>Gives beta keys randomly to a selected few of people
>Preorders get cu.ck while people that didn't even paid get to play a whole weekend
>Blizzard can't confirm for their lifes if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
>People are already getting refunds
>Next year release
>Can't compare to the TF2 autistic economy
Is overwatch already dead? i only saw this kind of bullshit in the tortanic.
>>318177536
No lol blizzard has a shitload of dedicated fans anon.
>Diablo 3
30million sold. Top 20 vidya games sold
>legacy of the void
Sold 1mil when fallout 4 released
No matter how much you will it, the TORtanic is not going to happen again. Just because you don't like something about a game doesn't mean it's not a financial success.
>>318177742
Over the forums people are already feeling betrayed because they didn't get a chance to play, even after they paid the most expensive pack tbhfamimo
People played a total of 129 year during the Overwatch weekend stress test. So I doubt it.
>Blizzard game
>Failing
>giving it to people that preordered
They already have your money you fucking retard. They don't have to waste bandwith on you idiots.
They want to get people that don't have any interest in it to buy it. Not their already retarded fan base.
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>>318177536
>Gives beta keys randomly to a selected few of people
this is a basic marketing concept. people want it because they can't have it. works like a charm
>Preorders get cu.ck while people that didn't even paid get to play a whole weekend
see above
>Blizzard can't confirm for their lifes if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
it's been confirmed for a while that it's neither. it's just a game you buy and then play, like 99% of fucking games out there. what's so hard to understand?
>People are already getting refunds
yeah, dumbfucks who are butthurt that it's not early an access game.
>Next year release
yeah so?
>Can't compare to the TF2 autistic economy
i don't even know what that's supposed to mean
>Is overwatch already dead?
just because you want it to be dead doesn't mean it is. it's a fucking blizzard game, it's going to be popular as fuck. deal with it and ignore it if you don't like it.
>>318178216
>it's been confirmed for a while that it's neither. it's just a game you buy and then play, like 99% of fucking games out there. what's so hard to understand?
I understand your point, but with that 30 hero achievement that was datamined and their complete sidestepping of the question "Will there be more than 21 heroes?" I'm sure we can conclude that there will be more you have to buy.
>>318177536
>people that didn't even paid get to play a whole weekend
Welcome to blizzard server stress tests. They open it to everyone and see what crashes first. They've always done this.
>>318178369
>They open it to everyone
This isn't true though.
>>318178146
No matter how much copys they give, they won't fall for it after what happen to tf2. They dont want their money to turn into a untradeable shitty hat
>>318178517
It is. Anyone with a battle.net account has the chance to download and play during the stress test events.
>>318178667
>the chance
>>318177536
They already lost me at p2p WITH microtransactions.
It's gonna be another Evolve.
>>318178667
not sure if retarded or merely pretending to be
>>318178831
They already lost me at p2p WITH microtransactions.
It's gonna be another CS:GO.
>>318177536
>if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
Are you kidding?
>>318178832
He's a blizzardrone, anon. Don't even bother.
>>318178941
CS:GO is at least cheaper.
>>318179087
yeah, just saying that people will eat up any shit today no matter what.
>>318178941
>Comparing a 40 dollars game to a 10 dollars game
Keep trying retard, go back to /r/overwatch you giant cu.ck
>>318177935
well no shit they are complaining. That doesn't mean they're not going to buy it. In fact, like you said, most of them already did.
PLAY DIRTY BOMB
>>318179239
You can do refunds anon. Right now blizzard is bleeding money because they can't answer their community
>>318178941
CSGO was (and is) cheaper and has a higher skill ceiling
>>318179213
>too new to get past word filters
>tells me to go to reddit
never change, neo-/v/
>>318178832
I think you literally are retarded.
Stress tests weekends open to everyone, because if they don't, it's not a stress test.
>>318179049
Oh, I see. Not being a literal retard and being too stupid to comprehend several of these stress test events where they literally give anyone with an account access means I'm a drone.
You don't keep access to the game after this event, by the way, unless you got in a different way.
>>318179318
Dead on arrival
>>318179410
>>>318178832 (You)
>I think you literally are retarded.
>Stress tests weekends open to everyone, because if they don't, it's not a stress test.
well then it wasn't a stress test because it wasn't open to everyone. who's the retard now? it's okay to be embarassed, you can go kill yourself now
>>318179410
You're a dumbass. It was a 'stress test' in that a bunch of random accounts got access to the beta; not everyone. I didn't get access, and I know a ton of people who didn't either.
>>318177536
>lifes
>>318179410
Anon you're not following, i'm pointing the fact that people that deserved the most to play are the people that preordered the game but they got c.uck for brs/mexicans.
In fact i got to play overwatch but i didn't paid a single penny, i'm pointing that people are getting panicking refunds because they think its going to be f2p since they can't make up their minds.
>>318177536
>Blizzard can't confirm for their lifes if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
it's obviously P2P, I don't understand the confusion
>>318179353
Yes I know that. I'm not saying blizzard is doing a good job of communicating with people, far from it. But regardless odds are the majority won't refund, and those that do will likely buy the game when it comes out anyway. Blizzard games have a built in fanbase. There's seven million people opted in to the Overwatch beta. They'll make their money back and then some.
I hope it's good. I got a chance to play the beta and the game was really fun. If blizzard does the right thing and only charges for cosmetics rather than heroes it'll stick around for a long time. Reminded me a lot of oldschool tf2, which I miss.
>>318179410
They only added about 25% of the total people who were opted in to the stress test weekend.
>>318179410
>Stress tests weekends open to everyone
>Why would I fact check when I can just blindly defend blizzard like a huge shill
>>318179718
No one on the planet thinks it's going to be free to play, they've already announced it's not, and ads for preorders are plastered all over the battle.net application.
>>318178193
Do you people even know what a tick is?
>>318179718
why would they give beta access to people who paid?
they aren't gonna buy the game twice
if they give it to people who haven't paid yet, they are more likely to buy it once the beta ends
actiblizz are jews
>>318179963
Link?
I'm actually sort of interested in Overwatch.
It's a shame all this bullshit is going on, though. I have to wait on the sidelines for Blizzard to get their shit together.
>>318179856
The problem I had when I played the Weekend event was that while the characters were fun as fuck, the maps were fucking awful.
>>318179963
>No one on the planet thinks it's going to be free to play, they've already announced it's not, and ads for preorders are plastered all over the battle.net application.
'Cept it has the F2P model with a price tag slapped on it. It plays like what you'd expect a F2P game to play like, and they refuse to answer on what they're planning with post-release expansions/characters, which means that they'll be pay locked.
>WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY MONEY FOR A VIDEO GAME?! HAND ME EVERYTHING FOR FREE, YOU JEWTASTIC THIEVES!! WHAT DO YOU MAN YOU'RE A BUSINESS AND BUSINESSES MAKE MONEY FROM THEIR PRODUCTS IN ORDER TO KEEP MAKING PRODUCTS, I'M AN ENTITLED ADULT WHO HAS PLAYED GAMES ALL MY LIFE AND I DEMAND TO BE CATERED TO INSTEAD OF ALL THESE CASUALS WHO DESTROYED BY EXCLUSIVE HOBBY!! YOU HAVEN'T SAID THAT YOU WON'T CHARGE ANYTHING ELSE, THAT TOTALLY MEANS YOU'LL BE BEGGING FOR MY MONEY TO MAKE THE GAME INSTANT WIN!! ALL OF YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS GAME I HATE!!
>randomly
>only to faggots who stream with their retarded face or boobs on screen so retards watch them
>>318179919
Seeing as it said stress test, and that it said it was open to everyone I figured that's what it was. I didn't look past that because I didn't give a shit.
I'm not obsessed like you, and all my information came from the launcher when I noticed I had access for that weekend.
>durrr youer r shil haha lol haha kek lol haha
Says the guy apparently constantly looking up news and information for his favorite game so he can tell all his friends about it on his favorite taiwanese newspaper image board.
I'm in the beta, shit is mad fun
All they need to do is buff Based Zenyatta a bit and the game will be perfect
>>318180517
>zenyatta
>not already OP as fuck
the fuck u smokin son
>>318180117
What the fuck are you talking about you absolute moron?
>>318180253
>'Cept it has the F2P model
no it doesn't. The free to play model would be what hots did, you don't pay for the game but you dont get access to any of the heroes without buying them, and instead they do a weekly rotation or something. It does not have a free to play model.
> It plays like what you'd expect a F2P game
this is both subjective and wrong
>refuse to answer on what they're planning with post-release expansions/characters
go watch the post blizzcon interview with metzen and the OW director.
>>318180327
...
Ultra kek.
Tbh, the game is great, and if Blizz isn't a pile of dicks about their monetization, I'll happily buy it. The problems come around where:
A. It plays identically to similar games on the market that are F2P
B. Blizzard is known for its horrible pay models, just look at WoW, Hearthstone, and HoTS.
C. Because of B, it is logical to assume they'll do the same with Overwatch and the game will go from "good" to "gutter trash" in one press release.
>>318180517
zenyatta is fucking good, he doesn't need a buff.
>>318180327
How would you feel if you bought a game only for it to go f2p in a few months?
This isn't about wanting free games, it's about wanting the developer to be upfront with their marketing strategy so you don't get screwed over.
>>318180671
jesus christ thank the sfm gods
>>318180597
>go watch the post blizzcon interview with metzen and the OW director.
I assume you mean this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAHaQxUsf_A
>>318180597
it's funny because it's even more obvious when you don't have access
>>318180671
is that ellowas?
>>318180671
>Censoring the best SFM breasts
>>318180671
post more/source
>>318180710
he needs a 1 health buff so he doesn't get 1 or 2 shot so easily
>>318180671
>that little mole on the underside of her breast
please for the love of god where did you get that
>>318180892
yes it is
>>318178216
>have money to buy it
>dont want it
i must be special!
>>318177536
>randomly
>only to epic twitch streamers
They know exactly what they're doing.
>>318181084
>>318180959
>>318180892
It's Ellowas, and she's being fucked by Hanzo.
>>318181078
No he doesn't. Stop getting out of position, he's meant to be played from range unless you're ulting
>>318180574
>>318180710
He's actually considered the "weakest" support in the game(but its mostly because Mercy and Lucio are stupid strong)
He just needs a bit more health IMO, for a warrior-monk he's pretty squishy
>>318181194
>They know exactly what they're doing
no they didn't
>>318180671
>all the keks thinking its SFM and not knowing ellowas
you dont deserve it
>>318177536
You forgot to mention that the tickrate (20) is a literal joke
I want a beta invite. Dammit.
>>318181383
never ever
i know like 10 guys irl who wanted to get it and none of us got in
>>318180671
>>318181340
>All those views for HotS
Woah, what?
>>318181483
Protip: just because /v/ shits on something, doesn't mean it's bad
>>318181230
>Stop getting out of position
getting 1 shot from a widowmaker bodyshot isn't out of position
>>318181340
>>318181483
this is exactly the reason why Twitch viewers is a completely useless metric
There was a Heroes of the Storm tournament so the viewers were high. There were no popular streamers on so Overwatch count was low.
It's just fucking random. Like hell, CREATIVE has more viewers than CSGO and DotA 2. What does that say about the playerbase for those two games?
>>318181556
I wasn't implying it was bad, but it usually doesn't have twitch views above Dota 2.
>>318181483
dreamhack winter tournament
it's around 3k usually
>>318181569
Widowmaker oneshots almost everyone if her rifle is fully charged
>>318180787
Yeah, it's about ethics in video game journalism <@:-)
It was a mistake to start building hype for this thing so early.
>>318181803
>questioning Blizzard
I'm pretty sure you don't know better
>>318181871
As far as we know that's all because of Activision.
>>318181674
only tracer and zenyatta die to body shots
full charged shot does 150, 300 for headshots
>>318179087
Speaking of, is Cs go worth 7.50? Played source and sucked cock but I liked the game anyway
>>318181340
To be fair, it was near the top of the list for the first week or so when the beta came out. The point is they screwed over loyal fans who pre-ordered to gain bigger appeal.
>>318181674
she was nerfed actually, can only oneshot tracer and zenyatta without a headshot
>>318177536
I got into the beta weekend op
>>318182116
Oh shit. That's kinda lame.
>>318182180
No it isn't. Bodyshots are retarded.
It is possible to create a private server using the beta client?
>Preorders get cu.ck while people that didn't even paid get to play a whole weekend
>Blizzard can't confirm for their lifes if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
You are a moron. They've said many times it's 40 bucks, never even hinted at being f2p. And you're a whiny little baby man for thinking pre-ordering would give you good goy points and let you into the beta when they explicitly said it wouldn't. The game isn't dead because you don't know how to look up basic information.
>>318182437
>is it possible to circumvent Battlenet
You funny, anon.
>>318182554
How much is Blizzard paying you, drone?
>>318180832
Writing down some notes
>It's about making matchmaking good
>Matchmaking is "throw the last 12 people who queued up together into a match. Including full 6 man parties vs. 6 man solo queues."
>"Do you guys have any plans for putting anything that impacts gameplay behind a paywall?"
>Dodges question initially then talks about how "we have no idea IF we will even add more heroes"
Bull-fucking shit. If they have no idea, then the people writing their checks sure as hell know: yes, yes, and paywall, yes.
>>318182820
but everything he said is actual fact.
>>318182987
>defending Blizzard this hard
>>318181556
>being popular means its good
hello shill
>>318183183
the post you quoted does not imply that in any way, shape, or form. go back to school.
Blizzard games always sell regardless because they have a huge following.
And Overwatch is actually pretty good, so if the final version is even just a little better than what we see in the beta, it'll easily be as big as TF2 was in it's prime.
People being salty means jack shit. Honestly, it only makes them want to play the game harder. I got into the beta and my friends didn't, and they're constantly talking about the game instead of me.
Blizzard aren't stupid, they know exactly what they're doing.
When's the next beta weekend? Only western game I'm looking forward to next year.
>>318183591
Except it will be dead in half a year after release and no ones gonna play it.
The thing that you're forgetting is that it's a really fun game to play, so none of this is going to matter once people get to play it.
>>318183775
Are you really that out of touch with reality? You know it's a blizzard game right? The people that made world of warcraft?
>>318181871
good chance that's due to the runup to, and success of Blops 3.
>>318180018
Are you defending 20tick servers?
>>318177536
it will be buy to play until their drones get sick of sucking cock since it doesn't have enough content to justify the cost
>>318183863
just look at hots anon that shit couldn't even beat smite in terms of player numbers and with its competition being free to play or having enough content to justify the cost overwatch will almost certainly bomb seeing as its a new IP
>>318183863
And hearthstone is the only successful thing they have done in years
>>318183863
All of their recent releases tanked. Especially when going up against already established games of the same genre.
How come this wasn't cracked like SFV was so everyone can play the beta?
No one really thinks Overwatch is gonna be a flop right ? A game made by the same developers of WoW , which still has millions of players after 10 years.
And Blizzard doesn't give beta access just to streamers or youtubers; i am neither and i got into it. They were very clear about the pricing model ; 3 separate versions with different prices. There will probably be an ingame shop with aestethic stuff because software does't pay its maintenance cost itself .
I am okay with that anyway; i dislike much F2P with too much grind to access all the content.
>>318184180
>>318184208
What the fuck are you even talking about? WoD sucked, but it sold like fucking gangbusters, every WoW expansion does. Even if those numbers are lower than they've ever been, they're still at like 5 million sales/subscriptions. That's money in the bank. HotS was never going to be bigger than dota or league, but it made it's money back and is still making money.
>>318184704
Let me put it like this, WoW subscriptions alone makes blizzard about $75,000,000 a month. Not counting tokens, store sales, expansion sales, or character services. You can talk all you want about how the game isn't as good as it used to be, but it still makes an absolutely ridiculous amount of money.
>>318184704
well of course WoD sold well world of warcraft has a massive fanbase with almost no competition in the mmo market
>>318181952
>>318183915
at worst, it's Blizzard maintaining neutral recognized revenues compared to 2014/2013 which obviously isn't true as stated in their Q3 financial statements.
It's insane to assume that only Skylanders and Call of Duty are not only upholding Activision's stock but are more than doubling it this year especially after a weak release with Guitar Hero Live
Heroes of the Storm has been financially successful. Hearthstone has been financially successful. Their F2P Diablo 3 release in China has been financially successful.
The only thing anyone can make an argument about regarding Blizzard and their contribution to Activision is weak World of Warcraft subscription numbers which is moot considering an expansion year is coming up and its a decade old game.
>>318180018
The people who are meming about it, filling these threads, don't. Those who no longer give a shit about the state of the game do.
>>318185028
and yet people are saying "All of their recent releases tanked"
You'd have to be an absolute moron to think blizzard is releasing financial flops.
>>318177536
>>Blizzard can't confirm for their lifes if the game is going to be p2p or f2p
wut
>>318185061
>Heroes of the Storm has been financially successful.
>>318185162
They're flops because I day they are, shill. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Rexxcraft got his hands on Tracer just fyi everyone.
>>318185276
are you going to show me numbers to prove otherwise?
>inb4 you redirect it
of course you will
>>318181343
how are people supposed to know that
he hasnt made new videos in a year
>>318185436
Twitch views are even lower than Smite. How can anybody bother to play when nobody even bothers to watch it?
>>318185276
It has, you moron, regardless of what /v/ says
>Get into the weekend beta with some friends
>Not really interested after all the bad info that came out
>Finally decide to give it a go
>End up playing for 13 straight hours
>Drop another 12-15 on sunday
>Not perfect by any means but it's a lot of fun with friends
Really blew away my expectations, they still have to fix the FOV, add some sort of killfeed, and balance a few characters but overall I like it and I want it to be my next FPS game. The problem though?
>Like OP said they only gave keys to a select few
>The gameplay side feels 90% complete
>Release isn't for 6-7 months
>Big name streamers aren't streaming it
>Average streamers don't care
>Ends up having 1k-4k viewers
I have no idea why they let people into the beta so early if they aren't going to open up preorder keys, the hype is stalling because everyone is angry at them for handling it this way. I personally have no fucking clue what they could be stalling for, they already said this is the full release roster of characters so it's not that. The only thing I could think of would be that they want to add in more game modes but those should be in testing now.
>>318185540
>twitch
how about some numbers regarding actual money?
>>318185540
>more people should watch video games than play them
Maybe the stupidest comment I've ever seen on this website. Congrats.
>>318185652
Wouldn't know, Blizzard isn't boastful about it like Hearthstone. That's how you know it's shit, like SC2 and WoD.
Overwatch is going to be a success, just like all of Blizzards other shitty games. The fact that Hearthstone has tournaments says it all.
I had fun with the weekend beta and will probably buy this game, thanks.
>>318185761
hint: they're a corporation with shareholders
>>318178216
>it's been confirmed for a while that it's neither.
How the fuck is that possible
You either pay for the game or you dont, there's no in between on the f2p/p2p scale
>>318186457
If you read further, the retard explains it's P2P, they just have no fucking idea what P2P means or confused it with P2W.
>been in since early access alpha
>not a streamer
Feels fucking good.
>>318186891
I'm curious, how much dick did you have to suck? I've been surveying and it seems to be exponentially proportional to at least three dozen, with a going rate of 1 in every hundred thousand who don't suck off the entire dev team isn't in.
>>318186891
Hi metzen, any chance I can get an invite?
>>318180638
Yes, WoW truly has a horrible pay models, which is the reason it barely manages to scrape by for maybe a year or two with a few hundred users. Blizz probably barely breaking even with WoW, a lot of people haven't even heard of the game.
>>318180671
>>318181470
please, be a good man and bring us this delisauce
>>318187106
Zero dicks.
>>318187114
LOK'TAR!
>>318177536
Blizzard fucked up bad
I am in the beta either and am not a streamer or have a YT channel.
Just did most betas of blizzard releases. Maybe just luck.
>>318179410
Just came by to laugh at the idiot
>>318181625
The only popular overwatch streamer is a_seagull, and he gets no more than 4k viewers. All the big guns like trump, kripp, etc went back to HS after a day because overwatch killed their viewer count
>>318187179
>this post
I always think I have already seen the bottom of the braindead brand loyalty bucket, but there is always one shit-eater even below that.
My favorite meme is how blizz games never fail and are always succesful because WoW was.
Never mind the fact SC2 is dead, HOTS is a flop no one plays, and OW seems to be suffering the same fate due to the same terrible pre-release tactics that killed HOTS
>mfw got beta key and not a streamer or anyone special
>enjoying the fuck out of the game
>never ever bought a blizzard product in my life but gonna buy this one
Dunno, this game is really fucking fun, I'm fairly excited for it. hopefully I wont change my mind about this game post release, but there's always the chance of Actiblizzard fucking things up. Can't be worse than EA though, thankfully.
>>318177536
Game died when a price tag was announced tbqh.
Everyone just went back to TF2.
>>318189228
Why did people WANT the game to be P2W?
>>318189651
They didn't. They wanted their next F2P TF2 clone they could binge on for months at a time and forget about for years without having to shell out any money up front.
>>318189082
I wasn't aware of those facts. I never have problems finding games on hots in few seconds and the same goes for SC2.
There are hundreds of dead games but i wouldn't list any of blizzard games between those.
>>318189901
No, you don't get it, they're "dead" because this guy doesn't play or watch them
