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ITT: Shit that makes you ashamed of being put in the same category
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ITT: Shit that makes you ashamed of being put in the same category as "gamers".
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literally everything related to gaming
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>>318745047
Not being able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose
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I literally only see this stuff when people post it here. What site are you using that this stuff is obnoxious enough for you to complain about it?
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the fact that Sony hasn't been put down after the 2011 network hack.
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>>318745047
The fact that I post on the same website as someone like you
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>>318745047
I used to buy from a vidya store that had rage faces on the wall and nyan cat posters, and one of the employees kept spouting meme shit at the register

Like this one time I bought an extra Dreamcast controller, and he said "playing a Dreamcast alone is dangerous, here, pay for this" or something like that.

I think it was during last summer, 2015, I came in looking for a PS2 game, and I overheard the same guy trying telling some stupid Twilight joke
>And the dog says "Ed....ward..."

And that's the last time I ever set foot in that shithole
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>>318745240
Usually you'll see this on Facebook
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>>318745047

#GamerGate
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I really don't care if I'm called a gamer or not, it's the generic term that's been around since the 80's. I'm not so autistic to think I'm above being called it because I play dark souls and unreal 2k4.

Besides I thought it was cool to be a gamer after GG when s retina said the term "gamer" was dead. What happened to that you contrarians?
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/v/
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>>318745047
browsing /v/
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>>318745047
About a week ago when /vr/ begged some diaper fetish guy to keep drawing his furry OC for them in a Bubsy thread.
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I'm a reader bruh and a movier man. fuk this gaymer shit bruh.
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Those 13 year old COD faggots are pretty embarrassing. I hope I wasn't that bad when I was a kid.
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>>318747646
>/vr/ begged some diaper fetish guy to keep drawing his furry OC for them in a Bubsy thread

I remember threads getting nuked at even the mention of a post-2000 game, but this is okay?
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>>318748232
The janitor there is notorious for being extremely biased. We've had threads that broke the 1999 violation stay up for weeks while tons of on topic threads get wiped out solely because someone said something the janitor didn't like, that and the combination of mods forgetting the place exists can create some really annoying moments.
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>>318745047
>ITT: Shit that makes you ashamed of being put in the same category as "gamers".
I have 2.

1 - Collectivists who think that they can blame me for what other people do. Might as well notice that both Hitler and I had eyebrows, therefore we must have a lot in common. Wow, both me and this other guy play video games, that must mean we're pretty much the same thing, great job raci- er, I mean collectivism.

2 - Both people who reject the term "gamer", and people who worship the word. If someone calls themselves a "gamer" that is simply their way of saying they play video games. So fucking what. It's not necessarily a "label", it is just one of the many ways of saying that you play video games. And to some people, they're content to "label" themselves, if it means saying "I'm a gamer" instead of saying "I play video games". That's just their way of saying it, so what. But then you also have people who say you have to apply the label to yourself if you play video games, which is really fucking gay. You don't even have to consider yourself a human being if you don't want to. You'd think all the feminists and SJWs would support gamers not identifying as gamers, when they support men calling themselves women and vice versa.
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>>318748413
I'll need to repost that the next time I see someone post your filename in earnest.
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>>318747196
>>318747423
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>>318747196
Obligatory.
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>>318746210
But everyone that does anything on Facebook is retarded. Look up "thin blue line" artwork or "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children". I'm sure you could find an edgy housewife cooking group on Facebook with retarded artwork.
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the people you see at midnight launches.

learned my lesson at the Halo 3 launch
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>>318748816
>furries
>not SJWs
kek
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>>318745047
Console niggers and multiplayer only niggers disgust me and make me wish I'd never heard of vidya.
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>>318745047
1. The Twitch community
2. Gaming journalism
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>>318747196
came here to say this
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>>318748816
That image is pure fucking cringe.

>le hitler and le juden

Christ.
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>>318748830
>NOT JUST A COMMON HOUSEWIFE
>I AM A MASTERCHEF
>A GLADIATOR OF THE KITCHEN.
>I FRIED THE ONIONS WITH A BLOODLUST FERVOR.
>I'VE USED KNIVES IN WAYS YOU COULDN'T IMAGINE
>I CAN CONCOCT ANY FLAVOR IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE
>I AM MASTERCHEF
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Literally everything and everyone that treats it like a culture rather than a hobby.
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>>318749652
but it has culture
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>>318747968
You probably were. However there isn't an online archive of how much if a fuckwit you were.
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Gamergate did it kind of. I just couldn't see how people were so angry about transparency in fucking video game journalism. Video. Game. Journalism.

And then all the extra shit happened and it's gone down hill ever since. Now whenever there's a game that has something that falls under the loose category of meme or sjw you can't talk about it without out obnoxious fuckwits spewing inane shit over and over again.

People always post shit like
>/v/
But it's never been this bad.
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Almost everything is cringeworthy. Shirts, references irl, e-celebs, gamers identifying as such anywhere, shoving it in peoples' faces in social networks, memes outside of their communities, "gaming journalism", youtube reviewers, fanboys etc.

Anything that isn't just sitting down and playing the game, shitposting anonymously and metagaming to improve your game.
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>>318745047
Using gamer as an identity rather than a descriptor.

Though, using any single trait of yourself as an identity is really just the most retarded thing.
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>>318749794
It's culture is shit.
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>>318750585
Only in the past 4 years

It was pretty cool before then
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>>318750569
>Though, using any single trait of yourself as an identity is really just the most retarded thing.
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>>318750585
That wasn't up for debate.
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>>318750249
>I just couldn't see how people were so angry about transparency in fucking video game journalism. Video. Game. Journalism.
Maybe because the media coverage of one's hobby, particularly the media specifically catering to that hobby, may in fact be of some importance to them?

Shocking, I know.
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>>318750871
Yeah...but it's just video games.
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>>318745047
>I learned that the cake was a lie
Wut? If you finished the game you would know it's actually not a lie.

10/10 I mad
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I don't give a shit about what other people think about my hobby so nothing to be ashamed of
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>>318747636
>literally just spiced nuts
I love how people slap "gamer" on shit and jack up the price like crazy
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>>318750965
>Yeah...but it's just books
>Yeah...but it's just music
>Yeah...but it's just cars
Et cetera.

If that's your attitude, maybe this is the wrong hobby for you.

It shouldn't even matter what sort of journalism it is. All journalism should be held to a universal standard.
Saying "yeah well it's video games so who gives a shit" is incredibly arbitrary and has no real basis in any logic. Journalism is journalism.
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>>318750871
What is there to cover?

>a reviewer might've slept with some guys to get good reviews!
>on kotaku!
>for depression quest!
oh...

well AAA titles still get 10/10 scores no matter what and you get called a hipster douchebag by everyone including /v/ if you try to say they're not very good
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Ch6N8QT00
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Everyone who plays F2P shit like LoL DoTA CSGO and every MMO that has ever existed on PC. Whenever I tell someone I play video games they instantly bundle me in with these cunts.
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>>318751208
>implying both of those things aren't a part of the same problem
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>>318751237
I love this video
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>>318751287
My point is that nobody cares at all about the big problem

TotalBiscuit kinda did, but now /v/ just makes fun of his ass cancer
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>heh heh yeah, I'm a fooder
>heh heh yeah, I'm a carer
>heh heh yeah, I'm a filmer
>heh heh yeah, I'm a booker

The word "gamer" is used by two groups of people. Children who think they're part of some elite group when in reality it's just a hobby, and marketers who don't know any better. Fuck this "culture."
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>>318745047
when people talk about non-PC games
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>>318751237
>I can honestly say I've been asked a million times why I play games
Has this ever happened to anyone? I've never been asked why I play games by anyone before
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Basically the two most insipid communities dedicated to the medium that contribute literally nothing positive. Memes, hiveminding, hypocracy, bigotry, armchair faux intellectualism, cynicism, creative bankruptcy, etc. An overwhelming majority of posts/threads are pure cringe and represent the absolute worst of video gaming and "gamers".
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>>318751137
>If that's your attitude, maybe this is the wrong hobby for you.
What do you even mean? My inability to care if the journalism for a luxury item is honest removes me from the list of people to enjoy it?
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>>318751338
People have complained about shit like paid-off reviews for years if not decades, the Quinnspiracy thing was just the straw that broke the camel's back, and something visible enough to provide leverage to prove what everyone already knew.

To solve the problem that led to Five Guys is to solve the problem that led to MGSV's review bootcamp. They are the same problem and cannot exist independently.

The revision of ethics guidelines and the enforcement of full disclosure in coverage goes a long way to solve the entire issue.
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>>318751086
noob
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>>318751237
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ZHQ2coxEY#t=47m
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>>318747196
>>318748731
>>318748816
>>318748979
I wish you faggots would go back to tumblr.
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>>318751237
That wasn't cringe it was our generations Churchill sounding of the siren call of courage and virtue.
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I think you idiots just hate games and need to do something else fuck off
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>>318751540
That's all good in theory, but in actuality everyone almost immediately stopped giving a shit when it stopped being about ripping on a SJW indie dev

Review bootcamps are still a thing
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>>318751507
Glad you could be here.
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>>318751453
Nope. Many people I know play games.
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>>318751508
Your inability to see why anyone WOULD care.

If you don't care, whatever. You do you.

How you could honestly say "I don't get it, it's just video games guys :^)" is nothing less than absurd if you actually like video games.

I for one don't appreciate it when the press for my favorite hobby orchestrates an organized assault of articles asserting the death of their own readership.

I don't like when a journalist gives positive coverage to a game that their roommate made.
I don't like when review records for a certain person or site are so incongruous that it becomes clear there is some sort of foul play.

It's all a bunch of bullshit and I'd like for my favorite thing to get the same journalistic respect that everyone else's favorite things get.
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>>318745047
>>318746210
we need all the self-proclaimed "gamers" we can get after gg. by we I mean consumer advocates in video games. publishers and distributors are easily frightened by angry moms and feminazis, and developers in the west are already under the politically correct boot heel of the regressive left. the word "gamer" is used in identity politics as a derogatory by people who want to change and disparage the video game industry. if that doesn't concern you then you're a filthy casual
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>>318749886
>be 10 years old
>join a role-playing forum (this shit was popular at the time, basically D&D style with a game master and dice rolls etc..)
>taking place in the Star Wars universe
>name myself "Darth Revan"
>do all kind of stupid shit all the time with realizing it, like throwing my lightsaber into lava to stop the flow when I was trapped
>people laughing at me so much that a sub-forum dedicated to me was created, where people would just mock my actions
>one guy tries to defend me and is ultimately banned from the forum
>decide it's my time to go, plan my escape from the game world to be an epic moment
>instead die in my own spaceship because I opened the airlock mid-hyperspace
I would pay actual money to find an archive of that forum, but it was a really small community so it's probably lost deep in the internet now.
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>>318751915
>with realizing it
without*
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>>318745047
weebs being physically incapable of not eating up blatant porn fodder games and hailing them as some of the best humanity has to offer
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>>318751624
>$68,000
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>>318746136
>twilight joke
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>>318745154
This. What a fucking disaster. Literally EVERY SINGLE THING related to gamer "culture" is cringeworthy as fuck. Like the people go out of their way to humiliate themselves.
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>>318746136
Well that joke flew over your fucking head
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>>318751237
>Eternal Virgin
Every time.
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>>318751835
>I don't like when a journalist gives positive coverage to a game that their roommate made.
Since when does anyone look at reviews for indie shit?

Why does anyone still care about fucking reviews? You can now return everything on Steam if you've played it for less than 2 hours. YouTube and Twitch are swarming with Let's Plays and live video of every single new game.

Why would you ever read about a game instead of trying it or watching gameplay of it? Nobody gives a shit about gaming journalism because game reviews are useless as shit.
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>>318751624
Should you be on the other chan, buddy?
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>>318745154
/Thread
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>>318751237
i have no problem with this video

there was something it reminded me of but i fucking forget

oh yea it was a video on why video games are so compelling because of three factors

it might have been an extra credits video... or maybe not whatever
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>>318752347
>Since when does anyone look at reviews for indie shit?
It doesn't fucking matter dude.

>Why would you ever
It does not matter.
The simple fact that it exists warrants the need for an ethical standpoint.

Journalism is journalism and none of your arbitrary rationalizations keep this from being true.

How many people give a shit about topography journalism? Probably less than gaming.
Even still, there needs to be standards in that journalism because it is STILL JOURNALISM.
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>>318752347
Not just game reviews, but even movie and book reviews are shit. Anyone paid to review a product should not have their opinion held on a pedestal. They're people and make mistakes.
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>>318748413
The art is good
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>>318751237
>they said i'd never be able to love
>but that's a lie!
>I've saved Princess Peach!
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>>318752538
>>318752202
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Nothing. I don't give a flying fig and it has nothing to do with myself.
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>>318752579
>it does not matter

Yes it does. You're arguing that something needs to exist when it clearly doesn't.

>it's JOURNALISM
Yes yes journalism is a good thing, but what's more transparent then seeing the game for yourself? What could a journalist POSSIBLY offer over that?
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Admitting that you are "gamer" is same that as you would admit that you are permavirgin loser
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This encompases my feelings on the matter OP asked:
https://youtu.be/hpsbj0OoeNo
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>>318745154

This, everything is always so fucking cringe inducing when anything "gamer" related is spoken of. What the hell just happened to being that person who happens to like video games?
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>>318752659
>Filthy Frank
>>>/b/
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>>318752748
Ok
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>>318752734
>You're arguing that something needs to exist
I'm not.

I'm arguing that BECAUSE it still exists, there needs to be certain standards that it is held to while it still exists.

>but what's more transparent then seeing the game for yourself? What could a journalist POSSIBLY offer over that?
You're not even trying to see the angle I'm putting forward, are you?

It's abundantly obvious that the ultimate judgement of any work's worth is your own. That's the nature of subjectivity.

That's not what I'm talking about here.
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>>318752748
if you aren't a permavirgin loser then this doesn't bother you. if someone asks if I'm a gamer I'll say yes, but I won't label myself that like it's an identity
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>>318752854
You people are fucking pathetic
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>>318747196

>being ashamed of this
>being this much of a faggot
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>>318752932
I mean everbody plays the games, but when you are at bar andwoman asks you what you do on your freetime, its better to tell her something else than you roleplay as little anime girl etc
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>>318753025

So you think stuff like pic related is cool and awesome?
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What is an actually acceptable and not cringeworthy term for someone who plays games?
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>>318752947
>because it exists it needs to be pure

Well that's just dumb.

When's the last time you watched the news on TV rather than read about an event from a dozen independent online articles using the same firsthand smart phone footage that the big networks use?

Journalism is done, man. It doesn't need to be pure, it hasn't been pure since the digital age began and news stations had to fight for relevancy. If any journalist stuck with the cold hard facts, they'd be out of a job because the rest of the world saw it an hour after it happened. It's all sensationalist bullshit now. You're your own journalist, be as pure as you want.

The most a video game journalist has done in the past 5 years is blow the lid of a new sequel for absolutely no reason or benefit.
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>>318753385
video game enthousiast
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>>318753385
Gamer.

All you have to be is a not-retard and suddenly it isn't even remotely cringeworthy.
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>>318753385
no labels, period
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>>318753308
Yes I do and I played all those games fuck off and try to get the cool kids to like you some more jackass
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>>318745154

Upboated
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PAe7U3IMs
This pretty much sums up the average gamer nowadays.
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>>318753423
>Journalism is done, man.
Look, you aren't getting it.

I do NOT CARE if there are better ways to get information.
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

If you're going to be a journalist and do journalism, then you have to do it right. No matter what your subject matter is, no matter your platform, you have to be a fucking journalist.

The fact that GamerGate even happened in the first place should tell you how much this means to people, how important it is that the press do their job the way they're supposed to. Why is that not enough for you?

Just because there are other ways to get information, suddenly it's inconsequential how a journalist conducts himself?
You know that sites like Kotaku and IGN are getting millions of unique pageviews every month, right? They still have influence. They still have relevancy.

And again, even if they didn't, even if Kotaku's peak traffic for all of 2015 was 5,000 people, they still have an obligation as journalists to conduct themselves in an ethical manner. Because that's their fucking job.
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>>318753992
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>>318753992
>that left guy face
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>>318752640
Furries tend to be talented artists and animators, its just that they put all that talent into making furry stuff
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This must be you op
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>>318754030
I get it. While it exists it should be ethical.

But it's impossible. In a perfect world journalists would accept poverty to remain steadfast in the face of bias, but that doesn't happen anymore. Even journalists need to eat, and eating means pageviews. Pageviews mean clickbait.

>the fact that gamergate even happened should tell you how much this means to people
The fact that it's now a laughingstock of an event should tell you how much it doesn't. People wanted to make fun of a girl who supposedly slept with some guys to get good reviews on her bullshit indie game. And now mentioning GamerGate is the quickest way to kill any credibility.

It'd be nice if a journalist conducted themselves correctly. It would be, and that's the way it should be. But take Twitch as an example- Halo 5, Overwatch, Rainbow Six Siege- they were given to top streamers to play and show off. You know why? Because someone who plays video games in front of tens of thousands for a living will offer a much better review than a journalist who needs to pay off their student loans.

You see what I'm saying? A journalist should be an ethical light in darkness. But they can't be that and do their job, because they don't actually offer anything new.

IGN may get millions of unique pageviews, but do you really think anyone buying the new CoD or Assassin's Creed made sure IGN rated it well before buying it? No, they went to YouTube to look at gameplay. IF that.
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>>318754389

like the monalisa in period blood, eh luke?
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>>318754878
>Pageviews mean clickbait.
Clickbait isn't inherently unethical.
Just annoying.

You can have clickbait and also standards.

>And now mentioning GamerGate is the quickest way to kill any credibility.
Thanks to a calculated assault of character assassination by the press which was targeted by GG.

Really, it only validates the existence of the movement.
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> retards spending their time posting on /v/
> hate gaming culture

the irony
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>>318755037
Do you really think anyone cared enough about GamerGate to pull some counter intelligence bullshit?

GamerGate wasn't a big event. It didn't tear down any walls, it didn't reveal any huge corruption. Who the FUCK cared about Kotaku's review of Depression Quest? It's ridiculous. And comparing it to Watergate? A fucking Kotaku writer getting some heat from Twitter compared to the goddamned POTUS being outed as corrupt? It was laughable the second someone coined the term.
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>>318751540
>To solve the problem that led to Five Guys is to solve the problem that led to MGSV's review bootcamp. They are the same problem and cannot exist independently.

But the problem that led to Five Guys was /pol/ really fucking hating feminists and jumping on the chance to start another ''movement'' to attack them under the guise of doing good.

It was laughed right off of /v/ back at the start because nobody gave a fuck until the conservatives started drumming up interest.

Also, daily reminder that it was proven nobody Zoe allegedly slept with actually reviewed her game, and that Eron was full of shit.
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>>318753992
10/10

It dose an old heart good to see real vidya satire
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>>318745154
And, as always, the first reply is the best one.

The thread didnt need to go on after this.
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Myself, I tend to prefer the term ludophile.
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>>318745047
>being put in the same category as "gamers"
>gamers
This place is truly lost.
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>>318755294
>Do you really think anyone cared enough about GamerGate to pull some counter intelligence bullshit?
>it didn't reveal any huge corruption
I see you didn't really follow it when it was happening.

It was a big event. We're still talking about it, aren't we?

GG uncovered a clusterfucked web of collusion across the entire mainstream gaming press.
The GamesJournosPro email list, where conversations organizing certain narratives across multiple websites took place, wherein some people were silenced in secret for dissenting opinions, having their jobs threatened.
Nepotism as far as the eye could see, journalists funding devs funding journalists who were judging their games for awards funded by journalists who were friends with devs. It's a fucking mess and it reeks to high hell.

It was really quite something, and it becomes glaringly obvious why the press released like 12 "gamers are dead" articles within 24 hours of each other. They wanted to nip it in the bud because they knew they'd been found out.
This is in addition to rampant censorship of discussion on their own sites, NeoGAF, some other forums, Reddit and even right here on 4chan.

Why else would they bother? If it were just about Zoe Quinn, it would have been over in about a week. Let the memers meme, muh five guys, everyone has a good laugh.

But it was just the tip of the iceberg and nobody had even really bothered to cover their tracks to anyone who dug even a little bit started uncovering things.
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>>318755873
it was lost 5 years ago
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>>318753664
weak bait.
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>>318755930
It was easily over within a week
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>>318747196
>becoming the ultimate boogeyman for SJW's
>making people more aware of tumblr dykes
>bad
I wish it did happen on some other website
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>>318751453
No one has ever asked him that question; he just wanted an excuse to make his faggy video. What people really ask him is why he's such a tremendously autistic faggot.
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>>318756052
It really wasn't. It was like three months.
Maybe two.
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>>318753664
>Jojo fans being autistic
Nothing new, in other words
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>>318749101
>being triggered by Hitler
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>>318745047
being a gamer or considering yourself a gamer is just embarrassed and autism. people in general think gamers are creepy nerds, whereas some gamers start believing "being nerds are cool today" .
I see "plebs" are still right. fuck gamers.
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>>318751268

>Ever telling people you play vidya.
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>>318755930
>GG uncovered a clusterfucked web of collusion across the entire mainstream gaming press.
No it didn't. It found out a bunch of industry figures were friends and sometimes talk to eachother.

>The GamesJournosPro email list [...] for dissenting opinions, having their jobs threatened.

Not a single email found from that indicated anyone had their jobs threatened, and there is literally nothing wrong with a bunch of likeminded individuals having an email list. The practice is as old as the internet itself is.

>Nepotism as far as the eye could see [...] It's a fucking mess and it reeks to high hell.

That didn't happen either, they just found out a bunch of journalists were writing shit about games they'd kickstarted, promoing friends who were running one, or otherwise.

At best one or two fringe incidences were uncovered.

>It was really quite something, and it becomes glaringly obvious why the press released like 12 "gamers are dead" articles within 24 hours of each other. They wanted to nip it in the bud because they knew they'd been found out.

You mean a bunch of articles all came out covering a particular news topic within a relatively short timeframe? Oh, the horror!

Also lmao at you niggers still calling those articles the 'gamers are dead' series when literally only one of them said that and it was all about how the hobby had grown too big to for ''gamer'' to be considered a singular, unified identity and now it could apply to virtually anyone.

>This is in addition to rampant censorship of discussion on their own sites, NeoGAF, some other forums, Reddit and even right here on 4chan.

So moderators doing their job by clearing up shitposting and conspiracy theorist nonsense and harassment and doxxing is a problem now?

>Why else would they bother?

Because you fuckers are annoying.

>But it was just the tip of [...] a little bit started uncovering things.

You're legit delusional.
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Why do "gamers" have to be loud, autistic and constantly talk about game-y aspects like if you don't play all the biggest triple a games, you're not a real "gamer" or if you can't get a high k-d in a shooter, you're not a real "gamer". What cringes ME the most is the entry-level lcd triple a gamer that can't see past games from a consumer-level. and yet you get these child mentality-having fuckwits trying to hoist their hobby as a fucking art. The sheer amount of dumb bottom-barrell plebby, capeshit-watching, consumer-grade comments I find on articles from sites like ign or on youtube are so dumbfounding it's incredible. I'm sorry, but I'm a film guy foremost, and that pic comparing hobby intelligence cracks me up because even if it's shitposting fuel, there's so much merit to it. For example, you have "gamers" trying to defend their hobby as art, but they know absolutely nothing ABOUT genuine art nor do they boast the sophistication to even critique art. They're a bunch of entitled self-righteous babies. Did you SEE all the hateful comments against The Last Guardian, one of the last bastions of hope for artistry in a dying medium, at E3?? People saying things like "this looks boring", "what do you do", "who wants to play a game about a rat-chicken-dog thing", "this is what they spent years working on?" Yet they'll go gaga over action rubbish like uncharted, halo, or horizon simply because they see guns and action. These are the types of people they criticize some of the best games ever like Journey and The Talos Principle and bunch them together with pretentious, dull, monotonous walking sims like Dear Esther and Everyone Goes to the Rapture then proceed to call these games bargain bin indie trash. It's as if these people don't know the definition of art, but want to claim their hobby is in vain of getting mass critical acceptance or to defend its legitimacy. Overall, more "gamers" should be like this man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2VHj9cWOU
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Anyone shallow enough to feel that they have to identify themselves through a single hobby that they do needs to kill themselves and stop wasting the resources which could be used to help more worthy people.

It's not just "gamers" but stoners who don't shut the fuck up about weed, faggots who don't shut the fuck up about being a faggot, Trannies and their non stop bitching etc.
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>>318754389
i always repeat this. they're so good, why make that shit?
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>>318750249
They were trying to change the market. They were working together to set up a blockade on anything they didn't like and they were practically inserting themselves into game companies requiring them to adhere to weird moral standards. The only people game companies could hear were their outraged fans and it was sort of like actual customers didn't even exist to them.

Or more accurately they were being paid to do this by a large organization connected to DARPA and Microsoft. Almost every major social justice "pundit" was in some way connected. It seemed to a lot of people that they were becoming popular because /v/ disagreed with them and got angry, but the reality is that they were actually all working under the same organization and intentionally rose certain people to celebrity status so that they could have a megaphone for their political positions.
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>>318756432
The Talos Principle psychology test said I'm a sociopath, and I don't use my intelligence to my full potential.
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>>318756432
It's a marketing tactic. "Us gamers, right?" lends credibility to marketers they wouldn't otherwise have. It's an incredibly hamfisted method and it really is as cringey to everyone else as it appears to you. The only people who are even slightly affected are casual players and vulnerable young kids who don't really pay close enough attention to see the discrepancy between the audience according to marketing and the audience according to reality. This method reaches very few if any actual fanatics and all it really does is misrepresent and upset them.

It's just stupid and marketers don't really know what people want, don't read into it too much.
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>>318756432

Not a bad rant, but

>Did you SEE all the hateful comments against The Last Guardian, one of the last bastions of hope for artistry in a dying medium, at E3??

Even as someone who loves SotC, and has waited for The Last Guardian for years, I have to say that the E3 demo did look kind of dull. I really wonder if the gameplay in the final product will look a bit more compelling. I feel like this guy is sort-of insinuating that just because SotC is one of the games that might be closest to being considered "art", Team ICO gets a free 'It's art' pass on every other one of their games. We'll see how The Last Guardian turns out, but from what I've seen so far it's got a long way to go

>These are the types of people they criticize some of the best games ever like Journey and The Talos Principle and bunch them together with pretentious, dull, monotonous walking sims...

Why does everyone and their mother seem to give Talos Principle a free pass? This was a game where some guys from Croteam cobbled together a pretty barebones ( but pretty looking ) puzzlegame, and hired a guy after the game was already done to slap a narrative on it. Is it a good narrative? Yeah, sure, but I certainly wouldn't praise the game so much. If anything, if you're trying to make a game that MIGHT be considered "art" surely the gameplay should be heavily intertwined with the theme / story. Take a look at any Ice Pick Lodge games, for example. The Void is a great example of conveying the theme's feeling through gameplay.
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That the modern gamer just throws all their disposable income at people playing videogames makking them rich and being professional pathetic dick suckers and funding shit games a ridiculous prices on kikestarter's
And making series like assassin's creed and bioware trash successful
And contribute to the ruining of old good franchises like Tomb Raider
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>>318750965
Nigger, there have been wars fought over less money than what video games produce. Actual blood shed. And your response is
>b-but they're just video games
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>>318757596
this is true, but those people are the periphery

the core is what needs defending, since plebs who crowdfund, buy day1dlc and shill for garbage they haven't even played really don't care about the state of the video games industry anyways
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>>318756374
what kind of mental problems do you need to have in order to make a post like this? whether you're trolling or not
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>>318757252
For the Last Guardian rebuttal, I walked away fairly impressed by what I saw. If you peer into the details of ow the demo played out, the entire sequence is performed contextually with no hud or interfering game-y elements. Yeah the whole seemingly scripted uncharted jump and then whoops collapsing platform thing was a little forced, but as the demo progressed and you witness the symbiotic co-dependent relationship between these two bloom in front of you, I forgive some of the flaws I saw such as in graphics.

One key moment I really liked was when the dog reacts to the shadowy demonic statue and you have to infer what to do to it in order to calm him down. Overall, I'm know TeamIco is trying to go for naturalism and really trying to perfect the balance of art and game into one cohesive package, and that overall is what I believe they've been toiling to do all these years and not focus on graphics or multipayer or other triple a game-y bullshit.

But regardless, I want to support their endeavors because this is a breakthrough watershed moment for games as a medium akin to film during the era of director-led passion projects in Hollywood when directors toiled and spent years overbudgeting their artistic works to achieve the next level of their vision and push the medium forward regardless of critical appraisal or consumer-pandering. And Sony is fostering this growth for TeamIco interestingly enough.
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Never heard of TLG until e3 but I think the ratdog is cute.
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