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Will Kiiro become playable in CF?
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Celica A. Mercury? More like Celica A. Shitty!
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Noel thread
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Finally figured out how to change the room settings. I didn't realize in adjust you had to hit create room again.

I'll stop passing now that I've got this figured out.
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>Gender bent character = transgender

those that think this need to be gassed.
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Go back to /a/ you fucking losers.
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>>318169925
Just ignore it and don't take the bait.
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>>318169703
>Sol: 18 belts (Assuming symmetrical design)
>Ragna: 2 belts (Unless those weird strings are belts as well, then 4 belts)
I love them both though.
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>>318169984
Stay off of /v/ you fucking weeboos.
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>>318168482
I was talking mostly about the visuals, so I'm not sure

longer range but also longer recovery. You can still combo off of it
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Everybody do your best to appreciate Tsubaki today
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>>318170287
Tsubitchy a shit.
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Die,Ragna the Bloodedge.
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Will there be a Pretty Girl Detectives: Team Remix Heart reunion in CF?
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>>318170075
I just want Ragna to pat my head.
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>>318170839
>>318170839
They really called themselves that? Also ,aren't you missing one?
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HAKUMEN-SAMA!
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>>318171209
Yes, they did. It's not exactly a serious name. The original group included Kajun, Mai, Makoto, Noel and Tsubaki. Shiori joined in later.
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>>318171209
Yes.

Also, do you mean Shiori? She happens later.
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BB is gonna have more gag endings right?
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>>318171367
Lewd!
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All right, I can do one more. I've got stuff to do soon, but I'll try to play some more later.
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>playing ASW fighters
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Welcome to Blazblue General

Previously >>318101329, >>318024823, >>317938475, >>317908984, >>317841908, >>317791905, >>317717819, >>317621347, >>317537249, >>317438106, >>317316115, >>317252093, >>317176615, >>317142573, >>317082492, >>317142037

-NEWS-
http://www.dustloop.com (All of it)

-Match Videos-
youtube.com/user/Jourdal15Plus
youtube.com/user/Jourdal2012

-Initial Character Summaries for BBCF-
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s660/sh/60bcf7c3-9fbc-4345-97e5-4a35e48cd036/fcb8fe6db58eae3206d730f6b27dd236

>BBCF Art Stuff
http://www.blazblue.jp/cf/ac/special.html

-HOW 2 GIT GUD-
>top players list & info
http://pastebin.com/gKNwAkKL

>Manga and light novels
Read online:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/?title=BlazBlue (Phase 0, Phase Shift 1, Phase Shift 2)
Direct download:
https://mega.nz/#!SwAkXYyY!fP_vOhfef0PCgDha2JG0oEtydzrKIbbwceviitdYhlM (Remix Heart)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2lxw7h8bathoqrw/BlazBlue+Remix+Heart+v1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/optcahwyt039ihu/BlazBlue+Remix+Heart+v2.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4twddihncoqtujj/BlazBlue+Remix+Heart+v3.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/xeyykea2ypv5n0z/BlazBlue_Remix_Heart_v4.rar

>Story stuff
http://blazblue.wikia.com/wiki/BlazBlue_Wiki
http://pastebin.com/LiE0cyhn

>Bururaji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqQedMbmnc (episode 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJq7oippj_s (episode 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6cOMlhNu50 (episode 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjMaAPwOYM4 (episode 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1bqGW8zqkw (Spring Raid Special, part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T_dGvrF4IE (SRS, part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHX-FFeiPBw (SRS, part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNK7oDB4-E (SRS, part 4)
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>>318172296
ggs m8
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>>318172730
Sorry I played like a scrub. I haven't had time to play much with finals and shit around the corner.
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Jourdal just uploaded a CF Bang combo video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Wd6twDWbU
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>>318172421

What's wrong with them?
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Why does does it feel like I'm watching a whole new character fighting? CF Ragna is the same but seems different at the same time to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJ0Gy4q6bU
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>>318169816
>pantsu
fake and gay
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when's Trinity?
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DEAD SPIKE
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Quick! This thread needs a blessing!
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>>318175936
Never.
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>>318177178
nice /asg/ meme
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>>318177510
>>318177519

I don't understand how people like Platinum as a character and sexually appease them.
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>>318177805
I love to hate her.
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>>318177805
They're pedophiles.
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>>318177519
she already left that shithead Plat and found a better host (Jin)

the next step is becoming playable, you just wait
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>>318175253
Mostly it's the removal of Belial edge and replacing it with Nightmare edge which brings different combo routes.

On the other hadn Terumi looks fun as fuck to play as now holy shit. So nice to see 22C>236D>5A work.
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Maybe the new character that everyone was just saying was Jin is actually a Grunt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2-nXFDmWyg
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>>318177510
>Platinum
>A Blessing
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>>318178315
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>>318169925
>>318170005
What i miss?
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>>318178936
just Alpha

so nothing important
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>>318179026
Someone shitpostin' about Alpha being trans? Brilliant
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>>318179026
>Alpha
>not important
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What's with the heroines of Arc games being born on Christmas? Okay, they weren't actually born on those dates but their adoptive parents gave them that birthday.
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>>318179673
Waifufags are the fucking worst.
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>>318180084
If you say your adopted kid's birthday is Christmas, you only have to give them one set of presents.
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>>318180084
Noel and Dizzy are the Jesuses of their respective settings.
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>>318179673
>people unironically want another murakumo
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>>318180462
Not just any Murakumo, Ragna as a Murakumo.
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>>318180223
Well they were to their parents. The little media that mentions them say they loved them as if they were their own daughters. I would love to see Noel's parents faces if she visits and brings Lambda with her. Or Dizzy's when she goes back and tells them she married a king and had a child with him.
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>>318180635
Noel's parents seem awesome. Sure, daughter of mine, go topple the world government, we're with you 100%.
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>>318180553
honest question, what do we even know about her?

couldn't she be just another Saya clone?
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>>318181631
Ragna from the future, probably
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>>318181631
We don't know jack, she's just a drawing by Mori in an artbook and twitter posts.

She has Ragna's Azure Grimoire arm and eyes though.
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>>318181613
Meanwhile Makoto's household is hilarious child abuse, Tsubaki's is indoctrination on full retard and Mai's retarded Gendo style.
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>>318181631
It's not a real character. Just a design that Mori has posted a few times.
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>>318181950
in other words, alphafags cling to literally nothing
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>>318180223
Axl was born on Christmas, what does that make him?
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>>318182317
Lewd fodder
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>>318170287
alright
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>>318182889
Mori knew what he was doing.
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>>318181631
Higher chance of Alpha being the proper fusion of Ragna and Nu.
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Any lobby up?
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>>318183374
>Mori knew what he was doing.
>Mori
>knew what he was doing
>Mori
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>>318184129
His franchise is doing pretty well, so yes he does know what he's doing.
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>>318184129
Yeah, but all the fanart though.
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>>318184129
>>318183396
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Is there a Saturday lobby up?
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>>318183673
>>318184906
there, you guys can play together

there was one lobby up a while before, not sure if it's still there, just search in the game first
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>>318185023
what if they're both the same person
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>>318183396
>Nu wins the Ragna bowl so hard they become one

I dig it
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>>318185674
And then we get this. Everybody wins.
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>>318185674
>>318185932
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All hail the lucky couple!
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>>318186220
All hail.
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>>318185674
>>318184906
>>318183673
what if you three are the same person
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>>318186657

shit meant >>318185176

not >>318185674
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>>318185023
>>318186657
Nobody respond to me in time so I went to play Xrd
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Honestly I don't actually like playing Blazblue, I just like the characters and story
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>>318187034
Okay
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>>318187034
I hate the story and the characters, I just like playing the game
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>>318187305
make a lobby
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>>318187369
I got fish in the oven right now, I'll play later after I eat
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BFF's sharing a condo gag end when?
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>>318187870
>>318187961
pls leave
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The guy who has the room "nine sucks cat di" are you in the US?
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why are unlimited characters on
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Why is Nine/Jubei the best ship?
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>>318188567
you mean Rachel/Ragna
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>>318188567
What about Bang/Kagemaru?
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>>318188567
Anon please.
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>>318189193
you again
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When will Arc System Works acquire Examu and French Bread?

We know it will happen. The question is "when?"
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>>318189814
How do you know that it is certain it will happen anon?
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>>318189814
will they make RBO2 then?
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What out for Naoto Shirogane he's currently responsible for

>Making Rachel cry
>Threatening Ragna's very existence
>Giving Relius a curiosity boner
>Making Murakumos angry
>Beating on the elderly
> Letting his harem get killed even through all of them are yanderes
>raiding a chunibyou's closet and passing it off as his own
>Ripping off SNK
> Making even the nicest of the murakumos wanna murk him
>Invading swift justice
>Attempted sibling cide.
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>>318190267
>not a pedoedge
he's okay
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should I play Mu-12?
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>>318191782
she's okay, go for it
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>>318190267

Nine also wants him dead.
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>>318191782
If you like her cute butt, sure
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>>318191782
do you prefer boobs or asses?

if it's the latter, then yes
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Let's be honest, Mu can show off her ass all she wants it's still a completely flat ass
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>Implying the wheel of fate is turning

You're all being lied to.
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>>318189416
And now I want a BBxAH crossover. Fuck BBxGG.

There might be too many waifus though.
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>>318194563
It's still cute
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>>318194563
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>>318177805
I just like bratty characters, and she does it well
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>>318195047
>mfw Rachel gets snubbed as May/Plat are the loli representatives in BBxGG
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>>318195047
Please do not sexualize the May
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>>318195047
>I just like bratty characters
Why though?
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>>318195183
not happening, since Rachel would be included as one of the actually relevant representatives
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which mecha girl is easiest to play? haven't played fighters much other than street fighter.
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>>318195387
Mu-12
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>>318195387
Lambda

in CPEX she's the weakest tho
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>>318195183
It'd be better than having someone in a wheelchair represent.

>>318195294
They're cute.
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>>318195047
May isn't bratty
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>>318195447
sometimes I feel like playing Mu just because her theme is pretty cool
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>>318195387
Lambda, Mu, Nu in that order. All of them have tricky things though.
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>Pandora Tears not the Ragna VS Mu theme

Why?
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>>318195294

More fun to molest.
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>>318178315
What is this?
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>>318197234
Outside of Continnum Shift there's really no reason for it. Besides, Ragna vs Noel/Mu matches are fucking annoying, It's like listening to two kids fighting over bullshit at worse and like some weird flirting at best. What the hells with these two?
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>>318197065
Lambda's playstyle is exactly the same as Nu,
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>>318198440
A crippled Nu with awful zoning in CPEX.
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>>318198525
Maybe if you're retarded or don't play the game, sure.
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>>318169585
We already got a Gary Stu in there, so fuck, what's even stopping those shitty fan characters I saw last night from getting in? Why don't we stick in the feat of creativity that is Ragna the Grimreaper? He lost BOTH arms, and he's from a different continuity where the church burning was 10x as edgy and "tragic", so why not? I'm sure he's different enough for ArcSys to seriously consider putting him in, considering that Naoto managed to squeeze through!
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Which healer is more annoying to fight against, Celica or Elena?
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>>318198653
What are you talking about it's a commonly known fact that lambda is one of the worst characters in the game
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>>318199318
Elena.
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>>318199318
Elena, no question.
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>>318199529
Elena, Celica's healing is as bad as Ragna's life steal so it's meaningless
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Sugita best system voice
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god damn i can't get the timing down on any of makoto's shit.
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>>318198440
>>318198653
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>>318200550
I hate you guys sometimes.
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Lambda is one of the lower ranked characters, but she isn't that bad. If you're having that hard of a time winning with her, it is because you're shit at the game. Get better.
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>>318200880
literally nobody said you can't win with her

dude starts saying they have the exact same playstyle, and proceeds to call people retarded after being corrected

seriously what did you expect?
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>>318200438
But they made her "better" this version by buffing level 2 attacks~ And of course the input window is even tighter than her advanced level 3 combos, and obviously that works out super well for her in netplay~
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>>318201891
Was she really that broken in CS2? I'v never played it.
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Should I try to learn Tsubaki or Noel in addition to Jin or just stick with Jin?
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>>318202501
Way higher damage across the board, and Space Loop were the main broken things she had.
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>>318202813
I feel like it makes sense for her to do more damage than she currently does though.
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>>318202813
It sounds like you're downplaying it. She was incredibly broken. If she had been in CS1 or CSE, rather than the short-lived CS2, it would've been far worse.

You thought CP Kokonoe was broken? Hah.
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>>318202723
It's always useful to play more than one character.
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>>318202723
Tsubaki, definitely Tsubaki, Noel as no place near Jin. It's really ideal for you to learn Tsubaki because if you already know Jin you should easily be able to pick on Tsubaki's tricks, I mean, they compliment each other so well it's like they were meant to be used in tandem with each other in a perfect combination, If anything, trying to learn Noel will just diminish your Jin game.
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>>318203332
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>318203023
>People don't remember her parry glitch that let you cancel literally anything at any point and made her the best character in the game by an insane margin
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This is now a terumi thread, post terumi pics of terumi trolling the cast.
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>>318203332
you forgot the part when they remove their clothes and fuck
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>>318203732
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>>318203790
Delete this.
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>>318188567
Disgusting furry bitch.
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>>318203560
That's what he was talking about; the Space Loop.

Also, her frame-1 invuln fullscreen punish.

Fuck Makoto. She should be shit for the rest of the series. She deserves it.
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>>318204301
no
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>>318204435
Fuck you man I wasn't around for those days
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>>318204301
Even a dude has better tits and ass than you!
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>>318204501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCr1Hj4rJsU
You didn't miss out on much.
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>>318204501
Well. You know. Sins of the father and whatnot.
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>>318203332
Tsubaki, go back to watching your Hakumen flicks.
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>>318204435
>filename
>mfw Rachel and Makoto in the fucking tier trenches and Amane is good
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Can anyone recommend characters that are pretty good for beginners? I don't really like the MC.
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>>318204435
You must work for ASW.

This cycling tier list where the previously broken characters get crippled for the next game makes no sense.

Even if they're broken DLC characters. Heck, Kokonoe is still pretty good.
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>>318204668
He may be a madman, but he's a madman with a plan.
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>>318204668
>B Tier
>Trench
Sure thing
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>>318204668
Cute grils
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>>318204752
Jin, Noel, Tsubaki, Tager and Celica.

Tend to not be execution heavy with decent neutral options. Tager is an exception, in that he's a grappler, but in CPE he might just be the easiest grappler in fighting game history.
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>>318204752
Celica is specifically catered to beginners. She's got easy inputs, her Drive is similar to the autocombo system for Persona 4, and she does pretty good damage for minimal effort.

Jin is the standard jackofalltrades character. He has s tool for every situation. Multiple DPs that cover various scenarios, and good spacing tools.
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>>318204752
Ragna isn't good for beginners anyway

I'd say this is a good list >>318204979
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>>318170287
Tsubaki is OLEV.
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>>318205749
Tsubaki is LBIND
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>>318205895
Don't bully the Baki pls
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>>318204979
tsubaki seems kind of hard to be honest
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>>318206272
what was written on that paper?
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>>318206176

Alright I'll cool it with the bling jokes, although I can't see why you're getting so upset.
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Ragna is such a fucking murakumo fag in the anime, "THIS IS FOR NOEL AND LAMBDAAAA" Fucking really? Does Saya not matter at all in Mori's mind? She's less important than fucking Linhua who has a voice, a cgi and actually got her whole face shown.
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>>318206553
why is she spamming C? Not gonna win anything like that
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>>318206781
That's the D button, dingus.
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>>318206907
d is on the bottom.
a b c
d

she's mashing tsubaki's two hit c I think,
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>>318206907
I knew that, I was just making sure you knew it.
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>>318206907
>he uses A Type
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>>318206781
>>318206907
Could be anything, who knows what she mapped there.
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>>318192595

So she's pretty much the player's avatar?

Though then again if we did actually have player's avatar, we'd also want someone to rip Celica's throat out and slap Kagura across the face, as well as punch Litchi in the cunt.
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>Nulliplex restriction mechanism release, dimensional interruption imaginary number developing. Connecting to congenital border. Activating Tsukuyomi Unit.

Fucking hell, Mori, did you go full chunni with this chant or what?
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Can Ragna be saved?
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>>318206176
Tsubaki is obsessed with justice, and justice is...
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>>318207890
sto]
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>>318207841
That's what you're pointing out? Not "Restriction 666 released"?
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>>318203790
>make femterumi
>give her dandere eyes instead of edgeliner
>take off shitstomper shoes
>ship her with Ragna
what in the actual fuck is any of this shit
Why do I want it so bad
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>>318207890
... is me
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>>318208009
The ridiculous amount of strange words she says as a fucking death beam is heading at her. If Rachel is strong enough to do some shit like that how come she doesn't just murk Terumi
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Why did Litchi have to turn into such an insufferable bitch?
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So i bought Chronophantasma yesterday only to find out Extend is on sale on the Playstation store.
Is it worth buying it again or not?
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>>318208294
she just wanted the d
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>>318208376
People actually play Extend, so yes.
Yes that means ranked and player rooms, haven't been in arcade lobby recently myself though.
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Anyone else kinda scared of a GG Vs. BB? I mean chances are Celica will be in the roster and then she'll taint GG's settings with her shittiness like she tainted BB's.
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>>318208376
if you're completely new to the game, try out CP for little while and see if you enjoy the overall game

the sale goes until Nov 30, so you can buy Extend then if you want

or just see if you can return your CP copy
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>>318208294

Because Mori couldn't figure out anything else for her to do. Or just fucking hates her.
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A reminder that Terumi did nothing wrong.

Relius also did nothing wrong.
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>>318208636
>Celica in the roster,
>All the GG cast go gagaga over her and shower her with compliments. The Valentines become best friends with her and she's needed to stop the whatever that's fucking with time and space in this game's story and both casts immediately tend to her and That Man makes a quip that if she were in his world, a lot of things could of been different.
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>>318208519
>>318208657
Alright, thanks guys
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>>318208242
That's a result of the translation. For some reason, they took a different direction from Ragna's incantation, even though the two are in many ways identical in Japanese.

In Continuum Shift and Chronophantasma, if it used the same conventions as Ragna and Terumi's BlazBlue activation phrases, then it would actually be something like this:

>Restriction #0 released, Dimenstional Interference Field deployed. Link to the Boundary engaged. Tsukuyomi Unit, activate.

Compare to Ragna's own:
>Restriction #666 released, Dimensional Interference Field deployed. Idea Engine engaged. BlazBlue activate.

Besides, none compare to Nu's version:
>Murakumo Unit released, Dimensional Interference Field deployed. From beyond the realm of souls and birth, I call upon Ur's sword to bring ruin upon my enemies. Perish.

>
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>>318208967
I can see it so vividly it hurts.
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Celica was a mistake. loli-dom and sister clone need to go back to being the main love interests.
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>>318208914
Terumi killed Tomonori.
In self defense, but whatever, crazy future magic laws.
Everything else was either necessary, fun AND necessary, or to get even.
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>>318207890
A GEAR.
>>318208214
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>>318208636
I doubt GG vs BB is gonna happen anytime within the next 5~6 years

I'm more surprised ASW haven't made BB x P4A just to recycle sprites from both games and make easy money
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>>318209469
10 year anniversary of BB and 20 year anniversary of GG are coming up.
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>>318209697
30th anniversary of ASW, 20th anniversary of GG and 10th anniversary of BB are all in the same year, which is 2018.

So, yeah, announcement for such a game will most likely be made in that year.
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>>318206553
Can we get more of these?
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https://twitter.com/Valthazeryus/status/669671875195179013
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>>318209350
Yes.
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>>318210009
she shot one beam
then another one
then I thought it was over
but there was another beam
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>>318209469
How would a BB x P4A even work? Give Personas to the BB cast? Make the Persona casts' Drives be their Personas? That sounds even more unreasonable than a BB x GG.
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>>318210341
Not all P4A characters have Personas. They're also both 4 button games.

It'd be pretty easy to be honest.
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>>318210009
Kinda reminds me of Aoko's Arc Drive.
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>>318210341
maybe make it a tag fighter? Each duo being one BB + one P4, I dunno

honestly I've played very little P4A, I just saw those sprites and expected ArcSys to milk the hell out of them
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>>318208636
I hope there is a GG v BB and Celica is the protagonist just so that I can see you throwing a fit.
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>>318210649
1 character doesn't have a Persona.
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>>318211012
And he works fine in the game. No reason that more wouldn't as well.
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>>318211349
Why would you remove the defining features of a franchise though? I mean, yeah, you could remove them. But then they're no longer Persona at that point.
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>>318210993
Celica could just stay with the GG cast while they're at it
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>>318211987
I'm not saying that you'd have to remove them. What I meant was Blazblue characters wouldn't need Personas to compete. Sho doesn't have one and he does just fine.
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So in Melty Blood Act Cadenza, there was this co-op thing, where you can get two characters together and they can fight another two characters. It was terribly executed and literally no one used it, plus the game wasn't really made with four separate characters in mind in the first place, but forget that for a sec.

When you put two characters together into a team, they were given a team name. Each team had a unique name. For instance, Shiki and Sion formed "Midsummer Night's Dream", and Shiki and Satsuki was "Unrequited Love, Continuing Even At Zero Distance".

If BlazBlue had a similar mechanic, what would the team names be?
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>>318212409
But he does have one.
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>>318212468
>Nine and Jubei
Barbed Fury
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>>318212468
>Carl and Kokonoe
I Hate My Father
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>>318212885
That's Minazuki, not Sho.

There's a difference. A stupid, pedantic difference, but a difference nonetheless.
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>>318212885
Ok, whatever.
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>>318212409
Ah, okay, I get what you're saying now.

>>318212885
If the post Ultimax story is anything to go on. But they've milked the P3 and 4 characters for all they're worth. Let them rest ffs.
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>>318212468
>Relius and Carl
Clover Family Reunion

>Hazama and Terumi
Snakes of Battle

>Relius and Valkenhayn
Immortal Breakers

>Hakumen and Jin
Order Over All
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>>318210649
A lot of the persona cast would get destroyed because of persona mechanics. Imagine Hibiki's drive, except they all had it, were all super free if their shit got tagged by a 5A gatling'd into a 5C or 2B, and if they got broke x amount of times they're half a character.
You could take away the Persona card system entirely I guess, but Persona doesn't have ukemi or barrier so you'd have to rework a lot of moves to actually do shit against the defense mechanics. You'd also need to make certain Persona attacks x invuln to be worth using because they're still going to be free if they get called out.
It wouldn't be easy. Just make GG x BB.
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>>318212468
Ragna & Noel: 「蒼のバカップル」
Ragna & Jin: 「兄パラダイス」
Ragna & Rachel: 「うさぎさんとわんこちゃん」
Ragna & Terumi: 「いや、これぜったいむり。」
Ragna & Nu: 「一つになったんだ‼ (お願いだからやめてくれ)」
Ragna & Celica: 「どこでもいっし! (…っつーか、ここどこ?)
Ragna & Tsubaki: 「ラジオ漫才コンビ」
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>>318214058
Maybe this game could work instead.
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>>318210763
>>318210062
>>318208953

Need one of Makoto where her tail is her hood
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>>318214590
It's weird. I fucking hate Makoto's ENG dub, but Labrys' makes me diamonds. It has to be more than the accent

Also, Labrys best toaster.
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>>318214624
Makoto doesn't have any fanart in the Umaru outfit.
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Why do some people say Noel is good for beginners and some say she's not because she'll teach you bad habits?
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>>318215245
She's relatively easy to learn, but a lot of people get too used to the crutch that her drive's invuln has.
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