What do you want from DMC5?
Let's try to keep expectations reasonable
>>318173070
Too many things
>>318173070
The weapon swapping system from DMC without the godawful "X weapon doesn't work on Y enemy" mechanic, since that was one of the few things that game almost got right.
Playable Virgil in NG+.
A good pc port.
>>318173070
Just improve on 4SE and I'll be happy
>>318173070
for it to be made.
oh right you said keep my expectations reasonable, never mind.
>>318175012
Actual weapon swapping is better that hold to use weapon
>>318175492
Ehh, I like it because you never have to cycle through weapons to get to the one you want. Just make it toggle instead of hold and it would be perfect.
Co-op multiplayer, option for local split screen and not online only.
More story details about Sparda
More fighting.less stupid puzzles..but that doesnt mean I dont want some puzzles to break up the action
More weapons
Thats pretty much it since DMC series is nearly perfect.
>>318175012
I prefer actual weapon swapping since that frees up other controls while giving you more options at the same time without having to hold down more than one button.
>>318175684
I find it annoying that it must be held to continue to use this weapon
Also it makes additional buttons necessary for weapon swapping which wouldnt work if they intend on keeping style switching, which getting rid of that would be a really fucking stupid move
>>318175309
Capcom has confirmed that a new DMC and a new dead rising are in the pipeline
And to a lesser extent Dantes VA mentioned that he's been hearing rumors of a DMC5
>>318173070
>What do you want from DMC5?
I wan-
>Let's try to keep expectations reasonable
Oh well never mind.
>>318176072
Like I said somewhere else, I'd like them to make it toggleable instead of hold. I played the game on PC and used AHK to make it a toggle anyways and I feel it worked better than the weapon swapping systems in any of the other games, even if they were better at almost everything else. Just having to press one button to get to the weapon I want is nice.
>>318173070
for it to be called DmC 2
>>318176171
Fair point with the style switching. When making my original post I forgot that I'd set it up to be a toggle on my PC and also that I've got a mouse with 14 extra buttons so button space wasn't something I had to worry about. I still think it's a better system but yeah with a controller it would be difficult to pull off.
I guess the ideal system for me would be one button that you hold/press, then you press dpad/button that equips the weapon or changes the style, like R1 up equips Rebellion and L1 down switches you to swordsmaster.
Dante:
>more than just three Devil Arms and three firearms; don't know how they'd implement that when everyone else has everything they need with them already, but I do hope they also bring back some of the weapons DMC4 was missing, like a new demonic laser weapon like Artemis or the thing from DMC1
>new gauntlet + greaves weapon with a mostly new moveset entirely
>bring back CRAZY Combos (or at least give them to Nero)
>CRAZY Meter that were sort of like Vergil's Concentration Meter: fill the meter up by styling on enemies, taunting, etc. As the meter builds up, your attacks do more damage, your attacks are altered, and you have access to more attacks
>buff his Styles
>somehow implement Quicksilver and Doppelganger Styles from DMC3
>more crowd control moves
Vergil:
>nerf that motherfucker
>but mostly keep him as is I guess
>give him a new gauntlet + greaves weapon like Beowulf
>maybe new weapons entirely?
Nero:
>give him weapon sets ala Bayonetta and all of his melee weapons should be Revv-able like the Red Queen
>give him CRAZY combos maybe?
Trish:
>keep Trish as is, but more moves in general
>give her more trap moves ala MVC3
>give her Pandora entirely
>Air Raid
>an actual DT form
>her concept art with the jacket as an alt costume
Lady:
>give her more weapons
>maybe a riot shield + riot prod or something
>plus more guns
>let her ride her bike from DMC3 in gameplay
In addition to all of those, I want either Lucia to come back OR we get a new DMC girl or something.
Jiggle physics
>>318177268
Also weapon switch offset from DmC should be in the game.
Hold the attack button while switching weapons to continue from there with the next weapon's combo from that point.
ALSO, Just Charge firearms with Dante, maybe Lady too. If you charge your firearms and let them go just as they are charged, they will automatically fire at Lv. 3 and will continue to do so for the next few seconds.
Also buff Dante's guns in general and bring back moves from DMC3 for several characters: Free Ride for Dante and Nero and Wild Stomp for Dante and Lady.
>>318177057
So more of a hot key system?
What about guns?
Take vergil for example he has 3 weapons but since you can swap back and forth you can get to any weapon he has with one button press
But Dante has 3 weapons and 3 guns so you have to have the cycle memorized, and their aren't enough buttons for that
Even though I play the games on pc I use a controller for them, I just can't do this genre on keyboard and there are lots if people who are the same
>>318177268
>an actual DT form
Anon I'm pretty sure Trish is always in her demon form.
>>318178091
Not according to Kamiya.
>>318178236
Kamiya isn't in charge of DMC so his word doesn't matter
>>318177765
Guns are the normal buttons, weapons are the dpad.
No gimmicks. Don't try to change up the play style unless it will benefit as much as the series benefited from styles. Just make a straightforward DMC -- good level design, bosses, and weapons. Two things the series has not been great with though have been platforming and enemy AI, so fix those. Take a page from Ninja Gaiden for the latter, and for the former, if you can't get it right don't do it at all.
>>318173070
Main want
>A finished fucking game
Side want
>A game about Sparda wrecking Mundu's face and laterEva's vag
If Dante is MC
>All weapons from previous games as unlockables for beating the game on harder difficulties
>Playble Nero with more fleshed out gameplay, as well as new weapons for him
>Playable Virgil, mix his DMC3 and DMC4 iteration to make an ultimate Virgil
>Alternate costumes to be all of Dante's older clothes, as well as shirtless Dante and winter coat Dante with smiley face
>More aggressive enemies
>Not repeating bosses
>>318178320
But muh style switching
Okami or Bayonetta Cameo.
or Gene?
>>318173070
DmC2
>>318179013
Style switching would just be on the other shoulder button.
>>318173070
DmC retconned
>>318175881
This is all I want. Even if it's only in bloody palace mode.
As much as a like the multiple characters for messing around I'd much rather have fewer much deeper and fleshed out characters than a ton of characters that aren't as deep.
It also would suck if they had to chop up the game to distribute levels to the different characters
>>318173070
Lots of Bayonetta references
>>318179443
Eww
>>318179149
Then devil trigger
And I really hope you aren't suggesting cycling through styles
>>318179287
A co-op BP has a shit ton of potential as long as the enemies get buffed health to compensate
It to exist and be good.
Nero to be the main protag instead of Dante.
I saw a cool suggestion way back before dmc4.
You upgrade your devil trigger but the gimmick is it changes your appearance, so like if you invest a lot into defense your dt gets spikes. 12 year old me or however old I was thought it was cool
No more fixed camera angles
Fuck Nero and everything related to 4
DmC costumes for Dante and Vergil
Nero or his sword
>>318180362
Tameem pls go
Uncle Dante with his DMC3 clothes and completely topless as alternate outfit choices.
>>318173070
Remove auto aim and bring back hold-to-lock-on (this will likely result in the forced removal or angel and devil weapons and bring back standard weapon switching, unless gun switching is removed)
Remove constant cutscenes and shitty post-processing from DmC
Remove one-way fuckery from DmC
Remove highly scripted boss fights from DmC
>>318179853
God no. Styles would use the same system as weapons where you hit a shoulder button then dpad or something to pick the style you want without having to cycle.
Also for DT you could actually have the same controls as normal if you just kept l2/r2 as the buttons to activate the weapon/style switch mode.
Trish and Dante buddy up with them getting married. No ugly pig girls like Lady. She can be in the secret ending, where she kill sherself because Dante picked his sexy mommy girlfriend.
>>318173070
For Dante, Trish and Lady to stop being walking parodies of themselves like they were in DMC4, go back to have some substance like DMC1 and DMC3.
>>318181102
Dante in 4 was an evolution of his self in 3. Trish and Lady weren't even all that different, I bet you're just pissed because of Lady's design change.
>>318180951
Sorry dude, you might as well go beg to Kamiya to direct the DMC series again, because only in his orginal vision Trish and Dante were an item.
In Itsuno's direction Trish and Dante don't even look like more than partners, hell, the way Trish is in DMC4 is completely unrecognizable from when she opened up to Dante at the end of DMC1 and their special appearance in Viewtiful Joe.
I want Donte.
>>318181357
There literally wasn't enough screen time between them to be sure, even in the special edition.
>>318180554
We are talking about a hypothetical sequel to 4, not the reboot
>>318180556
Having to go through an extra interface to style switch would make mid combo style switches even harder to pull off and likely just wouldn't work and take away one of the coolest parts of style switching in the first place
>>318181102
I agree.I like DMC1 Dante the best. DMC3 Dante was kinda an asshole. And 4 was too looney. Dante was fucking high as fuck in 4.
>>318181303
>Dante in 4 was an evolution of his self in 3.
You mean the exact same as 3, it seems his character didn't even develop from DMC1, he is literally a walking force of mischief in DMC4, in DMC1 Dante was perfectly balanced in being cool and absolutely crazy.
>Trish and Lady weren't even all that different.
Lady just stopped being revengebent sure, but you have got to be shitting me, or you never played DMC1 to begin with, if you say Trish "isn't that different" in DMC4, she is literally a seductress whose plan was to bring Sparda's Sword onto the Order to fuck things up, and didn't even asked Dante about it, at the end of DMC1 and Viewtiful Joe Trish is completely sensible and only acts with Dante knowing what she is going to do.
>I bet you're just pissed because of Lady's design change.
What the fuck? I loved the design change.
>>318181598
The very fact Trish acted in DMC4 without a single fucking care shows how different she is, that and the SE scene where she is somehow bothered by teens making out.
Completely different from her orginal self.
Why does Nero's personality get hate when he acts nearly the same as DMC1 Dante
Only when KYYYYRIE happens is when Gé can be jarring, but him screaming about her is almost as overplayed as Donte's FUCK YOU
vergil as the main character, he is too good for the "playable" treatment, he deserves his own game
>>318173070
Dante
More weapons
Useful and stylish ranged weapons
Melee weapons should stay as they are
Nero's devil arm was pretty cool
>>318182125
fuck no, DMC 1 Dante was a suave motherfucker, Nero screams all the fucking time
>>318182125
>he acts nearly the same as DMC1 Dante
You are joking, right?
Nero is a hot blooded dude who is constantly shouting, DMC1 Dante only lost his shit once, in LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT scene.
Not to say Nero is bad, he had his own brand of cool and his taunts were infinitely better than Dante's, but he is not in any way similar to DMC1 Dante.
>>318181824
This doesn't require any extra interface, at most dante would glow a little when the trigger was pulled to signify that he was about to change weapon/style.
If you have the buttons that select the style on the other side of the controller from the button that starts the switch I don't think it would even be any harder than it already is. If you're doing it with both hands it doesn't really take any more time than using the dpad does.
Also you could just, ya know, keep the dpad as the designated style thingy. There's no need to change it up for it to work with the weapon swapping system proposed, since the dpad would only swap weapons after R2 had been pressed.
>>318181883
A lot of what you're complaining about is because of the change of hands in DMC. You've got Kamiya's Dante in one game and Itsuno's Dante in the rest. I don't know what you expected with him or Trish in 4 but they were never going to be like they were in 1.
An actual good costume for Lady.
>>318173070
To be set after or to replace DMC2.
Lucia needs to come back so Dante can have three concubines.
That and Majin Form was fucking awesome.
>>318182883
What've you just posted is the supreme form of a bullshit excuse.
Change in Directors should never be an excuse for characters acting different, when a Director assumes control and he maintains the creative direction intact is the proof he knows what he is doing.
>>318182942
No to your whole post.
How about a Sparda prequel? What do you guys think?
>>318183380
He's better off as a legend.
>>318183284
Nah fuck you, it's a fine point.
>>318181830
Dante was drunk in DMC4. He was absolutely pissed. Just look at all the empty Jack Daniel's bottles in his office.
>>318173070
Vergil's descent to hell to acquire more power
>>318183380
They tried that and it canned before it even began.
>>318183570
Yes
>>318183412
>>318183380
DMCV: Written, directed and created by Hideo Kojima.
>>318183527
Dante had drinks in his office in all DMCs.
His place is situated among Night Clubs and Bars as a matter of fact.
>>318182380
>>318182492
Flat out wrong
He only throws bitch fits after his gf is stolen
Haven't played DMC game since the original at launch. Should I get DMC4 on PS4 for £12?
I've always been a fan of cuhrayzee games but never bothered with DMC for some reason.
>>318183568
So you want a game where Vergil can't possibly have more than two weapons and he gets raped by Mundus in the end.
Got it.
>expectations reasonable
considering dmc4 and the last 10 years of crapcum
>a faggot new character
>dante cameo so blind fanboys defend the game to the death
>everything else is shit
>40% of a full game
>backtracking!
>save the whore!
>main character is a emo cry baby faggot
>DLC FOR UNLOCKING DANTE!
>dante its only dante in name . face is different hair is different clothes are different and he acts different . just like every other character capcom touched in the last 10 years
>oh and he started the steroids treatment of Chris and Ryu and the rest of the sf cast
>>318183869
>after his gf is stolen
Which is pretty fucking early in the game, what's your point?
Before that Nero goes postal about any demon saying he is a demon as well, "ME HUMAN, NOT DEMON SCUM LIKE YOU"
>>318183927
He seems fine in DMC4. He could also acquire more weapons in Hell too. The game could play up to Mundus and then it fast forwards to a later point in time.
>>318184023
>main character is a emo cry baby faggot
So how is this different from normal?
>>318183568
It's been over 10 years since I played DMC3 so I can't remember it well anymore but wasn't Vergil in hell at the end? And he encounters some strong monster and then it fades to black?
>>318182649
This just sounds like trying to fix something that isnt broken
>>318184223
>He seems fine in DMC4.
by virtue of his gameplay not being influenced by the story, in-story he couldn't possibly be carrying Force Edge and Beowulf at that time.
>then it fast forwards to a later point in time.
At the time he exploded along with Mallet Island, or the time his body dissected to create the Bianco and Alto Angelos?
>>318184321
I assume you never played DMC1?
>>318184549
Ehh, I really dislike having to cycle through stuff, especially when trying to keep a combo going. The system in the games works well enough I guess but I think trying to add in a weapon swapping system that doesn't require any cycling would be a good thing for the next DMC.
>>318183870
>fan of cuhrayzee games but never bothered with DMC for some reason
>never both in with the father of cuhrayzee
Aside from that DMC 4SE is for combat junkies only really, it will get repetitive and the story and level designs aren't stellar, you will pretty much only enjoy it if you love the combat and like experimenting with it and getting good
>>318184695
Yeah, I haven't. I started it and beat the first stage but it aged so poorly, I dropped it.
I am a big fan of DMC3 and 4 though, so I might try again.
Is it because DMC3 is a prequel to 1?
>>318185057
>Is it because DMC3 is a prequel to 1?
Yes.
>>318184075
You didn't even play the game m8
She's stolen in mission 9 and you only play as Nero until mission 11
He only says the demon shit to credo in mission 8
When it actually comes to the banter with the demon bosses he is very much like DMC1 Dante
>>318185057
>but it aged so poorly
It is not as fluid as DMC3 and 4, but you have to some abomination with not taste to think DMC1 "aged poorly" to the point you couldn't stomach playing more than one mission.
DMC1 still has things its sequels never surpassed.
- Ambience, Mallet Island is magnificent.
- Final Boss, Mundus and Dante's exclusive transformation was a thing to behold.
>>318184890
Oh, I played the first one loads at launch, but never went back to the series after that.
I will wait for some more opinions first.
Put the DMC2 Dante design in a good game.
>>318173070
Flesh out Nero. Give him styles that change the function of the Devil Bringer.
Better textures.
40 missions with little reuse of bosses.
Theatre mode like Halo and CoD.
That's all.
>>318173070
A finished game
>>318185196
>He only says the demon shit to credo in mission 8
The very fucking first Boss after Dante, Berial, has Nero lashing out like an angry truck driver because the demon noticed right away Nero is from Sparda's bloodline.
A bearded Dante and more combos that combine gun attacks with melee attacks.
>>318173070
Weapons/Styles system from DMC3 and just don't fuck up the rest.
>>318185667
>more combos that combine gun attacks with melee attacks
>launch enemy into air
>shoot them with gun
Congratulations you did a combo that combined gun and melee attacks.
>>318185649
No he doesn't. The closest to lashing out he does is saying his arm drives him crazy, but he just plays around with Berial.
>>318185897
Okay, you just have not played the damn game.
Berial: "You... a Sparda?"
Nero (angry): "I'm human, I don't know what you are talking about!"
Dante vs Gene optional boss
Dante and Amaterasu, demon hunting special mission
Nothing. The series ran it's course. Just let it be finished.
What the fuck is wrong with people? Why do they want their media to be strung out over their entire lifetime?
>I'm looking at you, Doctor Who
>>318185369
Go rewatch that shit on YouTube right now and reread your comment
>>318186096
>You... a Sparda?
You definitely haven't played the game. He doesn't mention Sparda directly and that exchange you quoted never took place.
>>318173070
i would be down for a prequel with sparta as the MC
>>318186483
>sparta
meant to say Sparda
>>318186378
Meant for>>318185369
>>318186096
If you call a smart remark lashing out like an angry trucker you must be confused or not no how to tell the infliction of someone's voice or something
>>318186483
>>318186584
>Xbone version has a Master Chief alt outfit
I can dig it.
>>318186280
It hasnt though. We have no idea what Sparda actually did and theres still a whole lot you can do with the characters
Maybe a game like the anime where Dante actually does random contracts Peace Walker style until a big threat appears
>>318181883
Because the whole savior business is literally small-time to Dante and pals, they have no reason to take it seriously after killing the king of Hell in 1.
>>318186483
>>318186584
>story shows why sparda defected
>final boss is a showdown with mundus
Co-Op mainly. Could you imagine the absurd amounts of cuhrazy from two highly skilled players going fucking nuts at the same time
now imagine if they were well coordinated
>>318186818
What kind of reasoning is that?
Dante being powerful as all hell by the time DMC4 takes place is not an excuse to act independantly and rashly, people are still there to take be the collateral and be killed like insects.
Seriously, your post is pretty stupid.
>>318187203
All I can imagine from Co-Op is the game being ruined.
There isn't a single former Action Single Player series that actually got better by adding Multiplayer.
God of War Ascencion = Shit
Ninja Gaiden 3 = Shit
>>318187598
>he never played DMC3SE
>>318173070
Two player mode at least in Bloody Palace (fuck you it was possible in 3)
Unlockable versus mode with playable characters just like in Zone of the Enders
More costumes
>>318187425
When has he ever given a shit about collateral damage? You didn't see him crying over all those people who must have died due to Temen-Ni-Gru being revived.
>>318187853
That shit was available in vanilla DMC3 as well smartass.
Anyway are you seriously saying the Doppelganger and Arkham Blob fight is a dedicated Co-Op mode, not just a Bonus?
>>318188271
Never said "dedicated co-op mode", just "co-op", and you said the game would be ruined.
The game wasn't ruined.
How was Bayonetta 2's co op?
I think it would be great in DMC5 for the whole story to be Co Op, but with a 2nt player it basically kicks up to being Legendary Dark Knight Mode with the amount of enemies it spawns. Game comes out with Dante/Nero, DLC of Trish/Lady, then more DLC of Veril/Nelo Angalo. Maybe DMC2 girl as well.
Fuck Devil May Cry
Bring back Onimusha.
>>318189723
I think a co op DMC campaign would be annoying as hell I don't want an AI getting in the way.
>>318173070
>What do you want from DMC5?
For it to be made at all.
>>318189723
>DMC5 is made co-op
>you play online and encounter people just riding on your skill, not contributing to the rank or worse actively trying to fuck you up by interrupting your attacks
>or you play offline and the AI does nothing but interrupt your attacks so you can never get anything above an A
No thanks.
>>318190803
Nightmare mode:collision detection
>>318190967
Dante Must Diefriendly damage
>>318191112
CUHRAZYshared health pools
>>318191112
Couldn't you build up royal guard with that though?
>>318182887
I like the short jacket. The rest of the design needs a lot of work or to be pitched, but I like the jacket, somehow works with the gun holster straps and all.
>>318191316
Probably but that would be some advanced shit deflecting not just enemy attacks but your buddies attacks at the same time.
Openworld
Sidequests
City hubs and many talkable and intractable NPCs
Good PC optimization
Lady, Trish sex scenes
Vergil, Dante and Nero all playable characters
>>318191316
I'd royal release on his ass until he learned to stay the fuck away.
Open world
Less difficult
Should be able to create a character
More focus on story
>>318189723
Tag Climax was actually great.
>>318191423
>>318191528
Royal release a royal release.
I want a staff/caneweapon
>>318191672
>Leaving out romance options
>Leaving out progressive romance options
>>318191672
>Should be able to create a character
I know you just wanted to bait post but honestly this isn't a bad idea. You could be playing as one of many demons/humans that wanted to join DMC so a much older Dante tests you himself then you're assigned to a DMC branch in EU or somewhere. It could be mission based with a mission select screen done in the style of an answering machine and it could have several locations all over EU. Complete the game and you get to play as the boss himself, Dante.
Throw in customization combos, God Hand style and I personally think it could be something great.
Change the lock-on system to be more like the Souls series: locking on always puts the player's back to the camera and you switch targets by moving the right stick in their direction.
Get rid of all fixed camera angles or just don't use them in any areas where there are enemies.
>>318191928
Vergil
>>318173070
More and better weapons for Dante (like in DMC3)
Dante, Virgil and Nero playable with (mostly) unique missions
Good camera for once
All playable characters get Nero tier taunts
>>318178236
Is Dante even supposed to have a demon form according to DMC1? He'd only change appearance in DT when attacking, and he'd look completely different with each devil arm. I got the impression that all DT was originally supposed to be was tapping into each weapon's full power and the later game's misinterpreted it as Dante's demon form.
An explanation of how Sparda died.
Dante & Nero playable. Dante plays as usual while Nero gets different styles for himself too, based around the Devil Bringer.
Like DMC4SE, Lady and Trish are playable as alts of Dante and Nero, but with actual campaigns.
Online multiplayer like Bayonetta 2.
>>318192047
>you fight the Monkey King
>you get his staff
>Goku/Son-Son shenanigans
>Power-Pole extending and shit
Hell yeah
Bring back Devil Trigger moves like Air Raid and Vortex.
