Its going to be shit isn't it?
>>318369814
Haven't you seen the gameplay videos?
>>318369814
I want to fuck that demon
>>318369814
Well, you saw that bullshit trailer. It literally looked like an interactive movie. They've taken the best part of the shitty movie, and turned it into a 4 hour cutscene, feeding off hype, hope and dreams.
>>318370037
>It literally looked like an interactive movie
It literally didn't.
I just hope it gives us good models for more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0eDrogZ7lA
Doom3 was a good game.
>>318369814
>Doom 3 models & artstyle
GEE I SURE WONDER.
it still baffles me. how can they even consider that fucking demon look anything like this? they're literally 2spoopy aliens. you could put them in dead space without any fucking change and nobody would ask a single question.
demons = horns and magic, not 4spoopy skinless eyeless beefy monster.
>>318372423
It's a great design, though.
Why did everyone start screaming when they showed off the slow gameplay?
>>318369951
Kenneth Scott's best doom 3 design was certainly the Hell Knight, but the original design is far cooler.
>>318370037
>>318372423
I literally disregard opinionated posts dumb enough to throw around the word 'literally'.
D44M, at the very worst, will be as good as the Wolfenstein reboot, which was a fantastic game if you're not a whiny autistic cunt who expects it to be as it was in 1993.
>>318369814
Why does it have hair? Is hell cold? What could that little layer of hair possibly provide?
>>318372654
"oh no he used a word i don't like!!!! IGNORED XD"
>>318369814
I hope you enjoy sluggish movement, cutscene kills and halo weapons.
I really hope that there's going to be mods outside of the snapmap thing.
>>318369814
Yes.
>>318369814
Thank fucked they renamed it back to Doom 4, at least.
well being as im pretty sure the trailer was fabricated and not real gameplay its hard to tell
>>318373042
Unfortunately it's still being called DOOM instead of 4
>>318373197
Burn it all.
>>318372934
>first kill
>that's gonna be awesome to do
>kept watching
>they are all the same
>mfw
>>318373197
and this is why we need to tell devs to stop listening to game reviewers cause they are the only ones screaming about sequels just being numbered id rather a lazy dev number than just keep naming each game the same thing
>>318372934
If I could go back in time and kill one person as a baby, I'd kill the guy who made Brutal DOOM. That looks fucking terrible.
>>318372423
The Hell Knights were one of the better designs from Doom 3. Also Barons of Hell in Doom 4 use the old the minotaur and hooves look.
Also, demons don't exist and thus can look like anything the artist wants it to.
>>318373364
I don't get the complaint either, it's much easier to organize the games when they're actually properly numbered or have some sort of sub-title to them.
It annoys me too how the new Hitman game is just going to be called Hitman (despite the first game being called Hitman: Codename 47).
I understand they want to forget Absolution happened but christ, just call it Blood Money 2 or something.
>>318373547
>Also Barons of Hell in Doom 4 use the old the minotaur and hooves look.
screenshot please?
>>318369814
>Bethesda
Gee, I don't know.
>>318373631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH9mIf9hXTI
Around 0:54, right after the obvious pinky demon you can see a larger demon behind all the Hell Knights with a very clear minotaur appearance.
Why do they bother with Doom3 design anyway?
The cyberdemon looks like some Gears of War bullshit. They dropped the ball on that one.
>>318373451
>Brutal DOOM
Why? It's just a mod.
>>318374170
Because DOOM 4 is partially inspired by Brutal DOOM, it's the reason you have the cutscene kills in >>318372934
>>318372423
What does the Cacodaemon look like?
>>318372825
Way to help him identify that you are in fact retarded.
After playing the closed alpha (XBOX ONE) I can certainly and safely confirm that the franchise is still in capable hands. It was such a sweet rush of nostalgia and fast paced gunplay that we are used to.
The revenant was OP as fuck though.
I only have stills of weapons if anyone wants more or to AMA about it
>>318374345
in the off chance you are not being a faggot why the executions entirely optional?
>>318373753
>franchise spawned by some of the best programmers in history will die at the hands of the worst programmers in history
It's like poetry
>>318374247
Welp, I guess that explains quite a few things.
>Doom & Doom II
>demons look like demons
>hell looks like an alien location
>Doom III
>demons look like aliens
>hell looks like hell
>>318369814
Shit by old doom standards, okay by the standards of other games released these days.
>>318369814
Its gonna be Battlefront all over again...
People get hyped, and the release is an utter disappointment.
>>318374481
poetryexcept lots of demons didn't look anything like classic demons in originals
>>318372934
I watched this "gameplay" demo...
Its nextlevel prerendered bullshitclip, really smart, but there are no twitching movements of the mouse, even a fuckking joypad would have more "squarely" movement
>>318370037
Stop projecting. It's not as fast and colorful as the old doom, but it's far from an interactive movie.
>>318374481
the only reason hell looked alien was because of the limited engine they where working with
>>318374538
*It's gonna be Wolfenstein New Order all over again...
*People get hyped, and the release shows it's a pretty darn good game that respects the franchise
ftfy
>>318374627
>>318374481
Wasn't aware Episode 2 looked alien with all those walls lined with intestinal tract, brimstone, lava and eyeball switches.
>>318374481
>hell looks like an alien location
I disagree, it looked fairly hellish for the limitations of the time. You know what looked alien? Duke levels will the pods, eggs, and slime shit everywhere and especially episode 2.
>>318374450
It's not being developed by Bethesda's game studio you dense cunt.
>>318374345
Yeah, this is exactly how I remember Doom.
>>318374419
Why are they optional or are they?
They are and are hard to pull off.
Why? Gives it good pacing.
Keep in mind it's hard as shit to pull off because the movement is so fast. Not only do you need to knock off all armor (which is indicated on how much of a green contrast is on an enemy) but you also have to knock HP down to 25-35 I believe. When its ready you'll see a white shimmer leaving them open for the attack.
I've played the alpha between 35-45 hours and I've pulled it off maybe half a dozen times. I've averaged a 2.5 KD/R and used the plasma rifle and the vortex rifle almost exclusively
>>318374693
TNO didn't even look that bad during the press releases. Hardly a DXHR situation.
>>318374819
To be fair, it plays more like Quake than it does DOOM.
That being said whoever was controlling in this webm is complete garbage and doing it wrong
>>318373049
Its really not, they added some elements of actual game but its all in the movement of the mouse.
First, FOV is literally 50 and for a fast game Doom actually should be, FOV50 would mean shitload of twitch movement with mouse, looking around, either this guy played this level for 20000 times and he knows what, when and where will come out, but even then he wouldn move his mouse slow like a pansy.
Im even willing to believe graphics wont be too far away(what with IDTech5,fast SSDs,8 gb vram GPUs and all) but gameplay will be shit if you will be able to move your mousr that slow.
>>318374819
>gun ripped right the fuck out of unreal tournament
>>318369814
Undoubtedly.
>Garbage art direction
>DO GORY FINISHER FOR HP!!11
>Fucking TWO weapon limit
>Looks slow as hell
>Auto aim out the wazoo
>>318374819
>30
>30
>slow pre-baked kill animation
>random gibbing for no discernable reason upon death
>>318374992
>two weapon limit
this is incorrect
>>318375068
Did they change that? Last I heard, you could only carry two.
>>318375019
He got super shotgun'd.
How the HELL do you fuck up Doom?
It's gotta be the simplest fucking FPS to replicate
Even replicating Brutal Doom would be fine if it retained the sense of speed and power, but instead every gameplay footage I see makes it look like a weird Halo/Timesplitters crossbreed
What the fuck are the Wolfenstein: TNO guys doing? Why aren't they working on this?
>>318375095
For the multi its two.
>>318375095
they hyped up the weapon shell in the E3 demos that let you carry all of the guns in the game at once
>>318374992
>DO GORY FINISHER FOR HP!!11
Or you can just shoot them again for the same reward.
>Fucking TWO weapon limit
All gameplay videos show you holding all the guns at once.
>Looks slow as hell
>Auto aim out the wazoo
Official videos are playing on consoles, what do you expect?
>>318374992
>>318375095
There was literally never a two weapon limit, the fuck is wrong with you?
Are you really shitposting without even watching the 15 minutes of gameplay shown from E3?
>>318375019
>random gibbing for no discernable reason upon death
But Doomguy literally turned enemies inside out by punching them, of all things why is that your complaint?
>>318375152
Machinegames are busy making a sequel.
>>318375195
>loadouts
they already fucked it up unreal tounramnet 2016 is gong to eat its fucking lunch
>>318375226
>Or you can just shoot them again for the same reward.
Pretty sure that's not true. The whole idea of the finisher pinata effect is that they're rewarding the player for "getting up close and personal".
>>318375274
Shit it may be
>caring about MP in Doom
>>318369814
It's going to be Wolf all over again. Not bad, just overall decent shooter with some good and some bad ideas.
Still far better than any shooter released in recent years,
>>318374786
Not him but it's being developed by people with even less talent than Bethesda's studio. The people who are currently at ID are talentless college rejects
>>318375329
It's cosmetic. You can see is various gameplay trailers where they don't initiate a fatality and enemies still drop health and shit.
>>318375095
no, this has never been the case
>>318375274
Highly doubt that
>>318374247Brutal Doom has no cinematic kills with the chainsaw and it has more ways to cut enemies apart than the oneDon't blame Brutal Doom for Doom 4 coming out like shit, it would always have been Halo with demons
>>318375343
Backing this.
It'll be just as good/'bad' as Wolfenstein TNO, which is great to me.
>>318375404
I'll believe it when it's actually confirmed.
Because even if you are right, there's still the chance that meleeing enemies could drop MORE health/ammo than if you didn't.
>>318375404
In the trailers they dropped considerably less resources for non-cinematic kills.
Watch it again.
The imps that were shot dropped like 3 pickups, while those that got fatalized dropped 8-10
>>318369814
They're trying to sell it on the action, not on the name.
That alone pretty much means it'll be alright.
>>318375730
>You remember DOOM right?
>This is the old DOOM experience!
>DOOM was always about being fast, and we're bringing that to the modern audience
The name is just as important as the gameplay to them anon, you don't need to lie.
>>318369814
>it's not going be my rose tinted glasses experience, isn't it
nope
>sawn off shotgun
>its called Super Shotgun
When I first saw the E3 gameplay, I liked it.
My one true complaint was the finishers, but after months of thinking about it, I can really accept it.
You can call it jarring and intrusive on the gameplay experience, but as someone who always goes for the hardest difficulty, having split-second, pivotal breaks to understand what your next immediate action will be really, really helps.
It's the same as the momentary breather you get after dodging an enemy in Serious Sam. Or when you bash an enemy back in Killing Floor. Or when you throw a pipe bomb in Left 4 Dead.
Not trying to say it's actually a good thing, but I can definitely deal with it.
>>318375934
Doom 1 is still fun to play, though, so really, if it can't outdo a game that's 20 years old, what's the point
>>318376192
>if it can't outdo a game that's 20 years old, what's the point
That's a little loaded. What's the point of any FPS game in the past 20 years then? What outdoes Doom?
>>318376267
Not that anon but
A lot of games match Doom at the very least.
And the idea should be that Doom 4 adds and expands on what Doom 1 and 2 established.
So if it really can't at least match the originals in terms of quality then it shouldn't really be bothered with.That isn't to say Doom 4 HAS to be like Doom 1 and 2 to the letter, it just has to be good even if it does it's own thing.
Should I play 3? I tried it back when it came out and it was all grey and boring and you had to switch to your stupid flashlight and fights felt more like a survival horror than fast paced action. But now I'm more open to that idea, so I wonder if it's good by itslelf or still shit even by horror standards?
>>318376506
If D44M is to Doom as Wolfenstein TNO is to Wolfenstein 3D, I think any rational fan will be absolutely satisfied.
>>318376535
I had an irrational hatred towards it for a while, but it's decent. The BFG edition gives you a shoulder-mounted flashlight so there's no more switching.
Beyond the halfway mark the action picks up pretty hard, and you can ride that fun until the end.
>>318376535
It's "Bad SS2".
So if you played SS2 and are hankering for more it should do. Handled the random-ass notes better than Bioshock did, at least, and has better gameplay than that slow crawling abomination.
>>318376692
>If D44M is to Doom as Wolfenstein TNO is to Wolfenstein 3D, I think any rational fan will be absolutely satisfied.
This is kind of what I am expecting out of it.I didn't care for TNO that much though.
>>318376535
Doom 3 doesn't really have a lot of satisfying action and the guns feel pretty bad.
However the Hell sections of the game is really good, very nice designs and the encounters are well done.
Doom 3 on it's own when not compared to Doom 1 and 2 stands out okay.
It's not amazing or anything.
The scares the monsters provide are not very well done though, lots of monster closets and little is switched up.
>>318376692
>Wolfenstein TNO is to Wolfenstein 3D
>not Return to Castle Wolfenstein / Enemy Territory that came in between
>>318376931
RtCW was basically solely focused on gameplay and fast paced action.
TNO was focused on slower paced action, bigger guns and story.
Doom 4 is probably going to be more like TNO than RtCW
>>318376013
It was always called that, haven't you played Doom 2?
>>318374992
The two weapon limit is in multiplayer, not single player.
>>318376931
>>318376925
>>318376692
>tfw really liked TNO
>tfw it's what I expect and will most likely get from Doom 4
>tfw won't be able to browse threads on /v/ about it during release because it'll be filled with angry shitposters just like TNO was at release
Fuck it.
>>318377004
fair enough
>>318372934
>>318377162As long as you're happy that's all that matters.
>>318377267I just hope I'm not the only one
>>318375152
>How the HELL do you fuck up Doom?
Good question, i don't even know what the fuck they were thinking with Doom 3. i guess good Doom game needs Carmack and Romero working together, otherwise it's just shit.
>>318377162
It happens when sequel is worse than prequel. And these threads turn into shitfest, because people who didn't play prequel, just heard of it, will join argue anyway,
While there's slim hope people will still remember Doom 3, for what it was, it may be completely forgotten, just like Wolfenstein 2009 was in threads about TNO
>>318369814
is it even a question
>>318375152
>>318377429
Because cloning a game from 20 years ago and making it look pretty would be fucking garbage and makes it look and feel cheap.
There's a huge, active community dedicated to keeping Doom and Doom 2 alive through incredible maps and mods. No genuine fan of the franchise actually want a shiny version of Doom 1, they want something that's both respectful and different that adds to the franchise.
>>318375152
>How do you fuck up Doom?
Easy, you replicate fucking Bioshock or Halo instead of Doom.
>>318374289
as long as it has a fartpipe, i'm okay with itJust joking, doom4 cackos look dumb as shit.
>>318377871
>two holes
>>318377957
Don't
>>318377979
You saying you wouldn't?
>>318378010
His body is full of flammable gas mang, your dick gonna be roasted
>>318377957
>>318378010hdoomguy has got our back
>>318377713
>Because cloning a game from 20 years ago and making it look pretty would be fucking garbage and makes it look and feel cheap.
Because good level design, good weapons and solid gameplay isn't a thing anymore? Instead we got some halfassed horrorgame which has no reason to exist and now we're getting Halo in hell. What's the point even calling it Doom if their only goal is to copy other games.
>>318374819
fucking disgusting
why couldn't they just make a Doom game
why did they pretend that this game would be a fast paced game about killing demons and going 100mph
why
>>318378327
Hey remember that audience full of people who came out singing its praises?
>>318377490
Wolfenstein 2009 was actually really good game and shooting felt so satisfying in it.
>>318378315
>good level design
Anything beyond episode one was garbage, don't lie to yourself, it's unhealthy.
>>318378390
>>318378314
>Slap a naked female torso onto a red balloon and paste the spikes onto it.
Poor guy must be creatively bankrupt.
>>318378327
>hinging your entire thought of a game on a 10 second .webm played on consoles by players named "zdogzzz007", "mamai3623" and "Usmaister92"
Must be exhausting hating everything at first glance
>>318378447
Maybe in first DooM, DooM 2 was pure gold from the very start to the icon of sin. Still remember levels like Crusher and Suburbs, you can't say that was bad level design?
>>318378629
It actually feels a lot less exhausting than getting all hyped up and after that realize it was shit all along.
>>318378661
Ummmmm...
>>318378716
You could also try having "reasonable expectations", it's pretty alright.
>>318378483
wrong cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqzOLOrMC8
>>318378629
>Implying this is the only footage I've seen
It's not at all baseless. I wanted to be excited for Doom 4, especially after hearing them hype it up about being "going fast, killing demons, and big fucking guns". It's not that at all.
>>318378390
> people actually believed them
> those constant threads about how cool the game is going to be based on what the audience said
> all gone once we saw the actual footage
>>318369814
Edgy cut-scenes and Bethesda
>>318378820
The "killing demons" and "big guns" parts are completely true. 2/3 isn't bad.
>>318378842
It's the same thing with everything. No matter what shit they show people who never played the original games are cheering just because they recognize the name and see good graphics. Same thing with Battlefront and everything.
>>318378661
>Conveniently forgetting the garbage like Factory and Downtown.
aight
>>318369814
Bethesda is doing it ain't they? That should answer your question.
>>318378884
Going fast is essential to doom.
>>318378935
Those weren't bad levels. Maybe not as great as some of the best levels, but def not garbage.
People said Shadow Warrior was going to be shit.It wasn't
People said Serious Sam 3 was going to be shit.It wasn't
People said Wolfenstein: The New Order was going to be shit.It wasn't
People are saying DOOM 4 is going to be shit.It ______?
>>318372585
because its DOOM!!! XD
>>318369814
Hoping for the best, but it's always healthy to be skeptic about shit like this. Just assume it will be shit, and you'll be fine.
You can all thank me later :)
>>318379091
I don't understand why the enemies wouldn't run at you in Wolfenstein.
>>318377075
To my knowledge the super shotgun wasn't sawn off?
>>318373451
>>318374247
These faggots never played Brutal Doom
>>318372934
This is shit. How hard would it be to make the Chainsaw a swingable weapon that could catch in meat and take off parts.
>>318377871
>DOOM4 Cacodemons won't look cool
I don't get it. If you already ride on the nostalgia train, why not pay tribute to the older designs?
>>318379091
DUKE
NUKEM
FOREVER
>>318379002
D44M looks 'Serious Sam fast'. Stop thinking Doom was so great because of the speed. It was never about the speed, it was about the movement. It was about surviving by dodging instead of hiding, not about running 100mph. The gameplay trailer for hell really highlighted this.
>>318378661
>DooM 2 was pure gold from the very start to the icon of sin.
Say that in /vr/'s Doom thread and see what happens to you.
>>318379257
They're the same just really brown
>>318379239
Are you asking money for something new from Bethesda? Now way, prerendered it is.
>>318379091
>People said Syndicate was going to be shit
>It was
>People said Duke Nukem Forever was going to be shit
>It was
>People said Doom 3 was going to be shit
>It was
>>318374693
>Wolfenstein TNO
>Respecting the franchise
It was a Wolfenstein game in name alone.It was okay but everytime it did something really well it shot itself in the foot moments later.Moon base was the ultimate letdown
>>318379091
Shadow Warrior pissed me off because it threw away the guns (not literally) in favour of the sword. It was less about rooty tooty point and shooties and more about getting your combat multiplier even higher.
>>318379257
D2 Caco design is a literal rip-off, google "astral dreadnought".
>>318379313
>It was never about the speed, it was about the movement. It was about surviving by dodging instead of hiding, not about running 100mph.
This guy gets it.
>>318372934
THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS DO THEY EVEN PLAY VIDEOGAMES, WHY CANT THEY SEE THAT THEY ARE RUINING THE GAMEPLAY FUJGQFGFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>318379356
I was fine with that.
Although original Shadow Warrior had the best flamethrower I've ever used in a game - not just in looks, in terms of sheer usefulness - and it sucks they ditched that.
Least the ending wasn't complete dogshit.
>>318379091
> SW, SS2 and TNO
> not shit to mediocre at best
acquire taste
>>318379349
Syndicate was actually pretty good, dat Kusanagi heavy rifle. Doom 3 was bad, but I still enjoyed it.
>>318379326
they look like one-eyed goblins that smoked some stellar, crystal fuckin' weed. It even looks like they have a helmet.
>>318379349
Doom 3 wasn't shit though, it just wasn't a Doom game.
>>318379091
>new wolfestein
>not shit
>new serious sam
>cod is the tarjet audience
>not shit
oh nevermind you are baiting
>mfw this game comes out
>it's praised left to right as "return to old scool shooters" and "true sequel Doom deserves" by gaming jurnalists
>too young and casual to know Doom, Doom II or even Doom 3
>from anything beyond forum stories and screenshots
I probably should not give a damn anymore, but still...
>>318379423
What flamethrower did Shadow Warrior have? The green orc head? I mean you are right but i've just never really thought of it as a flamethrower before.
>>318379482
>unironically thinking Croteam is a bad developer who made SS3 as a cashgrab
I can't believe someone would even pretend to think that, how fucking sad can you be, top kek
>>318379354
Remember the plot point about how the Nazi's managed to make so much cement in so few years? Remember how the answer wasn't "cremated jew dust"? Biggest upset for me.
>>318379564
One and only.
>all this shit gameplay in the videos
fuck, now I don't even feel like playing the fucking beta I'm entitled for.
>>318379158
Because Bethesda's AI can't sprint or jump unless scripted to do so.
Face it guys, it's Bethesda. This game isDOOMed
>>318374987
>Cod has become halo
>Halo has become COD
>Doom has become UT
ID only exists as a name now.
Anything that made it ID is long gone.
>I can't wait to see quake 5
>will prolly be TF2 with demons
>>318379598
>I can't believe someone would even pretend to think that, how fucking sad can you be, top kek
> tolerating how a large portion of the game was recycled from a cancelled modern shooter
>>318379598
Plenty of people dropped game before leaving Cairo. Can't exactly blame them.
>>318379313
>>318379389
So if they slowed down the rate of fire and the run speed it would still feel like a Doom game because you're casually walking out of the line of fire? No, fuck you.
>>318379508
Why anyone even bothers reading gaming journalism anymore when it's so apparent they don't know anything about games and are just shills.
>>318379313
>Say that in /vr/'s Doom thread and see what happens to you.
Like I'd give a shit what millenials roleplaying oldschool Doomfans think of that. It had good level design and it looks even better when compared to any modern fps.
>>318379757
Why the fuck can't people learn the difference between a developer and a publisher?
>>318379815
ID was gone the moment Romero left and it happened 20 years ago. It's time to let go.
It was shit the second I saw the slow movement speed.
>>318379916
you're an idiot
Map wasn't issue. Weapons weren't issue.
Issues were lack of level design in regard of enemy spawns and their variety, and highly questionable new enemy design, most notably their blending into background and immunities killing pacing
>waaah why can't I get a shiny new replica of a 2.5d game from over two decades ago from the same people that aren't even in the business anymore
This is DOOM, there's absolutely no plausible way that ANYTHING released today could live up to that namesake. I'll take what I can get, the vast majority of you will shit on it no matter what. This is probably why valve doesn't bother with hl3, and I don't blame them.
>>318380331
>Quake 1
>Fighting horrifying demons with advanced weaponry in a variety of locales dripping with Gothic aesthetic
>Quake 2
>brown n grey space marines
Least it wasn't as hideously pronounced in quality difference as Blood 1 and 2.
>>318380563
I agree anon - if they were just going to shit all over the series and sell a completely different game under the same name, why'd they even fucking bother?
>>318380318
There's literally no difference.
MachineGames was aquired by Bethesda to develop TNO right after studio was formed, and it was their first game. Only other game they created was, take guess? The Old Blood.
>>318379159
AFAIK. They used toy guns for the animation in doom. I have seen photos where the regular shotgun in doom is mby 40 cm long kids toy. Don't know what they used for double barrel but imho they didn't really care of whether the proportions were of sawed off shotgun or not. They just wanted it to read as shotgun with 2 barrels.
>>318380273
>The veteran players that have played through countless .wad's created by other veteran players that know the full potential of the Doom engine.
vs
>A guy who swears Doom 2 wasn't a heartless cash grab with shitty level design.
>>318380563
I think it's justified to shit on obvious cashgrab, they really could've just make totally new game instead calling that Haloclone Doom.
>>318380563
>there's absolutely no plausible way that ANYTHING released today could live up to that namesake.
Serious Sam
Painkiller
>>318380802
Both are slow. Better example would be Tribes or something.
it's modern FPS material so yea it's gonna be the same old shit, pandering to consoles
>>318380802
Painkiller is garbage
Quake 1: Iconic
Quake 2: Legendary
Quake 3: Mediocre
Quake 4: Shit
Doom 1: Iconic
Doom 2: Legendary
Doom 3: Mediocre
Doom 4: ????
They should just reboot the Heretic series ffs
>>318372654
>I literally disregard opinionated posts dumb enough to throw around the word 'literally'.
Better disregard your own post next then
>>318380707
>Doom 2 is heartless cash grab
Too obvious baiting.
>>318380895
Quake 2 is really bad objectively speaking.
>>318380921
>dark fantasy first-person shooter/slasher
Yes.
>>318380707
Doom 1 had shitty level design.
>>318369951
It does have an awfully feminine waist wouldn't be surprised if there was a burning hot tentacled demon vag in there
>>318374819
>consolefags will unironically think they're good on this incredibly slow MP
Seriously, where's the fast pacedbunnyhopaction?
>>318375274
Doom will have a hard time competing with UT4 FREE mp.
>>318380921
I'm sure they'd just fuck that up too. The problem is that Romero was the one handling design and is responsible for most of that old id looks. Carmacks job was to make Romeros ideas work in game and they together made great games. On their own they both suck ass and are really incompetent. Just look at Rage, how soulless can game be, it's just like some game engine demo.
>>318381179
bhop was gay as fuck even if satisfying to perform.I'd rather Tribes were back
Why didn't they make it openworld? It's bethesda after all and nobody cares about railshooters anymore.
DOOM reboot still plays it waaay too straight.
I looked at that Doom footage and felt fucking nothing. It had DOOM stuff in it, but it all felt like checking boxes. Like a bunch of middle-aged men saying "Well I THINK this is what DOOM is".
DOOM isn't a fucking hell level, it isn't a chainsaw, hell it isn't even a double barreled shotgun. DOOM is a fucking state of mind. It can only come out of the deranged head of a giant manchild still stuck in a 12 year olds mind.. DOOM isn't rad if the people making DOOM don't even feel it's rad.
I'd rather see DOOM try something absolutely crazy and fail spectaculary then this safe, by the numbers reboot.
>>318381254
Doom has the console peasants who will never know the feeling of making improbable headshots.
>>318381481
this looks like a pasta but I actually agree
>>318381481
Are there ANY games that have tried something absolutely crazy and not been worth playing?
>>318369814
Yeah.
>>318381926
Daikatana.
>>318382073
Shit, good point.
>>318374051
Fuck why did they make it like this
>>318381481
The upcoming Bedshitter game looks like Doom-flavored (artificially, mind) Halo designed by the Gears Of War art dept.
Subjective comment: it feels insincere and somewhat cynical; like they decide we the players never gave a shit about doom so they're allowed to use the name and some signature likenesses to sell a cookie cutter current flavor-of-the-month gameplay elemented contextual actioned console shooter.
No buy. Probably won't waste the bandwidth either. Shit doesn't feel Doom, just seems someone who saw a video of it on an old cd-rom decided to remake what they could recall from memory.
>>318382737
Yeah, when the guy presenting DOOM at E3 didn't even have the balls to say fuck on stage you know it was bad.
Todd Howard even proceeded to do later so clearly there wasn't a problem from Bethesda's PR perspective.
>>318373547
>demons don't exist
>>318379202
And this faggot isn't 18 yet, MODS
>>318373451
Brutal Doom doesn't turn all levels into linear corridors. Doom 4 is just doing the same thing Shadow Warrior and Wolfenstein did.
>>318369814
It's probably gonna be like The New Order - a by-the-numbers cinematic FPS with some meaningless RPG upgrades and linear levels
>>318379091
Shadow Warrior was kinda shit if you compare it to the original. It was slower, had way more bullet sponge enemies, the weapons were gimped hard and the levels were linear as fuck.
Let me guess, fami
The consoles will ruin the franchise.
DOOM 4 wil come and go multiplayer judging from the alpha is quake 3 minus the bunnyhopping + halo 5
singleplayer looks like it's going in the same direction as painkiller or flying wild hog games some other things are questionable like enemies dropping ammo and health...
console fags will probably get a kick out of the snap level editor but it's no substitute for doombuilder
>>318386404
bought this the other day after so many people talk about it being the best shooter in years and was pretty disappointed way too much cut scene story nonsense it also took me 30 fucking hours to download
>>318386697
can't expect it to be like the original it was still good though flying wild hog do what they do best
>>318388514
Serious Sam 3 manages to be like the original, so I don't see why all these other shooters can't
>>318388918
>>318388918
If it weren't for the filename, someone seeing it for the first time, being asked to guess what the game was, wouldn't have "Doom" approaching the forebrain.
>>318388918
>>318389112
What he hell, this is literally just Gaylo.
>>318389112
>>318389246
>>318389262
yeah if you didn't already know it was doom it could easily pass for halo or killzone...
>>318389095
they could just remake the original doom layout with epic™ next gen™ grafix™ i mean this mod does a pretty good job of it www.moddb.com/mods/classic-doom-3
>>318389486
this is ps4 footage from youtube btw it's 60fps on consoles apparently
>>318389486
Honestly I wouldn't mind DOOM 1 and 2 being remade in a modern engine provided it doesn't lose any of the original's colorful environments.
>>318373547
>demons don't exist
Ok, too much /v/ for me today, bye guys.
>Weapon wheel
Just end my life.
