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Project M ceased developement yesterday. Because of this, 2 unreleased builds were leaked. A dev build with new characters, and planned 3.61 Halloween update with new costumes.
Dev build:
https://mega.nz/#!lIE3QZqJ!kn-MGXnOxnoL7rt0ZigEjeXeJMuoW88zu8e77u96mFo
"you can play Sami by renaming the Sami folder in pf/fighter to Snake and naming Snake whatever you want. This makes Snake unplayable but let's you try Sami."
3.61 (torrent):
http://4chas.ftp.sh/public/projectm361.zip.torrent

Fan build that merged the 2, adding the new costumes to the dev build:
https://github.com/TheOriginalSINe/Project-M-Dev-Build-Completion
(Click download zip)
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So I guess they disbanded because they were paranoid? That's the lamest way to go.
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ghost dog when
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>>318721451

Replace "Wavedash" with "Prototype Fighting Game" and you have the explanation the mods covered up.
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>>318721372
L-lewd.

Waitin for that iso guy desu senpai.
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So far I'm liking Lyn, although her ground game seems a bit weak. Utilt is garbage, I don't get the point of it. Dtilt is too slow. Jab combo feels a bit wonky. Smashes and grab are fine at least.
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>>318721451
all this legal council shit sounds like TPP is behind it
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Any sort of guess on how long it might take for the two builds to be merged together? And what's this talk of Ridley being added, were there files for him found or something?
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>>318721372
Her face made me think it was Wendy Koopa, not Candy Kong.
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Former PMDev here:

First off I do not agree with what you did. I feel like an idiot for ever standing up for, and trusting you in general. I feel personally betrayed but I don't hate you. I'm somewhat relieved the unfinished files made it to anyone who was at all interested in them

but hooooly shit I hope everyone realizes just how unfinished those characters are. Isaac is nowhere near the "25%" people have been spouting. He's steaming pile of 5% shit and hasn't been worked on for over a year. He IS NOT salvageable and you guys would be better off replacing him with literally any other KCMM PSA out there. Knuckles was around 90% and lyn at like 75%.

Also SINe, tread carefully... any further distribution is putting anyone who has worked on PM at risk (including wiiztec)
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>>318721571
It's more than just this.
When they got proper legal advice about creating a new game using Project M assets, they were told the connection from Brawl was too strong, and releasing the game at any second will blow up in their faces, and if released will kill them.
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>>318721775
The is an unofficial fan mod of Ridley on smashbaords. Completely unofficial, some random guy is memeing it up about adding him.
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>>318721849
first part was @Wiiztec
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>>318721686
>The Phantom Pain
fucking knew it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
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>>318721849
No you aren't, and no it isn't.
Ignore this retard SINe.
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>>318721849

An actually confirmed PMDev said 98% for knuckles and 85% for lyn
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>>318721849
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>>318721942
for a second i read your post as telling ppl to ignore SINe
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>>318721849
You guys should have finished those 4 instead of memeing it up with costume additions.
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>>318721849
Just answer me this:

Is it because of paranoia?
Or TPP?
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>>318721849
Fuck off. It doesn't matter if they were 5% made or not. There's people like the guy who made Waluigi by himself. I'm sure the internet can finish Isaac within the month.
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>>318721571
I don't think so

The mods' "cover up" combined with
>>318719927
this post if I'm reading it right says that a select few members really got into the legal side of things and found out they're already in deep shit and could get into way deeper shit the further they continued to work on PM. Nobody ordered a C&D or Gag order but they realized the scope of what could happen if they did which is apparently potentially a million dollar lawsuit.

from the post:
>>The truth is that it has not been a responsive action, but a preventive one. Certain event (which, again, doesn't involve a company contacting the PMDT) made the members fear a legal problem if the project kept on. At some point, it was determined that, even just the fact of releasing the announced patch, PM 3.61, could involve negative actions that nobody in the team could afford at all. A lawyer was contacted and it was confirmed that the possible threats the PMDT could face in an hypothetical legal sue were really terrible. As the PMDT was formed mostly by teenagers, people with little money or even in red numbers, and with a long life to run, it was determined that it was better for their safety to stop immediately just in case. It's been a hard decission that had to be made public as soon as possible. And even in this case, nobody guarantees that there will be no legal actions taken in the future because copyrighted content has been distributed already.

This is from a PMDT member who's been in the team for ages and up to this point has yet to speak on the matter.
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>>318722101
but i like meh mes
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>>318721857
>mod a game & plan to sell it
>get mad when people mod your mod
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>>318721849
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>>318721857
>create a new game using PM assets

are they retarded or just meleefags?
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>>318721849
Share this with nano and theytah, will ya lad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVV49zPd1o
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Project M'lady ended as expected, no surprises here. Chucklefuck manbabbies can't take the typical banter from a lawyer's email advice even after six years of Nintendo not giving a fuck.

PSSSSSSHHHHHH, just end yourselves right after you've finished burning down that bridge, ya cowering tosspot hacks. I bet you wet yourselves and are still shaking from reading that lawyer's email. lawl
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>>318722172
Why now? Why because of Lyn and Knuckles? Don't tell me SEGA is the one who sued*

*told them to recieve legal counsel and plan their next move carefully, like any good supervillain
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Alright guys.

If that ISO guy isn't gonna show.

How can I get the SD method to work? I have all the things needed, but when i load up geko all I get is "no codes found" and brawl boots up.... any help here?
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Reposting magical clone engine that the devs said no one would ever figure out how to use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfN3U494yZg
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So long, gay Bowser.
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>>318722606
Knux's fucking face gets me every time
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>>318721849
How the fuck are you guys getting these BS percentages?
5% of a character wouldn't be playable. I'd consider maybe a model alone 5%. Isaac has an almost full moveset, regardless of how good it is yet
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>>318721942
I meant more like, don't let it trace back to you.

>>318721979
I would not say 98% but knux was definitely the closer of the 2. They both needed a lot of balance adjustments though. They are definitely not tournament ready yet but are kinda fun to play as either way.

>>318722101
I wish we had. We were finally gonna be able to start focusing on 4.0 stuff after the halloween release.

>>318722114
I honestly can't answer that, only a few members of the Dev team know the whole story. I'd of liked to continue working but was just told that everything needed to stop immediately.
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>>318722508
Man, you should have thrown some memes in there.
>PM is now open source
>literally untraceable and impossible to sue all the new anon devs
>bugs that have existed for MONTHS fixed in a single DAY
Such a wonderful thing. Fuck the PMDT cocksuckers. The "tourney" scene was dead anyways. Can't wait to play the fixed game.
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>>318720863
But where is the line drawn?

Like the Ridley mod. It's pretty well put together for something done by one person, but you probably couldn't get a consensus on whether it deserves to be in a tourney build or not, some people might think it's up to snuff while others would consider it amateur shit, maybe good for a beginner but not up to the standards of the official PM characters. And Ridley is probably the most well-liked unofficial character, people would have an even harder time getting something like Waluigi or Bomberman in a tourney build but you'd probably find people still pushing for it.

You're right that any MUGEN-tier shit is unlikely to gain anything too sizeable, but it seems like it'd lead to a large amount of shitposting for any topic with two opposite sides of sizeable followers.
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>>318722508
Keep crying bitch nigga.
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>>318722553
Sega didn't sue for Jet Set Sonic
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So this is just going to get forked, you know?
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>>318722562
he did show, it didn't work.

there was another guy in the last thread who insisted on being the same guy who made the SD files, and he was going to try making an ISO too

doubt that'll work either.
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>>318722702
They're making the percentages up because they aren't actually PMDT.
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>>318722553
At this point I've just decided they saw how deep the legal hole was and couldn't risk going forward with the process.

So considering this, I know it sounds naive, but couldn't a third party step in and ask Nintendo about this? Couldn't fans ask Nintendo for their word not to fuck PMDT in the ass? Would that get them to pick back up where they left off?
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>>318722813
like 4chanX?
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>>318722781
Sega loves publicity for anything that isn't criticizing their poor work effort.
Nintendo has a chode up their ass with western culture
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>>318722716
You guys could have given me the hypest shit but instead decided to make costumes that any brawl vaulter could do. wtf man.
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>>318722697
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>>318722890
I know but even the people saying 25%
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>>318722953
Yeah, they can. I don't know why that hasn't been an alternative.
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>>318721979
Do you think any of the devs who personally worked on the characters could give a rough idea of what hasn't been included for Lyn? Knux I think we can extrapolate pretty easy, but if we had a guiding hand for Lyn it'd probably help her not turn to shit.
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>>318722851
So any reason why the SD method gives me "no codes found" other than i'm incompetent?

using dolphin btw.
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Can someone explain how randos working on the open sourced PM is endangering the development team outside of whoever leaked it?
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>>318721282

They could release it for free with no legal ramifications of they labled it interactive art.

But they're Jews so
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>>318722953
I think if it was ever formally brought to Ninty's attention they would have no choice but to shut it down or else everyone will use it as an example and use it to justify their own mods, which they don't want to happen
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>check smashboards
>everybody literally jerking PMDT off and licking their feet
>IF SEE ANY TO RUNNING ANYTHING BUT 3.6 THEY WILL BE SHAMED FOREVER
How fucking sickening.
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>>318722127
But can he be good if he were made in a month? I'm of the opinion that anyone making anything should take their time to ensure quality. Waluigi looks decent (something about him seems clunky when he jumps, but maybe it's better when you're playing than wasting), but he took more than a year of effort, even if some of it was likely on hiatus.
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>>318723102

I remember there was this picture for Lyn about her down B during that leak. It's some strange combination of a movement option and a counter. I don't know where it is though.
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>>318722702
That's what he is right now. A super shitty model thrown overtop of Ike's animation file with some awful new move animations. Characters have like 500 animations and Isaac had maybe ~20 of them replaced and not even replaced with anything very nice.

He is nothing more than a concept right now.
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>>318723145

Because the dev team is made up of divas, faggots, niggers, and dictators.
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>>318723302
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>>318723271
Smashgayassesboards was always cocksucker central for the PMDT to get their ego-goobers stroked relentlessly.

I bet they'd dance in PMDT jizz rain with their tongues out if the PMDT could spray them with it.
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>>318721849
Yeah after reading all of this and "million dollar lawsuit", I'm gona wait for more details before continuing. I don't think anything more should be done than finishing Knuckles and Lyn, I have no intention of making an "official" alternative, I just want closure.
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People should check out Mewtwo2000's facebook post.

It's a pretty concise explanation of what went down.
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>we edited and modded a game without its author's consent
>don't you fucking dare edit our mod, that's illegal
Just how fucking retarded can you be? And the worst part is that people are agreeing with them.
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holy fucking shit I think I'm in love with Lyn

1.Fox's speed
2.Falco's projectile/recovery
3.Marth's sword/dunk
4.??????
5.Profit motherfuckers

anyone in MW wanna play some friendlies?
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>>318723316
But he has different attacks, for the most part, with different effects, damage, frame data, etc.
I get what you're saying, but a lot of that is visual stuff. As far as actually playing him, he's well on his way
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>>318723186
It already was, Nintendo stopped it from being played at big sponsored tourney's & streamed on twitch

Nintendo were not going to fucking sue them or anything, they would have done that a while ago if so
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>>318723582
>Smashgayassesboards
Are you 12 years old?
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>>318723624
screencap it faggot
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>>318723721
Alright, will do.
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>>318723582
hello reddit
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>>318721635
>>318722851
Yeah it's not gonna happen, I would need to make a new iso builder just for this build and I really don't want to.

>>318723136
Make sure Insert SD is checked in config.
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>>318723651

I'm liking her too. As a guy that plays Roy, she feels pretty natural.
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>>318723271
Faggots, even getting mad at 3.6.1 with link's grab fixed i bet
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>>318723681
That's not a public, official statement though.
Although I guess legal advice could stay between the mediator, Ninty, and PMDT if they did it. No one would have to know.
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>>318723681

Because Nintendo is smart enough to understand that if you sue a mod team out of existence, some other guys will pick up the work and continue it.

Which happened because the dev team in question pussied out.

The reason they're so butthurt and in full damage control has nothing to do with the threat of a lawsuit. It's because they've lost control, and don't get to dictate what people play, or how they play.

Their credibility is also in question. See the guy who figured out the NEVER EVER EVER clone engine and made a bunch of clones already.
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Fuck the law.
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>>318723624
Basically:
>Project M devs wanted to make their own game for money after 6 years of nothing
>Knew about stopping PM since September
>Stopped PM out of legal fear so they can cash out on a Rivals of Ether type game that won't sell well.
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Part 1
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>>318723698
It's just cheap, silly wordplay, nothing to get all "12-yrs-old" buzzwords about, ya bitter li'l bitch
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Gang's all here...
:(
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>>318723930
Ah yes, from the Pre-Awakening days.
Before the series went down the shitter.
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>>318723928
shut the fuck reddit
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So wait, who was getting pissed about people modding PM? Did they actually tell them to stop developing their modded version?
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>>318723924
Part 2
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>>318724063
No one did, they chickened out.
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>>318724012
>Before the series went down the shitter.
That was when Kaga left.
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>>318724063
The PMDT has been telling everyone to not mod their, to not distribute modded versions, and to shame and ostracize anybody that tries to change the mod. All for the "sake" of the community.
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>>318723930
as how it should be

all it needs it Ephiram and Hector (a PSA mod of him exists) to be truly complete
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>>318722953
I fucking love Lyn's aerial neutral-b animation
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>>318724065
>>318723924
Finally, Part 3
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>>318724063
Strongbad is being a bitch on smashboards and saying that further versions are 'unsanctioned' and shit.

What fucking arrogance.
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>>318724063
they got scared of the little advice their lawyer told them
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>>318723804
I play fox/falco/marth mostly in Melee and I really like her potential. I was also putting off getting into PM netplay until I built a better PC for it.
what could have been... :'^(
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>>318724235
wut if u just make a wide picture with all 3
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so what download has the bugfixes (sami apparently has some sorta crash glitch on alts?) I've heard about and all of the new content from the dev builds
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>>318724261
They legally should say that if what they say about getting fucked in the ass by legal shit is true.
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>>318724261
we, the modding community, should just call post-3.6 PM "Project Resurrection" for now on since PMDT is irrelevant now.
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what a queer
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>>318722508
sums it up best
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>>318723658
True but the attacks have no sense of cohesion other than just being a little different. Most of them are just random hey let's make him swing a sword like this.

I'm all for someone building a new Isaac, but in his current state there's no way I can agree with him being 1/4th of the way completed. There's too much left to work on him to justify that.
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>>318724339
In hindsight, a pretty good idea.
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>>318724352
choose 3.61 if you want the most balanced and normal version of project m, with the alts.

choose the other one if you want to try the new characters.

as of right now, there is a merger build with the new characters and alts, but not the balance and stability of 3.61.
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>>318724192
I think Hector Ike does it well enough.

>>318724472
I like the name of "Shin Project M" an anon threw around a bit ago.
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>>318724352
https://github.com/TheOriginalSINe/Project-M-Dev-Build-Completion
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>>318722725
to be honest on smashboards people were expecting the project m team to eventually adopt the ridley mod and add the final touches.
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>the reason PMDT suddenly stopped was because they were afraid of getting sued for millions
>PMDT is now fearmongering and telling others not to mod their game because of legal repercussions

so is nintendo becoming the ultimate jew or is PMDT just dumb? or both?
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>>318724476
Is every local going to act like this? Why try to appease PMDT if they don't plan on ever updating the game again?
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>>318724476
I never had any issue with PM (I play all the vanilla smash games, mostly Melee/4) but now they can just fucking die and rot.
This is a level of faggotry unseen in the fucking smash community.
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>>318724476
IMMEDIATELY ESCORTED
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JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING ISO ALREADY I WANT TO PLAY AS KNUCKLES GODDAMNIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dW4UgE5mhY
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>>318724569
> "Shin Project M"
Anon that's some gay ass weeb shit.

As long as they're going full desecration just take the "M" part out of the project entirely, the PMDT kind of regretted it in the first place.
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>>318724476
what a gay
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>>318724625
it's seeming like PMDT are the ultimate cowards.
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>>318724476
this fucking guy
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>>318724507
Eh, I don't really agree. I played exclusively Isaac for a few hours and I get how he flows.
He has a mix of sword attacks (yes, different swings, like all sword characters) and psynergy. And I think the idea of his weird grab is if they get too close, jab usually knocks them right into grab range
And I'd be all for changing a few more sword swings to psynergy (maybe dtilt), but I like his kit right now
>>318724679
Yeah I know I'm not heading there anytime soon for a weekly
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>>318724662
we start our own local
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>>318724476
Jesus. A simple 'leaked builds will not be permitted in tourneys" would've been enough.
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>>318724539
So what does 3.61 change, other than the new costumes? Any balance changes worth noting?
What are the new costumes anyway?
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>>318724714
>gay ass weeb shit

The best non-furry characters in PM are anime. Nothing wrong with weebshit in this case.
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>>318724625
PMDT is literally the modding community's Hackurai as Chris Pranger explained about him before he got fired
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Someone please upload the 64 textures
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>>318724714
How about Super Super Smash Bros?
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>>318724476
This level of dicksucking makes me entirely ashamed of ever liking this mod.
This is downright shameful.
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new name:

cool fight guys
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>>318724831
I'm pretty sure most of them are already on Brawlvault.

>>318724846
Super DUPER Smash Bros.
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>>318724771
I think he's on a power trip from getting a security license
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>>318724476
lmao
he doesn't know pm was canceled right? the community has every right to play whatever version they want. and it happens to have 2 new functional characters, so of course the community is going to play it.
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>>318724476

The smash community is all faggots. Melee fags even more so.

I hope you all learn from this shit, and understand why the rest of the FGC will never take them seriously.
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>>318724476
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>>318724476
>can't even have friendlies with dev builds
what a load of horseshit
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>>318723586
You're doing everyone a favor by fixing and compiling everything into one place. Just don't want you to somehow be hooped into being legally responsible for it.

Just be careful about it.
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>ALL THIS FUCKING DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>318724967
Dont even compare the melee community with these faggots.
Smash has always been full of fags, but these unprecedented levels of faggotry. Nothing comes close to this garbage. Absolutely nothing.
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>>318724714
>Anon that's some gay ass weeb shit.
where do you think we are anon?
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>>318724967
>FGC will never take them seriously.
Why does it matter?
FGC is pretty much what manimefags are to weaboos, insecure neckbead manchildren with a superiority complex over other manchildren.
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someone in the MW fite me
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>>318724476
Autism
Takes
Charge
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I never had the opportunity to try Project M. I do have a Wii and Brawl, though I got pretty bored of it.
Should I even bother?
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>>318725085
Except ya forgot about that Melee Documentary
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>>318725191
i will
you host, gib code
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>>318725306
o ya that was pretty good
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>>318723651
What state you in? Go to ash@wit
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PMDT are such huge faggots

STOP MODDING MY MOD WITHOUT MY PERMISSION

Like you modded Brawl without Nintendo's permission?

They are acting like it's their own game
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>>318723796
Thanks sempai, finally got to work on one of my dolphin builds, 4.02. too bad the other one has a bit more pop, i'll see if i can do that one later.
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>>318725169

Because if you want to get game in, you gotta have people to play with, and the smash community is primarily made up of people like pic related or that angry ass gorilla warfare TO.
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haha
>Project M "devs" bitching PMfags, Wiiz, and the rest of the modding community are open sourcing their shit

eat crap, you fags are just as bad as Sakurai obsessing about his "envisioning"

>>318725306
documentary babbies are the fucking worse
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>>318725262
I think you should, it's fun even for casual play, shit like All-Star Versus and the fun shit you can do with the new movesets (Ivysaur in PM makes my dick hard) make the game so much better than Brawl. Try the official 3.6 build though, wait for Lyn &Knuckles to get fixed up by fans before trying them out in my opinion.
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>>318725306
The melee doc was just circlejerking, but it was extremely harmless circlejerking.
These are the PM exDevs trying to boycotting and harrassing people to cut all chances of further improving a mod.
These are modders boycotting their own mod.
Never in PC, or in any other platform I have seen this level of delusion.
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So is there any difference in gameplay or mechanics from these as far as already existing character patches or are they just for the new content?
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>>318725674
Link's grab has a bugfix, everything else is costumes and the unfinished characters.
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>>318725543
I just hope I can pull off some fun shennanigans with Snake and Samus.
That, and I hope it won't be such a pain in the ass to get the game modded. This'll be the first time I'm doing something like this.
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What happened to the ISO? I run PM on my Homebrew'd Wii off of WiiFlow, so I need an ISO to play. My disc slot is broken so I gotta boot everything off my external hard drive.
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>>318725815
You just need a 2GB SD card and no custom stages. It's easy as piss to get PM working.
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>>318725469
Hey, I go to ASH sometimes too
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>>318725506
If you'd ever gone to any fighting game local where Melee is involved you'd see that's not the case
But you've probably never been to any local, so that makes sense
Go get em, "FGC"
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Samus was looking great in the new build.
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>>318725095
I made that Crono a while ago never thought there was a finished moveset for it, is this mod any good?
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>>318725815
It's braindead easy, literally just need an SD card.
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May as well shill this here as well. Made a general for the rest of the smash games.

>>>/vg/124151892
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>>318724476

>"Hey guys, want to test out this new PM build, just for fun? It'd be cool to play with characters the devs made but never got a chance to finish."

>"WHAT THE FUCK? DEV BUILD? YOU'RE DQ'ED AND I'M ESCORTING YOU OFF THE PREMISES MYSELF. ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THAT SHIT."
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>>318725191
>>318725415
if you don't post in like 2 min i'm gonna head out
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>>318725874
Hey, Chris.
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>>318724476
What a faggot, holy shit.
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>>318726135
not the same dude but im SW if you wanna try

5b4af13f
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>>318726103
I hope a bunch of people show up with the dev build anyway. But I know that won't happen.
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>>318725571
hah
you obviously haven't seen minecraft's modding community
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>>318725874
chris he say that he couldn't figure it out
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>playing project meme instead of melee
Glad it's dead we don't need that trash breathing the same air as melee
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>>318725991
You can literally play as the new one now.
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>>318725991
She looks bored.
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am I supposed to be reading between the lines and realizing that nintendo are being gay fucks, or did they really pull a paranoia thing after not caring for as long as they did
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>>318726482
she fight aliens what u expect
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Project Meltdown will live on as a mutated abomination full of rampant weebshit and Big Guys like Ridley. The balance and overall quality will plummet like the stomach of a PM dev talking to a lawyer but in the end it'll be worth it for Knuckles the Enchilada and Fire Emblem Rep#32: Electric Boobsgaloo.
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>>318726601
But she gets to fight aliens in Smash, like Kirby.
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>>318725891
>>318726042
Shit, really?
Well, I got no excuse then. I'll hop to it.
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yo, didnt realize anyone wanted to play
host code
35658259
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>>318726482
>>318726397
Yeah I'm testing her out now thanks to your links in the other thread.
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>>318726670
see it's all old news to her now
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>>318726785
forgot pic
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>>318726764
consolefag here
is this for dolphin and what does it mean
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>>318726949
dolphin emulator man, its how we do netplay hosting
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>>318726949
you can play online (netplay) with other people
this is the code to connect to that guy
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>>318724476
>"leaked" version gets updated to be better than other version of PM
>people stop going to the guy's venue
>???

Also, I'm not sure why they would defend PMDT when they basically pulled a huge "fuck you." by halting all progress after teasing content like they've been doing. They should've released the update THEN said it would be the very last PM patch. Instead they completely remove their association from it, disband the dev team altogether, then complain when people spread the assets for the community.

You're not even a team anymore, PMDT. You may have worked together to make the content, but by disbanding, you've pretty much disassociated yourselves with all of it and left it in the wind. Don't complain when it gets leaked like it did.
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>>318727014
>>318727047
oh, thanks for the spoonfeeding
this kills the integrated graphics
at least I still have locals
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>>318726397
But I dun wanna play as blonde Sephiroth with bewbs and a gun
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I'm making my own Smash game. Screw you guys.
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MW, still want to fite
ea00f195
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http://smashboards.com/threads/an-appeal-to-the-pm-community-present-future.424986/page-2#comments

Holy shit that Fortress guy is one of the biggest faggots I have ever seen on that site.
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The iso I built won't go past the P:M URL screen. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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>>318721849
>any further distribution is putting anyone who has worked on PM at risk (including wiiztec)
Bullshit. Project M, and Smash Bros modding in general has been around for years and Nintendo hasn't lifted a finger beyond trying to keep it out of tournaments. There is no legal precedent for fan projects or hacks, of Nintendo games or any others, being hit with anything worse than a cease and desist. Even when a new PM release came out on the heels of Smash 4, Nintendo didn't bat an eye.
Regardless of whether or not development continues, regardless of whether it would be done by PMDT or by fans, the game will continue to be distributed and played. Nobody, not even on the (former) PMDT, is going around telling people to stop playing PM altogether to avoid legal trouble, and they have no trouble with PM 3.6 mirrors on Smashboards. So, they don't seem to feel any pressure or danger from what they've already done; yet, people outside the PMDT making the same kind of modifications they did on a smaller scale scares them?
The only way I can imagine such a thing being possible is if the PMDT and Nintendo reached some kind of agreement to cease development, but PMDT says no such thing happened.
What harm could making further additions possibly cause, especially if done by a group unrelated to the PMDT? If Nintendo can take legal action against the PMDT because Joe Shmoe from 4chan released a finished version of Lyn and Knuckles, then they sure as hell have just as good of a case, if not a better one, to take legal action against the current 3.6 release.
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>>318726172
that's not me you moron, my disk drive is workin, i just dont play actual wii games
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>>318723924
>>318724235
>>318724065
from the sound of it the next patch was going to add something that would trigger a copyright lawyer
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>>318727576

They're just power hungry, sempai. This is the inner circle shitting themselves when they realized they're not in control anymore.
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>>318727554

What inputs are you using? GCN Controller?
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>>318727554
had the same problem, maybe your projectm folder ha only the "pf" folder, i made that mistake.
oh, if youre running through usbloader or something check where it loads the codes from, maybe it gets stuck loading the codes from the build you had before
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>>318727932
Yeah. I've tried in both Dolphin and through WiiFlow on my Wii but they both get the same result.
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>>318722384
retards, no one likes smash just for the gameplay you need the characters too, and you can not just take a modded version of a game call it something else and sell it
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>>318721282
how the hell do i play these characters
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>>318721849
>Also SINe, tread carefully... any further distribution is putting anyone who has worked on PM at risk (including wiiztec)

How? Seriously. I totally get the concerns that mew2king outlined in his post, I am also making a fan project and it's a sword I am worried hangs over my head every day, but I fail to see how releasing the knuckles and lyn shit and sharing it is any more harmful then sharing Project M files in general.
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>>318727554
>any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Yeah.
You're building the ISO instead of just using a vastly better, and easier way of playing Project M. The SD card method.
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>>318729335
Doesn't it not work in PAL though?
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>>318728262
You press the A button, or the B button. Sometimes you can different things when you go in different directions.
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>>318723821
>>318723271
>>318723582
>>318723794
>>318723698
A good 60%-70% of the people in the comments are pointing out how hypocritical they are being, so far nobody has been banned or posts deleted.
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>Source code leaked
>Clone engine shit leaked
Great, time to wait for Project Mugen Mega Pack with Waluigi, Knuckles, Lyn, Goku, 2D Marisa, ASGORE, Pepsiman, Omeg Tom Hanks, and Cold Steel The Hedgehog all in one ISO.

In all seriousness, I am waiting for a mega pack that's 3.7 combined with all those cool mods for extra stages and costumes. Hopefully it's compiled into a mega pack by this weekend so I can invite bros to play when I'm off work.
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>>318729423
You can still use a base NTSC iso with the SD card files, you know that right?
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Hey SW netplay guy, that was fun. I'm gonna go now
u liek that ike taunt kill ;)))
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>>318729540
fucker i bodied you 90% of the time lol ggs
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>>318729498
>i can finally have a team smash of ASGORE and Pepsiman vs Alter Amiba and Ghetto Warmachine 420

what a time to be alive
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>>318729498
They never released source until now? Really?

I remember hacking at the .gcts back in 2011 to remove the DRM preventing the full roster. Would've thought they'd have released that shit a while ago.
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>>318729616
I won the games on my mains
But i also got 0-deathed without hitting you on some of my others
geegee bro, ty for the build link too
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>>318721849
>I feel like an idiot for ever standing up for, and trusting you in general. I feel personally betrayed but I don't hate you
Holy shit, if you're not lying, suck it up
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>>318721571

Actual anon here.

Code used in that manner is considered educational and thus fair use. SEGA v. Accolade protects them wholesale. A lawyer probably told them of the far-off risk of that, but there's legal risk in any business. There's no such thing as an action that is entirely riskless.

That's probably bullshit ass covering as to why they decided to stop focusing on project M and started focusing on their own stuff.
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>>318729869

Actual Legal anon.*

Fuck.
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>>318723186
Nintendo has literally n o t h i n g to lose by either ignoring or acknowledging PM's existence.

Shit like this exists on the PC all the time. Just look at X-Com Long War which might as well be the Project M of the new X-Com game. The devs publicly supported the mod, even giving help as to how to hack their own game and streaming it on their own channel.

Nintendo is highly stupid however and their responses to any mod, derivative content etc is to swing around their dick.
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It's funny how, if they just covered up all traces of the people behind project M, then it could still go on.
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>>318729498
Call me a fucking moron but frankly some of those sound fun
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SW NETPLAY COME GET BODIED OR COME BODY ME
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>>318730332
FORGOT CODE 66fa6613
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>>318730251
Its too late for that now. Nintendo's ninjas could still get them.
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>>318729869
Even then, the higher-up PMDT devs could've just distanced themselves from the project entirely or released it under a public license. If they released it under GPL Nintendo would be fucked because I could 100% guarantee the FSF would back the shit out of the devs.

However the fact that they left an apparently large amount of the dev team in the dark tells me the higher ups are a bunch of fuckin' assholes.
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>>318726885
My herofu restored to her former glory...
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>>318730475

Exactly.

They don't want their project tainted by the idea that "they left a free project for one with a bunch of money that might be at the end of the rainbow".

So instead, they were "forced" to.
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>>318730776
Why make a fuss to insist "we're totally doing this of our own free will, nobody's forcing our hand" then? Or is it reverse psychology?
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>>318730957
To try and not make it a big deal.

Of course they fucked up hard by fucking over other devs on the team + taking down the ENTIRE website in a day.
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How do i make an ISO out of this?
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>>318718520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWEd8yDEURc

>your face when this trailer
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>>318731567
ANIME SWORDSMAN
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>>318731725

He has the Scotsman as an assist trophy/final smash
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>>318721282
Did they at least release the data for the clone engine?
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>>318731725
>ANIME SWORDSMAN
What did he mean by this?
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Can i play this with a pirated iso on a wii?
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>>318730470
That's kinda my point. If they didn't care about the publicity of themselves rather than the project, they would be fine.
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>>318721282
So where do i put the files for new characters?
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>>318731506
ISO seems like its not likely to work.

Use this. https://mega.nz/#!JghgBAzJ!Zf2WAF_Ok1UqOIM1aX-aDHTPsQBy_DXm_Zy2aSBduIw

Just drop it in your wii folder on Dolphin or SD card.

If you wanna mess around in there, like say bring out sami. use winimage and open the raw file and rename everything sami to snake. and delete snake's file. If you want snake back, just extract your download again.

This thing also has netplay. Read the readme that comes with it.
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>>318721282
No one else is going to pick this up?
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>>318721849

Dear PMDevs,

Fuck you. Life sucks. Deal with it. Don't like it? Tough. Have your (You) and go back to your pity party. PM is back where it should be: in community hands.

P.S. Brawl- is still better than your shit.
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>>318721282
How do i use any of this? Like where do i put the shit? I am clueless on this.
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>>318732597
just plop it in your hackless sd card and over-write everything with the new stuff
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Which is the final build we're actually using say if you wanted to netplay.
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>>318725991
It's an improvement over the other one, but there are better ZSS mods.
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>>318732597
I don't know if the fan fix build will just work on its own, but it definitely works if you just copy and replace all the folders and files over the top of the actual 3.6 release.
Also it maybe only works on the homebrew version? I could be wrong though.
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Brawl Minus will save us right?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v95nf/in_response_to_strong_bad_and_the_old_pmdt_as/


Project Evolution is coming.
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>>318733236
i tried just copying the 3.61 contents but i don't have any of the new costumes
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>>318733215
proof
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>>318732083
It's not working for me. It just loads up Brawl.
I put the files in the right folders so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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>>318733373

Open up Brawl with the SD Card in, go to Stage Builder in the Vault
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>>318721282
Can't they realease the costumes and Sami's model (which was made years before) as stand alone hacks?
I mean SJS ZSS is already in the vault, and they don't need to put a "THIS HACK ORIGINALLY BELONGED IN PROJECT M" banner.
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>>318727576
I agree with you for the most part. If I had it my way I'd of pushed to just release 4.0 and then stop but I'm just a lowly pmdev without much influence.

What we were doing was illegal, we were misrepresenting their brands and were confusing the market. Nintendo could of come after us anytime they wanted and everyone would have been fucked. The only thing stopping them was they didn't care, but we apparently received information that they started caring so we stopped.

It wouldn't even of been about the money or anything they probably would of just wanted to make an example out us to try and get everyone to stop fucking around with their shit.

Everyone should be safe now since the main website shut down but if a new version of PM keeps getting ditrubuted and gains attention, there's still nothing stopping them from coming after the ones responsible. They hold every right to. Please continue doing what you love but just be careful.

I'm still only slightly less in the dark than all of you but the threat must have been real enough for them to decide to just shut everything down so suddenly without even releasing the Halloween patch.
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>>318729335
>vastly better
>Slower load times
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>>318733569
Not sure if that's supposed to work on Dolphin but I already tried that.
My dolphin didn't have a Wii folder though, I had to make one myself. Is there supposed to be anything else in there that I'm missing?
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>>318733359
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207374
Just admit you want to jack off, anon.
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>>318733320
This sounds pretty awful.
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>>318726885
where to get ZSS?
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