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How do we fix this /v/?
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>>318192794
Remove BJ Blazkowicz. he's blond now.
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>>318192981
>white males are bad, we need more "diversity"
>but not aliens lol
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>>318192794
More games with character creation?
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>>318192794
>kids
Aren't all of those are mature rated or PG-13 at best?
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>>318192794
Considering that every one of those games sold like crazy i dont think it needs to be fixed.
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>>318192794
Default broshep is mixed
Niko is a slav
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>>318192794
we let anita and leigh continue to make progress for diversity and culture in video games. they want to celebrate people, gamers want to celebrate killing and violencs.
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>>318192794
by stop lying

Snake is 27 in MGS3
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>>318194112
27 is thirtynegativethree faggot
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By keeping publishers away from the designs.
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>>318192794
>slavs
>white
>hispanics
>germans
>italians
>celts
>bretons

>no diversity
When your nigger countries start making games targeted towards a majority nigger consumer base perhaps you will deserve a spot in the list.
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But snake knows how to make being a brown haired 30something male look cool. Just look at his mullet.
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>>318193304
pretty much this. but unfortunately in today's meme central society the minute you start coming up with actually unique looking characters people start rampantly screaming something about furries.

way to fucking go
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>>318193920
>>318194293
Snake is also part asian.
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>protagonists appeal to the largest target demographic

Woah stop the presses!
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Start an odious YouTube channel that calls game developers misogynists and engage in a protracted culture war with teenagers over Twitter.
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Live in a capitalistic society where companies make products people want to buy.
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>doesn't play vidya
>doesn't make vidya
>tells devs how to do their games
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>>318192794
Most people are brown haired white males.
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>>318192794
More brown girls in vidya
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>>318195528
who would play a house cleaning game tho
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>>318195528
Did someone say brown girls?
Best cream drizzled brownie comin thru.
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>>318194367
but i was told by a gamergator that the majority of gamers wouldnt be comfortable playing as anything that isn't literally them
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>>318192794
we encourage a plurality of voices, of our own subjective opinion

also we should have more protagonists that are black, female etc to appreciate what it feels like to not be represented as a protagonist in a game. it would be an interesting dimension to play as your character would or continue to project yourself onto the character.
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>>318196529
we dont live in communist soviet union
people dont want to play as black, female protagonists so the games would sell less.
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The problem about this tyoe of characters is that its a cliche so bad, all the characters look the same because the point of this cliche is that your character is suppost to look like a normal people rather than having something unrealistic in him to make him unique.


At lest waifu characters, furfaggots, JRPG protags and some violent action heros have details that make them unique, there are even characters you wouldnt expect to exist like a glove, a worm in a suit or a skeleton.

Something something creativity imagination whatever
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>>318192794
Make your own video game.
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>>318192981
This is the biggest load bullshit I've ever heard, games like Devil May Cry or Boyonetta wouldn't have anywhere near the same appeal if you were playing as a "relatable" character.
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And again I'll ask, why should we make video game leads that Shaniqua can relate to, when Shaniqua LITERALLY DOES NOT PLAY VIDEO GAMES EVER.

Companies aren't gonna do this. They want to make money. What they should be trying to do is make us gamers a little less uncomfortable with the notion of playing as a black woman etc. and that kind of player-character bond (ie Alyx Vance) can't be forced by a focus group.
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>>318192794
Nuke all amerikek universities for spreading cancerous, nation-wrecking identity politics?
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>>318192794
Make games with different protagonists
/thread
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>>318192794
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Also BJ Blazkowicz is suppost to be blonde
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>>318192794
Theres no stopping the progress train OP.
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>>318192794
>all blank slates
White people are boring. I don't see how this is averse to the SJW message.
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>>318192794
bald is used because having good looking hair is too resource heavy
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>>318199376
I second the killing of all people that buy into idenity politics, it's the only way to kill this insidious nationwrecking disease before it can take full effect.
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>>318192794
By preordering Fallout 4 Season Passes
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who wants to play as a nigger anyway
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>>318192794
You don't fix it. It's not broken. I don't want to play as a woman or black man.
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>>318195924
But thats true.

People want to be able to relate to the protag. Some people get hung up on race though and thats why we have SJWs
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>>318199801
One of my favorite protagonists to ever exist. The books are even better.
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>>318192981
That's bullshit.

ONLY having 'relatable', human main characters is inherently less interesting.

What if someone can up with the idea of a game where you played as an alien with abilities humans couldn't do, just as example, like reading minds or some shit?
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>>318192794
>Sam Fisher
>brown-haired
>30-something
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>>318200429

Its completely retarded, we have dozens and dozens of succesful games where we play as fucking talking animals and shit

Everything bioware says today is 99% damage control 1% pure lies.
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>>318194732
>japanese game character
>always part-jap in some way

this is just as bad as 'the american wins in the end' in movies
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>>318192981
"relatability" is a cancerous western concept. Japanese games have protagonists from every spectrum and they're great because you're playing someone totally different from yourself.
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>>318200960
>generic loli
>pretty bishonen
>every spectrum
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>>318200960
This

My feelings about this apply to film, television, any form of popular art

This whole "find the most relatable character" thing treats art as a sterile, money-driven, test-audience-filled concept and it absolutely crushes any room to experiment artistically in the given medium.

How many fucking times are you going to have to see another 6' 5" male wearing futuristic armor and holding crazy guns in his big black gloves before you decide maybe it is time for a nice change of pace?
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Fix what? I don't see any problems.
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>>318195924
That's not really contradictory.
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>>318200960
"Relatability" as a whole is a really overrated concept.

I mean, sometimes it really is nice to read a story with a character you relate to, or read about a setting not unlike your own.

But it's also somewhat antithetical to creativity. Does everything need to be relatable? How can we learn about different experiences or consider potential concepts or ideas if everything needs to be relatable?
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>>318192794
if you dont like it dont buy it and make your own shit

this isn't rocket science senpai
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>>318192794

Why does it need fixing looks fine to me
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>>318200960
The West is the Best. Leave sissyboi.
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>>318200960
>>318201538
>>318201804
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We need more imperfect protagonists.
More greedy assholes like Wario and the such.
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>>318202123

Instead we are getting the opposite

>mfw only liked FO3 and NV for being able to roleplay weird and shitty people
>fo4
>now I'm a generic 35 dad that can LOOK different but not be different
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The idea is flawed, but does have some basic observational logic to it.

Looking at kids in school or even just adults in the workplace...they generally tend to find people they can group with (if they don't have friends there already).
This usually means you look, mostly unconsciously, for the first thing that makes you and then relatable: hey that's a white guy
Its how the school can have maybe 30 asians and yet somehow they mostly know each other.

Now i've always felt this to be generally bullshit for games/movies/etc. San Andreas is an amazing example for it. A game that forced you to be a black guy and yet it never stopped whites from buying it and enjoying the shit out of it.
Also has never stopped MMOs from having other races, and usually the "not human" has more than the humans
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>>318202086
I mean...not really?

Think about it. Is Link relatable? What about Solid Snake? Dante? Bayonetta?

The more I think about it, the more I realize that most of the big, iconic, memorable video game protagonists really aren't all that relatable.

The only video game character I can think of who was a genuine attempt at creating a relatable video game character, a mirrored reflection of the player of whom one could see traits of the person playing the game, was Travis fucking Touchdown, and the game actually did a lot with that relatability.

No other game I can think of that really did that, aside from maybe The World Ends With You with Neku, although I never did beat that game.

Honestly most devs don't even try to create relatable characters anyway, they create badass power fantasies immature gamers can imprint themselves onto. Projection.
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>>318192794
more qt3.14 trap protags
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>>318203404
But then trannies would think they're accepted.
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>>318205042
see >>318194367
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>>318205042
>Raiden instead of snake, who's a bearded while male
>DR guy is wearing a mask while
>Castlevania and DR are IP'S owned by japanise publishiers while Evil Within was made by the game who made RE
>Not realising characters like Duke Nukem, Banjo Kazooie, Scorpian, Sackboy and Master Chief exist and arent bearded white males
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>>318205042
>Donkey Kong
To be fair, DK is more of a Western thing these days and the redesign that everybody knows and loves was from a Western developer who also made Diddy, Dixie, K. Rool, and everything else people love and associate with Donkey Kong these days.
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>>318205042
Somebody post the edited one.
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>>318202123
I wouldn't mind this
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>>318192925
>Jew
>blonde
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>>318207275
Dont talk shit about BJ, he might bring the Doomguy with him
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>>318207449
FUCKING CANON FROM THE BEGINNING
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>>318207721
I know, i just thought you had a problem with that, never talk shit about the guy who fucked female nazis so hard, he turned into popstickles and his penis came out from their mouth
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>>318208014
I meant popsicles fuck
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>>318208014
my mom is a jew
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>>318205042
>Castlevania on both sides
lmao
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