>people say Bloodborne is the best Souls game
>get to this guy
Why do people praise terrible design like this? Jesus Christ.
What's the problem with him exactly?
>getting your ass kicked by the second easiest boss
>>318240238
I haven't played it so I don't know what he does to fight you but he looks cool as fuck.
sounds like someone can't handle a couple spiders.
>>318240381
It summons like 10 spider minions 3 times during the battle which can deal more then half of your hp all while the big guy spams magic. Not hard, but really tedious
>>318240238
Lore explains why this individual looks like this. Anyways, game wasnt bad i wish they would of either stuck more to the beginning of the game or rode the cosmos, alien life form angle more. The last 1/4 of the game just got stupid and to me started feeling like to much of a grind.
>>318240238
every Souls games has its fair share of shit bosses, from ancient dragon, bed of chaos and dragon god
>>318240759
and of course Rom
all you really need to do is kill the spiders though. they have low enough health to die in one or two shots at most. once you clear them out Rom is cake
HEARD THERE WAS A ROM THREAD AROUND HERE SOMEWHERE
>not liking Rom, the vacuous spider
What a fucking faggot get out!
>>318240726
It wasn't that bad. I shot the spiders and just whacked on Rom with the tonillus, I would have been disappointed if it weren't for the nice intro
>>318240238
It only took me two tries
Get gud
>>318240238
I thought Rom was a qt grill.
WAIT UNTIL THE DLC WHERE YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH LUDWIG AND HIS RNG ATTACKS LIKE I COULD PRESS BUTTONS AND I'D STILL TAKE DAMAGE I LITERALLY ENDED UP QUITTING WHEN I REALIZED THE DLC WAS ONLY FOR THE TRULY HARDCORE BLOODBORNE FANS
>>318240238
that shit looks cool.
you deserve shit like "i, i'm a demon! human eater! gahhhhh""how evil tis is!" badass designs for 14yo who want to be edgy or an antihero.
you or a bunch of amuritards just cant get into those psychological and static ambientish designs like SH2s. also thats one of the reasons why western devs havent made a good horror game.
>>318240238
You seriously need to git gud. Rom is a casual filter for scrubs like you.
>>318240238
>Rom, die geistlose Spinne
>>318240726
Not how you fight him. Put bolt paper on your weapon and just go ham on him while avoiding the little spiders. Its not that hard, since the adds attacks are all telegraphed and Rom isn't dangerous at close range.
Can anybody explain why Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls or Demon Souls?
>>318244690
LOL its funny because the text is different and it doesnt make any sense
>>318240238
He's simple when you know how.
Kill the ads then rush in and take off half his health before he teleports.
Then simply dodge to the left and back or forward while he shoots comets, and when you can get close enough to him bait him into his shitty AOE, wait, avoid, and them as run you past without being locked on take a few slashes at him, you don't even need to stop so you are never in danger of the little spiders getting you the are too slow. The only hard thing is the comets that lock onto you but like I said just dodge left and back or forward, they will only really occasionally hit you.
>>318244185
he's talking about the fight itself, not the visuals, my man
>>318244876
pve and lore/atmosphere it's arguably better. pvp-wise it's a low point in the series.
>>318240238
>Why do people praise terrible design like this?
I'm pretty sure no one has ever praised Rom.
>>318242713
Nice DSP impression but you forgot to end with I COULDA WON IF I WANTED TO!
>Play DLC
>Cleaver build so i don't stagger shit was really hard.
>Play Str/Arc build and get the Whirlgig to +10 at same level i was first
>Literally stagger Ludwig to death
>Basically stagger Laurence to death outside of his 2nd stage just bait and switching
>Living Failures are failures
>Maria killed me once because i fucked up parries like a dumbdumb
Why are strength weapons so much easier? I know its +10 but the stagger is whats making it so easy. I found the DLC legitimately difficult with a weapon that doesnt autopush through shit.
>>318242060
things change when you're granted eyes
>>318246210
Strength weapons for PVE, dex weapons for PVP, seems to be the case for every Souls game
>>318244876
Core combat is better even if its one play style it has more depth then any DaS play styles because regular Souls combat is far more basic not to say BloodBorne is complex though its kinda like a shallow action game in terms of player mechanics.
Level design is also somewhat better overall atleast and the bosses in the DLC are the best things in the Souls universe. Nothing compares to Orphan. Not to say hes super hard hes just challenging but his moveset is huge , his music is a fucking masterpiece and his design is beautiful.
>>318246438
>dex weapons for pvp
>implying that str is bad for pvp
o i am laffin
The dlc is legitimately frustrating me to where I'm no longer having fun.
>>318246567
Which part anon?
>>318246692
The entire first segment and boss.
>>318246886
But the first segment is pretty fuck great besides the blood red blood starved in the pitch black cave and maybe 2 of the spongey ass hunters.
Also what build/weapon/level are you?
>>318246567
Me too. I'm at the last boss, but I just want it to be over. Sad thing is this last boss would probably be a lot more fun if I didn't still have the taste of rape horse in my mouth.
>>318240238
That's not the worst boss fight though. Celestial emissary is the laziest boss fight I've seen in a videogame.
>>318247221
royal rat authority
>>318240238
Ah the Classic " I suck at the game therefor its bad game design" meme.
My favorit.
>>318247074
You beat Laurence? I actually found him harder even on my strength build i died to him once but not to Ludwig. His phase 2 always annoys me because if you get greedy he fucking murders you so you have to settle for single strike punishes.
I also found Maria consistently challenging taking 3 tries on both my builds. But that is because i'm a better fingers honestly with parrying.
>>318247274
They're the same shit.
>>318247274
Royal Rat Authority is just Capra Demon with a Sif moveset in a bigger room.
>33 posts
>nobody whining about Mergo
this is a bit surprising, that boss gave me so much trouble I needed a buddy to help
>german text
kek, learn english, fag
>>318247221
>>318247274
That's not Prowling Magus & Congregation.
>>318247329
I think anon is talking about Ludwig
>>318246886
Hi dsp!
>>318246438
>Bloodborne
>PVP
>>318240238
>>people say Bloodborne is the best Souls game
No one says this. It's a pretty meh Souls game.
>>318247403
How so? Did the purple mist give you trouble? You can literally just run around the arena walls and when Mergo appears roll twice and repeat until the mist is over.
Mergo has some of the coolest design choices i've ever seen but the boss fight is a fucking joke because of how easy it is to just run away from the purple shit.
>>318247003
NG+3 BL240. I had a character in ng that I tried it on but it did awful since it was only 50.
Took me ages to make it through the level and the boss has a huge pool of health on this cycle. It's a real chore.
>>318247403
The only bosses I couldn't do first try was both final bosses, Rom, and one of the chalice ones, the giant werewolf.
>>318247456
No i was asking him if he beat Laurence since he said he beat the other bosses besides Orphan. Because id assume Laurence would be a bigger issue for most people then Ludwig.
>>318247518
Nah eat a dick its the best Souls game with the DLC added. It can be argued it still has the least content but its core gameplay is better and its bosses are better too.
>>318247572
Id suggest gaining like 25-30 levels on the NG character. That is what i was when i did it and it was still challenging and that is what level most shit in the DLC seems like honestly.
>>318240238
Rom is a huge spider with her legs ripped out, you can still se the sockets which is desgusting.
I really hate spiders. The first time I got the her and the small ones dropped I screamed like a little girl
>>318240238
>mfw i thought Bloodborne was going to be like exploring innistrad as an inquisitor.
>mfw it's mostly alien shit
My character is BL116 on NG+. I haven't played the game since I plat'd it the month of release.
Do I stand a chance with this DLC?
>>318248017
>l-look at me, I'm afraid of spiders
Arachnophobia is such a fucking meme holy shit
>>318248329
You're pretty much in the same scenario as DSP. If you're not too much of a shitter, you should be fine.
>>318240238
That's terrifying. I like it.
>>318248025
It's actually HP Memecraft shit
>>318248408
Alright, cool. I'm fairly competent at these games. Just seen a lot of people complain about the difficulty on NG+.
>>318240726
Rom was the quickest fucking fight in the game on NG. You don't even have to fight the spiders. You should ignore them and just rush her instead.
>>318248025
>>318248565
Sorry that it didn't live up to your virginal expectations
>>318242713
Goddamn, I still haven't even got to his second phase. The thing that kills me the most is his bullrush. I usually try to dodge to the side or diagonally, but still get hit.
Any tips for him?
>>318240238
Autobahn,Rammstein Bratwurst mein Freund
>>318240238
You're using anti-beast stuff against a Kin.
>>318240238
Bed of Chaos is worse.
>share PS4 with brothers
>went home for college and bought bloodborne
>got to the forest with the weird snake things and aliens before i had to go back to college
Now I have to wait a whole month to finish this damn game.
Guess it's back to studying for physics and playing Fallout from now on.
What are some good PVE builds? I was using the Lucien weapons.
>>318249050
as soon as you hear the scream dodge to his right
>>318249075
Was is du sprechen?
>>318249209
First time I played I wrecked shit with STR-build and Kirkhammer, axe is great too. Actually I think pure STR is great for PVE in every Souls-game because of range and staggering.
>>318248025
Not alien; eldritch.
Which I like. I've only played a little bit of it since I don't have a PS4 and it seems to be a very simplified and pretty dumbed down Souls game but it was fun regardless. And I love eldritch occult shit.
>>318240238
>casual filter
Really? It took me two tries because I was impatient but honestly it's not a hard boss.
Is the german translation any good ? French one is pretty lazy.
>>318240238
I don't know why some Souls/BBfags defend Rom's design of having difficulty mainly from having so many minions swarm you.
Yet they also criticize Duke's Dear Freja in Dark Souls 2 for doing just about the exact same thing.
They're basically the same fight.
>>318249050
Release your lock when you want to dodge his tackle attack.
Works on Daughter of Ebrietas as well.
I hate how the dodge mechanic is circling aroud the enemies if you lock on to them. Thanks to that I rarely lock on enemies playing this game.
Tho I've been doing that since Das1 so yea.
>>318249764
I didn't fight the boss in question but since the first level you have to deal with swarms of people, they even tell you that's what the gun is used for.
>>318240238
After the DLC you will realize how easy the boss is even though it's designed somewhat cheaply.
>>318249890
And you somehow can't deal with swarms in Dark Souls 2?
DDF was piss easy once you got Alluring Skulls and just throw them to distract all the little spiders while you kill DDF.
I learned that on my first playthrough of the game. Don't know why people bitched so much about DDF.
I believe that there are also spells that you could use in the game that also distracted minions. Not to mention you could easily use wide-swinging weapons or just huge AoE fire spells to kill them whenever they'd get close to you.
BB has the worst bosses of all the games.
They're either gimmicky stupid shit that's pathetically easy or just lame like Cum, the vacuous butthole or they're generic tall long armed beasts with cookie cutter movesets and one gimmick ability (heal, lightning, poison).
The Ring Wraiths is lit. the only slightly original and worthwhile fight along with with Father Escargo which wasn't really all that good of a fight.
Does anyone have a webm where he pizzacut through Rom?
>>318250056
>Don't know why people bitched so much about DDF.
People wanted to bitch about Dark Souls 2 the minute it got announced that Miyazaki wasn't on the team, even before we'd seen anything. Then when the downgrade hit the bitching hit critical levels. When the game finally released those 2 things were such a large dark cloud over the game that despite DS2 being the more mechanically complex, varied and balanced game people still thought it was the worst because it had more linear levels, mediocre graphics and no Miyazaki.
>>318250056
>>318250056
>And you somehow can't deal with swarms in Dark Souls 2?
Swarms in DS2 aren't balanced like in Bloodborne, they make you fight multiple knight enemies at once. In bloodborne, so far, none of the "big" enemies I had to take on more than one at a time, at most I took on 2 because I accidentally lured another.
Not to mention the enemy tracking, going from 2 to Bloodborne I was surprised those axe enemies didn't slip around and instantly hit me when I tried running behind them.
Fromsoft had nerfed the tracking on Rom's missiles already. He cannot hit you with the meteor storm while you are sprinting.
Which makes OP's claim kind of worthless now.
>>318250214
>mfw this thing made WatchDog of the Old Lords in Defiled chalice a cakewalk.
I got off 5831 damage at one point.
>>318250214
>summon help for blood starved beast
> he stun locks it and kills it with pizzacutter without moving
>>318249812
I never understood why so many Souls players relied on lock on so much. Maybe it's cause I'm used to Monster Hunter and having no lock on options, but I just claw my controller and freely rotate the camera. I've very rarely had any scenarios where lock-on was more advantageous.
>>318240238
It took me 30 tries to beat Rom
Listen closely, you can either not worry about the spiders and go straight for her but you will be dodging constantly with the minions on your ass
I recommend killing each one at a time, since Rom won't leave to phase 2 Until you take her down a certain percent you can wait patiently killing the minion spiders in all 3 phases
When it's just her left and she fires the aoe meteors, they are homing meteors so the best way to dodge them is dodge 3 times in a triangle formation
This boss takes a lot of time and patience
>Throw myself against Ludwig again and again
>He's like the toughest shitter in this game, holy shit
>Finally beat him
>Next boss, living failures is literally fucking nothing
Why put the skill-check at the start of the DLC?
>>318250310
Shit gets even better when you bring Tarkus 3.0 with you
>People had trouble with Rom
wait what
>>318240238
Just because BB is the best Souls game doesn't mean they don't all have some bullshit bosses. Personally though DaS is the best mechanic wise and DeS is the best atmosphere/magic wise, while I do like the more action type gameplay in Bloodborne.
>>318240238
you're right but for the wrong reason. it fails to be good, the fast gameplay doesn't work with the enemies and the damage they do, same with the whole "be aggressive and get your health back" since it you can easily get killed by an enemy or a boss. the fast and fluid gameplay ends up being wasted
>>318246210
did u play on NG++??? or reagular?
>>318250513
Fuck man. Should have done that with beast pellets.
The damage is fucking insane.
>>318250214
Wait, you can fucking do that?!
Pizzacutter just got even more based
>>318250497
It's funny because I defeated Ludwig in 3 tries but like Rom the living failures was hard, took me about 10 to beat then
I can't do well with multiple enemies on my ass and I don't have any chalice runes
>>318250306
>tfw same thing
this shit needs fucking nerfed holy fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVOMdStNQRo
>>318250214
SOMETIMES IT PIZZA TIMES IT SOMETIMES IT PIZZA TIME
>>318250616
Trick form hold L2
>>318250513
I fucking love the pizza cutter.
Boom Hammer is great too.
>>318250513
>His name is Queen Killer
I once met a hostile hunter in a chalice dungeon who had the wheel and deal, and the cannon, without the top.
This guy must have been quite the moody hunter before summoning NPCs for bosses was introduced in the chalice dungeons recently.
>>318250214
if I get my hands on the dlc then I'll order some dominoes while swinging the pizza cutter.
>>318240238
>Sucks at game
>Blames game design
Kek, good job looking pathetic, OP.
>>318240238
Rom is easy as fuck
Chalice Rom on the other hand...
>>318244876
It's better if you enjoy faster combat. That's the most simplistic of reasons, though.
Level 317 with +10 moonlight greatsword and +10 scythe.
I can't ever use anything else, they're my favourite weapons.
I have a question. Is it just me or does the evelyn gun suck for parrying? It seems like close range, the bullet will miss every time.
Should I stick to the beginning pistol if I want good parries?
>>318250672
Ok I've never had the instance where the boss doesn't dodge out of it after about 3-4 ticks of damage.
That's weird.
>fromshit still can't make a good hard game other than "more things on screen and they do more damage than you"
will chinks ever learn to make hard games again?
>>318250960
>317
What are you doing in this game at this point
>>318250960
I noticed this back at release with the Evelyn too.
>>318250612
Like this?
>>318240238
jesus christ that looks terrifying
I should get bloodborne.
looks to me like the best "souls" game.
Rom is a girl by the way. Use electricity.
>>318251018
Probably on ng+++
>>318251042
Hence my asking, because I'm starting to think the long barrel clips into close enemies so the bullet goes through them and "misses" while the hunter's pistol is short enough to actually connect with the hitbox.
I just got this on Friday. Did Rom literally 30 minutes ago. He's not bad. Beat him second try. He's cool looking. But the fight is kinda boring. That said, so far Bloodborne certainly has the highest percentage of good bosses out of the Souls games. Rom was the only fight so far that was ehh. The first boss was kinda annoying but that was mostly because the camera kept fucking up. But the boss itself was good.
>>318251049
Now this is ripping and tearing.
>>318251054
>looks to me like the best "souls" game.
In terms of aesthetics, story and world it is. In terms of gameplay systems and mechanics it's the worst.
>>318250987
Probably had to do with the beast blood pellets and the amount of damage that was being dealt
>>318250746
no mercy for woman
>>318251116
I don't think it's the long barrel, I haven't played with it since release but iirc it has a different shoot animation to the hunters pistol and I think that's what makes it miss.
>>318251159
>In terms of gameplay systems and mechanics it's the worst.
The only bad thing is the health penalty when summoning/invading and gems/chalice dungeons
>>318250746
You can just roll through those things.
>>318240238
Stop trying to kill the minions. You're approaching this boss completely wrong.
>>318251128
Cleric Beast is really a boss that is much easier when you don't lock onto him. When locked on, you tend to track into his attacks, when not locked on he seems to wiff a lot just by you slowly side strafing.
>>318251128
Did you think the shadows were good? They were kinda boring for me.
>they show guns
>everyone cries they casualized it and now it's souls of duty
>Bloodborne ends up being the hardest game in the series
>>318251246
That's a real ebin 'give bad advice' mem you got there.
>>318251227
It's not bad, it's just incredibly limited by comparison. The stat system, weapon upgrade system and the armor system are SUPER simplistic which is fine but it certainly pales in comparison to the Souls games.
>>318240238
oh thank god people like you exist so i can still say
>GET
>GOOD
>>318251254
They were OK. Got fun and entertaining when you hit stage 3 and they start that AoE snake shit.
>>318251251
>a boss that is much easier when you don't lock onto him.
The entire game becomes much easier when you don't lock on.
I swear, Miyazaki designed the tracking of many of the attacks in the game under the assumption that you would stay locked on. That's why being locked on just catches so many people with attacks when they roll.
But take off lock-on? The game becomes significantly easier. Not to mention the camera becomes 100 times less fucked when fighting bigger bosses like Cleric Beast or Paarl.
>>318251328
As far as weapon upgrading goes I WISH CHUNKS DIDN'T COST 30 FUCKING INSIGHT
>>318247329
Bit late to respond now, but naw I didn't. I just didn't bother yet cuz one look at his health pool made me lose my will to fight the fucker.
>>318251401
Yea that's a pain, though I think one of the chalice dungeons was updated to let you do quick runs for chunks wasn't one?
It's also the gem system vs the infuse system is just testicles.
>>318251328
Yea that's my only real gripe. Complete lack of build diversity. You literally just pick str or dex, choose your weapon, then play Fashion Souls.
I got a raging fucking boner when the end of Old Hunters went full-on Shadow over Innsmouth, holy shit.
Started a skill/arcane build for the dlc
did I fuck up?
Is Bloodborne still 30 locked on PC, or is there a mod yet?
>>318251484
Chalice was updated to let you get Blood Rocks as well. Chunks aren't really an issue anymore.
Can you even summon, read messages,etc without PSN+? fuck paying for online
rom is easily the best boss in the game, aesthetically
>>318251227
What's wrong with chalice dungeons?
>>318251401
Just put on a couple of eye runes and farm the WereWolves in Upper Cathedral
>>318251621
I'm not sure about messages. But to summon yea, you need to have Shillstation Plus.
>>318251621
no but now you can summon npcs offline to help hold your hand
>>318251634
Wet Nurse had a great design as well
>>318251223
Its got a slower traveling but larger projectile. The fact that you can see the bullet from the Evelyn shows its travel speed.
>>318251529
Nope. Probably have the most fun. Find the "Church Pick". You can hold R2, hold R2, then hold R2, and they will all chain, with different animations.
>>318251484
I like the gem system better honestly, let's you do a lot more weird shit than just "this weapon has a bunch of fire damage instead of physical now".
>>318251621
I think the passive stuff like ghosts, bloodstains and messages work without PS+, no summoning or invading though.
>>318247403
She only got me once the mist came out. 2nd try I learned from my mistake and beat her with little problem.
>>318251693
*lets
holy fuck what have I done?
>>318251621
You can read messages. You can download patches. But you can't do coop or PvP without money.
>>318251779
can you post messages?
>>318247403
I just stunlocked Mergo's Wetnurse with -stamina beast claws
>>318251691
Sweet, thanks for the tip.ended up fucking up the henryk encounter and got blades of mercy early, so it'll be easy going till I find the pick
>>318251816
Yes, only thing you can't do is direct interactions.
>>318247403
Mergo was super easy. One of the three bosses I beat first try, after BSB and Amygdala. Never actually seen anyone complain about Mergo before.
>>318247403
mergo was one of my favorite fights, dodging through her slashes and fucking her with the axe was fun.
>>318251836
The first time I did the Henryk fight, Henryk, Eileen, and I all killed each other at the same time.
>>318251917
I've heard everyone say amygdala was easy but it was the only boss I beat after more than two tries. not even ebrietas gave me that much trouble.
>Souls is now shonen trash
thanks Myazaki
>>318244754
>>318248709
>tricking people into getting rolled and nuked by Rom
>>318252076
unironically, thanks myazaki
>>318240238
If I have strength build will the bloodletter not do much if I only have the minimum bloodtinge?
Kind of confused
>>318252136
Rushing him and ignoring the spiders is extremely viable on NG, he only gets damage spongy enough where you have to deal with the little spiders on NG+2 or so.
>>318252076
she's fast
>>318252046
Amygdala is based entirely on your play style. He's really easy to fight if you just take him a few strikes at a time, but if you do full combos it's easy to get wrecked.
>>318252076
Gehrman taught Maria the importance of being anime as fuck.
>>318252076
It pisses me off that the weapon you get from her:
1. Can't get as long as hers
2. Can't get the awesome fire/blood effects
>>318252221
Instant transmission, learned it from goku
>>318252204
But what about his magic nukes?
Rom is best dealt with at mid-range while cutting down a couple spiders at a time.
>>318252254
You don't even get the weapon from her.
>>318252046
If you do a decent job of keeping your distance and observing patterns he has nothing. Any boss that doesnt actively pursue you is a cakewalk in these games as long as you dont faceroll r1 spam.
Is it just me or does it feel that bosses are slightly easier on first tries/full restarts?
I noticed with Rom on either my first try or after a restart of the game (or even after not playing for a while on rest most) im able to get him down pretty good then suddenly if I die and restart more bullshit starts to happen, whether it be him teleporting slightly faster or the spiders suddenly moving faster on attacking.
Either way, this fucker took me almost 2 months of on an off playing to beat, once I did it felt like the worlds biggest shit finally getting out of my ass.
>>318252226
Seriously the edgiest character of the whole series
>>318252313
You either rush him and ignore the spiders, or take it slow and kill all of them before going after Rom. Doing it half-way is only going to fuck you over, as the little spiders get more aggressive the longer you stay around them.
His magic nuke doesn't matter, a decent weapon with bolt paper is gonna make him teleport or at least stagger before he gets anything off.
>>318240238
BB is my favourite game from all the FromSoft Souls type games and I agree, he's just fucking boring and terribly designed.
Saying that, at least he's not as infuriatingly bullshit as Bed of Chaos.
>>318252336
>of on an off
>>318252221
HAYAI
rom is easy as hell
git gud faggot
>>318252076
that's not souls you got me worried
>>318252336
More insight means everything gets harder, sometimes subtly with AI changes sometimes new movesets.
>>318250627
I died a few times to the Living Failures until I realized they only spawn up to 4 max. I thought it was a pure damage race at first.
>>318252427
off and on**
sorry im tired
>>318252426
The fact that bed of chaos had fucking checkpoints says it all.
I just beat ludwig in 3 times on NG+
I was scared shitless because of all the stories i heard about him being so powerful.
All of you faggots just need to git gud
Jesus
>>318252320
Well, yeah. But the Rakuyo is basically still her weapon.
>>318249430
>eldritch
Yes, it is "eerie", but that doesn't change the fact there's aliens you retard.
>>318252076
>Teleports towards you in a serpentine maneuver.
Oh, I'm in for a beating, aren't I.
Also
>tfw not even Gwyn could swing his sword and cause the air to get set on fire by swing speed alone
She's fast.
The pvp is more fast pace and it isn't shit git gud
>>318252648
fucking THIS
Ludwig is literally the easiest boss of the entire DLC
>>318250214
I fought Rom yesterday with the Pizza Cutter on NG+ and dealt so much damage she has skipped her second teleport location.
>>318244876
The combat system is just an all round improved version of DeS/DaS. Faster, far more combos, transformable weapons that can be transformed mid combo to combine the movesets of 2 separate weapons seamlessly.
Bosses also have more phases. larger movesets and are generally more challenging than the Souls games.
The weapon count is also a non-issue anymore thanks to the DLC which adds quite a few, ontop of 2 completely unique new ways to play your character (Kin and Beast forms).
Best game in the series easily IMO.
>"rom is easy its good design"
>impossible-to-dodge magic spears shooting out of the ground at random with no way of predicting where they're coming from and no time to react or dodge if they appear right underneath you that kill you from full health, or homing spears that stunlock and kill you from full health, or a 360-degree undodgeable AoE that can kill you from full health, on top of a dozen constantly respawning minions
Nah
>>318252689
have fun, fagboy
Bloodborne has the best enemy variety in the souls series. It's fucking crazy.
>complaining about ANY boss maybe except for Ebrietas
I do love Bloodborne, it has the best gameplay but god damn it's also the easiest one of them all.
>>318252557
Well im when I mean restart/first tries I mean doing that and nothing else to increase insight past what I have.
Unless the 1 insight you get for entering an boss arena stacks on restarts which I doubt. I know it could just be me getting frustrated fucking my skill up too. Still seems like theirs something to it though, oh well.
>>318252760
>>318252648
Until he jumps into the air and then miraculously teleports to be on top of you and instakills you even if your health is full, no matter how far you sprint or dodge
>>318251265
What annoys me about guns is seeing AI hunters spam the fuck out of them
>>318252760
>Second phase
>7 Blood Vials
Nice try poopface
>>318252983
try rolling
>>318252927
Only the main game though. I find the Chalice Dungeons and some NG+ (especially DLC) bosses to be the hardest in any of the series.
>>318252927
>>318252927
>it's also the easiest one of them all.
Depth 4 and above chalice bosses + DLC bosses shit all over Souls bosses in difficulty.
>>318252927
People play it differently, my first run I did blades of mercy while never point points in vitality.
A stiff breeze could kill me by the time I got to the forest and I had to gitgud at dodging and not rely on staggers
>>318252927
Easier than Demon's?
You know, the game that wasn't designed to be hard?
>>318253073
>>318253068
>the most intentional and literal artificial difficult part of the game is really fucking hard
no shit
>>318252830
Can't you stunlock her with a knife throw or a shotgun blast to cancel that attack?
Also why not dodge and have i-frames take the blow? Looks like you just suck at dodging anon.
Its fast but does not look long lasting like a Ludwig/Amygdala/Bloodletting beast jump attack.
>>318252668
I think you might be getting too worked up over a video game anon. What aliens?
>>318252760
>7 vials left
>half health
>"easy fight"
Just because you beat the boss does not mean it was easy.
Ludwig is probably the best DLC fight, just for everything about that second form.
but man, actually getting a coop win is tough, the host always dies.
>>318253073
>shit all over Souls bosses in difficulty.
I disagree, the blood vial healing animation being so fast and being able to move while you're doing it makes Bloodborne so forgiving. There's only a few enemies that prevent this from being a crutch to rely on because they just 1 hit kill you.
Also stamina management in BB is ridiculously forgiving too.
>>318252830
How's that unfair? lmao
She's literally standing still for almost 5 seconds. You could've gone upto her or further back.
>>318252668
eldritch is aliens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQEgIrlgb7s
best music coming through!
>>318240238
>Not knowing that literally every single Souls game has terrible boss design at some point.
Is Bloodborne babies first Souls game?
Getting close to finishing Bloodborne
Should I pick up the DLC or DaS2? Seeing as they're both the same price
Is DaS2 as bad as everyone says?
>>318253247
Yeah, Matthewmatosis noted in his Pastebin review that the game was too forgiving partly because of that.
>>318252830
You only had to move away a little bit more and she would have just missed you.
>>318252830
Holy shit you suck.
>>318253372
Real fuckin' disappoint that sunflower wasn't a boss
>>318240238
>Why do people praise terrible design like this? Jesus Christ.
Looks sick as fuck to me, get some taste nigger.
>>318253406
I don't think DaS2 is that bad. Especially with SotFS it's pretty good, just not Miyazaki-Tier good. That said, I would recommend getting the BB DLC first.
>>318253409
Which souls game did matosis like the most?
>>318253073
The only time the chalice dungeons were "hard" is when a dungeon forced me to fight three copy pasted bosses over again but this time with my health bar sliced in half
Pthumerian Queen only took me two tries
>>318253409
Fuck off faggot with your youtube bullshit.
>>318252983
When he jumps. Roll towards him. You will escape his short range jump.
If he doesn't land, you have enough time to recover from the first roll (the one you did towards him), and then you should "listen in" on him. He will give off a "telling sign" that he will land, and that is when you should roll. (at the beginning of his neigh)
>>318253409
Quit shilling your fucking channel 24/7.
>>318253526
Btw Bloodborne has been my first "souls" game aside from playing a bit of DaS a while back
>>318253406
Alot of people have a hard time playing DaS 2 after BB, mostly due to how clunky and slow it feels, in comparison. It's not a bad game by any means, but with all the people playing BB right now, i'd get the DLC, that is, if you enjoyed BB.
>>>>318253247
Are you forgetting the fact that a +7 Estus will heal you almost to full instantly, and you can chug more estus at once were as with blood vials you only get ~30% health from each one, they aren't upgradable and to pop more than one you have to go through the entire animation again?
On top of being able to pop humanities for a 100% heal and the ability to hide behind ridiculous stability shields, the fact that poise was hilariously broken and allowed you to tank anything and instant backstabs.
Dark Souls was far easier, you need to go back and reply it.
>no Respec item to have fun with different builds
>ability to play co-op with friends locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of
>ability to HEAL locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of and have to grind
Real quality game design
>>318253192
>what aliens
ayy lmao
>>318253279
No, eldritch is an adjective that describes something which is "eerie" or "supernatural".
Aliens are aliens; besides, the guy I was replying to said "Not alien; eldritch", which is roughly equivalent to saying "Not vehicle; mobile" or "Not food; nutritious"
>>318253526
Every boss in DS2: Big generic knight guy with a different weapon, and maybe a shield
>>318253372
>not posting Ludwig's theme
every track is great but nothing can beat this
https://youtu.be/ALbVEmzY5S4
>tfw second phase 3:41
>>318253751
>ability to play co-op with friends locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of
>ability to HEAL locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of and have to grind
I agree about the respec item, but how the fuck does anyone run out of Insight and Blood Vials?
>>318253858
idiots who dont realize you can buy them at the shop or get drops of 5+
>>318253625
Estus locks you in place. In Dark Souls 1 the animation is significantly longer. Dark Souls 2 the Estus won't heal you as much or as fast and the animation is still significantly longer.
You also have to use kindle bonfires to get more than 5 Estus per bonfire as well as having to get more fire keeper souls some of which don't come until later in the game to make the Estus heal as much as you're stating.
Humanity takes fucking forever and is a valuable resource.
>Replaying games as good judgement for basing whether a game is easier or not
Anon I know that game back to front it's going to be easier no matter what simply because I've played it more.
Going of mechanical systems Bloodborne is easier.
>tfw midway through ludwig the rapehorse that cutscene plays
>that pose when phase 2 starts
>that music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
hype
as
fuck
only downside is that Ludwig phase 2 completely overshadows the rest of the boss fights.
>>318253769
As I said, it's not as good as DeS, DaS or BB, but I really liked it regardless because it has a great build variety.
>>318253073
>Depth 4 and above chalice bosses
Then what about the Great Isz Chalice?
>>318253895
>buy them at the shop
>which costs echoes, which one must grind
>drops of 5+
>which one must grind
Absolutely awful.
>>318253753
Ebrietas is probably the only legit alien. The other ayy lmaos are people transformed by the knowledge of the cosmos. Amygdalas come from the nightmare.
RIP AND TEAR
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>>318253751
>>ability to play co-op with friends locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of
It costs one insight to be able to use the bell, you are refunded if no one joins, discovering a boss nets you insight, you make heavy profit if you and your co-op partners don't suck shit
>ability to HEAL locked behind a consumable resource you can run out of and have to grind
Considering that the update made it so back up inventory holds up to 600, it's gonna take a long load of deaths to actually need to grind again
>>318240726he doesn't spam magic if you're clsoe to himadds can be easily avoided/dodgedfire is extremely effective
this shit tho... fuck it and its charge...
i cant beat maria
I beat ludwig in 3 times, failures second try but i cant seem to beat that fucking bitch
I was always bad against npc hunters but this bitch takes it to a whole new level
I'm playing on NG+ btw so I have beat the first hunter
Are there any cheesy way of beating her without using bullets?
>>318253990
>Costs echos
>Put on "gain more echos runes
>Run through an area once
>Be able to buy 50+
>>318254070
It is better to get hit by the charge than to dodge out of it's way. Getting hit head on only does about 65% of its normal damage.
>>318253612
get the DLC. it's worth it.
then finish DaS, and get DaS2 Scholar Edition. DaS2 is very half baked, but it really isnt all that bad, and it's DLC areas and bosses are some of the best in the series.
>>318253769
>Every boss in DS2: Big generic knight guy with a different weapon, and maybe a shield
You can't be more wrong. Last Giant, Executioner Chariot, Covetous Demon, Mytha, Old Iron King, Scorpionness Najka, Royal Rat Authority, Prowling Magus, Duke's Dear Freja, Royal Rat Vanguard, The Rotten, Demon of Song, Aldia, Darklurker, Sinh and Aava don't fit this category.
Try harder to shitpost. People like you are the reason why /v/ can't talk about this deeply-flawed game in a rational and objective manner.
>>318254192
>mfw DS2 DLC's have the best bosses
>Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne
>Old Ivory King
>>318253992
pretty sure Kos is also an ayylium, as is Moon Presence.
