy attacks. And honestly, is taking turns with the enemy to do things really that big of a damn deal? After twenty years I'm glad for a change.
>>319257636
they changed the style of gameplay completely bro
I'm not the guy who is condeming it for this reason but to say its a "slight" difference is retarded
on top of that you dont even know how the ATB system works you are just assuming its the same as before
>>319249884
fuck off mong
>>319242558
literal censorship
>>319257762
You're right, it is assuming, but it's also not something to be as angry as many /v/irgins have been, especially with their raging and crying about how much they hate XII and XIII and XV because they weren't turn-based where the characters stood on one side of the screen and bobbed up and down until you told them to do something.
>>319258645
people hate 12 and 13 for a number of reasons
13 was complete crap and it had nothing to do with it "just being turn based"
i know this is hard to understand but people actually liked turn based combat so when they remove it from a game they enjoyed people will be a little pissed about it
>>319258748
We have several different versions of FFVII that have the turn-based ATB system.Square is well within their rights to do something different for the remake, and it's nice that they are because twenty years of ATB got boring ten years ago, and this is coming from a FFVII fanatic.
>>319254172It's a girl. try searching for 8ree
>>319246715
You don't think there's any legitimacy to the idea that a turn-based game should remain turn-based?
>>319242558
>Red XIII's father
>not grandfather
Seriously, go back and play the game instead of posting someone elses pasta.
Anyone got the Tifa size chart that proves she hasn't been reduced over time?
