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Prove that their refusal to release the game outside of Japan is a marketing ploy.
Criticism of "sexism" is at an all time high. Criticism of women's "representation" in video games is more prominent than ever. Criticism of of "objectification" is of the charts. And it's all escalated to new heights withing the last 2-3 years. Isn't the reason enough to be wary from releasing a game such as this in the west?
So far the most popular narrative, is that Koei is fabricating a reason for why they refuse to release the game in the west, as a way to get the community to market the game through outrage against a common enemy. I find this narrative to be hilariously self-unaware. As they don't realize that they're fabricating a loaded accusation, with NO evidence.
So prove it. Prove that it's all a marketing ploy.
>>318394321
nice try.
Nobody has any proof. You see, the ones that saying it's a marketing ploy are also the whines that keep bitching about muh misogyny. Just look at NeoFag. Exact same posters who say it's a marketing ploy that also post in Anita threads shilling her videos.
>>318394525
What do you mean?
Why won't you just LISTEN and BELIEVE you shitlord
Its not a marketing ploy because its true, releasing this game here will spark more shit about women being sexualized or some shit.
>implying I'd waste money on this schlock with or without the tits
>>318394321
DOA dev supports censorship himself, last year he himself censored multiple fan-made outfits for DOA.
The only sources we have more or less say that KT doesn't want to release this in the west to avoid all the sexism bitching. That's what all the sources say. When NeoFag or Cúck Sterling is trying to dismiss all that through another, completely unfounded reason, then they're only doing it to defend their fat asses.
>>318394321
>Prove that their refusal to release the game outside of Japan is a marketing ploy.
It is
Dead or Alive is relatively obscure.
There hasn't been a single high budget game that I know of that has been DENIED existence for all I know of.
The most they have done is get a game off the shelves of A STORE from A COUNTRY
They're also lazy and or greedy so they don't want to risk losing money on a niche
Now you prove to me how "SJWs" aren't /v/'s version of DA JUUS
>>318394321
yep
So who is your favorite DOA girl?
>>318395776
>It is
You are confusing a statement with evidence. As expected from a NeoFagger.
>>318395776
But dats wrong
The ideals of a game like this is a joke game. A joke on sexuality and perversion, but who cares?
What radicals seem to not understand is that if you don't like something, don't give it attention. Don't hate it, don't play it, don't even mention it.
Being an person who believes in true equality, I don't think "sexy" games objectify anything. The only reason people think that is because we're tied to earth by old words and ideals. Not everyone thinks women as objects, and objectify isn't a term just used for women. Humans objectify everything, because it goes into how we view things as objects associated to other objects. The movies industry isn't just objectifying women, but all things. Every character in a movie falls into a trope, yet the trope isn't always correct 100% in all cases of humanity.
tl;dr ignore video games you hate and go take action on equality instead of writing articles and posts on social media.
>>318395776
>Now you prove to me how "SJWs" aren't /v/'s version of DA JUUS
No. Because Koei Tecmo didn't blame anything on SJWs. That was Play Asia. KT blamed the the discussion of women in video games. Which is a topic that is very hot right now. You can see this being discussed from various sources. One of which, just so happens to be Anita. She's done a lot to make the issue very large. As well as many other people to make it their work to incite this kind of discussion. And the media that likes to participate.
Essentially, the release of the game, will make it a target like it's never been before. Where it's previous releases already saw a bit of criticism regarding how it portrays women. DOAX3 would get many times more flack.
Any fan of DOAX, or just weeb schlock, already knows, or is willing to import. That being said, it is likely that those who are already a fan of these kinds of games, will buy DOAX3, regardless of it's region of release. Which means, that KT can still sell their game to their fans overseas, while *avoiding* controversy. Or at least, they might have thought that they could avoid controversy. Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way. But regardless, it would be in their best interests not to get involved in the topic of SJWs, because of imaging reasons. It would poison their image, if they're always the game that's being talked about disparagingly.
>>318395776
>SJW
>Don't exist
Have you been paying attention to what's happening all over western universities?
>>318395776
>Dead or Alive is relatively obscure.
>>318394321
Of course it's a marketing ploy. Xseed releases their game without begging for sympathy and shekels and crying about SJW. They ignore them and sell their game. KT is scared it will flop and made up drama about SJW when they were completely ignoring the game.
The wrost that would happen is some articles online but this series has always had that. It's always been a joke.
>>318397249
Why do SJWs get so mad when talking about DoA? Even the ones that pretend they're not offended can't stop saying "uh but it's really bad anyways". It just makes you look insecure and biased.
>>318394321
It wasn't a marketing ploy at the start but since everyone was making a big deal about it they just went with the flow of things.
>>318397249
Why would they be scared of their game flopping? They've already spent the money making an English version. Why not just sell it overseas? It's not like the previous games were major hits anyway.
They didn't even make a big stink about it. They said plainly that it wouldn't be released in the west. And then when they were asked why, they gave a short engrish statement for their reasoning.
It really stinks of conspiratorial paranoia, when you take such a small statement, and give it all of this weight and meaning.
>>318397482
I wouldn't know since I don't talk to them.
>>318397681
What are you talking about? How did they go "with the flow"?
>>318397750
>Why would they be scared of their game flopping?
Why wouldn't they? It's much better marketing this way as well. Even if it doesn't sell gangbusters the fabricated controversy should sell more copies than it would without it.
>>318398067
>Why wouldn't they?
No. Why would they. Answer that question.
>It's much better marketing this way as well.
That assumes the comment was calculated. When anyone using common sense would see how responding to a question on the facebook page isn't some masterminded calculated marketing scheme.
You're failing to provide any proof. You're just insisting harder, without anything to back you up.
>>318398067
>It's much better to fabricate controversy in a market where you won't even sell the game
Alright NeoFag
These games aren't even good to begin with. Any Illusion game would provide better faps
Japanese are plain retarded when it's about marketing and they don't give a fuck about the west. They don't care if something sells or doesn't in the west, only Japanese sales matter for them.
>>318398450
Riiiiight. Just like all those twitch whores should stop showing their cleavage on twitch, and just become real cam whores.
>>318398823
This is what everyone said last gen and they ended up making dudebro games that flopped both in Japan and in the West. So they're going to stick to Japan. Not everything revolves around America.
>>318398942
But these are "porn" fapbait games which are normally not meant to leave Japan. Japanese are pussies, they are afraid about anyone bitching about sexism.
>>318399197
That's western devs.
>>318398823
Illusion models need serious work.
I don't know, but I like the women!
March can't come soon enough.
>>318394321
Prove to me that you faggots would buy such a garbage "game" for any reason other than being a cancerous permavirgin weeaboo who shits up the video game industry because he can't go five seconds without jerking off.
>>318401094
They have no other reason to buy this """""game""""" because it's not very good.
>>318401094
>You're cancer for liking games about pretty girls, for whatever reason.
>>318401094
Do you think this way about people who read Sports Illustrated?
>>318401457
>implying anyone reads magazines anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPzcbOV8pI
U mad bros?
>>318401539
>implying I wasn't in past tense
>>318401094
>shit up the industry
By buying games? Last time I checked, buying games = supporting the industry.
Nice bait. 8/10 - IGN.
>>318401094
What makes it ""game""? How is it less of a game than, say, Battlefield? And how does it ruin the video game industry?
>SJWs bitch about titties in vidya
>biggest company that makes titty vidya says "Fine, we won't localize this for the western audience."
>SJWs backpedal, saying they don't REALLY want titties to go away from vidya, and start spewing bullshit about how it's all a "marketing ploy."
SJWs are hilarious. They have absolutely no clue what they want, what they're trying to do, or how to work together. They just sit in their echo chambers bitching until someone calls their bluff, then get all flustered that someone actually paid attention to their stupid ramblings that they didn't actually mean.
>>318401094
I wasn't going to buy a copy, but you convinced me. Here's hoping the industry crashes and burns!
>>318395049
They are trying to gaslight Tecmo by pretending they haven't been attacking Japanese games over sexy girls the last few years. Final Fantasy got attacked, Suda got attacked, Dragons Crown got attacked, Bayonetta got attacked, W101 got attacked, Street Fighter, shit even DoA5 got attacked, and now tons of localizations are getting censored thanks to SJW localizers like 8-4. We see what happens, we have the articles, I don't know how they expect this gas lighting to work.
>>318402148
As far as Japanese games go, SJWism is a ploy by localizers so they can charge more for the localization.
A company saying "well, because of SJWs, we're not gonna localize this." is BAD for SJWs, because now they don't get paid to unnecessarily censor games.
This is why they're backpedaling and trying to claim it's a marketing ploy. Because if more companies do this, they'll be out of their jobs, and their gravy train will be over.
>>318402148
Yep. Enter any fucking thread on NeoFag about FFXV and they're all bitching about Cindy. Non-stop, that's literally all they bitch about. Enter any MGS thread and it's always the same Quiet shitposting.
And then, they suddenly pretended none of that shit ever happened and they are total best bros with Japs. They hate Japan. Their posters and mods have stated so numerous times. And now they're trying to lure everyone that they aren't.
>>318402363
but we westerners are just better and more expensive workers. we aren't cheap like the gooks and chinks that sell their kids for a penny
People who think DoA criticism is a product of the times haven't been around for too long. It's as old as the series itself.
>>318402085
Did SJW actually bitch about the game?
And the Playasia thing is 100% a marketing stunt.
I don't care either way this shit pissed me right off.mostly because now I have to buy a fucking ps4
>>318403093
This, but the criticism was never used as a reason to not bring a game over. When DOA5 got criticised, they shrugged it off and said it's what the fans wanted.
>>318394321
It's clearly to get attention for the game but who cares? They're doing the right thing. They're getting attention for their product and they're standing up for what's right; that makes people like them, surprise.
It's almost like if you stand up for freedom and shit on idiots who want to take your freedom away, people will prefer you over the shitties.
If the game sold like shit in Japan and had bad reception they might not want to release it to "save face".
>>318404398
>It's clearly to get attention
Prove it.
>>318404398
>It's clearly to get attention
By play-asia only you faggot.
>they're standing up for what's right
By not releasing the game you faggot?
>that makes people like them
Only SJWs would like that.
>>318404398
>>318404398
>It's clearly to get attention for the game but who cares? They're doing the right thing. They're getting attention for their product and they're standing up for what's right; that makes people like them, surprise.
This. Why is pandering to your audience suddenly a bad thing? The only person it doesn't benefit is the one who wasn't going to buy the game in the first place.
>>318404786
>The only person it doesn't benefit is the one who wasn't going to buy the game in the first place.
Nowadays, we just call them "SJWs" for short.
>>318395776
>ask for proof
>asspull a ton of unfounded assumptions and call it a day
>NOW PROVE ME THIS OTHER THING
there's a name for this. it's called "deflecting"
>>318404959
But Anon, it has to be some marketing ploy otherwise it wouldn't fit into his narrative.
>>318403893
>>318403093
for as long as DOA has been around, the environment has never been as charged with talk of objectification and sexism as it has been within the last few years.
More criticism is being ramped up. Back when DOAX1 and 2 were originally released. Social media was not what it is today. We weren't having discussions about sexism in the gaming industry. There were no "SJWs" and "Gamergate". Anita wasn't listed as one of the most influential figures in the gaming world. it was a different time before.
Also, DOA5, for all of it's T&A, still doesn't quite have the same caliber of fanservice as DOAX. DOA5 can still be sold under the guise of a fighting game. No one is buying DOAX3 for the volleyball.
>>318405251
>>318404786
>double quoting
>all this bullshit
are you some retarded shill from playasia or something?
>>318405251
>DOA5 can still be sold under the guise of a fighting game.
believing people are going to buy DOA5 only for the fighting mechanics is like thinking Playboy's biggest audience was interested only in the articles.
>>318405653
Same could be said about any fighting game.
No one buys any game, *only* for the mechanics.
I really wouldn't be surprised if it ended up still coming to western audiences.
PlayAsia is certainly taking advantage of the situation and according to post are going to get some bank from it.
I'm going to marry Marie!
>>318396332
>>318396396
>>318396951
>>318404959
>>318405103
Sound a lot like /pol/ to me
>"NOOO, JUUDEN IS ALL BEHIND THIS! HOW COULD YOU BLAME THE WHITE MALE!"
Sure there are definitely SJWs in universities and shit, but Dead or Alive IS obscure comapred to something like Assassin's Creed
And really, why would you not release a game in another part of the world because a very vocal minority MIGHT complain about it? Not your target audience, nobody gives a shit about your image since you're a japanese company and weebs will buy whatever you release
>>318406005
except DoA has been firmly established as "that game with the huge boobed chicks" ever since the first game
arguing that Street Fighter, KoF and Tekken all have the same reputation shows you're pretending to be retarded
Does anyone have the screencap of their FB posts?
My only thought after seeing all of this was how easy it was for Playasia to get people to want to give them money by shitposting on Twitter.
>>318394321
Prove to me you would buy the game if it's shit or not just because you want to jack off to cartoons.
Oh wait.
>>318406301
>company says they'd rather not release a game in a market where games seen as "problematic" are attacked
>"it's a conspiracy! you're all /pol/fags! delusional!"
Ok.
>>318406586
You know, I'm glad.
At least people other than SJWs have figured it out.
>>318406346
You know what would be retarded? Putting sexual themes in this special little category, that somehow makes it principally outstanding from all other themes.
Every game has their little theme that makes it distinctively appealing to different people. DOA is no different.
In fact, every other game trades on sex appeal now as well. Are you going to pretend the female cast of Street Fighter isn't designed as eye candy?
>>318406586
they are a business out to make money by offering a product. condemning them is like condemning the entirety of marketing itself.
in the end, people who are interested in DOA and have either a PS4 or Vita are still getting the product they want, just as if PA posted a simple PREORDERS OPEN NOW disclaimer. all the rest is just liking and retweeting funny shit like all the other trending shit that's on twitter every week
>>318407007
>buying shitty games just for jack-off purposes
>not absolute cancer
>>318407096
>Sexual gratification is bad for some reason.
>>318406734
If it was so problematic, they wouldn't have released 5 of them+ 2 beach volleyball ones + other stuff I probably don't know about
Reminder that you're talking about a company that made this character as DLC in 2015 (THE CURRENT YEAR)
I don't see how landwhales have more power than politicians. She's literally a child, borderline (only because it's 2D) pedophilia
>>318407096
Anybody can jack of to anything. The fact is they're buying games and this contributing to the industry as opposed to bitching about them and forcing only one kind of game to be made.
>>318394321
Prove that their refusal constitutes a hard refusal that won't be reversed in a month with something like "we underestimated demand for our product in comparison to the voices speaking against it. We will be proud to offer western regions DOAX3 in its complete state when it's ready for launch."
Shit works both ways, shill. All the damage control in the world won't change that your company shits on its customers all year long, and it naturally loses you business.
>>318406909
>You know what would be retarded? Putting sexual themes in this special little category, that somehow makes it principally outstanding from all other themes.
gee, I wonder how DoA stayed alive all this time then, with 5 mainline games and two Extreme spinoffs successfully published and localized with this reputation always sticking to the brand.
>In fact, every other game trades on sex appeal now as well. Are you going to pretend the female cast of Street Fighter isn't designed as eye candy?
you don't need to pretend anything in order to see that Street Fighter's cast isn't comprised solely of Chun-Li and Cammy.
>>318407179
It is when you're willfully buying shitty games for it.
You known porn/hentai/whatever is available for free on the internet right?
>>318407190
I almost bit this bait.
>>318394321
its not, people interested in the game were going to import it anyway.
Tecmo was just saying their reasoning why they werent releasing it in the US, however Play-Asia are the ones causing the shit storm with their tweets.
and I am quite happy for it.
sjw got BTFO by playasia.
sjw have to tell themselves that it was all a marketing ploy by temcokoei and playasia just to keep on living.
>>318407367
You're right, she's 18 years old, sorry to have lied anon
>>318407321
Prove what? All you did was pile more onto the retarded conspiracy that you can't prove.
>>318394321
Why would they give a shit when criticism and controversy has never negatively affected sales, in fact it's always been the exact opposite.
The fact is that they don't want to waste money releasing their niche title in the west, and gave a sheepish excuse when pressed by the fanbase.
I'm not cynical enough to believe it's a marketing ploy, but I'm very familiar with Japanese devs. They are never completely honest with their customers as to why they went with a particular decision. They're cowards, not master manipulators.
>>318403628
Same for me. Between this and green drills bitch in Star Ocean my drive to get a PS4 is basically entierly motived by my dick.
>>318407512
She's not any age. She's a fucking graphic in a video game.
>>318394321
Just give me my beach titty game.
>>318407096
>people spending money in things they're interested is cancer
it's not your money, why do you care?
are you also gonna go full vigilante onaround the whole world to hunt down every single person who likes to eat shit?
>>318407519
>shift the conversation away from proving they won't change their statement
Won't work shill.
Senran Kagura got released in the west without any trouble.
>>318407331
I see you've never played DOA, because you think it's entire cast is solely Kasumi and Ayane.
Bad move anon. You just took a critical hit to your credibility to talk on the subject.
>I wonder how DoA stayed alive all this time then, with 5 mainline games and two Extreme spinoffs successfully published and localized with this reputation always sticking to the brand.
It's a fun fighter with an appealing theme.
Just like any other successful fighter.
>>318407648
except for all those reviewers throwing a fit about the game. but all in all it still got released.
>>318407356
If the purpose of the game is to offer the player sexual gratification, and it delivers, then how is it a shitty game? It's doing what it's supposed to be doing.
>>318403387
I believe they indirectly caused KT to not publish it, I haven't heard of any demand. KT just really pussied out because of what they may think of the situation here is in the West. Still I have heard the DOAX series in the West has lower sales compared to Japan, despite it actually sold more in the West because Japan is fucking tiny. Still if that was an issue then they should have just went by selling the game digitally only in the West.
>>318407529
>They are never completely honest with their customers as to why they went with a particular decision. They're cowards, not master manipulators.
This is so fucking right, and pretty much 100% behind all of this. Sadly all you will get are a bunch of shit posters calling you a SJW shill.
>>318407648
I'd argue they're pretty unknown compared to DoA in the US, although you're point is probably the best argument for it to be released here.
>>318407836
It was one European magazine writer who was bitching.
>>318407648
this
XSEED has a lot more to lose in case these games flopped, since it could mean their company going down for good
and SK has a fuckton more pedo material that could mean trouble in press for them
>>318407356
not him anon but, I did play a ton of volleyball with friends back on the original xbox hueg, its a pretty fun game.
the 360 was a step back though and I heard the PSP version was worse.
hopefully this one will be better.
>>318404708
America needs to get its shit sorted out as far as these feminists and SJWs go. I guess we just can't have nice things until then. They're actually doing the right thing.
>>318407836
Because SJWs don't have power over games getting released or not. Koei pussied out and is using SJWs as a convinient excuse.
>>318407512
>video game characters are real
How can you be this detached from reality?
>DoA thread
>nine images
the fuck is wrong with you people
Despising sexy video game characters is a social construct.
>>318407903
because games as a medium weren't really designed for that, and historically games that do try to do that are often of very low quality in regards to what games are actually designed to do (ie, be fun to play)
If I wanted to jerk it to anime tits I can literally google "anime tits" and save a shit load of cash.
>>318396417
DOA is probably coded in c++, so all women in that game are objects :^)
>>318407529
>>318407942
If criticism boost sales, as you claim, then why would a western release be a waste of money?
They should be looking forward to the inevitable criticism and success, right?
>>318398823
Completely wrong. They've always cared more about the western market than the domestic one. That's why Capcom still hasn't made anew Darkstalkers game, after all. Japan loved that series, it was a hit over there, but it was a complete flop everywhere else so they just kept making more Street Fighter instead, because the west buys it.
>>318407512
>18 years old
Whatever helps you sleep at night, pedophile.
>>318408161
i kek'ed
>>318394321
Eh. I'll just import it. PIssed off I need to pay shitload more for customs though.
>>318407805
wow I'm SO sorry for forgetting about Zack and Hayate, I'm sure they negate the existence of the dozen chicks that made the series what it is today.
so now you're going to pretend no one knows DoA because of its female cast and their sexual undertones. okay then, got me to reply 8/10
>SJW's butt blasted that someone with a brain decided to capitalize on the hatred towards them which results in a win-win for both the weebs who import through playAsia and the game devs themselves.
There is no argument out of this. This is really the SJW's fault. Feminist cunts did this to themselves and the whole thing is their doing one way or another. Whether the claims that feminist SJW shenanigans made Koi Tecmo decide not to deliver DOA to the west or Koi Tecmo and PlayAsia did this to rake in the dough, none of this would be happening if fat rainbow haired bitches would mind their own business and would avoid sticking their pierced noses where they don't belong. If it wasn't for them DOA would have no problems delivering to the west or wouldn't have even used the SJW excuse in the first place. You can claim that this is just an excuse to garner controversy over a boogieman issue but The only party that wins here is none SJW's. There's really no other way to put it. They even put in an english translation into the game. Don't even think about complaining about buying it when its obvious it will be cracked and pirated. In the end there is nothing wrong with tits. I like boobs and would like to watch scantily clad virtual women play volleyball and other such frivolity while their swimsuits fall apart at my leisure. Buy it or don't buy or don't get, the point is the devs of DOAX3 decided they would slap both SJW's and beta consumers to the face and cash in on the commotion. They basically ignored both groups which is exactly what we should be doing. We shouldn't be giving SJW's a platform to speak on and should ignore them completely. The same goes for the idiots that think trying to rally some sort of battle against them would work. We simply have to show them they will not be catered too and we do not care about their opinion and they have no power.
>>318408140
Too mainstream now. We'll be back to normal post PC /doa/ soon i hope
>>318406301
>Dead or Alive IS obscure comapred to something like Assassin's Creed
And this is relevant to Temco how?
Like most Japanese studios, Temco is a "middleware" company in today's industry. This means their "obscure" titles might only ship 500,000 copies in the US. But whereas this would bankrupt a AAA studio, Temco can still make a profit on these numbers. I guess they might even make money on selling 200,000 copies in japan alone, with the US market as a bonus.
But I would wager what Temco CANNOT make a profit on is basically spending 4+ months in development + Q/A + Localisation to
- Redo all the outfits for all the girls to be less skimpy or burkhas or whatever
- Add male models, voices, movesets, etc
- Redo camera angles, movesets, victory poses, etc, to make them more Chirstian/Feminist
- Pay Literally Gin-types protection money consulatancy fees
- Pay Hipster journalists reputation protection money
- Deal with endless shrill, hysterical complaints from an endless hoarde of social media reactionaries who cannot, ever, be placated under any circumstances.
Temco looked at the death and basically decided the US market is not worth the now additional cost. In a way, this can be viewed as a form of cultural protectionism, or at least cultural extortion. It's not a game Temco wanted to play.
This isn't a marketing stunt. It's the beginning of a new, culturally conservative era. Expect companies, foreign and domestic, to fall into line left and right.
>>318408241
Sorry anon, they are still improving that. It has issues that it fails to give the correct ages sometimes. This is one of those times.
BTFO nerd
>>318408387
I'm just gonna post mila
>>318407591
whatever you say pedo apologist
>>318408126
well if not releasing the game in the US because of the controversy Marie might generate (the most popular character I might add) then how is it their fault. it american media werent so butt blasted about sex there wouldnt be a problem.
remember that America is the place where this series sells the most, so its not in their best interest not releasing the game here.
of course I would have loved for the game to have a western release though.
>>318408241
>>318408473
lol samefag
inb4 inspect element
>>318407648
SK was handled in a much lower risk manner and to establish whether or no a western audience even existed for a beat-em-up in today's age it was first localized as a digital-only 3ds game which was essentially an remake of the first game in the series.
>>318407643
1. You don't know what they're going to do. You have no proof that they will do that. So until you provide proof, there is no reason to argue. You're just spouting pure speculation.
2. Even if they did decide to later release the game, you don't have any proof of their intentions. As you saw with play-asia, their little comment got them thousands of new followers on twitter, and a bunch of comments of support. Who is to say that a surge of support wouldn't be the legitimate cause for Koei changing their mind?
Again, everything you proposed is pure conjecture, which you have no proof for.
kill yourself
>>318408423
Keep telling yourself that, pedo.
>>318408528
>He doesn't know how to detect samefagging
baka desu senpai
>>318408172
Because some bean counter at KT told them it wouldn't be worth it to ship it to the west, so the didn't? It's not a hard concept to grasp here.
Niche games not being shipped to the West isn't some brand new trend here, look at Yakuza for fucks sakes.
All KT did was slap on a sheepish excuse to explain why they didn't ship this one, because that's how Japanese Devs think.
>>318408154
>be fun to play
You serious? Define "fun".
I wanna cum inside Marie.
>>318408646
stop harrassing me, I'm telling momnita
>SJW is a slur and we din du nuffin
>No one is taking your games away
>No one is FORCING them not to release the game
>But we're cool with DoA, honest. It's just boobs and they aren't taking themselves seriously
>WE DIN DU NUFFIN
>>318408370
>which results in a win-win for both the weebs who import through playAsia and the game devs themselves
how exactly is it a winwin faglord?
>>318408723
Something you play for reasons other then it gets you hard is a good start.
>feminists call us pedophiles because we're attracted to fictional characters more than them
>>318408913
>this kind of enjoyment is not as good as this other kind of enjoyment
that's not how fun works
>>318394321
What's really silly about the accusation is that KT would vilify itself with no potential benefits. Seriously, what good could come from telling the truth? If the market couldn't justify localization, why would manufactured controversy change that? They pissed people off because KT dared to tell the truth. This kind of backlash is exactly why developers avoid western markets with unedited japanese content.
>>318408363
The DOA games have equal amount men to women. Just like all fighting games today. You don't know what you're talking about. Your opinion literally mean shit right now.
>so now you're going to pretend no one knows DoA because of its female cast and their sexual undertones
No I'm not going to pretend. The sexual *over*tones is part of the "theme", I was referring to. Every game has it's own theme that appeals to different people's sensibilities. The fact that DOA's theme happens to be more sexual than the others, doesn't really mean a whole lot.
>>318408370
This nigga gets it.
>>318408913
People enjoy looking at girls. Get over it; it's a legitimate and universal form of entertainment.
>>318409007
Why not just watch videos of the game on youtube if you just want to jerk off? You're pathetic.
>>318394321
Provided that they don't turn around and actually release it in the west after all, the idea that it's a marketing ploy is fucking retarded. They would make far more from releasing it in the west than just hoping for import sales.
>>318408689
Go back to fucking your grandmother you sleazy little scumbag. The real men here will impregnate the healthy women for the good of mankind.
Degenerates such as you need not apply.
>>318408867
Shame on people for having opinions.
Instead we should stoop down to their level and demand them to check their privilege so that we can have our pedo simulators.
>>318408867
the company is allowed to do anything they want to their own product.
it's not censorship. these news outlets don't have any power over the company's decision.
>>318409007
If you are only playing something for sexual gratification, you aren't really playing a game, you are using interactive porn.
I can only imagine there are a lot better, and a helluva a lot cheaper volleyball and casino sims or whatever else they added then this game.
>>318409174
>Calling me a degenerate when you're a pedo
2/10 bait for making me reply and taking you long enough to reply.
>>318408707
>Because some bean counter at KT told them it wouldn't be worth it to ship it to the west, so the didn't? It's not a hard concept to grasp here.
Not a hard concept to grasp, no. But impossible for you to prove. Which is the ultimate point. Plausible as that may sound, you do not know it to be the truth.
>Niche games not being shipped to the West isn't some brand new trend here
Senran Kagura pulls it off.
You don't know what they are thinking. You're not in the mind of the Japanese dev.
>>318408867
>video game journalism
>relevant
Every single game that comes out is called sexist. People bitching about sexism on Twitter is like /v/ calling games shit, just the usual daily stuff.
Even AssCreed Syndicate, even though it has a pretty much SJW playable female character was slammed for being... forced pandering to feminism.
If TK wanted to bring this game to West they would, they didn't because they know this game has no audience here besides a few desperate weebs on /v/.
>>318394321
>So far the most popular narrative, is that Koei is fabricating a reason for why they refuse to release the game in the west
Did you NOT see the backlash DOA5:LR got? THAT'S their reasoning.
>>318408707
>>318407529
DOA has always sold better in the west than in Japan, including Xtreme. Stop trying to claim they didn't localise it because of sales potential because that's blatantly untrue.
>>318394321
>Some of the more popular girls(Over here anyways) in the game aren't showing up
>Diminishing returns probably means they're going to sell less than 100k copies
>DLC out the ass all but guaranteed
SJWs may be part of it, but with the above stuff added in it was gonna bomb anyways. I have a feeling everyone is just going to ignore this post anyways
>>318409331
>Senran Kagura pulls it off.
I'd like to interject for a moment. For the sake of devil's advocacy, have you considered that this is an exception and not a rule? Can you name a dozen series that pull this off?
>>318409202
>it's not censorship. these news outlets don't have any power over the company's decision.
>>318409313
>Calling me a winner at life when you're a retard
1/10 bait for making me reply and I can't believe you keep staring at this thread until I reply chucklefuck.
>>318408898
They basically made it possible to have their game sent to the west by proxy. It already has an English translation so it would be basically like buying the game as if it were released normally except for shipping and customs fees.
eat shit feminazi kike scum
i will be viraling this game everywhere so even more people will buy it
>>318409167
Why not just watch videos of other games on youtube, if you want to get your adrenaline fix?
Why not just ride a roller coaster if you want excitement?
>>318409283
it's still a game, no matter how you try and slice it.
>>318409373
I want Mila to beat me up
>>318409052
>The DOA games have equal amount men to women.
this doesn't negate the female characters from being the most known members of the cast and therefore, the "face" of DoA like the Mishima family on Tekken. arguing otherwise just shows how shit your opinion is, since it would be like saying Ryu made DoA what it is.
>The fact that DOA's theme happens to be more sexual than the others, doesn't really mean a whole lot.
>Every game has it's own theme that appeals to different people's sensibilities.
decide yourself already, because if you take away the theme of a fighting game you're left with a generic cast. no matter how good a fighting game's mechanics are, it will still look shit if you're just fighting with stick figures.
>>318409167
>>318409283
>If you are only playing something for sexual gratification
>this is what feminists actually believe
Kasumi is the second best DoAfu.
Do you people not remember how shit Dead or Alive games are.
>>318409602
why is ayane so much better than her sister, goddamn
>>318409331
>But impossible for you to prove. Which is the ultimate point. Plausible as that may sound, you do not know it to be the truth.
And yet them being scared off by the SJW Menace is? We can totally take what they say at face value, when Japanese Devs (well, more like Japanese Business in general) have a history of distorting truths and making excuses?
>>318408140
>>318408468
>>318408574
>>318408725
>>318408849
>>318408943
>>318409238
>>318409373
>>318409482
Just post more thighs, it's the only thing that's worth posting in this thread at this point, mate.
>>318409531
>Have 2 monitors
>Play vidya on one
>Have browser open on the other
It sure is hard to check for replies. Also, here's your last (You), pedo.
>Prove that it's all a marketing ploy
Hanlon's razor. Tecmo is not a very smart company.
>>318409482
I don't have sales charts of a dozen other niche Japanese titles immediately in front of me. But I'm sure fi you asked the right person, they can help you compile a list.
>>318409723
she's not
I think it's the ultimate c-uck when you'd rather fuck a fictional character than a real person. You cannot get c-ucked harder than that.
>>318409723
Semen Demon genes like Honoka has
>>318409570
That has nothing to do with sjw though. Japanese developers are using chinese studios who will localize into english for less than their foreign counterparts. Their english is serviceable and they never intentionally censor or interject into the script. They also happen to localize into chinese, which expands their target market exponentially. Why waste time on a few americans when you can get millions of chinese?
>>318409751
thighs are acceptable
>>318409283
>If you are only playing something for sexual gratification, you aren't really playing a game, you are using interactive porn.
>If you are only playing something for the feeling of driving, you aren't really playing a racing game, you are using an interactive car.
also
>you aren't enjoying this product in the way you're supposed to, stop doing this and play the way I want you to do it.
which is the basis for all the Dark Souls wankery
>>318409869
in which case that is my challenge to that argument
until that list is compiled, SK is an exception and not a rule
>>318409717
I never liked the series, always thought it was horny nerd pandering bullshit, but I am legit mad that this has happened in the industry in 2015.
>>318409670
the game has just has much eye candy for woman as it does for men. however men play this game far more than women, thus you hear about the women more often.
Hell even women fans dress up as the females from the game, so females get promoted more than the males.
Fucking Ryu Hayabusa is in the cast and you think that is not important, Bass is awesome, Zack is great,
>>318409783
You know what? Once my order gets in, I'm gonna put it in the console. Boot up and choose Marie, i'll proceed to find a nice lewd part. On the floor I will lay down the printed screenshot of your posts. Then I will start furiously masturbating to her as I cum all over your opinion.
>>318410073
Same here, it's not about DoA for me. I just don't like censorship. And if someone wants to play this game because they're a horny nerd then they should be allowed obviously. That's not a reason to take their fun away.
>>318409481
Basically this.
People try to make DoAX3 the holy crusade against feminism and SJWs but really, the game is just a DLC dressing simulator. There's no audience for this sort of stuff in the West.
And I also love to see how /v/ can quickly jump boat and suddenly accept microtransactions scamming when a game is made by a Japanese developer. DoAX3 shills are mentally retarded.
moving to ayane
>>318409934
Why aren't you posting the brown goddess?
>>318409751
>that v-string
Those things are miracles
>>318409481
Hitomi and Marie are in it, so its fine with me.
>>318410298
there are a lot of good characters, you can't fault me for not posting them all
>>318409670
Oh wow. Because women are the face of the game, that means what, exactly? Tell me what that means. Because I'm confused.
>if you take away the theme of a fighting game you're left with a generic cast. no matter how good a fighting game's mechanics are, it will still look shit if you're just fighting with stick figures.
hey, that's the point *I* have been trying to illustrate this whole time. The fact that if you strip the game of it's theme and style, then it loses it's appeal. no one wants to play a game that's pure mechanics and no style.
That's why I said you can make the same analogy of playboy to the other fighting games.
The games are shit anyway
>>318396417
>Being an person who believes in true equality, I don't think "sexy" games objectify anything. The only reason people think that is because we're tied to earth by old words and ideals. Not everyone thinks women as objects, and objectify isn't a term just used for women. Humans objectify everything, because it goes into how we view things as objects associated to other objects. The movies industry isn't just objectifying women, but all things. Every character in a movie falls into a trope, yet the trope isn't always correct 100% in all cases of humanity.
holy fuck go back to reddit
>>318410397
You're not wrong tobehonest family
>>318408689
stop posting it everyday ok faggot?
You guys aren't even trying to hide anymore. Get out
>>318410132
>Hell even women fans dress up as the females from the game, so females get promoted more than the males.
I don't see how that disproves my point. Women liking the game doesn't negate the fact the female cast's sex appeal exists and is prominent in the series.
>Fucking Ryu Hayabusa is in the cast
gee, Akira Yuki is in the cast too. guess this means the main cast is not important anymore and the game could be safely called Ninja Gaiden Fightan Edition instead, or "Virtua Fighter + other irrelevant characters"
I don't think these cameos are not important, but they sure as hell don't represent the core of the DoA series.
I like this one quite a bit
>mfw they finally made tanlines a thing
This is the best fetish. Good thing we hadn't to wait for it too long on PC kek
>>318410232
I wouldn't mind all the dlc, if they had managed to put in all the fucking characters. Its not like it would have been a fuckton of effort. It kinda pisses me off how everyone is sucking dick when it was pretty clear the main cause of all this was their laziness.But mostly I'm just salty about Leifang
>>318410701
>female cast's sex appeal exists and is prominent in the series.
you are ignoring the fact that the male cast has sex appeal as well. but the game is played mainly by men.
>>318410665
double the ayane, double the fun
>>318410665
Only posted it 2 times. I'll stop posting when you stop being a pedophile.
>>318409570
>They basically made it possible to have their game sent to the west by proxy.
>by proxy.
>by proxy.
You can buy anything BY PROXY.
>>318410490
>Tell me what that means. Because I'm confused.
>hey, that's the point *I* have been trying to illustrate this whole time. The fact that if you strip the game of it's theme and style, then it loses it's appeal. no one wants to play a game that's pure mechanics and no style.
you just answered your own question
take away the Mishima family and the people involved with them from Tekken and you're left with a boring generic fighter.
SF3 is notorious for pulling the same thing by alienating fans with a ton of weird donut steels and leaving only Ryu/Ken/Chun li in it.
>>318410701
What would a virgin neckbeard know about women? Attractive women don't give a shit about these games. Only ugly bitches complain about this.
This is nothing more then ugly bitches being jealous.
Friendly reminder that complaining about sex appeal won't take away the universal desire for sex, nor will it get you sex. The only way you can get sex is to make yourself sexy so someone will want to have sex with you.
So quit complaining ladies. Complaining is the polar opposite of sexy.
If marie didn't exist itd get released over here.
Thank god for marie, im importing anyway.
I wish the japan version had English subs though, i already have a jap account, now i need a hong kong one.
>>318410973
>>318409734
>And yet them being scared off by the SJW Menace is?
Not the SJWs. Remember this distinction. That KT didn't point out any particular person or group. Rather, they said they were afraid of the environment.(or something along those lines, I forget their exact words)
The distinction is necessary, because it goes to show that KT is worried about how their game would get caught up in discussions of sexism and all that. Not necessarily that there is an adversary. But that the climate is not good for them right now.
It's like. There is a hurricane outside, so they're refusing to leave the house. And you guys are like
>Don't worry about it! It's only a little bit of rain and wind. Happens all the time! No big deal. Here, take my umbrella.
Why is she, /v/?
>>318411273
Because she's fat and underage.
>>318410046
Nope. That's not how it works. We have one supposed "niche" game, against another niche game. One refuses to come out, the other has no problem. The anecdotes cancel each other out. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you to prove that Senran Kagura is the exception.
>>318411140
>>318411015
>Only ugly bitches complain about this.
>This is nothing more then ugly bitches being jealous.
This is exactly what it's about. Also, see: >>318409881
Feminists are just mad they're getting c-ucked by Marie
>>318410847
>you are ignoring the fact that the male cast has sex appeal as well.
acknowledging that the female cast is more prominent, and by your own words being sought more by the majority of the game's audience, doesn't negate the existence of male fanservice. it's simply not as relevant.
call me back when DoA 6 starts advertising solely with sexy men on posters and shit. or an Extreme Volleybal focusing only on ripped abs and flopping bulges.
>>318411383
you can only pull one name and trying to set it as a standard for "it can be done for niche games"
there has to be more than one instance in order for that to hold
Why does oatmeal cookie hate footsies?
>>318411498
>you can only pull one name and trying to
forgive me, goddamn what a post
>>318411182
I think that's only part of it. Remember how they said they wouldn't have DLC for DOA 5? Remember all the bullshit with the PC version? Also the fact that some of the cast aren't appearing in the game at all. I think they're concerned about being ripped into from all sides
>>318411498
No, the original claim was this
>Niche games not being shipped to the West isn't some brand new trend here
It's on you to prove a trend.
>>318409783
>WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FICTIONAL NON-EXISTING SERIES OF CODES THAT FORM IMAGES USING PIXELS ON A TV SCREEN?!
>>318411470
>call me back when DoA 6 starts advertising solely with sexy men on posters and shit. or an Extreme Volleybal focusing only on ripped abs and flopping bulges
And who's gonna buy it? those 1000 weeb girls?
Get a fucking grip retard, markets demand something the market gets it.
Momiji is the best thing that doesn't exist. Prove me wrong.you can't
>>318411680
unless my reading comprehension is trash what I'm saying is that if SK is the only brand that can be cited as a repeatedly successful niche tiddy game, then there is insufficient precedent to believe that these games are inherently successful.
>>318411470
if men are the main buyers, then of course they will market to them, that doesnt change the fact that they still DO service their female fanbase by having equally appealing men in their cast.
>>318410701
What does the prominent sex appeal of the female cast MEAN. You keep pointing it out. Without specifying what it MEANS.
>>318411498
Not him, but those kinds of games are niche even in Japan and they have to be pretty popular over there to come here at all in the first place.
Off the top of my head Lolipop Chainsaw, Oneechanbara, maybe a couple others.
>>318409610
BOTTOMLESS MILA HOW?
>>318412061
Except for the fact that the male characters don't get nearly the amount of service the women get. Hell, the male characters don't even get the amount of polygons or the quality of textures the females have.
>>318412315
LOTS OF WORK MANUALLY MODIFYING COSTUMES
>>318412053
Google "dead or alive extreme sales". The us was more than 50% of total world sales for the last two games; if they made a 3rd game, it would be absolutely stupid not to have a us version.
If you want to take away anyone's fun (as long as they're not doing anything that actually harms another person in a tangible and realistic way) then there is something fucking wrong with you and society does not need you and your stupid ideas.
>>318412128
that this is one of the defining themes of the game, separating it from the likes of SF and KoF. take the girls and their sexiness away and DoA becomes a generic fighter with OC Donut Steels.
>>318412318
they sure dont
>>318412318
Females have more stuff protruding and jiggling, which takes more polygons. If the dudes had skins where they were wearing cock socks, but their dicks were freely swinging, they'd have more polygons. Make a mod and show Koei it sells :)
>>318412393
I'm well aware of those sales, but American sales are consistently higher than Japanese ones across nearly the entire board, and Xboxes were more commonplace in the West regardless
>>318412053
The original argument was niche Japanese games *in general* not coming to the west as a trend.(Yakuza referenced as an example) Not only games with titties.
Also, no one was arguing that niche Japanese games are inherently successful. The reason Senran Kagura was referenced, was to show that it's possible. There is a market. Hell, there was a market for the previous 2 DOAX games.
Samus looks really nice in this game.
