IPS N3DSXL master race.
TN shitskins not allowed, email Nintendo asking for a refund, they sold you an objectively inferior product.
fucking disgusting
NINTENDO RANDOM BUILD QUALITY
This is a worse situation than PissGate back on the DS Lite, the difference in screen quality is huge and there's only a very rare chance of getting an IPS screen.
I can't tell which one I have
>buy myself a n3dsxl over black friday
>open it up
>can instantly tell it's a TN
>stuck with this shit
the colors are so washed out it's ridiculous
how can nintendo legally do this? a better quality screen was the selling point of the new one and only a small batch have them?
how do i know which one i have
>>318567392
look at the top screen from an angle, if it washes out, it's a TN, if it stays beautiful and crisp, it's an IPS
also the colors are more washed out and the 3d effect is also much worse
>>318567558
>>318567392
Like so, make sure you try it with the black theme
Can you actually do anything about it if you get the shit screen?
I haven't gotten a n3DS yet because I haven't seen a game I want that requires it.
>>318567896
>BETTER COLORS
>BETTER FUCKING COLORS
LOOK HERE MEN, OUR FIRST TN SHITSKIN OF THE NIGHT
ENJOY YOUR DENIAL AND INFERIOR CONSOLE
>>318567703
Fug, mine looks like Type B.
TN usually have less latency and the colors are a tad more realistic than that of an IPS, which exaggerates them.
I would be more upset if I had a LCD Vita.
>>318568309
Post a pic of both the top and bottom screen from an angle in the dark and I can tell for you
>>318566289
>DX
fuck off to gaia
>>318568183
they both look like shit
>>318566289
if i buy a new 3ds from a store right now what are the odds of getting an IPS screen?
>>318567337
Bigger screen and better 3d effect were what was advertised, not better screen.
>>318568741
About 10%
>>318568758
You need good viewing angles to get the more stable 3D effect, if you knew jack shit about anything you'd use some fucking common sense. No use having headtracking if you can't see the screen because it's too washed out to see anything like the goddamn opposite of the original GBA
I feel like this was intentionally done to promote even more eBay scalping. That's what happened with launch Wiis and Amiibos, two of Nintendo's most successful products in recent history.
>>318568913
try looking directly at the screen instead of being a retard that looks at their games at a 90 degree angle
>>318568524
Its not looking good doc.
this an issue for the old 3DS XL?
did they ever give regular n3dses IPS screens or is it still all TN?
>>318568758
>>318568913
>>318569296
Even with an IPS screen the 3D in the N3DS XL is still complete garbage. Sure, the headtracking lets you look at it from different angles without it turning into an unusable mess, but the cross-talk is still so bad that it's just plain ugly as a result and there's no upside to using it.
How to get IPS?
I was thinking ebay, but they could lie and send me a TN one.
>>318569394
It's a TN my friend, and a bad one at that.
Sorry ;;
>>318568480
>latency
Oh no, not a 3ms difference! This completely ruins my gaming experience!
>more realistic
As we all know from video games, realism is a marketing word for ugly as shit.
Are my potatoes baked?
>>318569740
Then you ask for a refund and if they don't give it, you get ebay themselves involved, because the item doesn't match the product description and that's a big no no for ebay sellers.
>>318570807
Although I looked, and it seems people are charging 100 extra dollars for IPS screens.
The IPS is better, but I'm not sure it's 100 dollars better.
>>318570804
Zoom out a bit senpai
>>318570351
It looks way worse on camera then it does in person at least.
>>318571049
Gimme a moment, will do
how can this even be legal
its like if iphone decided to make half of their screens non "retina display" or whatever bullshit buzzword they use and simply not tell anyone about it.
shouldnt there be a lawsuit for this to set precedent and make it so tech companies dont get away with bullshit like this
>>318571052
On my IPS the area transitions don't just look like huge black walls, see how it just goes straight to black rather than fading in? It's because of the terrible contrast ratio of TN displays.
>>318571425
Nintendo never advertised the IPS display though. Apple mentions retina display every .5 seconds.
I'm not saying it's okay by any means, this is bullshit, but that's why there's not been a lawsuit.
USE THIS TO TEST IF YOU HAVE IPS OR TN.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
IPS Screens will have the first 8 or so blocks appear indistinguishable from the background on the top screen. TN Screens will have only the first 3 or so blocks indistinguishable from the background.
Another way to quickly tell with this website is just if the blacks looks different from Top Screen to Bottom Screen. If they're different, congrats, you didn't get ripped off. If they're the same, you got fucked with a TN Screen.
OP, put this fucking website in your first post from now on, retard.
>bought monster hunter n3ds when it came out
>apparently its IPS
ok then
All of the Happy Home Designer New 3DS's are IPS.
Seems like the XL is the bad choice.
Gimme faceplates or give me death.
>>318571669
fuck off ya cunt why don't you make the thread next time i have to look after 5 kids i'm too busy
IPS is objetively good, but no one looks at their DS from such extreme angles. Most people will probably never notice the difference.
>>318571798
>not wanting a sleek black device
>putting fisher price plastic manchild shit all over your brand new console
did you also put spongebob stickers all over your gamecube like the weird fat kid from next door?
>>318571868
Cause I don't fucking give a shit, I got 3 IPS Screns and they are golden.
So, pic is from my phone. Are my potatoes mashed?
>>318572194
>>318572130
>only 3
i usually own about 5 in circulation at a time, i sell them on eBay then buy new ones in bulk, i sell my TNs for new at the usual price but my IPS <9.2 ones go for $450-500
>>318572297
>>318572067
>sleek
>black
Nice try.
the video of the unit in the announcement clearly has an IPS screen throughout
my vita doesn't have this problem.
>>318572194
ips
>>318572581
No, it clearly has a simulated screen that looks nothing like any LCD ever.
>>318572709
In person, and not through the lens of my shitty phone camera, I definitely think it looks more like the ips in this [hurr hurr] gaf thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=156553933&postcount=286
>>318572608
>try to open image
>get Aw, Snap message
What the fuck have you done?
>>318568480
>and the colors are a tad more realistic than that of an IPS
Yep that's why photographers and editors only use TN panels.
>>318572709
looks like a low quality ips or a very goood TN
>>318572067
I actually am swapping out the mobo with a Euro-peean black console in a few weeks. And no, I never put stickers on anything. I guess you just don't like glow in the dark boo's
>oh no how will i take screenshots now
lmao faggots
>mfw IPS
Feels good man.
>>318573305
i wish I could be cute enough to have a little dangley thing off my 3ds
>>318572581
That's a simulated screen showing the face tracking.
>>318573305
Just fuckin' with ya, that does look nice.
I just need the XL because I have giant hands
I couldn't use my old aqua blue because I'd get cramp after 20 minutes of play
Close up, in case that helps with clarification.
What's my status, ƒam?
>tfw ips mh4u n3dsxl
git gud shitters
>>318573636
TN because the touch screen and top screen are equally washed out
>>318569725
I left the 3D on for almost every single game I played on my launch 3DS, loved it and thought it looked pretty great. I can't fucking stand looking at the N3DSXL screen in 3D mode, it's horrific.
Gimme the news doc
I remember when I bought my DS lite and found myself a big screen quality difference between mine and a DS lite of a friend.
When I was observing the games, it looked like my characters when moving, generated small traces during their animation, as if the vsync was turned off.
Some games with transparency effects, the same was with small scanlines.
Then I found out there was a huge difference between the quality of the screens. My DS lite have one of the worst screens, washed colors, was slow in updating.
>>318573968
Congratulations, it's a baby IPS!
I'm so glad I bought mine early and got a good screen.
>>318573604
Wow is this game coming out for the n64?
Why is this topic coming up again now when the N3DS has been out since the start of the year?
>>318574112
It's a TN, idiot.
>>318574146
>tfw I bought mine in April and still got an IPS
>>318574154
>>318574179
Because lots of people have bought them since then?
The /v/eredict?
>>318574259
Can't you give him false hope, for one more day?
>>318574373
the floating boy is cute
>>318574373
Now THAT'S an IPS.
>>318574259
>>318574390
>tfw two of them
i'm about to buy one, how do i know which one i'll get?
>>318574624
Forgot image
Daily reminder that literally not one single person has ever taken apart two N3DS units to find two different screens.
That's why you get pics that not everyone can agree on, pics of 3DSes that meet this standard >>318571669 but still have washed-out garbage viewing angles, or that don't meet the standard but have decent viewing angles. Nintendo's quality control is pure shit but there's no physical evidence to support this IPS/TN meme. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong tho
Give it to me straight, doc.
>>318574976
>>318574976
TN shit.
>>318574742
You don't. That's part of the problem.
>>318566912
>PissGate
I lolled hard
>>318574976
TN, return to store.
>>318574827
At the very least, screens are not calibrated properly in the factory and there's no way to fix it. Nintendo are fucking horrible these days in all aspects.
Who else lucked into an IPS here
suck my dick, unlucky peasants
>>318574373
Build wall
So, do these consoles have a specific pin to tell which is which?
What is this?
>>318575204
Show me your dick
Why should the average consumer care? If you can't convince Joe Fucktard to care about the Nintendo he bought for Joe Fucktard Jr. then the same shit is gonna happen with the NX and any revision the N3DS gets.
Or youll get only TN
>>318567221
Tilt the screen at an angle
if the colors stay consistent and don't wash out you have a superior IPS N3DS
If it washes out and has a yellowish tint at normal viewing angles you have a literally worthless unusable piece of trash and should immediately refund it. Don't pawn that piece of shit off on other people, that's a dick move.
I have an IPS but my camera makes it look like a TN. It's hard to tell with out side by side comparison, so I wouldn't bother posting photos.
>>318574827
Nah ah sorry. I actually did the Monhun test independently like >>318568183 is showing. Did it with my old 3DS XL and the N3DSXL I bought months ago (which was luckily IPS). There is a huge difference between the TN panels on the old models and the IPS screens.
If you have two systems to compare, the difference is obvious.
Whether your 3DS is IPS or TN at the end of the day it's a 240p display and nothing will get rid of the hideous aliasing in every 3D game.
Mine's TN, but it's barely noticeable.
>>318567719
If you just bought it, refund it.
The thing is that you cannot tell whether you are getting the real N3DS or cheap chinese knockoff quality N3DS until you open it. Unless you absolutely want to play Xenoblade Chronicles 3D or Binding of Isaac or just can't deal with the sub 30 fps in MH4U while online, don't get a N3DS.
>>318573804
So then was >>318571669 full of shit? It met the standard he claimed. Could my Note 3 have taken a bad pic?
can I join the club
can someone fill me in on this? so initially shipments of N3DS had ips displays but they changed them to tn?
>>318575718
Yes. Sexy as fuck. Well done anon.
>>318575813
No, it's been pretty random from the get go.
![MxBaFDO[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LPgMJn6.jpg "MxBaFDO[1].jpg")
>>318575718
Come away from the TN peasents, friend.
>>318575896
that's weird
>>318575813
Completely random. Just get one from a store with a good return policy.
i'm new to all this IPS and tn shit
what the fuck?
did nintendo do this to cut costs?
why would they release a product of such inconsistent quality?
>>318575718
>Not playing superior Bravely Default For the Sequel.
>tfw want an XL for the size but the smaller one has the SNES colored buttons
>>318573319
I wish Gateway had this kind of functionality
I could just switch to some flavor of CFW but I don't want to set everything up again and I'm pretty sure any emunand shit like Mii Plaza doesn't carry over
So are all the Happy Home designer bundled New 3DSs IPS?mine is in the mail and I'm anxious now that it may have TN screens
>>318575624
Yeah but IPS at least gives the horrible image decent colors. If you've got a TN panel you've got a disgusting picture with no redeeming qualities.
>>318575979
Because the average consumer will never notice or even care.
>>318576019
BootNTR m8
I wish the archive were still up, because I've lost count of how many times you've posted this.
>>318575624
This. Nintendo fucked up from the get go and no amount of IPS can save this piece of shit handheld.
Dammit Nintendo, why
So I have a N3DS. I got it on Australian launch.
Is it IPS?
Also.
Getting a first print Zelda MM LE N3DSXL.
What are the chances it's IPS?
>>318575984
Bravely Default is the western release of BD:FtS
Help
>>318576054
My MH XL is TN, so not every special edition is IPS.
>>318575979
>why would they release a product of such inconsistent quality?
That's Nintendo in a nutshell. The only quality they've ever done consistently for hardware is shit quality. GC and Wiis had tons of disc read problems they never bothered to fix. N64s had power brick issues. SNES and NES had cartridge reading issues.
>>318576185
Post pictures.
>>318576195
Sorry that's a TN
>>318576186
With the Censorship and other things taken out.
>>318576084
it still seems like a really shitty and shady thing to do
>>318575979
Not defending Nintendo but game companies have been downgrading hardware to cut costs since at least the Genesis.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/t2ViX6u.png "latest[1].png")
>>318576174
>>318576195
Damn, its the majora one too.
>>318576010
I know this pain. I'm just going to get a customized vinyl skin to take my mine off it
>>318576174
put the black theme on and take another photo, that looks like it might be IPS
>>318576323
well are they still releasing the ones with the IPS screens?
>>318566289
Do regular 3DSs have this too?
>>318576148
>legit carts only
nah m8
I made all of my legit carts into .cias because I don't like fiddling with 20+ carts while I'm on the go
also, wouldn't be able to play MHX with the english patch
>>318576314
It is, but as >>318576323 says, cheap hardware is kinda a universal thing, it's not just Nintendo.
Remember all those red ring 360s?
![20151201_204631[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tMSkrmw.jpg "20151201_204631[1].jpg")
P-Please doc
>tfw trying to find a way to test this better with stock apps/no internet connection in fear of updating firmware
all I know is the bottom touch screen seems to wash out white waay faster than the top when tilt. did I lose the lottery?
>>318576426
>Remember all those red ring 360s?
Those were caused by Europe being retarded and banning lead solder in late 2004. You can thank the EU for that.
>>318576445
Signs point to yes
neither screen should show any washing out
>>318572067
I just want the form factor and smaller screens. I actually really hate using special edition or customized consoles. Unfortunately, I have to FUCKING IMPORT plain white faceplates.
>>318576437
Looks IPS to me, take a better photo at more of an angel.
>>318576174
TN garbage
>>318576437
Could be IPS - Take a new pic; Dark room, black theme
If your screen has scanlines like a shitty emulator filter, it's an IPS. If it looks like an old eMachines LCD panel, it's a TN.
>>318576245
p-pls senpai
my majora's mask n3dsxl is fine but my hyrule one is washed out
good thing majora's is my main 3ds
>>318576653
It's terminal.
what the fuck is the point of this
as far as I can tell the only advantage one has over the over is if you stare down the side of the console instead of using it as it was fucking intended you get slightly less washed out colors
>>318576364
That is the black theme
>>318576653
I'm sorry anon, it's TN, and it's inoperable.
>>318575289
Plz help /v/
If you're asking in this thread about which screen you have, does it even matter?
You clearly aren't dissatisfied with your purchase if you can't even tell which screen you have by looking at it.
>>318576748
oh boy then that's a TN sir
Is my ice cream melted /v/?
how does it look?
>>318571798
>All of the Happy Home Designer New 3DS's are IPS.
nope;_;
and yours doesn't even look like an IPS, black is too light
>>318576748
TN
This is IPS
>>318575718
>>318576748
>That is the black theme
REKT
>>318576792
take a picture of your main menu at the same angle
>>318576861
Absolutely TN
>that bottom screen
I'd feel like shit even owning this
>>318576902
TN, now fuck outta this thread, this is for the IPS gang only
>>318576437
le millenom girl
>>318576746
>what the fuck is the point of this
TN panels have much worse colors than IPS panels, at all angles. Sideways just makes it much more noticeable without a comparison console next to it. TN panels are literally garbage that nobody uses anymore but Nintendo. Not even the PSVita 2000's screen is a TN panel and that thing was made because the Vita bleeds money. Nintendo are shit.
>>318576816
We have an inferior product. How am I suppose to enjoy my N3DS from now on. Please kill me now.
>>318576748
>That is the black theme
my sides
oh nintendo
>>318576961
Sheeit, at least it only cost me 100 dollars thanks to K-Mart
what's the best brightness setting for the tn test?
>>318575049
>>318575071
>>318575161
Fuck, did I really get keked by Nintendo?
I bought this one in February. How can I legitimately demand a new one at the store if this one doesn't have any faults, but is of lower build quality? Do they accept refunds like that? Also, it's not like they will let me take out a million 3ds and inspect each screen.
Inconsistent image quality seems like a trend among video games in general.
>>318577163
Too late :^)
>>318577163
No refunds unless it's part of the stores policy.
Enjoy your useless brick.
![20151201_205800[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uTBEeRA.jpg "20151201_205800[1].jpg")
>>318576841
>>318576616
Better pic
>>318577163
You just live with it
>>318577293
That's definitely a TN panel.
>>318577163
TN
Look how white it is on the bottom middle right photo
>>318577293
It's TN.
Give up. It's over.
>IPS on top of a fucking 240p display
can you say placebo?
>>318577249
Is that with the same video output? It almost looks like the difference between Composite and S-Video or D-SUB
>>318577293
IPS don't get trolled anon
>>318576952
This better?
I thin the easiest way to know if it's IPS or TN is to see if the internet icon totally changes of color when you watch it from the side. like here >>318567703
Honesty cant tell what kind of screen I have.
So doc... Do i have cancer?
>>318577518
We have a winner!
Enjoy your IPS!
Is it possible that one of the screens be Ips and the other tn? I swear my top screen looks nice and sharp while the bottom one looks slightly washed.
>>318573636
You ƒucked ƒam, baka desu.
>>318576902
man, isn't it obvious already what is TN already with all the other TN screens in the thread?just accept it man. I'm with you.
>>318577518
Welcome to the big dawgs. Have a seat, pal.
>>318577416
The snes had different video encoders, one of them even had component/pbpr capabilities.
So what can I do to get the IPS one? I buy the 3ds and hope for the best?
>>318577621
Yes, any IPS top screen will have a TN bottom screen. Apparently the touch screens can't be IPS
>>318577621
That is the only way to have an ips
guess i'll check, i really don't see the wash out people are talking about on really either screen so i assume it's a TN.
H-h-ow bad is this
My screen doesn't change color at all if I rotate it from the right side toward me, but if I rotate it the other way the blacks turn a bit more grey. What's the deal with that?
>>318577416
According to the website all are RGB.
>>318577672
Pretty much
>>318577214
Thanks.
>>318577753
IPS for sure friend
I'm the guy with the IPS Hyrule Edition 3DS.
Feels euphoric.
>>318577753
Looks promising, switch to the title screen black theme
>>318577639
Wait, hold on. I just typed t b h s m h and it turned it to baka desu.
Test:
desu baka
>>318577374
>>318577307
>>318577285
>>318577290
Weird, you niggas ITT told me it was IPS yesterday. Color on the lower most right image also seems really vibrant and not washed out. I took pictures at an extreme angle and in the dark to be sure, but it's kinda different in person. Oh well, I guess I'll learn to live with it.
>>318577790
1Chip master race
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
IPS screens can only tell the difference past square 8 irrc.
TN screens can see it earlier, but it's not better because the screens are horribly calibrated so you won't have a proper gradient at all.
>>318577893
>Not CFW
Almost master race.
What's the news doc?
>oh no my screens look washed out from an angle!!
You're supposed to look directly at the screens. It's a handheld and you can easily adjust the position. So what's the problem?
>>318578024
the 1chip had some incompatibility problems with some games.
how is it family
Looks like I'm good.
>>318578119
You already know
>people are uploading photos "how does it look?" when it's obviously washed out
>there are photos of what an IPS screen should look like
can't you judge for yourself? the difference is huge.
>>318578000
just tilt your screen in the main menu at an extreme angle, it's very apparent for a TN display because the squares in the background will just blur into a flat white with everything else.
So I have a TN does the color look any different head-on or do the colors only fuck up at angles?
>>318566289
Loaded up Link's Awakening myself to compare it to your image, definitely looks like the one on the left. Bullet dodged.
>>318577409
What do the colors on IPS panels have anything to do with resolution?
N3DS XL IPS on Cakes CFW.
Master Race.
Tell me Senpai, because I honestly can' tell-
Grainy as fuck photo because my camera is shit
>>318578126
That's just the best way to tell when you can't side by side them. The IPS screens have better color when looked at head-on too.
>>318578203
IPS
welcome to the big dick club
>>318577916
alright, here it is.
>>318578119
Buddy, the squares in your background seem to be missing.
And it looks like you're even suffering from piss-screen calibration. Look at the difference between your top and bottom screen.
>>318578285
I think you're good
>>318578410
KEK
>>318578410
I-I'm sorry anon.
>>318578256
Contrast is better on IPS displays because of the darker blacks. The blacks in TN screens looks faded like a pussy playing horror games on maximum brightness.
>>318578208
Good at having a TN, maybe
>>318578285
Hard to tell since your pic quality is awful, but I'm leaning towards IPS.
>>318578048
>http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
to make sure and see which black squares you can see
everything you fucking idiot.
>>318578348
It's a marginal difference. If you need help from people on the internet to tell you wether or not the colors on your screens is washed out it's irrelevant.
I'm curious why N manufactures the same system with different hardware.
well I'm apparently to stupid to figure it out, what's the prognosis senpai?
>>318578410
that is so obviously TN
you see how washed out it is, but you can't help your denial so you post it anyways. pretty much everyone in this thread
>>318578142
Then how does one definitively determine a master race; not everything can have pros and cons
>>318578819
It's Terminal
>>318578782
>If you need help from people on the internet to tell you wether or not the colors on your screens is washed out it's irrelevant.
More like they don't know how IPS looks in the first place
They could have stayed blissfully ignorant forever, but OP had to post this thread and ruin their fun.
>>318578819
Sorry, anon
sold my < 9.2 IPS N3DSXL for $600 on ebay lol
>>318578825
not really denial, if you looked at my original post i assumed it was a TN as i couldn't see a difference.
until the darker blacks was mentioned
Hows it look doc, is it mashed?
>>318578919
fug, its a fucking majora's mask console, you'd think that nintendo would at least put the ips screen in special edition consoles.
Is my salt shaken?
>>318578819
It's bad enough you got a TN, you also got a PISS-SCREEN
notice how other TN screens in the thread don't have that yellow screwed-up screen calibration.
![20151201_201852[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fyN4Tml.jpg "20151201_201852[1].jpg")
Read 'em and weep. I ain't going through the pain of trying to get CHMM to work so I can get my Squid Sisters theme back just to have some faggots judge me.
compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves
>have been scared about my model being TN for a while now
>see the examples of TN in this thread using the black theme
>do the same
>not even close to the TN "black" in some anons pics
Thank fuck for this thread. Although it sucks for the anons who have TN, I really wouldn't worry about it too much anyway, when are you ever going to be playing at the angle that fucks the picture anyway?
