Is it just me or is Fallout 1 boring as fuck?
>exit the vault
>do odd jobs in Shady Sands, move on to Junk Town
>do odd jobs there, move on to the Hub
>kill a deathclaw
>go to the Necropolis because word is a water chip is in the area
>"Repair de pump, 'uman, and maybe we 'tink about givin' our chip"
>can't repair it
does this game even get fun
nope
>>318342918
No. Skip 1 and play fallout 2.
Fallout 1 is the only fallout game with a compelling story. your entire tribe will die if you don't succeed and you have to watch the time count down.
Someone put all their points into combat skills.
>does this game even get fun
motherfucker, do you think we played games for fun back in the day?
just get the fuck out. get off my lawn you goddamn kid
>>318342918
You can just take the chip and leave.
>>318342918
I wish Fallout 1 were better executed, because I really like the Master plot.
>>318342918
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW
>>318343323
But then I condemn an entire town of ghouls to die!
The hub was my favorite city between both 1 & 2, never felt like we had as much of a main trading place in 2, which in its own right is fine.
I have a predilection towards going melee in Fallout games, because it means I can go through without having to worry about ammo constraints and selling said ammo for extra profit.
And then Fallout 1 gives you the fucking Cathedral mission.
>>318343498
They're ghouls they should be purged regardless
>>318343205
You are confusing 1 and 2.
>>318342918
Depends on individual tastes anon. The old iso CRPG gaming is not for everyone. And it needs to be approached with the right mindset.
It is akin to Dwarf Fortress in the sense that the fun is where you choose to find it.
You might like F2 better as there is arguably more to it than F1. Though people still argue over which is the better story.
>>318343498
Then maybe you should learn how to repair their shit or find someone who can.
Nah it's a lot of fun.
Inventory system was shit though. How come no one mentions how poorly designed that was? An archaic, clunky mess, even for 97. Didn't even fix it in Fallout 2.
>>318343498
Don't worry. Bethesda retconned that Ghouls don't need to eat or drink provided they are trapped in a fridge. They will be fine as long as they can find some fridges.Seriously fuck Pete Hines. Cunt has no place in PR.
>>318342918
lol
>>318344116
Not really related but this always gives me a chuckle.
>>318343868
The clunkiness is honestly what's killing it for me.
>having to run to the map edge to fuck off outta places, and you can't just click it if it's too far away (maybe I'm missing something here)
>shooting once then doing dick bupkis with my remaining 4 AP, wish I took 10 agility, I guess there's a way to increase it though
>shots doing wildly different amounts of damage, 70 damage crits or 6 damage scratch for a headshot
but fuck it I'm gonna boot it up again for the twentieth time
>>318344116
hey atleast I talked past the mutants
>>318343904
>>318344426
that's actually hilarious
>>318344689
Get Bonus Rate of Fire, makes attacking cost 1 AP less.
Action Boy helps too.
>>318342918
play fo2 and tactics
fo1 is shit and its the meme fallout
>>318344689
Sounds like it is doing a perfect job of simulating a PnP RPG. But I do agree that the interface and some of the mechanics are dated at this point.
As much as I would love a proper HD remake with updated UI, I don't trust it not to be fucked up. Or not have people's political agendas change things because it makes them uncomfortable. Like killing children for example.
I would play the shit out of a follow up to NV using an iso engine like F2, but with updated interface and mechanics.
>>318342918
It's just you. Not your fault, though. You're probably 16.
>>318344689
Turbo Plasma Rifle only needs 4 AP to fire and is the best weapon in the game.
>>318342918
its my favorite fallout ... played it back in 1998 ... it was a big experience for me
>>318342918
>>can't repair it
One of the ghouls literally gives you three fixing skill books if you find the spare parts.
>>318345458
>oh hey thats a cute gi-
>scroll down
i swear 4chan was made to make faggots out of heterosexuals
>>318343205
The fuck are you on, the time limit is almost meaningless considering you can get the chip in no time at all.
Yeah, if you don't finish fast enough than more and more settlements will fall to the Master's army but even if you play it as slow as fuck you'll be fine.
Fallout 1 is probably the most overrated of the series, it's alright at best but it's only above 3 and 4 in terms of quality.
>>318345787
So much for multiple ways to solve a problem.
I thought it was a hell of a lot better than any of the other games.
Doesn't jerk me around with a tutorial or any stupid shit, time limit has consequences, by the time I got to the ghoul town they had already been massacred.
>>318345787
hey man how am I supposed to know
the junk is some camouflaged shit on the ground in some sewers, and I assumed I just don't get back to the NPC until the job is done (unless this is some other random butt fuck ghoul)
>>318346013
>Fallout 1 is probably the most overrated of the series
Fallout 3 is easily the most overrated in the series. Casuals love it, and review sites praise it as the best game ever, even though it's the worst Fallout.
Come on now.
>>318346047
>need something fixed
>why do I need to repair it
what the fuck do you expect
OP, just play Fallout 4. You'd probably love it, middle schooler.
>>318346115
>the junk is some camouflaged shit on the ground in some sewers
I guess so, it's literally named "Junk" and when he said under the water shed, I thought he meant the vault, so I guess I can see why you mixed that up.
>and I assumed I just don't get back to the NPC until the job is done
Anon... he specifically says to come back with the parts.
>>318346047
I feel sorry for anyone that ever has to GM a PnP RPG for you.
>>318346047
There are. You can just not fix it. Canonically that city dies anyway.
>>318346428
>Anon... he specifically says to come back with the parts.
damn it
>>318346134
It's overrated among the Fallout community.
They only see black and white, 1 is the best game of all time while 3 is pure shit in every regard. 1 is definitely not THAT good and honestly is just barely above 3 and only because if it weren't for the original effort that it took to make it we wouldn't have the series to begin with.
You see I wouldn't waste my time trying to play FO1 or 2, because every other older game that /v/ has recommended has been terrible; ie Deus Ex, Ocarina of time, countless others
Basically unless you have nostalgia goggles, these games suck
>get FO1 to try because I liked FO3 and /v/ said 1 and 2 are good, so why not start at the beginning
>load it up
>kinda clunky but whatever
>try to kill the rats right at the start
>kill 2 and I'm already half dead
>only have like 2 stimpacks or whatever, don't want to waste them
>run out of the vault dodging the killer rats
>make it to shady sands
>not sure what to do, some guy wants me to kill radscorpions
>could barely kill rats, how can I kill rad scorpions? barely have any bullets left anyway
>leave shady sands and go to vault 15 or whatever
>get stopped in some gay random encounter
>6 fucking preying mantises surround me
>kill me in seconds, couldn't shoot one of them
>reload, beeline it to vault 15
>get in
>fucking mole rat hiding behind a wall I can't see 1 shots me
Am I just bad at this game? What was I doing wrong?
>>318346696
Nah.
>>318346115
You know you can hold shift to highlight items?
>>318347019
What was your SPECIAL load out? Did to tag small guns?
>>318347019
either your end or agi seems to be shit
>>318347097I do now.
>>318346641
Anyone who seriously tries to rank the Fallouts instead of acknowledging that the Bethesda ones are just a different style of game because they don't understand the setting or what internal consistency is, is just being a douche.
3/4 and 1/2/NV are different styles of game. They can coexist. The problem arises when Bethesda try to tell us that they are totally the same sort of game we used to love.
I can have fun with 3, but my immersion is ruined by their lore issues and lack of internal consistency and logic. I have yet to try F4 but from everything I have seen it has strayed even further from the path of what Fallout is supposed to be about. Apparently somewhat fun as an FPS, but a god awful RPG.
I can live with people saying they prefer 3/4 due to their personal preferences, up until they start to rag on 1/2/NV for being different or just old. I'd love for us to be able to be one big happy community who just want to enjoy a Fallout like setting in their own way, but people always seem to need to be divisive.
>>318347019
Read the manual, there's a way to highlight all enemies in the area.
>>318342918
Fallout 1 was released before 2000 so obviously it's a 10/10
>>318346641
3 is actually a worse game in literally every regard, but nice try.
>>318347120
I don't remember, I think so. But I only had like 50 bullets and I couldn't hit the damn rats with my pistol so I switched to my knife. Then literally every swing was a miss, and the rats hit me for 2 - 3 damage a turn.
>>318345801
>i swear 4chan was made to make faggots out of heterosexuals
anon there's something I want to tell you...
>>318347369
>manuals in 2015
what a meme
>>318347746
Better than a tutorial.
>>318343203
That is no better. Fallout became god tier on Fallout 3 and beyond. Only /v/ shitposters think 1 and 2 are better.
>>318347332
I agree with you 100% I love every single game in the series, with New Vegas in my opinion being the best of them all.
Lore issues don't bug me too much but I can see how it can be irritating, I mean it's obvious Bethesda doesn't care much for the story, as they stated Jet was a pre war drug but I can still look past all of that.
3 and 4 are not good "Fallout" games, but they are good games in general. Rough around the edges but come patches and mods they actually turn out to be pretty damn fun.
>>318342918
Just rifle around in the sewers until you find their vault.
Also, fuck those guys.they slaughtered the ghouls just for shits and giggles.
>Overseer tells you that you're the first person who they send out to the surface since the bombs fell
>get out
>near the vault entrance you can find a dead body with a Vault 13 jumpsuit on it
>>318347710
You werent doing Aimed shots, were you? Unless you do Body Shots, they aren't worth it early on.
>>318343498
You means the six ghouls that are still alive? Five of which have gone glowey and nuts?
>>318347856
true, but why not have the manual in-game in a menu
dark cloud 1 and 2 did it, and im sure countless others have too
>>318344116
I distinctly remember trying every single dialog choice with the mutants and I could not get past them.
>>318343868
>tfw your 50+ stimpacks are at the very bottom of your massive inventory and the only way to bring them back up to the top is dropping them and picking them all back up one at a time
>>318345253but I use small arms, anon
>>318348216
I decided to boost my repair and fix their shitty ass pump anyhow, but you're right. Stingy bastards won't buy water, they just want to decompose in some sewers? My vault is much more deserving.
>>318348313
Your character must have been too retarded, son. But those mutants are so dumb, I wouldn't be surprised if having low intelligence gets you by for free.
>>318348296
Because the game was already pretty huge for the time and making it even bigger with a boatload of text would be cumbersome? Also because it's easier to consult a manual sitting next to your computer than open up a menu in-game on your low res monitor.
>>318348313
Tricking Harry to let you past is a speech check, if you fail the check he takes you to the lieutenant.
>>318344689
>having to run to the map edge to fuck off outta places, and you can't just click it if it's too far away (maybe I'm missing something here)
Yeah, go to settings and set pathfinding to max. The original range is for the old resolution.
>>318348313
Harry can be bullshitted with Speech.
If you don't feel like fighting or putting points into it, just save scum until you convince him you're a robot.
>>318346134
we all know Fallout 3 is the same thing as GTA3
without it nobody would ever know about Fallout or GTA
we dont like it because it ruin our secret club
>>318348453
So take the Tag! perk and tag Energy Weapons. Small Arms are good early game but can't compare to Energy Weapons in FO1 late game.
In FO2 Small Guns can get you through the whole thing thanks to Gauss weapons.
>>318347997
The saddest part is that F3/4 could be more proper just by changing the retarded timeline that Bethesda put them on. If it was a relatively short time after the bombs, say 50-60 years, it would make sense that there is still shit everywhere and no real civilization yet.
Or they could have just done a reboot and keep everyone happy since then it doesn't conflict with the established IP of yore. But yeah they just don't care. And judging off Pete's antics potentially hold actual contempt for their fans.
>>318348453
I think my character had 4 int
I think you either have to be rock bottom retarded or pretty smart to get past with a speech check.
>>318348536
>>318348504
I actually got past that a while ago. I just managed to bait them all out of the building and then run by. I was just wondering what you had to do to talk your way out.
>>318342918
>not bullshitting them that you'll fix it and just running off with the chip
Fallout 1 is pretty bare bones in terms of content and is focused primarily on the main story, you'll probably like FO2 more since you can fuck around a lot more in that game like in the newer FOs
I fucking love this game but by God it's hard for me to play it.
First playthrough: Reached Hubtown, lost interest pretty quick.
Second playthrough: Got kicked out of Lost Hills (so dumb).
Third playthrough: Keep crashing at Mariposa. Really a shame, I had a feeling I'd make it this time.Anyone experienced anything similar at the Mariposa first floor?
>>318342918
>killing a deathclaw before you get the chip
yeah right
>>318348735
Pete's problem is the same problem of all managers under Zenimax's umbrella. People who've been there for 10 years and have still no idea who they're selling to nor what they're making.
>>318348347
Why not just place them in a container and loot the whole stack that way?
>>318343868
They improved it a little by letting you use your mouse's scroll wheel and adding a Take All button, but yeah it's horrible.
>>318348821
FO2 with the restorations mod seems like it never fucking ends. I was in New Reno for fucking hours alone.
>>318348881
Isaved scummedand got lucky with two crits to the eyes.
I thought I missed better weapons somewhere and just wanted to brute force it to not have to go back.
>>318348058
Holysheet, I never noticed that.
That son of a bitch.
>>318348956
Because I'm a fucking moron who never thought about that. Are there even any sacks in Fallout 2? I came across them all the time in 1 but I don't think I've ran across any in 2 yet despite being nearly done with the game.
>>318347097
Isn't that only in Fallout 2?
>>318349187
FUCK I'M EVEN MORE RETARDED I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ITEM POUCHES NOT CONTAINERS
>have to kill the warehouse deathclaws
>unarmed character
Am I fucked?
I can't even get that far, I get fucked up the ass by mole rats thanks to me missing every damn shot. V.A.T.S doesn't really help that much either, It's just an extra chance to miss as opposed to just straight attacking.
>>318349318
Why would you play unnarmed in Fallout 1? It is so much better in Fallout 2. Only thing Fallout 1 does better is let you take Fast Shot with unarmed, getting your attacks down to 1 AP.
>>318349318
You should be fine if you have a power fist and cripple one of their claws in your first or second attack.
>>318348058
>>318349028
>>318349413
>Fast Shot with Unarmed
>Attacks are 1 AP
>Go full Str, Agi, and End
>Can literally go full muaamudamuda
Why WOULDN'T you play unarmed in Fallout 1?
>>318349318
Hell no, Unarmed is by far the most overpowered skill in the game.
>>318348735
Fifty or sixty years after the bombs would be everything is still on fire and irradiated. It would have been like running around on mercury.
>>318348953
Yeah I read that the other day in another Fallout thread. It is unsurprising. But one has to wonder just how far you can go before nepotism won't save you.
If Notch ever does anything with his vast money pile and wants to leave a real legacy that isn't just Minecraft, he should start a fund to but up IPs to protect them companies like this. It could be sustainable by licensing the IPs under some guidelines about respecting the IP and fans etc, and no re-license to offenders. Won't happen of course but I can dream.
I wonder what the next IP they fuck up will be.
Fallout 1 does feel rather clunky and empty when compared to 2 but the first time I ever played it I was totally engrossed in the world.
It's also alot darker than Fallout 2 and has the best damn big bad of the whole series.
The Master's dialogue scene and visting The Glow were the two sweetest experiences of the game.
>>318342918
congratulations you now realize that /v/ blindly worships old games that werent even good when they came out
>>318349187
>>318349272
Not sure but I recall there being one in Modoc, down the shitter, near the molerat.
>>318349883
>visiting the Glow
Was it supposed to be that special?
I literally went in and out in under a minute cause I thought if I stayed any longer I'd be fucked by the radiation.
>>318349909
>HEY GUYS I DIDN'T READ THE THREAD!
>>318349909
Fallout 1 is a good game though.
It's just not for 18 year olds with short attention spans who want to rush through the game.
>>318349738
You mean like Hiroshima is now?
But seriously I am just giving an example. Someone with proper knowledge of radiation and its effects can correct it to suit. All I am saying is that 150+, and after seeing the earlier games that were already recovering and in some cases flourishing, it just doesn't gel that things would be like they are in the Beth games.
>>318350134
i was 15 when it came out and i didn't think it was good. i thought it was somewhat unique but not good
game gets worshipped in every fallout 4 thread, really tiring, especially considering 95% of the people who reference it never played it.
And now you see these threads every single day because of FO4. "wait, didn't you guys say this game was great? it's not fun" every day
>>318350146
fallout is a fantasy universe. radiation wreaks unpredictable/unusual/fantastical effects on the landscape.
i dunno why people bring up hiroshima and shit. it's a video game. it's a fantasy universe. look at the glowing sea. it's obvious that nuclear bombs in fallout fantasy cause much different nature of destruction than IRL.
>>318350121
Well Fallout 1 was my first Fallout game played back in 2002 so I didn't have any other 'deadly radiation' experiences in games to compare it to.
I had also just been really into reading about the Chernobyl disaster and had this weird kind of reverence about nuclear wastelands. I guess it was kind of a time and a place for me so really memorable
>>318349883
2 seemed big to me at first until I started noticing that most of the towns and cities you enter only have like two quests in them. New Reno is probably the only one with an actual decent amount of stuff to do but even then you pretty much locked with the mob boss you decided to work for on that file. Personally I'd rather just have something the size of 1 but with more quests in each town instead of having it all spread incredibly thin like 2.
>>318350121
The Glow is one of the biggest dungeons in the game. It's mostly safe while the power is off due to all the robots being offline. Best to kill them before you turn the power on.
Pop a couple rad-x and you can get through the whole Glow without getting much Rad poisoning. Just don't play Chess with the super computer.
>>318350351
Go to bed Pete.
>>318350531
Vault City has a bunch of quests too.
>>318350531
Two just has more content though. There are alot more int, cha and speech checks and multiple ways to do most quests.
>>318350121
You only need two Rad-X for 100% radiation resistance in FO1.
>>318350615
Shieeet, I didn't even know it had more than the first level as I just went there to collect what I needed for the Brotherhood and left
Now I gotta go back and check that shit out!
>>318342918
this is the same as every other fallout
Fallout 1 is just too limited in scope for it to really hold the attention of people who are used to modern sprawling RPGs.
Fallout 2 has a much wider variety of things to do and ways to play, even if it's less cohesive it will hold your attention longer.
>>318346425
>game is shit but its cool because its old :DD
is /v/ filled with scarf wearing hipsters?
>>318350146
>You mean like Hiroshima is now?
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-atomic-and-vs-nuclear-bomb/
>>318350991
>reveal the existence of impossible mission to /v/ at least 5 times
>game is ancient
>game is survival horror
>game is elite hard difficult
>game is inherently skill-based
>/v/ has never played the game
one day i'm gonna make the hipsters catch on to impossible mission
>>318350883
The Glow is 6 layers deep. Full of good loot and a massive amount of background on FEV and the setting is found there.
I think it might actually be mandatory to convince the Master to off himself, but I might be remembering. The Brotherhood's research might be enough.
>>318351338
you only need the brotherhoods research
>>318351338
The only thing you need to convince The Master is a speech skill around 100% I think and the The Brotherhood research. You're probably mistaking the bogus quest you're sent by them you have to do to get in with something that you actually need to convince The Master.
>>318351494
Nah, there is a disk there with FEV data, going over the developments of it and mentioning the sterility and the reason why it happened.
It's been too long since I played, I guess I was miss remembering that being needed too.
>>318351089
That didn't really tell me anything about the differences in the radiation caused.
I would be genuinely interested to read something about that if there is a difference. I do know a cobalt bomb is pretty much game over for all of us though. But my understanding is that is due to ts radioactive penetration. so even underground bunkers aren't a safeguard.
>>318350146
More like Fukushima, Hanford, and Chernobyl right next to each other.
Hiroshima and other nuke sites benefit from the surrounding area being clean and that affects the reduces the radiation of the area, like a sort of reverse contamination. In a bombardment you no longer have that 'clean environment' anywhere anymore and its radiation sources right next each other. In that case I imagine you'd see deterioration like in lab conditions and areas being completely uninhabitable for many years.
>>318342918
Yes it's boring as fuck Anon, don't play them and go install Fallout 3. There's even a giant robot that throw nukes, be entertained.
>>318351750
You get the holodisk to convince the master from Vree not from The Glow. Though I never explored the glow beyond that quest to get into the brotherhood so maybe there is some other holodisk I'm unaware of.
>>318349738
Canonically the radiation levels normalized in most of the US about 2 days after the bombs fell.
Of course, the Black Rain still fucked everything up.
>>318352212
I meant this one:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/FEV_experiment_disk
>>318342918
The old fallout games are shit compared to modern day standard. People that say otherwise need to take off their nostalgia-goggles
>>318352360
Yeah that's something completely optional and not mandatory to convince the master into blowing himself up.
Out of the two, the first game is better in my opinion. It has a very strong narrative. It may seem a bit clunky and outdated by today's standards, but the storyline was great, it had the right tone for its setting and the villain was very memorable. I'd appreciate the second way more if it wasn't littered with so many pop culture references. It goes out of its way to pull you out of the world with tons of silly shit like npcs referencing Star Wars, your own character calling that dwarf stuck in the well Short Round or a Supermutant casting magic out of nowhere. It's all over the place without any consistency. Great game, but it's not what I expected from it.
>>318348058
Also you find a ghoul in the Followers basement that was sent out to find the water chip years before.
>>318343498
ghouls don't need food or water remember? tbqh family do you even Fallout?
>>318352668
The pop culture references I didn't mind so much since it was mainly contained to easter eggs. It's all the fourth wall breaking jokes and just plain goofy shit like a chess playing radscorpion that tries to kill you if you beat it that I found to be the problem. As far as the pop culture references go the only ones I really found to be incredibly in your face were the Hubologists.
Is it just me or is Fallout 3 boring as fuck?
>exit the vault
>do odd jobs in Megaton, move on to DC Ruins
>do odd jobs there, move on to Rivet City
>kill a deathclaw
>go to the Vault 112 because word is Dad is in the area
>"I'm a nazi scientist in a little girl's body and you should kill these people for my enjoyment"
>my only options are kill or kill
does this game even get fun
>>318346013
>Fallout 1 is probably the most overrated of the series
That would be New Vegas. People actually think that piece of shit is on par with the original games.
>Playing Fallout 1 or 2
Don't you guys realize that the Fallout series was meant to be an FPS anyway?
The first two games are messy attempts at isometric RPG genre, and even with that good of a concept, the execution just ruined it.
Anyone who likes the first two has a shitty taste in games.
>>318353052
did you think that was clever? did you have a big smirk as you hit submit, knowing you intellectually and irrevocably destroyed OP? did you enjoy seeing your post pop up as the page auto refreshed, knowing that soon OP would read it and become fully delitized and loving it with a cream cheese and bologna tongue, thanks to your supreme wit?my point is that youre a faggot
I'm not going to lie, I tried to play Fallout 1 a few years back but found the controls unbearable to continue. Since Fallout 4 came out I thought I'd give Fallout 1 another try, and after I forced myself to get used to the controls I gotta say the game was really fun and immersive. I enjoyed the game a lot, especially how you could approach different problems in different ways. For example I went run and gun a lot but I found myself talking my way out of many different situations-- including the final boss even though I had a super powerful gun and power armor. The voice actors they had for this game is also very impressive. Like seriously, Tony Jay, fucking Megabyte is in this shit? God damn.
Overall, it was a good two weeks I spent playing this game throughout the night. Very enjoyable but I don't know if I'll continue with the series. I'm thinking of giving New Vegas a try though.
>>318353324
0/10
Is it just me or is Fallout: New Vegas boring as fuck?
>exit the doc's house
>do odd jobs in Goodsprings, move on to Primm
>do odd jobs there, move on to Novac
>kill a legionary
>go to the Strip because word is Benny is in the area
>"2000 caps to get in"
>not enough caps
does this game even get fun
>>318353590I actually just want to make variants for every game to be honest.
>>318353886OP here, I thought it was funny.
>>318353886
Do some jobs in Freeside.
>mfw Tactics: BoS was great-no one to play with
>>318353660
>controls unbearable
>you literally only use the mouse
c'mon now
>>318353886
>Not >Kill a Cazador
>>318342918
>Is it just me
Yes.
>mfw all these peons don't realize that Fallout Shelter is the best game of the series
Hahaha, little roaches, maybe one day you will transcend.
I just started Fallout too. I found a Nuka Cola truck on the way to my second expedition into Vault 15 with over 5000 caps in it. Boy am I glad I forgot to pick up that rope.
>>318354425
It was a fun game to play with a mate in the room. Taking turns playing when you have to savescum.
Is it just me or is Fallout 2 boring as fuck?
>exit Arroyo
>do odd jobs in Klamath, move on to Den
>do odd jobs there, move on to Redding
>kill a Wanamingo
>go to the Vault City because word is the knowledge of the holy 13 is in the area
>"All outsiders should just be exterminated especially ghouls."
>get kicked out for disagreeing
does this game even get fun
Gotta be better than this downgrade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Pswl4ySJ8
Guess we shoulda seen it coming..
wait, Can you really finish the game with smallgun?
>>318355521
How come you can't dismember corpses in Fallout 4 like you could in 3 and NV?
>>318354467
Yeah because constantly switching between investigate/action mode, movement mode and attack mode is in no way annoying when you could realistically do all three at the same time and many games even in the same period did.
>people shit talking FO1
>praising FO2
Asinine. 1 has a far superior story, more consistent lore, isn't goofy as fuck, and has better designed gameplay. 2 feels like fucking fan fiction by comparison. Your dog is a ghost, aliens are everywhere, there's references all over the place, you're a nearly retarded tribal and yet people are willing to follow you.
FO2 is garbage.
>>318355198
>>318355793
Oh, I also forgot that you can't interact with objects if they're too close to you if the object is supposed to be in the foreground (and you get that little vision bubble around you). I'd say that falls into the "annoying controls" bin as well.
Also the fact that I didn't know you could straight up just use some items from the menu. For example I tried to use a flare but it just lit the flare, I had to equip the flare and then throw/place it somewhere for it to have an effect. Same with First Aid Boxes, you have to equip them and then use them on yourself for it to work. So I thought I had to equip stimpacks and use them similarly, by activating them and selecting myself. You know how many APs I wasted this way before I realized I could just use stimpacks straight from the menu? How many fights did I survive by the skin of my teeth because it took so long for me to win by opening my inventory mid battle, equipping a stim pack, and then using the stim pack (which erroneously reads AP2 when it is actually 4)? What the fuck.
No, seriously the controls for this game take time to get used to. It's not as easy as just clicking around with the mouse.
>>318356046
I know anon. But we just wanted to have some fun. I wouldn't do that if I was playing by myself.
>>318348563
This
Actually it was the opposite for me.
>play and love FO3
>want to see what FO1 is like
>first CRPG ever
>it's pretty good
>play a lot of it
>love it
>start FO2
>just fall off from playing it
I figured maybe because I had kinda burned myself out on FO1 and didn't feel like starting 2 right away despite hearing it was so much better.
It's great but I always just kinda stop playing after I get to The Hub or what ever the first town is. When I played FO1 it had charm and it was new to me but now that I've already seen it that part doesn't wow me as much.
I guess I just need to power through and actually get past the first set of quests.
>>318342918
Can you enjoy the game for what it is or can you not?
>>318355882
The fact that the vault dweller let his people descend into a savage tribe in like 2 generations always seemed really dumb to me. Dude came from educated vault and had seen the world.
When I play FO2 I speed through the terrible beginning (temple of trials/shit village) and then start roleplaying as a drifter once I hit the first town.
>>318356880
well I continued onward and have to kill the master
and I probably will eventually
>>318355793
>movement mode and attack mode is in no way annoying when you could realistically do all three at the same time and many games even in the same period did.
Those other games didn't use the same action points system for combat as Fallout did though. It would be even more annoying to accidentally pick up an item instead of doing another action causing you to waste your turn.
>>318357040
Christ that story in 2
>"go fuck off to save us for no reason"
>wander around aimlessly because you weren't given a specific method to achieve your goal
>"oh no we got fucked up while u were gone why didn't u save us? :("
>>318356859
>I guess I just need to power through and actually get past the first set of quests.
I totally recommend that because the first town in 2 is garbage. The Den is when you start making the more impacful moral decisions of your character like whether or not you wanna be a slaver.
>>318343868
>first playthrough
>went as a str luk guy for crit melees
>find out i can get rich with the casinos
>grind that shit
>end up having to drag 999 caps for 10 times everytime I want to trade
>>318357447
>>318357278
This is pretty true, the whole beginning of 2 is slow and feels kinda disjointed. I found the middle 80% (between The Den and the bottom left town) was full freeform/sidequesting glory.
>>318347019
Uh you must be fucking retarded because I just started playing it yesterday and I killed the rats and lost like 3 hp total because they miss 90% of the time. Also, mole rats can't one-shot you.
Also, you couldn't possibly be out of bullets in Shady Sands if all you did was kill 2 rats, the game starts you with like 80 rounds not counting the loot from the corpse outside the vault.
Basically, youre a lying sack of shit or made your endurance 0 and you're a fuckwit.
The Master is cool
>>318357040
The Vault Dwellers themselves left after you either fail to stop the rebellion or kill the Overseer, only maybe half stayed in the Vault so getting the Water Chip was redundant.
Plus, Fallout 1/2 were kinda shooting more for that weird religious/eastern spiritualism thing with towns like Arroyo, Shady Sands, Necropolis, etc.
>>318358173
He's retarded
I literally played FO1 for the first time yesterday and could kill Radscorpions at level one with just the ten mil no problem
>>318351149
my dad played it on his c64 when i was young. i could never beat it. some years ago around christmas we got the c64 out and he beat that shit in an hour in one go. i was impressed.
>Ah, another visitor.
>Get him my robots
>>318358753
Especially if you grab Ian at Shady Sands it becomes so easy.
>>318351149
I'd believe you if you said something like Project Firestart, but there's nothing survival horror about Impossible Mission.
What's a good build for someone who wants to be kind of a scientist with some survival and guns training?
Playing it now, it's actually not too bad. I was kind of expecting it feel more like a world though.
>>318343868
Trying to get caps is a pain in the ass if you're too far above or below 999. Makes trying hock off gear a chore.
>>318348058
Damn, never made that connection.
>>318343281
Why yes, we did.
>>318359051
I ran into radscorps just wandering around before reaching Shady Sands and still had no issues
>>318359082
In which game? Fallout 1 Science and Outdoorsman is worthless
>>318342918
>go to this place
>do shit
>move on
>rinse repeat
You just described every RPG ever. Try Minecraft
>>318355638
yes, easily
with a little save scum, you can get advanced power armor and gauss gun real early
and gauss use small guns
>>318353886
Is it just me or is Fallout 4 boring as fuck?
>exit the vault
>get power armor
>get a minigun
>kill a deathclaw and a legion of raiders
>do odd jobs for the rest of time
>>318359238
Thanks man, I'll have real fun pandering to my autism by building pointless structures.
>>318358753
Were you the anon that made the thread yesterday trying to get /v/ to help with your playthrough?If so what happened in the end man? The thread archived and you disappeared.
>>318359360
no problem
>>318359215
Alright, good to know. Talking about 1. What would be good then?
After, thinking of going a goofy fucker for 2, full luck and unarmed. Should be fun.
>>318357447
yeah, klamath is basically the newb exposition town, to learn some of the basic setting of F2
>>318344689
>doing dick bupkis with my remaining 4 ap
just press the fucking "turn" button dude it ends your turn
>having to run to the map edge
did you not check the settings?
are these the people who play videogames now?
>>318358080
the tutorial/temple of trial suck bad and repel lots of player that would love the rest of the game
>>318359658
What the fuck is a video game?
>>318359663
I'll never understand the trouble people had with that
If you didn't have 10 ap, you were most likely fucked. to deal with this, you go back to the character creator and make your agility 10
I guess some people are just mouth-breathing troglodytes
>>318347467
Nah
>>318359520
Fallout 1 the babbu's first playthrough is
S - 5 (5 Strength is the baseline you want to not suffer penalties from many guns)
P - 8
E - 8
C - 6 (Charisma itself is useless, but a base skill of 6 is enough to let have options in the early quests)
I - 8
A - 10 (You want this to have as much AP as possible, since that determines your turns in combat)
L - 2
Take Fast Shot and Gifted as your perks, Gifted gives you the extra SPECIAL points you need. Fast Shot just makes combat less clunky, aimed shots aren't all that important unless you're going for a crit/Jinx build and with 2 Luck you're not.
Tag skills are Guns, Speech and Lockpick. You can get skills over 100% and Tagged Skills level very quickly. If you want to use Energy Weapons or Big Guns you can put those points in during later levels, you can't get anything but regular guns for most of the game unless you sequence break
>>318360154
>2 luck
>CRITICAL FAILURE
>CRITICAL FAILURE
>CRITICAL FAILURE
>MISS
>MISS
>>318350257
>implying it's not a minority of shitposters who either didn't play the game because they love Fallout 4 or falseflaggers who want to make it seem like Fallout 4 fags really are this fucking retarded (which I hope they aren't)
>>318360154
Oh, starter tips:
Tell everyone where you and your family live, nothing will go wrong
You can't control your party members for shit, so get all of them together and give them guns that shoot lots of bullets. Flawless strategy
Spend as much time as possible wandering the wastelands time doesn't matter this is a videogame
Keep your guns on you when you enter settlements because only pussies play by the rules
kill midgets
>>318360353
>kill midgets
honestly this is just good life advice in general
>>318360305
Critical Failures only happen when you Miss a shot. With ten AP and Fast Shot if you're ever out of range to miss a shot you're playing the fucking game wrong
>>318360154
>2 luck
wouldn't that fuck me over?
>>318360446
How close to I need to be?
>>318348847
my first and only save got corrupted in the military base, I felt pretty bad.
Had to look up the ending on Youtube after that.
>>318360353
Oh shit, one or two more things:
Take the perk Action Boy WHENEVER possible, it gives you more AP even if you're already capped out
In order to do things like Sneak, Hack, Fix things, Steal, and give stuff to NPCs you need to hit that little SKILLODEX button. It's very obtuse and weird
>>318360154
Dump some of that endurance and charisma and put it into luck and you have a far superior build.
>>318342918
>Is it just me or is Fallout 1 boring as fuck?
bait
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>replying
Fuck off.
>>318360605
You see your shot percentage when you're clicking on an enemy to shoot
And honestly, Critfails are pretty rare outside of Jinxed builds. I've played through the entire game with that build and on average only been Critfailed once - and when it happens it will usually just blow up some garbage 10mm or Shotgun I already have multiple of. If you're that worried about it then just don't take low-percent shots with a weapon you don't want to break, changing between active weapons doesn't cost any AP
>>318360353
Oh one more thing:
Bring rope
>>318360854
Okay cool
>>318360353
>>318360660
And this is all shit I don't want
>>318360001
I hate when people say this.
>you couldn't do it? well, you're supposed to get your agi to 10!
What's the point of an RPG if I have to level up specific stats in order to proceed?
>>318360734
quality post friend
>>318360967
The Action Boy AP and Skillodex are real. The rest are retarded things new players do assume
>>318360974
what's the point of an RPG if your choices don't matter?
Take shitty skills that aren't going to help you to survive, you won't survive
>>318361102
Your choice of skill and stats shouldn't affect whether you can finish the game. It should only change your experience of it.
>>318361102
>took 9 agility
>didn't take fast shot
how fucked am I famm
>>318361197
well a diplomacy run is possible
>>318360353
>>318360660
>good advice mixed with bad advice
fantastic job anons
>>318361207
what did you take? Finesse is also acceptable, pretty much everything but Skilled is playable
Fuck it, if someone can tell me where screenshots from Fallout Fixt save to I'll start up a run and we can go through this bitch together.
I've played the game about up to the Hub but lost interest because my build was poor, so I should be able to get through the dumb stuff fast and to the interesting stuff
Anyone interested?
>>318361394
5 ST
6 PE
8 EN
1 CH
6 IN
8 AG
6 LU
tagged small guns, lockpick, speech
literally just took skilled and nothing but skilled
>>318348058
I figured that guy was banished or something.
Or was just as bad at combat as I was the first time I played through the game and died to a cave rat
>>318361558
>literally just took skilled and nothing but skilled
Nigga do you even read?
Skilled makes it so you get perks only once every 4 levels
there are only 21 total levels in the game and you won't likely get beyond level 12-15
>>318348058
There's also a random encounter with another Vault 13er who got sent out to find a Water Chip
The Overseer's bullshit becomes even funnier if you play a Retard run
>>318348681
Small guns are more than enough to beat the game with, easily. 9-10 perception plus the sniper rifle and .223 pistol, always doing eye shots will fucking annihilate anything in the game.
>>318361717
this is the important question
can I kill the Master and end his tyranny
Hoo boy
>leave vault
>go south a bit
>accosted by 5 radscorpions
am I fucked?
>>318348881
>not tagging barter and small guns and getting a sniper rifle during your first trip to the hub and annihilating everything for the rest of the game
>>318342918
Then get the fuck back to Fallout 4.
>>318361972
No, unless you're retarded
>aim shot for brain
>run away
just keep kiting them like that, assuming you have a shitty first time playing build and don't know what you're doing
keep the tails, they're used in another settlement
>>318362042
wouldn't touch that shit with a ten foot pike
do you take me for someone with no taste?
>>318342918
Filthy faggot casual go kys
>>318362064
Yeah, I got torn to shreds. Rerolling
Is it possible to kill the overseer inside the vault while he's sitting on his desk or whatever?
>>318362384
No, once you're forced to talk to him after initiating combat he shoots you for a flat 250hp
>>318362138
You're pretty good
I just beat the game myself.
Wound up with the alien blaster early game by the time I found energy ammo, I was just running around in power armor blasting the super mutants left and right.
Pretty solid game, once you get used to it. OP is just a faggot as usual.
Where's the first place I'm going to want to go? I'm just wandering around killing molerats and radscorpions and I think I'm going to run out of ammo soon
>>318361861
You can not even fight him if your speech is high enough.
>>318365661
And right as I ask that I find Shady Sands. Damn, I've tried this game a few times couple years back but I'm actually having fun now. Helps if you've actually played tabletop RPGs, makes things easier to visualize
>>318360734
Is there a good fan mod/patch that fixes bugs, like the broken quest lines?
if you don't run 10 AG 10 luck with the jinxed trait you should try it in fallout 2, it is the most ridiculous fun thing
>>318366713For a second, I thought it was doing a parody of Little Shop of Horror's Downtown.
>>318369357
That's what I'm thinking. I hear 2 has all sorts of goofy shit so I'm gonna do that, and roll unarmed. Are there any unarmed weapons?
I'm playing fallout 2 on windows 10 and the game randomly lags and freezes, is there a way to fix this? I'd try compatibility mode but it doesnt work cuz of the hi res patch
am I fucked? it wasnt so bad in fallout 1...
>>318342918
>retard didn't find the real quests in shady sands and the hub
jesus christ 2015 is fucking moronic
>>318369682
The best way of fixing anything related to Windows 10 is by installing Windows XP Noir
>>318346696
You wouldn't know a good game if it slapped it's cock on your face
Fuck, where do I get ammo? Trying to barter with people in shady sands but no one really has anythingI really like the mechanic where you type something in and they respond
>>318370010
Usually from whatever constitutes a store. Or random trader encounters. And of course looting corpses.
Ammo can be a problem early game until you can actually build up a stockpile of the type you use.
>>318370010
Pretty much any other town. You should be able to get directions to some other locations, but if not you can head south and try to find one.
>>318370406
>>318370367
yeah I heard junktown was south of shady sands, gonna head there later. That's the town with killian and the pig looking fucker, right? I have Ian with me too. Something about splitting loot
>>318342918
No. The entire fallout serie is really boring with a horrible gameplay. The only one that is enjoyable is New Vegas. But all in all the Fallout serie is the most overrated serie ever made.
>Inb4 fuck off its a classic
There are much better classics like Baldur's Gate, Torment or Ice wind Dale.
>get fo1
>install fixt patch
>full mode install
>read fucking manual
>read fixt manual
There, every newbie to Fallout will enjoy this.
>>318370481
>I have Ian with me too. Something about splitting loot
That is an odd way of saying meat shield. But to each their own I guess.
>>318370937
I'm sure we'll be fine. Gonna be bending super mutants over our power armored knees in no time I bet
I tried playing 1 2 again but i get no audio
I never had problems like this before, are there compatibility problems with win8?
>>318370996
I like the way you think friend. May you be successful in your quest to make the wastelands your bitch.
>>318350615
>Just don't play Chess with the super computer.
Why
>>318371419
Damn right. Gonna head to Junktown tomorrow, fuck mr fatass up, get paid, some rad-x and hopefully come across the glow
