>You've got $600 for a gaming PC.
>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
What would you buy /v/?
>>319237991
how the fuck would I know?
Obviously the best deal I could find after couple hours of intense research.
Plus how the hell would I even get "forced" to buy a fucking pre-build? Would a custom build assembled by a store be OK?
Why are you even thinking this kind of bullshit?? What, you're tech-illiterate and want suggestions?
Here's my suggestion: i5 + 8GB DDR3 + GTX 950 + 450W 80+ Bronze PSU + W7 Ultimate x64
Did you even think before you made this thread?
>>319237991
Alienware, just buy the most expensive one on their website and you'll be fine. I'd recommend getting a laptop too if you can since it doesn't matter if you get a laptop/desktop from them, same performance for you price, but in addition to mobility.
>>319239078
>suggesting a nvidia gpu below the 970
>>319237991
I only buy pre-built anyway.
I'd just save more money. I never spend less than 2 grand on my pcs.
>>319239860
>suggesting an nvidia gpu before the 1000 series
>suggesting buying a PC before pascal
>>319237991
>op is a 12 year old asking parents for gamin compooter
>600 bucks prebuilt
>decent
You will have to buy a computer and put a card in it for that money. You will make a huge sacrifice just for someone else building it.
decided to check out pre-builts gaming pcs on newegg because of this thread and i find it funny how all the listed pcs don't have the gpu in the title
they list the ram, hard drive, and cpu, along with a bunch of other meaningless letters and numbers but leave out the most important part of the pc. probably to confuse people like op
>>319239860
750ti 2GB can run motherfucking GTA5 at 35fps average on 1080p + Very High pre-sets. Witcher 3 on Medium at ~30. GTX950 is around 30% stronger than that, so yeah, it will fit a rookie PC gamer's needs quite nicely.
And the best thing with both cards? They are very low-power, and take their energy out of the PCI-E port alone.
>>319240339
amd 270/370 is better for the same price
>>319240327
that's how they roll.
I've seen Amazon have some "gayming PCs" with rad made up names, that pack tons of RAM and huge HDDs, but have mediocre at best CPUs, and total joke GPUs (like GT 730).
>>319240510
>AMD shit
enjoy not playing anything + burning your house
>>319240670
This, you're a fool if you buy an AMD product in 2015. That's some dirty third world shit at this point.
>>319240670
>resorts to memes that have no basis in reality
nvidia fanboys, everyone
>>319240339
>buying a card that already can't handle games like witcher
Just spend the extra 100 bucks or whatever to get a decent card. If you can max out most games now, you can compromise later down the road. If you have to compromise now, you'll barely be able to run new games in 3 years.
Now if OP plans on doing nothing but league, then don't worry about a card at all. Just buy a cheap laptop and mouse.
>What would you buy /v/?
Ever heard of saving /v/?
>>319240670
anything? I can play games almost nonstop and it didn't burn anything up lol
>>319240784
>>319240670
pretty much seconding these two. Also:
>no Shadowplay
>no G-Sync
>no instantly working latest releases
>no downsampling options provided by control panel
>no FXAA provided by control panel
>no CUDA
>>319240867
You realize you have resorted to a mee mee that has nothign to do with AMD because what he said IS based on reality and you have no comeback.....I mean you know that right....your post was sarcasm....right? Please say it was.
Reminder that toaster owners are not master race :^)
>>319241202
2 2 gb cards is pretty much a toaster anon.
you've got another year or two tops.
>>319241358
980 TIs are 6 gigs friendo. They always show in speccy as 2gb
>>319237991
I'd man up and build a PC, because you're going to get a piece of shit that you'll regret ever buying. 600$ will get you shit old parts stuffed in a maybe decent looking case. Stores will say that this can "run" games like Witcher 3 and Fo4, but what they don't tell you is that's on the lowest settings and capped to 24 FPS.
Stop being a pussy and build one. It's not hard, and if you look around enough you can get good deals on windows 7 copies so you can afford a better card. There are a bajillion videos on youtube that hold your hand through the process.
If you aren't a retard and you can put screws in a board then you can do it.
>>319241873
Why have 2? I heard that having two gpu's only adds like 10-20% of the second card.
>>319241096
nvidia cards only run like 5-10 degrees cooler than aftermarket amd cards
I honestly don't even know how to respond to the "not being able to play anything" bit because i have no idea what he's even talking about.
I'm not even an amd fanboy i just don't get how you guys shit-talk amd so much to the point where you make up lies about them
>>319242106
No its much more than that. You need it for 60fps in 4k in most games
>>319242128
I'm always seeing people with AMD cards in forums complaining that they wont' work with certain games. I guess that's my imagination.
Go on Amazon:
>50$ k380 case
>50$ intel socket mobo
>200-250$ Xeon CPU(don't fall for the i7/i5 meme)
>60$ 4GBx2 RAM
>150$ gtx 950
>50$ cheap WD HDD
>15$ cheap DVD burner/player
>25$ chinese cheap PSU
Yes, I'm a magician. Also remember: PC has free games.
>>319241954
This. I considered buying a PC from origin and when I looked at what the markup could be I decided to put one together on part picker. Got my parts from new egg the same week. I'm shit as a handyman but all you need is a Phillips head and patience. Only real frustrating bits were wiring and the liquid cpu cooler install
>>319241202
>only 233 GB SSD
>dumps a couple thousand into other specs
start-up speed and good cards are shitall if you can't download the game to play it, anon
>>319237991
But I wouldn't be forced to buy prebuilt because unlike you I'm not a massive fucking retard
>>319242395
>I guess that's my imagination.
correct
>>319241954
Pretty much this.
Save the cash and wait a few weeks/month. If you can't get enough money over the course a few months then you got other problems.
>>319240121
>buying pre-built
>saving money
people build to get the best value
also spending more than 1k on a computer
why? Wait you're parents bought it for you, when you understand in 5-6 years when you grow up that you're an absolute cunt.
>>319242448
>cheap PSU
that's a great way to waste your money on all of the other parts, anon
Cheap PSUs tend to take everything out with them in a power surge, or when they fail
They also tend to fail more
If there's anything you don't go cheap on it's probably the PSU
Does anyone own Corsair CX PSUs?
I got one recently and it was releasing a really weird smell. Not burning, but weird smell
It has mostly gone away now (put it in yesterday), but Im still worried.
>>319242931
>I'm not wealthy so it's impossible that anyone else might be
>>319237991
Here's a question since why the fuck not.
Motherboard is lighting up when power is connected, yet will not turn on when the power button is pressed. Assuming the power sw and other cables are properly connected, what is the issue here?
>>319242448
>cheap Chinese PSU
skimping on the power supply is one of the worst things you can do when building
>>319239078
>>319240148
>>319240984
>>319241954
>>319242448
>>319242651
I hope you guys realize youre all literal autists who can't separate themselves from their own crippling analyticity to answer a hypothetical question?
>would you rather have a million dollars or be able to run at the speed of sound?
>WHAT A STUPID QUESTION, FIRST OF ALL HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO GIVE SOMEONE THE ABILITY TO RUN AT THE SPEED OF SOUND? AND SECOND, WHO WOULD WAGER A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO....
Seriously, just fuck people like you.
>>319241954
Source I used to build my computer
http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-low-cost-budget-gaming-pc-international-shipping-september-2015/
if you literally have to have your hand held throughout the entire process
Starting from part 2 because P1 is choosing parts, which I already took care of with the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
P3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok
Now you literally have no excuse because I pretty much did everything for you except put the damn thing together
which mind you, is also explained above
750ti is enough until this gen ends. Games won't be pushing it that much harder since they need to run on console GPUs which are about the same as a 550ti.
>>319243247
bad mobo chip, BIOS is bad, short on the board et cetera. RMA that shit.
>>319243247
Does anything at all happen, or just no response, noise, etc whatsoever when you press the power button?
>>319243512
Just because you lack the mental capacity to handle building your own computer from a set of parts doesn't mean you get to drag everybody else down to your level.
Quit being retarded for once in your life.
>>319243334
>power on
>fry your components because the chinks cheaped out on a 10 cent part.
>>319243865
You literally missed the entire point of what I wrote. You receive an F for reading comprehension.
And I am typing on my custom built PC right now
>>319243223
no it's the fact that you're having them waste a shit ton more buy having them buy the shiniest most expensive thing. Without spending even 30 minutes looking around for something equal for alot cheaper.
Oh kid, when you move out you will realize how wasteful that is.
Also I can tell your not any older than 14 with the Riff-Raff pics.
Keep crying to mum every year for the newest computer because it's slowed down from all the spyware you downloaded
>>319242931
Funny, I worked a whole 1/4th of a month for my rig.
Why not spend money on something you use literally more than your bed.
>>319237991
Fuck pre-builds. Fuck high end. Think before buying into marketing bullshit.
>>319243512
Your analogy is shit.
>Would I rather buy bottled water to drink or pour myself a glass at home?
>bottled water is easier, you just uncap and drink
>but bottled water costs a fuckton more than it's worth because whoever sold it to you is making a profit
>pouring a glass of water is a little hard, but even downies can do it
>you'll have to go find a glass
>put it under the faucet
>turn the faucet on, wait, then turn it off
>then drink
>more work involved, but you save money because you didn't have somebody bottle it up and slap a label on it
>>319243002
>>319243334
Stop this meme already. Also stop punching and throwing your hardware.
You are like those idiots that blame a product just because it can't take all of their histeric hits.
You throw and punch your microphone/headset all the time and complain that it doesn't last.
Pathetic.
>>319243796
Yeah that's what we may end up doing. Will probably speed the process up exponentially. just have to store the PSU somewhere safe.
>>319243806
Absolutely nothing, we flip on the power supply, all the LED's light up but outside of that nothing else occurs once we try to power it up.
>>319243512
>>319244032
>BOO HOO HOO ANON IS BEING A BIG MEANY, MOMMY PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP
i got an iBuyPower computer for free.
I'd say it's pretty nice.
>>319243512
>>319243865
>>319244163
>>319244280
Relevant video to help you understand how pretentious you sound
https://youtu.be/zrHkb8U8ID8?t=188
>>319237991
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zZ72Jx
>>319237991
Macbook Pro
wait can I even buy it with $600?
>>319244183
what the hell mate how does spending 20 more on PSU to ensure you're not fucking yourself over. Translate to someone ragging and throwing a fuck knows all fit over their equipment.
Not everyone has a temper, projecting are we?
>>319241095
>no instantly working latest releases
LOL, yeah dem Game Ready™ drivers always work flawlessly and totally don't cause any problems, right?
>>319244183
>implying I punch my computer, which is why I need a high-end PSU so it can take it
>>319241202
>980 ti
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who bought one of these, let alone two.
>>319244051
Why you so salty mr. poorfag? I can switch to other wealthy individuals if you'd like.
>>319244793
pfftt lol ?
>>319244183
It's not a meme. I've had discount PSUs fry my GPU/MOBO/HDD on more than one occasion. thank god for onboard surge protection and RMAs
>>319245034
Enjoy 780 ti style gimping a year from now while the GTX 1060 (or whatever the Pascal equivalent of the 960 will be called) runs circles around it in newer titles.
>>319244368
Alright let me rephrase this so I abide by your autistic rules of how you're supposed to answer questions and what words I'm allowed to use
>You've got $600 for a gaming PC.
>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
None, because I know all pre-builts are shit. I'd tell whoever is giving me $600 to fuck off and use it on something that isn't piss in a bucket.
>>319244521
>>319244663
Punchers, ladies and gentlemen.
Here's your new gaming station.
>>319244809
what the fuck are you even trying to say. I' am trying to help you, when mum and dad kick you out for being 20 and jobless because they held you hand your whole life. I want you to realize what they did for you mate.
inb4 oldfag go away I had friends who acted like this now there broke and on the road because they were so disconnected from reality there whole life.
if you want a gaming PC that will last about 6-7 years or more than you should get the top of the line gpu and cpu. that will cost you around 1000 -1500 bucks when you add in all the rest of the components and depending where you shop.
>You've got $600 for a gaming PC.
>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
What would you buy /v/?
nothing. just get a ps4/xbone/wii U and some games
>>319241202
that memory frequency is a fucking joke, broham.
i7? do you actually know what hyperthreading is for or are you just throwing money at intel to grow your e-pen0r
>>319245319
You still dont get it
Youre not answering the question if you change the parameters of the question.
There are two types of questions: questions that ask for the best possible solution available (what youre trying to do) and questions that ask for the best possible situation within a set of parameters. The point of this is to engage in a discussion that involves research you might have not considered before.
OBVIOUSLY BUILDING YOUR OWN PC IS CHEAPER THAN GETTING A PRE BUILT. Literally everyone knows this. But by ignoring this stipulation you're stripping the conversation of its value entirely
I dont know how many other ways I can phrase this anon
>>319237991
Whatever has the highest resell value, maybe I can make 400 bucks.
Anyone who has a < $600 prebuilt doesn't play PC games.
>>319243512
>>319244032
>>319244368
>Getting this mad because some people on /v/ decided not to play your shitty scenario game
OP you need to hurry up and finish middle school before you start posting here.
>>319246012
Why even post if you didnt want to engage in the discussion then?
>>319245319
>given a scenario where you HAVE to make a choice
>LMAO WTF I WOULD JUST IGNORE THE SCENARIO!
kill yourself.
>>319245795
there are no gaming PCs for 600 bucks. you'll get something that runs everything on very low or medium.
>>319246358
There you go. Thats a perfectly reasonable answer to the question.
>>319246552
well I actually did look around some sites. the best I could find was an alienware or steam machine with a generic "nvidia gtx graphics card"
so its just an integrated card.
at that point it may not be worth even getting since you'll basically have a slightly better console. maybe a slightly better resolution and textures and maybe framerate, but for PC gaming it's ironically overpriced.
I'm sure building one with old parts would come out cheaper and you might even get better performance.
>>319237991
>im too retarded to stick a dozen things into a case
throw away your money
>>319247098
That's been my experience as well when looking at prebuild "gaming" computers. I don't understand why a company hasnt popped up that offers a decent prebuilt gaming PC that just slaps $100 on the top for branding/manufacturing etc. Obviously they get the parts for cheaper than you would if you were buying just one of each, so they should be saving enough money to only add a modest premium to the cost of the machine.
>>319240148
This.
OP is a teenager who wants to be 'le mustard race' but doesn't feel mechanically competent enough to purchase components and slot them into a rig. He's either cobbled together birthday/christmas money over the years or this is going to be his christmas present this year. He doesn't want to just come out and say these things for obvious reasons.
How's highschool OP?
I would at least get a decently speced prebuilt with good cpu/ram quanity and ignore gpu honestly.
Then get a gpu later for it, like a 950/750ti.
Anything with a somewhat decent gpu will near 800-900 range in general for prebuilts, but you could find a computer with an i7, 8-16 gigs of ram, and at least a terabyte hd for around 600. I would make sure it had a card already (but your pretty much guaranteed at least one 16x slot usually) but it would be a POS.
You won't get it all at that level, best to get a good base unit at least and build up to "not so shitty" then get shit all the way and compromise on everything.
This way you could just buy a 100-150 dollar card every few years and stay in it somewhat, getting a dual core or amd would be a waste.
http://www.costco.com/Lenovo-H50-Desktop-%7c-Intel-Core-i7-%7c-2GB-Graphics.product.100230172.html
Something like that would be a good base.
>>319247920
I just got a 950 for around half the price of a 970. I would recommend it if one's going for budget.
>>319246135
>>319245334
>>319245795
Alright, fine, whatever. You wanna get all autistic over rules and shit, I have stopped caring at this point.
But you realize that there is literally NO good answer to this question?
Because any pre-built under 600$ is shit. Don't even kid yourself.
>>319247920
I know jack shit about gpus, how well would that hold up for current games, until I get a better card?
>>319247920
>i7
meme cpu. there is virtually no performance benefit in games for an i7.
>>319248834
>MEMEMEMEME
Do you faggots ever stop?
I7 will pay off as soon as games start using it fully. Plus, for things other than gaming it works very well. Remember, a pc does more than games.
>>319248812
At the moment my 950 can pretty much handle witcher 3 on ultra, but it's not always 60 fps.
>>319248690
Yeah, it really seems to be worth it over the 750.
You'd (OP) still have to make sure the psu could handle even that though, and most oem psu's should at least tell you the watts, anything over 300 should be enough.
>>319249027
isn't the only difference hyperthreading? I looked this up a while back and can't remember.
>>319249027
>>You've got $600 for a gaming PC.
>>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
>>What would you buy /v/?
>You've got $600 for a gaming PC.
>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
What would you buy /v/
Games will NEVER start supporting cpus well because devs are lazy fucking faggots and even op says its GAMING PC.
>>319249164
I meant the one in the build, sorry
A PS4 and Wii U
>>319248812
Gpu in that system is crap (730)
But a 950 would last a couple years maybe.
>>319249027
Never said it did, I own a i5 myself, and I would never buy a prebuilt, but that was an example of a route I would go if I had to at that price.
>>319249929
Meant to link>>319248834
>>319249454
It was my point that you would get crap in one area, and the best one to take it in is the gpu frankly.
You wouldn't believe the markup on parts, especially for "gamer" branded crap.
I mean you could get a prebuilt on newegg with a 950/750 from ibuypower, or abs like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102038
And it wouldn't be bad, but I would rather get an intel cpu for gaming, but in reality at that level the cpu won't really bottleneck anything.
It's all up to you, thats really the only other system I could vaguely recommend.
>>319240339
>GTX950 is around 30% stronger than the 750ti
Just read that it's 50%; but unless it's a hugely reduced price, the 960 is the best next step (bar the possible memory shortage like the 970).
>the 950 is much stronger than the 460
Interesting.
>>319250614
Yeah, i've never owned an amd processor, but assuming the processor's gud that build looks like a decent starting point for me.
What was that big fiasco about the gtx 960 about? Something about intentionally reduced video ram or something?
>>319251293
I mean it's not great, but a ton of people build with it because its so cheap and offers 6 cores.
It would provide a semi decent 1080 experience, but there would be slowdowns in newer games.
You would still need a better gpu in a year or two though, so either way you would need to upgrade eventually.
And graphics cards are literally the easiest thing to change, almost 100% retard proof as long as you follow simple directions.
>>319242931
>>319244051
>>319245440
You're trying too hard to paint this guy as underage. With your bad grammar, bad spelling, choice of '14' as the go-to 'underage' age, I think it's fair to assume you're about 16-18 years old and just built your first computer.
>>319251293
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227507
This actually looks better and would last substantially longer.
Both have a shit psu by the looks of it though, one thing most prebuilts really skimp on.
>>319252086
that was the 970. They said it's got 4 gigs but its 3.5.
>>319242615
what about external 5 TB HDDs
>>319244183
the PSU is like the heart beat of your rig it is the #1 thing not to jew out on
>>319252536
Anyone know if the cpu could be swapped for an intel i5 later on?
![ps4-system-imageblock-us-13jun14[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kE83IYN.png "ps4-system-imageblock-us-13jun14[1].png")
>>319237991
>>But you're forced to buy a pre-build.
>What would you buy /v/?
PlayStation 4
Next question?
![3-30-09z800[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9i7Znfv.jpg "3-30-09z800[1].jpg")
If I HAD to buy a pre-built gaming PC I would look for a used workstation on ebay with a decent GPU in it.
Here is one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z800-Workstation-Xeon-Six-Core-X5675-3-06GHz-12GB-500-HD-QUADRO-4000-/191753024640?hash=item2ca55ef480:g:tgsAAOSwZVhWS-o~
HP z800 workstation. These are really solid and amazing machines. I'm typing this from one right now.
My z800 had a Quadro 4000 in it when I got it and it will do the job for playing modern games. It got me through Dark Souls and Ground Zeroes before I upgraded to a GTX 960.
When you're buying a prebuilt you should look for reliability and upgrade-ability first. So many "gaming" desktops are pieces of trash made from the cheapest of the cheap. You're better off buying on the used market.
