What did you think of the first three Metal Gear Solid games? Which one was your favorite? Did you like how the series went after MGS3?
Don't remember 2 so well, but 1/3 are two of my favourite games for sure.
4 was straight up garbage in every aspect, and 5 was just really boring. No idea why 5 was the way it was.
>>318762860
One of the best games ever made. Very different from each other. After MGS3 the series went to shit and I'm saying this as a MGS fan.
>>318762860
Great.
3.
Yup. Liked 4 and loved PW.
>>318763001
What did you think of Peace Walker? I've recently bought the Legacy Collection and was wondering if it was worth playing co-op with my friend who also owns it.
>>318763201
Did you initially hate MGS2 like many people, or were you okay with how it played out?
>>318763291
So PW is actually fun? I've been skeptic.
>>318763363
>PW is actually fun?
Well that depends on your definition of fun
Do you enjoy Monster Hunter games?
Loved 1
Loved 3
FUCK YOU RAIDEN
Loved 4
Peace walker was boring to play but had a good story
>>318763498
No, but that's because I don't like fighting with the controls. I'm assuming PW controls like a normal MGS game?
>>318762860
The first three are great, I think 4 is a good wrap-up, but you have to keep in mind that's 50% movie/50% videogame. PW has a fine story but the gameplay is too simple. MGSV has great gameplay but an unfocused story and a lot of useless stuff (Mother Base, FOBs, online in general).
>>318763001
>4 was straight up garbage in every aspect,
I disagree, it was a fantastic game held back by a few dumb plot points and excessive cutscenes, and the entirety of the European chapter
MGO was also good
>>318762860
My entire love for the series is caused by MGS 3.
100%
The other games are just complete ass.
>>318763363
At the beggining I hated the fact that I'm playing some faggot instead of Solid Snack, but in the end I was satisfied.
>>318763634
Not at all. Remember it was a PSP game.
The shoulder button is to shoot, there's no first person aiming, you can't crawl, etc. Overall, the controls took a long time to adjust to, but I eventually did.
>>318763867
See I would say the same but for MGS2. It's the only game where I think Kojima's off the wall nonsense actually worked, because it was so obviously not meant to be taken seriously.
>>318763634
Actually they have a very diferent feel than the first 3, the controls in PW are more like a third person shooter with stealth.
That can be sound bad but I actualli liked a lot, but still I prefer 3. Thou it must be said, the story in PW it's superb
>>318763867
What don't you like about MGS1/Twin Snakes and MGS2?
>>318763932
I was skeptic going into it but ended up liking Raiden as a character. He was just real green, was all.
>>318763953
I wonder how it controls on PS3.
>>318764034
I'll have to give it a go, then.
>>318763363
>So PW is actually fun? I've been skeptic.
I was VERY skeptic towards it myself, since I didn't even bother with PO (hell, didn't even have or like PSP originally). I actually got PSP for PW originally in 2010, but didn't bother to play it more than like 10 minutes before giving up.
But when I got the PS3's MGS HD Collection and played the HD remaster of PW? I was fucking hooked! Yeah, the beginning feels a bit tame and the slightly streamlined gameplay may feel a bit off at first, but man does it improve as you play forward. The dual-analog controls feel great on PS3 and the game runs very smoothly. Plus, it's a total blast in co-op.
I liked building my very own "Outer Heaven", hiring new folks to improve my stats, developing new gear to fool around in missions, etc. The story was quite fascinating as well, especially the way how it made both "sides" of the Cold War to be villains in their own ways.
I have clocked over 350 hours into Peace Walker on PS3 at this moment. That hooked I was to it. I even replayed it from the scratch a couple weeks before release of TPP, only doing the 5 story chapters that time though, 30 hours.
All in all, PW was the #1 reason I was so hyped for MGS5, even after GZ, but the final product didn't quite live up to Peace Walker's level.
>>318762860
>metal gear solid
Casual.
Metal gear msx2 is where it's at.
>>318763634
Peace Walker is great. Best music in the series as well.
MGS was an early 3D game and it showed in every respect. Pretty clumsy all around.
MGS2 was ambitious in terms of narrative but was held back by Kojima's terrible writing. A bunch of extra gameplay features were added and now the controls are a clusterfuck. Every part of the game is that one terrible level you don't want to go back to.
MGS3 is a video game. It plays fine. The writing is still kinda shitty but it doesn't take itself seriously so you can at least have fun with it. Too many menus though.
When you get to stealth it up in MGS4 it's fucking incredible, then you realize that half the game is cutscenes and another quarter is lame TPS or scripted segments.
I didn't play the rest.
>>318764034
There wasn't even any stealth, really. Because it used a mobile-gaming, mission-based format, there's no penalty for getting caught, because each mission is only 1-3 minutes tops.
"Oh, I ended this mission without any ammo, rations, suppressors, and my lifebar is depleted? Doesn't matter. Back to Mother Base."
Elder God Tier
MGS1
Demi- God Tier
MGS3
Great tier
MGS2
Meh tier
MGS PW, MGS4
Not even a finished game tier
MGSV
not even cannon so why bother tier
MGR, MGS:PO, MGS AC!D, MGS AC!D2
They're fantastic, 2 is a masterpiece and the best. After 3 the series stayed fine it didn't get any worse it just stayed metal gear which is a good thing, V is the best entry gameplay wise so that's nice.
>>318762860
3 was the beginning of the end. Still fantastic, but the start of the decline. Pw, 4, V, all can just be ignored in my opinion. J.R.R. Tolkien can make an entire universe without reconning, kojima made 3 games before he started fucking the story to oblivion.
>>318764127
Raiden is shit and he's personification of the player.
>>318762860
They're all pretty great for different reasons, 3 was probably my favorite.
4 was alright at best, I didn't like the chapter system and the gameplay felt to action-y. The only Metal Gear-y thing was the story, and the series doesn't have the best track record when it comes to that.
Everything after 4 was just unecessary, but I don't mind too much that it exists.
Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2 and MGS are a near-perfect trilogy.
MGS2 is a brilliant epilogue. Disliked it at first, grew on me over a few replays.
MGS3 is an okay prequel. It'd be better if Big Boss was his own character instead of being a carbon copy of Snake. Gameplay addtions are all superfluous and the lack of bonus content compared to MGS2 is disappointing. I'll let it slide because it doesn't take itself too seriously and it's chronologically far enough removed that it stands on its own.
Everything made after MGS3 is irrelevant garbage on par with the Star Wars prequels.
>>318764246
Baby's first mgs. How cute
>>318763363
Nah. Boring as shit and grindy. Also fucking stupid story.
>>318764267
>it showed in every respect.
It seems minor, but you most definitely mean "shows." Because at the time, there was nothing clumsy about the game.
If that wasn't a typo, then you're an underaged shitter.
>>318764390
This, desu senpai
MGS2 was fucking shit
>>318764127
>I wonder how it controls on PS3.
Brilliantly! You got dual analog controls for movement and camera, and a lot of the actions are done with shoulder-buttons.
I find it to have one of the best gameplays out of whole series.
>>318764267
MGS was absolutely groundbreaking when it came out, I don't know what you're talking about.
>>318764267
>early 3D game
>early
>fucking 1998
Is this a new meme? You can even say the graphics are dated but they are far from being "early"
>>318764290
Ac!d 2 was loads of fun though.
>>318764195
>That moment in Peace Walker when "Heavens Divide" is blasting in the background as you and a co-op buddy are down down swarms of armoured enemies and a helicopter starts rolling in and blowing up walls
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzgI6xJEH0
If you played this game solo then you were missing out. It might have had dumb-as-fuck AI and braindead stealth, but there was so shit to do and S-Ranks required patience and co-operation.
>>318764696
>one of the best gameplay of the entire series
HA!
>>318764352
>Tolkien can make an entire universe without retconning
He retconned sections of The Hobbit to be more consistent with LotR.
>>318762860
1>2>3
>>318764390
>Gameplay additions are superfluous
Nigger, the camouflage and stamina systems are pretty baller.
I liked 1 and I liked 3
2's ending was pretty ok but every time it tried to be fun it was forcibly taken away from you
>liquid takes over ocelot's body
>oh shit here we go
>he runs away and snake chases after him
>>318764957
Stamina is good, camouflage doesn't really add anything
>>318762860
The first one, it doesn't go too off the rails narrative wise and when it pretends to be a deep video game it's not too heavy handed. Gameplay doesn't stack up to the others, but being separated by half a decade will do that.
MGS2 is great but the ending is too much of a baudrillard ripoff for me to take seriously. 3 is fun but volgin never really did it for me.
>>318764752
I played it through all alone, and loved it.
I find it actually far easier to S-rank all alone than with a friend.
Still, that scene (and the final bosses) were damn well orchestrated scenes.
I did co-op through the PW Custom mission though. That was some epic, fun shit!
>>318764787
"ha" all you want, I'm serious. It's just so smooth, responsible and natural.
>>318762860
3>2>1
I've only played 5. AMAZING game, on my 2nd play through and I got it in September. I want to play the other games to find out what happened before MGS5 but the gameplay looks clunky and not as good as 5, are there any control mods for these games? I understand some have PC versions.
>yfw there hasn't been a good mgs game in a decade
>>318764887
Like what? I just read every book, including the silmarilion and didn't see any at all. Meanwhile PW, 4, PO, V, all find new and fresh ways to completely fuck up a story that was already told.
>>318765093
the only one that would really be clunky is MGS because it's top down. The others are perfectly fine as long as you play the HD versions.
>>318765030
PW was one of the worst of the entire series. Set up V for failure when they tried to make it pw2. If I wanted to play a grindy ass monster hunter knock off, I'd just go play a good game instead.
>>318765006
Reminder that 2's ending was originally an intentionally-vague end to the series before Konami decided to make MGS IV
>>318765164
Only one decade?
>>318764752
>you'll never experience this
Peacewalker with a bit of the GZ style combat ease would be perfect. Co-op seemed like a great feature.
>>318765229
BLOODBORNE
LITTLE BIG PLANET 3
THE FALLOUT: 4NEVEREVER
When will you Wii U yards ever learn?
>>318765304
I don't agree with you one bit, but each their own.
V would've been absolutely amazing as PW2.0, but they didn't put enough effort to actually go through with it. What we got instead was a poor, shallow imitation of SOME of the PW's elements, slapped on top of generic and empty open-world fool-around world, implemented through one of the worst UIs I've ever seen in gaming.
>>318765015
You could say the same about any of the additions in MGS2.
"Doesn't really add anything" is a meaningless phrase to throw at things you don't like, when literally it adds stuff.
"First person aiming doesn't really add anything. " Except now you can aim at body parts and they have varying effects.
"Being able to hang over ledges doesn't really add anything." Except it adds new ways of getting around enemies/rooms.
"Non-lethal weapons don't really add anything." Except now you have three options on how to incapacitate guards, and they all have different pros/cons.
"Camouflage doesn't really add anything." Except it completely changes the way enemy detection and their field of vision works, as well as your stealth strategies for navigating areas.
>>318762860
For me, 2 is my favourite followed closely by 3 and then 1.
>>318765164
actually just 5 years if you ask me.
>>318765512
what?
>>318765558
All it means is that every time you change your backdrop you go into a menu and play with the settings until the numbers are biggest. It doesn't improve stealth.
>>318765173
Don't know exactly. But I do remember reading an article about it awhile back. He re-wrote sections of the book and re-published it after LotR came out and was such a success.
>>318765030
I had honestly expected disappointment with that boss battle, but it actually felt really good.
And now I need to play MGS through again.
>>318765093
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUTmake sure to spend a bit of time just getting used to controls at first and not freaking out. Maybe play a bit of training or the game on easy so that when you fuck up you don't get shot to pieces. 2 and 3 have a lot of things you can do which people often never realise, even for multiple play throughs, because they rush it.
>>318765686
How are you defining "stealth?" Because it's starting to sound like you're suffering from a case of
"My one, narrow, restrictive definition is literally the only one and everybody else is wrong."-itis
>>318762860
I enjoyed 1 a great deal. Kinda wish it was longer though.
A lot of people seem to really like 2. I don't but not because of Raiden, the ending or anything story related. I just found the Shell, which you spend the majority of the game in, to be a really boring. Fatman excluded, I didnt like the bosses either.
Loved 3, best in the series in terms of gameplay. Didnt really care much about the Boss or most of the characters even in the end but thats a very minor complaint.
A lot of people seem to dislike. Personaly I enjoyed it a lot. The only part I didnt enjoy on some level was the motorbike section. And of course the cutscenes got pretty ridiculous at times.
Havent played 5 yet. I have money for it but I wanted to play it on PC after getting GZ on the cheap and really enjoying it but I dont want Denuvo to wreck my SSD. Did they fix that shit? Or was it just a rumour from the start, cause I've heard a lot about it but havent seen any proof one way or another.
>>318764197
I'm shit at 3rd gen and earlier.
>>318764195
This makes me excited to play it. Gotta play 4, first, though!
>>318764352
To be fair, there was a second writer until MGS4. After MGS3 the second guy left and I don't think Kojima was quite up to the task of writing for the series by himself.
>>318762860
I like all three. I even liked Twin Snakes despite how retarded it is.
My favorite was MGS2. I never disliked Raiden, even back when everyone lost their shit over him. On the other hand, I think 3 is probably the best game from an objective standpoint. 4 was a good movie. PW is a huge time sink, but I love shit like that. V was the opposite of 4 in that it was a fun game with no story.
1 is great but I haven't played it recently unlike the rest of the games in the series, which I replayed to hype up for V. I saw you can get a digital version on the PS store but how the fuck does that work with Psycho Mantis?
>>318765998
*seem to dislike 4
>>318765093
No, there's no mods.
Actually, there's barely any PC ports as well, and the only ones that are there (1 & 2) are old and shitty as hell.
Just get a PS3+ MGS Legacy Collection. That way you get to play the whole existing, canonical series that was released before V, in the most authentic form possible, many of them remastered into glorious HD as well.
And to be honest, the gameplay is fine. And it evolves / changes with each game just a little. They just didn't follow some 2010's "standardized" AssCreed / Gaylo control scheme, that the V does.
Yeah, you will have to read the manuals and practice a little, but so what?! If that sounds too much for you, just forget the series even exists.
>>318766027
As someone who's only option until recently was to play Twin Snakes instead of the original, why do people not like Twin Snakes?
>>318766218
They don't like being reminded how retarded all of MGS after 1 is.
>>318766218
Mostly the absurd cutscenes and the fact that having MGS2's aiming system breaks the game
>>318766027
>but how the fuck does that work with Psycho Mantis?
played the mgs1 hd collection version recently, you just hit the ps3 menu and change your controller ports
So is it true that you have to replay a bunch of shit on hard to get to the real final act of V?
>>318766218
MGS1 had an isometric overhead camera but in Twin Snakes there's first person. It makes Ocelot really easy and the Volgin really dumb.
It was also a complete remake by another director (who was hand picked by Kojima though) and at the time MGS had not yet gone full retard, so a lot of people hated the over-the-top cutscenes where Snake backflips off of rockets or whatever.
They also re-recorded all the voice acting. This really bothers a lot of people from what I've heard but Hayter said that they had to because the original dialogue was recorded in a barn or something and of horrible quality.
>>318766361
>absurd cutscenes
Elaborate? Whats absurd about them?
>>318766218
From the top of my head:
-You start with maximum HP and ammo cap, instead of "leveling up" after each boss fight.
-the new voice acting and soundtrack suck.
-the new localization sucks ass, and is pretty much direct Jap-to-English shit now.
-The MGS2 controls and moves, in unaltered MGS1 environments and enemy placements = the game becomes piss easy. The bossfights took the biggest hit, since you can now simply snipe them with your handgun.
-The Dogtag collecting has no purpose at all, unlike in MGS2.
-The cutscenes are way too fucking crazy, being filled with 5 meter 360 double backflips and Matrix slowmotion. Oh, and tons of added "humor", which just ruins the characters and mood.
-To be honest? The Twin Snakes also looks fugly. Everything's just gray and cyan now, ruining the cold and dark industrial mood the original has. And the 3D models look waxy.
tl;dr: it's a completely bonkers, DMC-tier demake of the original.
>>318766290
MGS1 was already "too crazy" for many people when it came out. I still got some old gaming magazines where the reviewers complain it being "too Japanese and silly".
The real problem with TS is the fact that it makes Snake move like a fucking Cyborg Ninja, and act like some 16yo action-hero fanboy faggot. It ruins the balance the whole series has, and totally butchers his character.
>>318766562
The missile backflip like I mentioned.
https://youtu.be/j9mQKZMOzLs
>>318766562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJJ2q759MFQ
>>318766562
>Elaborate? Whats absurd about them?
The nonstop Matrix slo-mo 6 meter high dual-backflip dodge jumps, riding flying rockets, and 2x 360-no-scope-killing a sniper with a rifle?
Oh, and Snake almost shoots the VIP he was supposed to rescue, because he apparently had developed anger-management issues in TS.
And Otacon was made ten times more embarrassing and pitiful character (pissing himself twice), just for the lulz.
>>318764624
Mgs2 is the only one where I literally see and learn something new each playthrough. Best mgs and one of the best games ever
>>318765006
Yeah, 2's story was kind of a wet fart
The only cool stuff always involved either Snake or Solidus and the entirety of Dead Cell was terrible
And holy shit fuck the backtracking/bomb defusing. Easily the least fun part of any MG game
>>318765549
Every metal gear before PW had been stealth based, responding extremely harshly if you were caught. Peace walker was just "baby level stealth with retarded 1980s ai bosses. The whole game should not have existed.
>>318769380
>Every metal gear before PW had been stealth based
and PW somehow magically isn't?
GJ ignoring the fact that MGS2 completely turned the series into borderline shooter, and run & gun has been quite valid option ever since.
The bosses were also far more entertaining and memorable than many previous fights in series.
>>318770176
Is POps that good?
Why was Vamp a character
Who thought that was a good idea
>>318762860
Great.
2.
I don't like how Solid was forced to age in 4.
I like PW.
I love GZ.
TPP broke my heart and I can't play MGS anymore.
>>318770176
Why do you keep posting your shitty ranking
>>318770348
No, but Gene is the best MGS villain
>>318770263
Ok now I know you're trolling. No one would ever unironically say peace walker had good boss fights. Sinking 400 rounds into a sponge can't be fun to anyone.
>>318770176
shit taste: the pic
>>318770263
And the stealth was Hasbro tier easy. You could instantly headshot tranq with how easy the aiming is in that.
3>1=2
Excellent set of games. 1 was my first and it completely changed my mind of what I thought a video game could be. I actually played 3 before 2 and still found 2 to be a masterpiece (played them both in college well after their releases). For me, 2 was what MGS1 wanted to play like, and the story was pretty good even if Raiden wasn't the best main character. 3 is just a gift from the heavens sent down by naked baby angels playing trumpets with rays of light and happiness
>>318770620
I would. I love them. Period.
>ADHD kids whining about "bulletsponges" because they couldn't stealth through tanks
>>318762860
>What did you think of the first three Metal Gear Solid games?
A trilogy of games which will pass to history (if they haven't already).
>Which one was your favorite?
2.
>Did you like how the series went after MGS3?
The newer games went downhill in comparison to the previous games; it's obvious that Kojima wanted to finish the series with 2.
They are pretty good games on their own though.
Also this anon >>318764390 really knows what's up.
>>318763201
Agree, sadly. 3 is ne of my top 5 games ever. Remember waiting so long for 4 and having the slow realization I just bout at movie instead of a game.
>>318762860
The first one is perfect.
MGS has been my favorite arise for a long time. 3 being my favorite. I like the games afterward, but they don't reach quite the same highs as 2 & 3 do.
>>318764290
>MGS4
>meh
Why do people forget all the good parts of it? I fucking loved 4
1>4>3=2=GZ>everything else
Played the games earlier this year. The first 3 are enjoyable enough.
MGS was okay. I went into it expecting a stealth game so was kind of disappointed with it but by the end I found it to be a little above average.
MGS2 had a number of gameplay improvements over MGS and was far nicer to control, but the level design was still kind of poor. The story however is one the best I've seen and make perfect use of the medium and because of this it's probably my favourite MGS overall.
MGS3 made huge improvements on the gameplay and level design, actually becoming more like a stealth game while still keeping the wacky MGS bossfights, etc. The story was good fun and fits the MGS series very well.
MGS4 was trash and I can't even bring myself to play more than an hour of PW. Didn't play 5 because of how bad the previous 2 games were.
In general the MGS games have a problem with putting too much emphasis on action in a system that is very geared towards stealthing, but I have to admit this does have the nice effect of persuading you to take stealthy routes around enemies instead of shooting the place up. This fails in areae in which you are forced to fight though. Also another issue I have with the games is that you're given so many items and abilities for tasks that can easily be solved with a tranquilliser gun. I guess I can't fault a game for having variety, but it would have been nicer to be put in situations where you have to use certain items. And while I'm complaining I might as well add that there are a few areas in the games where you have to use an awkward combination of real world logic and video game logic to solve a puzzle, but that might just be me that has a problem with that.
Having said that, 1-3 are good or at the very least a different experience to most games and should be at least played by anyone who calls themselves a gamer since they've been pretty influential.
>>318772810
>I can't even bring myself to play more than an hour of PW.
you're missing out. You really can't even scratch the surface of PW in a mere hour. It's easily the longest (and IMO, the comfiest) game in series.
>>318772810
This anon.
>>318771036
this desu
>>318763634
it does as much as it can, but the controls were held back on the PSP. its fine in the HD collection.
>>318772810
>ranking any other MGS higher than 1
How do people fail to realize that every other installment in the series is an imitation? From the story to the character development and even to the bosses.
MGS2 added the social commentary that isn't even that deep as people praise it to be and MGS3's redeeming features were the Boss and making in Bond themed.
Sure its fun to play the new ones to see how the mechanics progressed but everything else just pales in comparison to the first.
Its the same with people who prefer BB over SS, he's basically the same character with some quirks added in 3 cause Kojima wanted to start over since he wrote himself into a corner and regretted killing Liquid
>>318773609
Gameplay is the most important part of a game.
that's why people think they're better.
>>318772810
>I went into it expecting a stealth game so was kind of disappointed
I don't get it.
How is MGS not a stealth game?
>>318765093
don't be fooled by how easy or smooth a game is to control. the older ones all have better gameplay, even if they don't feel as good at first.
>>318774094
MGS1 has better boss battles, sniping sections, nikita sections, stealth and puzzles than two.
Also no shitty underwater parts and more variety.
>>318774095
Because the focus of the game is shooting bosses to death as opposed to evading them
>>318773609
Just because something is an imitation it doesn't mean it can't be an improvement. The fact that MGS2 is an imitation was written into the story quite well and is one of the reasons it succeeded for me.
>>318774095
There is sneaking in the game, but it didn't really feel like the focus since there are more boss fights and action sequences than there are stealth portions.
>>318762860
MGS = Great
MGS2 = Great
MGS3 = Overrated
MGS4 = Underrated
PW = Total shit
MGS5 = Thanks for the cool trailers
>>318774094
MGS1's gameplay is actually fine and the higher difficulties pose a real challenge. The only thing i have a problem is grabbing soldiers and getting an alert and even that can be avoided with practice.
>>318774396
>The fact that MGS2 is an imitation was written into the story quite well
It felt like a real cheap shot to me, especially if you played MGS1 when it released.
>play through tanker chapter, everything is going fine
>switch to plant, new character, fine
>going through the game, start seeing all these blatant parallels with 1 and without even being subtle
>its all explained as part of the S3 plan, which wasn't even true in the end
>misinformation and digital age etc
>game somehow gets praised as a postmodern masterpiece
At least 3 did its own thing
>>318762860
MGS1 hasn't aged well at all in controls but it's still playable kinda, miller being liquid blew my mind as a kid.
I didn't like MGS2 the whole backtracking part really ruined me.
MGS3 has aged the best and i still love the music, way to fall is so good. Overall a fantastic game.
>After MGS3
>PW was alright except for the weird rpg elements
>MGS4 had good gameplay just not enough of it
>GZ was perfect balance of everything
>TPP's world wasn't built for the gameplay it has like GZ
RIP MGS.
>>318774396
For bad players MGS actually has more stealth than action. Its only when you know what you are doing that the series turns into a boss rush (which I honestly don't mind)
Fukushima is the master mind behind them, not Kojima
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I played MGS1 before it was released in 1998. It came on a demo disk in a magazine. I thought the controls and camera were the worst thing humanity ever invented. After spending years on the internet and seeing MGS box and ! jokes, I played Twin Snakes when it was released and couldn't get over the camera and controls still and quit maybe an hour in. After playing games like Spliter Cell and Hitman, I knew what stealth games could be like and Twin Snakes played like trash.
I played MGS2 a few years back and was completely blown away. It's hands down one of the best games I ever played (And the only MGS game that felt like it had any soul, you can tell the development team actually cared about the project). I played MGS3 next and it felt like someone very important from MGS2 left and whoever was put in charge of the project loved James Bond movies too much. Jack and Rose's relationship in MGS2 is the most realistic and detailed romantic relationship I've seen in any game. Snake and Eva;s relationship in MGS3 is totally pointless and just there for shallow fanservice.
I played MGS1 next and was pretty disappointed. I played it in 1998 but it has not aged well. Maybe it pioneered some TECHNOLOGY, but it's a really underwhelming game by today's standards. This is not true for MGS2 however.
I fully expect to get lynched on /v/ for daring to criticize MGS1
MGS was a classic
MGS2 sucked, literally 6/10 although the cliffhanger ending and the system fucking up toward the end was a 10/10 moment
MGS3 was dope af
MGS4 was my 2nd fave
MGS5 was GOAT gameplay
>>318776261
>it felt like someone very important from MGS2 left and whoever was put in charge of the project loved James Bond movies too much
They switched places
>>318776971
I think directors, for instance Coppola, are capable of impressive works. But only under certain conditions? Before fame and success? Maybe they have a friend behind the scenes feeding them good ideas? I'm not sure.
Too young for MGS1
Too stupid for MGS2
MGS3 is the best game ever
Video games aren't art, but MGS2 is art.
>>318779275
mgs2 is so damn good, but most people seem to hate it
i can't understand it
mgs is great
mgs2 has way too god damn many cutscenes. i am sick of finishing a 10 minute long codec call only to take 5 steps forward and start another 10 minute codec call
mgs3 was also great
>>318780771
Codec calls are the best part of MGS, pleb
>Classic Tier
MGS1, MGS2
>Good Tier
MGS3, Ghost Babel
>If You Insist Tier
MG, MG2
>It was cool, I guess Tier
Peace Walker, GZ
>Just Cut My Shit Up tier
TPP
>>318779275
This is a retarded post
1 is fun and has the tightest plotting and best voice acting in the series
2 is fucking weird in a lot of cool ways and goes to a lot of places that games haven't had the balls to touch since
3 has great character work and a tight personal story line with a great juxtaposition of camp and serious shit
4 is a mess but I like the parts you play
5 plays great and is interesting in a lot of ways, left me feeling unfulfilled where 4 left me feeling sorta angry
2 > 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
