What exactly is wrong with this game?
>>318794909
The on foot sections pretty much, unclear objectives in maps, clusterfuck combat and zero of the charm from the N64 game
terrible dialogue
that's about it, it's a good game
Everything except the multiplayer. Ship ciombat was slow boring molasses, foot combat was even worse. Story was trying to take itself seriously and ended up completely fucking retarded because of it, too.
If this game had Kid icarus like on foot sections this game would be game of the year.
>>318795145
Was playing it earlier today and had difficulty finding fault aside from the length (game is really, really short).
Remember the controls being irritating specifically sniping in mission 8 and the graphics being difficult to distinguish in mission 3 but both these were not issues playing on dolphin and with a different pad.
What I remembered being frustrating wasn't frustrating. Not super smooth but compared to some old playstation games it handles well.
Repetitive missions, mostly.
Krystal
slower gameplay after 64
shitty storylog
wolf pre-brawl redesign
Panther is boring
dem shitty ground section
>>318794909
it's a shitty Halo 2 clone
>>318794909
My only issue with it was that it was too short.
I wanted to fly in a badass arwing. The AMAZING opening level followed by the putrid fucking garbage on Katina was honestly an even bigger cockslap than what SF:Adventure turned out to be.
>>318794909
Single player was a bit too short but at least it has great replayability value.
Multiplayer is fun.
Story is pretty weak; killing Andrew and Pigma did not sit well with me.
Character dialogue left some room to be desired.
I always thought it was pretty fun though.
Wish more of the game had been on rails Airwing stages, those were good.
>>318796521
My main gripe about Katina was that Bill wasn't there, I was expecting him to be there.
Best music in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6543T0HI50
>>318797184
In my first playthrough I thought that was who sent the distress signal.
>>318796521
>>318796707
Mission 2 drags, part of the problem is the second hunt for those tiny bug things that are inside tight, enclosed spaces.
The first and last on rails missions are ok, the middle one (with Pigma as a boss) isn't as good.
![200_s[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/1GPORkl.gif "200_s[1].gif")
>mfw Arwing jousting
>>318794909
Too slow
Too few missions, not enough objectives in the all-range one (eliminate all targets or eliminate all targets while keeping air superiority, or fight a boss)
On foot gameplay could be way better
why the fuck isn't Zoness a level the sea base map is rad
It should have stayed a multiplayer game, it's obvious the single player was a last minute addition
>>318794909
>What exactly is wrong with this game?
Sexism, chauvinism, and patriarchal appropriation of female empowerment. Not sure about the gameplay mechanics or anything like that though since I refuse to play or support such an archaic travesty.
The characters weren't sexual enough, needed more homoerotic undertones with Krystal supporting such endeavors
>>318798013
Nah there's plenty of tension between Wolf and Fox. Like most of the plot of the game is painting Wolf as a tsundere anti-hero
>>318797283
Yeah it seemed perfect for him to make his appearance
>Possible ally in Katina
>It will be Bill, the childhood friend archtype (which is also why I like Tifa and Saria so much)
>It turns out to be fucking Pigma
>>318794909
The flying/vehicle sections were good, but could be better.
The ground/on foot sections were pretty wonky.
Overall, my only issue was the lack of polish on some parts of the game.
>>318795193
Whats wrong with the dialogue?
>>318798541
>Nah there's plenty of tension between Wolf and fox
>like most of the plot of the game is painting Wolf as a tsundere anti-hero
Nah, thats just fans taking shit out of context and/or wishful thinking.
>but wolf helped fox fight the aparoids
There is a big difference between siding with a power-hungry scientist who wants to take over the government and siding with a robot bug abomination who wants to rape-murder-assimilate all life in the galaxy.
I agree that the cutscene after the boss fight vs. corrupted gen. pepper was weird, but saying that the whole game is filled to the brim with homossexual tension is a fuckhuge stretch.
>>318794909
The only correct answer to this is the foot missions
Especially the final base one
Most other complaints aside from "linear levels" are pretty much nostalgia fags unable to accept reality
I enjoyed it but it was no StarFox64.
The ship sections felt a lot slower than ever before, the on foot sections were "ok",it was awfully short. Perhaps it did take itself a bit seriously too.
Multiplayer was fun mind you.
Hoping the next one isn't shit. Mind you I don't think a WiiU anyways so who knows when I'll get playing it anyways.
Assault had the best Fox VA, I wish they kept him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TOjBNWXYKc
>>318796521
this looks better than star fox zero
>>318800918
Are you serious? I haven't paid attention to Zero
>>318800789
Man the continuity in star fox is a mess. Nintendo wanted to make it a franchise but had no idea where to go with it
I honestly never really liked Star Fox 64. I played the SNES one to death and thought 64 was too short and boring. Also thought 64's landmaster stages were kind of bad.
I liked Assault a lot though, even if some of the foot missions took way too long.
>>318794909
The teeth look funny on most of the characters, and its too short. If Star Fox Zero is a largely improved version of Assault with 70% ship combat 30% or less on foot/land combat/exploration then it will be the greatest Star Fox game ever.
But were talking about modern Nintendo so its gonna be dumbed down family amiibo bullshit. Starfox 64 will always be the best.
short game that controlled very slowly for some reason.
REALLY good music and fun multiplayer
the only ground mission I liked was sauria because I got to spam the machine gun. The campaign should have had more than 10 missions. fucking 10? something's up with that.
>>318801019
At first I was disappointed that Star Fox Zero was just another retelling of the first game, but it's probably for the best.
>>318801019
I honestly think Assault was a good idea and they should have gone on and improved it rather than spin the franchises wheels with Command.
No online multiplayer.
I can't play with my friends because they come and go, and my brother isn't really worth playing with, not that he ever does.
Also, splitscreen makes sniping impossible.
>>318800987
yes, the art design in Zero is bland is fuck.
>>318803204
The colors look more saturated than the E3 trailer. Neither Star Fox 64 or Assault are visually impressive games... the geometry on the front of the Landmaster looks like something from N64. Most of the game is ugly except this particular mission. Also jarring that the on rails parts of the game are 60fps while the on foot parts are 30.
>>318797263
The main menu theme is pure gold for some reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqv4YB14uH4
And Wolf's theme is epitomizes what it means to be a rival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-ANm0kaV0
>>318800789
>Assault had the best Fox VA, I wish they kept him.
Didn't they use him for SSBB? He was on point for that character. Heck, all the space animals sounded good in SSBB, in fact, I picked up Wolf just because of his taunt "What's the matter? SCARED?".
>>318803181
>No online multiplayer.
You're asking a lot for the time period when Assault came out. But an Assault 2 with 32-64 player online with Arwing, Tank, and On foot action all on the same map would be DIVINE.
>>318805156
>You're asking a lot for the time period when Assault came out. But an Assault 2 with 32-64 player online with Arwing, Tank, and On foot action all on the same map would be DIVINE.
This was my Halo before I had Halo, but Halo was already out and I just lacked the system for it.
I thought Krystal was fine in this. I assume all the hate she got started in Command
>>318806928
You fucking bet. One word for you:
Kursed.
>>318806928
I didn't like her for replacing Peppy in the team,even though he retired in the manga anyway,
Before I git gud at Lylat Wars he was the only one who was with me throughout the game, and the only one of the team still there when I inevitably died on Titania
>>318807287
I played Command for the first time last week, I lost the Star Wolf fight because of all the mines
>>318807843
>even though he retired in the manga anyway
Do you mean the manga bridging the gap between 64 and Adventures or did they do one between Adventures and Assault I don't know of?
>>318808036
I think between 64 and Adventures, but I never actually bothered with it. I just know it happened somewhere there and I don't like that so much either
>>318807931
Command had a lot of neat ideas and a lot of poor ones, it will take 2-3 P.T.s before you start to git gud at the game, but I still like using other ships, and each character having their own theme
>>318806928
>I assume all the hate she got started in Command
That and the confusing backstory she had. After adventures she dropped the whole tribal thing, and stopped giving a shit about her old planet.It would have been pretty cool if it was revealed that the aparoid homeworld was actually her home planet.
>>318808310
I think the branching paths were a good idea and so were the character specific ships, but the issue I had with it was the fact that the actual combat was bad and the timed missions were annoying. If the game played like 64 I would have enjoyed it a lot more.
>>318809061
I didn't mind the combat so much, outside of fuel cells and the timer being fucking retarded, along with destroying motherships by barrel-rolling into them
>>318808310
Command is a really, really terrible game. A few novel ideas that are crappily executed, extreme repetition / lack of variety and deviant art tier fanfiction writing that puts sonic to shame
I wish Nintendo included an improved version of assaults multiplayer it would be fucking fun.
>>318807287
>Kursed
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>318810759
what exactly is this?
>>318809924
Yeah, but having every character have their own ship and music, helped it last longer, and the little I played of online (because DS-es had the shittest internet capabilities) was pretty good, and seeing how the different story arcs intersect with each other was neat, too bad the stories themselves sucked
>>318811025
another one of undyingnephalim's backwashed shit
>>318811410
I don't know who that is, I'm assuming it's fanfic? Like why the hell would you choose to make fucking Kursed the ending you go off of lmao
Its too short. That's it. Its fucking great and is the best Star Fox has ever been.
Assault>2>Adventures>64>Command
Never played the first
>>318795145
>not enjoying tactically throwing grenades into an open door and then walking backwards and letting it blow up killing enemies while you wait outside
>>318795719
>Krystal
>having any affect on the game whatsoever
>Panther
>boring
>Wolf's design
>not great
>not liking the cheesy scifi movie like story
>>318803204
LIterally 64 2.0
>>318811025
>>318811862
Its a Starfox fangame.
Try the demo
http://starfoxeh.weebly.com/
>>318812224
>>318812424
get off of 4chan, UN
>>318803204
>all those jaggies
Jesus, Nintendo.
>>318802674
Isn't Zero a reboot, so any sequel will be coming out of that story and not Command or something?
>>318812580
I'm not him. I don't have game development skills. I do know him though, as I sometimes go to Starfox Online.
>>318794909
hmmm, why am i unaware of the existence of this game
>>318811410
>>318812896
speaking of that guy and SFO
http://www.starfox-online.net/forums/topic/13079-red-alert-one-of-the-undying-nephalims-games-has-been-stolen/
>>318813442
>Steam page is down
That lasted long
>>318812224
>adventures above 64
Furfaggot detected, opinion discarded
>>318814117
I'm a Zeldafag anon
>>318814294
Zelda and Rare titles are among my favorite games and I still thought Adventures was trash, that is no excuse
>>318794909
Too short.
That's pretty much it. Everything else is great.
Sadly Starfox ZERO has a 2 hour campaign, shitty graphics that make this game look like it's successor AND it's slow as fuck.
>>318814743
>2 hour campaign
Are you serious? Where are you people getting this information? If it's a 2 hour campaign what will be the main draw? The Multiplayer?
>>318814743
>assault's ship combat
>great
Even Starfox ZERO looks faster than this game, which is fucking impressive.
>>318815535
Star Fox Assault is less than 2 hours and believe that Star Fox 64 is too even counting all possible stages seperately
>>318817113
I guess you're right. I've never really thought about how long they are so seeing the 2 hour campaign for Zero freaked me out.
>>318817310
they're meant to be arcadey games to be completed in one sitting
assault might go over two hours only if spending a large amount of time pointlessly exploring the on foot missions rather than seeking and destroying targets
Ground missions
c stick anything
lasers
