This isn't censorship.
>>318106562
Still not censorship.
>>318106938
>>318107340
>>318107432
>i'm going to repeat it until it's true
SJWs, everyone
>>318107432
this will be censored in the final release
Absolutely no one forced them to censor. They did this entirely of their own volition.
Self censorship is still censorship.
>>318108034
Exactly. It's not censorship, it's cowardice.
>>318108034
People would rather invent reasons to argue and shitpost than actually sit down and calmly assess the situation.
It's why GG was so successful on here and why people are crawling over one another to import DOAX3 even though it has half the features and twice the DLC.
This place is irredeemable senpai, look at this guys over here >>318108121 >>318108158
>>318108158
So it's cowardice unless they're sticking it to SJW's.
Then it's worth paying $200 to import shitty games just to stick it to imaginary spectres in the dark rather than blaming the industry for all the shit that they've pulled, in addition to cowtowing self-important feminists.
>>318106562
>>318106938
>>318107340
>>318107432
>>318107557
All censorship
calling capitalism censorship...BAKA to be honest senpai
>>318108314
I think that may have been OP's point.
You see, he was utilising a very clever technique called sarcasm.
It's very rare on the internet, but it's always hilarious.
>>318108314
All decisions made by the devs to appeal to a wider audience.
Not censorship.
>>318108451
CENSOR THIS
>>318108491
All decisions made because of fear of SJW backlash.
Censorship.
DOAX3 isn't censorship, they just decided not to release the product in the West
>>318106938
>>318107340
>>318107557
>>318107432
These are all censorship, except the Mika and BS pics don't show the censored versions
>>318106562
This is a marketing decision.
>>318106938
This is censorship.
>>318107340
This is also censorship.
>>318107432
This is standard editing while in original development.
>>318107557
This is censorship.
Does Christbro think censorship make these games more Christian?
What's with the Wii games?
calling SJWs out on censoring games really triggers them
>>318108034
Self censorship our of fear of retribution is censorship
>Not being able to publish a media product out of fear
This is the textbook definition of censorship
>>318106938
What the fuck did they do to her leggs?
>>318108034
Yeah, just like American authors in the 50s weren't censored because they could have written anything they wanted
After all, the only negative consequences would have been a trial :^)
>>318108852
out of fear of what? SJW's calling their game bullshit..damn, sounds scary
what a joke..lol
It's a business decision based on the perception of a foreign market. Kinda like how Inticreates thought removing half the text in Gunvolt was fine because Americans don't like reading.
>>318108624
Which they felt was a sound business decision which would attract a wider audience.
Not censorshipThe only ones who give stock in SJW's are either SJW's themselves or dipshits like /v/ that want to fight against boogiemen even when it's clear as day that they aren't actually doing anything.Before you cite DOAX3, the whole thing is a marketing scam meant to draw in controversy, like Hatred or Dragon's Crown.
>>318108798
>Companies that made the game censor themselves
>This is somehow wrong
>>318108968
Fear of the SJW PR backlash dingus. Just read their post.
>>318108798
>list of things censored
>literally the first point is "an ATTEMPT" to censor
stopped reading there
>>318108279
>>318108365
>>318108451
>>318108531
>>318108612
>>318108703
>>318108914
The Wii truly was the king of shovelware. I guess thats what happens when 70% of the owners are middle age/seniors.
>>318108928
Who's going to sue them because they have bikini girls in their game?
>>318109009
Fucking slit your throat SJW. Your kind is cancer to the world.
>>318107557
this is cultural censorshit. one of new standards of censorshit in america.
>>318106562
It technically isn't censorship but assuming the CM wasn't bullshitting, it was a decision heavily influenced by a group of people (who weren't even the target market for the game).
>>318108034
>When people don't pander to your worldview, harass them on social media, run a smear campagin, and do everything in your power to get them fired, and destroy the game
>"They chose to censor it themselves! No one forced them to do it!"
They were forced.
>>318109009
>attract wider audience
That audience never will buy it no matter what's changed, or added to appeal to them. It's censorship.
>>>/tumblr/
>>318108907
the japanese one had an actual human body because 13 year olds can have hips whoulda thunk it?
So for the American version they fucked her proportions so she wouldn't look hot. They tried to make a child, but made a dwarf instead
>>318109084
They'll find a way, just you wait.
But seriously, both sides of this GG/SJW bullshit absolutely reek of McCarthyism.
>>318109080
>Implying that most vidya libraries weren't shovelware.
The only ones who didn't have shovelware were consoles that either nobody bought or nobody could be arsed to program for.
>>318108798
why is there a ninja at the un
Weebs getting triggered over their ching chong games being censored is my fetish.
>/v/ will never EVER stop getting mad at capitalism
>>318109067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempt
>>318109159
Actually, in context that tweet is a harmless joke.
She clarified that she meant that some PR people were going to be going nuts over it.
I think she's even pro-GG.
>>318109134
I should've put a trigger warning in my post.
>>318109174
Not them, but did they actually change her model?? I just thought that pic was shit and it was just costumes changed.
>>318109325
You should have out a noose around your neck
>>318109169
Never said it was a smart business decision, just said that it was probably a better explanation than assuming that SJW's have found a way to harass an Asian company that probably can't even understand English, let alone understand whatever the fuck they're on about.
>>318106562
This isn't censorship
>>318106938
>>318107340
>>318107432
>>318107557
This is.
>>318109046
If it was done in the original editing process before any official release, like the Street Fighter 5 stuff, its fine.
Changes made after the original official release in reaction to public or internal outcry, including localization teams who had no involvement in the original creation of the product changing the product to suit their own tastes or those of their own culture, thus robbing a product of its own inherent cultural identity, is censorship and thus wrong.
>>318109383
#Triggerwarning
You seem upset senpai.
>>318109524
No it's not.
They can do whatever they want with it, it's their property.
>>318109347
we won't find out until the 4th when people immediately buy a swimsuit to put her in.
I never want her in my party due to her shitty class, but she's story important so i'll have to deal with her for like 80 hours
>>318109585
>muh property rights
>>318109543
>Some autist took time out of their life to make this
What's her name again?
>>318109447
It's safe to say when it involves Nintendo games, and treehouse has their hands on it, it's actual censorship though. There's zero denying it if you've seen who the treehouse employees are.
>>318109543
>le "i'm going to make to a meme image to invalidate your meme image" meme.png
>>318109513
THIS GAME WAS LEGIT
>>318109524
How dare the internet censor valve's decision to introduce paid mods!
Responding to public outcry isn't censorship, it's a business decision. It becomes censorship when the government responds to public outcry and changes regulations.
>>318109067
>they tried to censor it
>but they didn't succeed
>so you have to pretend like the agenda to censor Bayonetta never existed
Nah. Trying to censor Bayonetta was a shitty thing to do, regardless of how successful it was.
>>318109642
So people shouldn't be able to alter their creations, that they paid for?
Sounds like you're the anti-freedom one here.
>>318109672
>>318109742
Fuck off SJWs
>>318108798
>& Knuckles
>>318109723
Treehouse employees are simply doing it because they get paid by the hour not by the edit.
Rather than doing it simply to lick SJW boot, they're doing it so that they can earn more money by inventing reasons for why most of the game needs to be censored.
If anything, this shows how fucked up localization companies are rather than how SJW's have any real pull in the industry.Though I suspect Allison is spiteful since that one fag spammed her inbox with dog gore but that's unproven.
>>318109046
They don't exist in a vacuum completely isolated form outside pressure stupid. You think capcom employees went through all that trouble of animating Mika's butt slap just so they could pan the camera up so you can't see it?
>attacking imaginary boogeymen online
>instead of the devs making the changes
Why must you be so stupid, GG?
>>318109009
I hate this "SJWs don't do anything" meme
They're indoctrinating people by the thousands in higher education across North America and the UK.
Canada just fucking elected one for Prime Minister.
>>318109009
>they aren't actually doing anything.
>>318110126
Oh no! They write shitty click bait articles!
>>318108798
>Japanese companies think Westerns are prudish and can't handle sexuality so they censor shit
>IT'S A FEMINIST CONSPIRACY
>>318109965
You think Capcom employees made the game as a labor of artistic love?
In the case of SJWs attacking indie devs, sure, you've got a point - one person can't stand up to a group of angry people and win - at least not often. If they're pulled from greenlight or whatever, that's terrible. An individual almost certainly is making a game that they want to be making, not just doing it for profit.
This is not the case with a company. A company can stand up to the world and tell it to go fuck itself. A company creates items without emotion in the interest of profit.
>>318110126
if you go on those sites you deserve it tbqh
>>318109965
Games change all the time during development you idiot. People do a lot of shit that ends up getting axed or changed later in development.
Stuff that gets changed from a third party for localization is "justified" because they want to broaden their audience to maximize profits, however they are also alienating the people who are interested in the game enough to know what the original version looked like, which could lead to less sales.
>>318109169
Why do you assume the audience is tumblr SJWs?
make it look slightly less like fap bait, and you might pull in people other than weeaboos.
>>318110254
>People do a lot of shit that ends up getting axed or changed later in development.
And why do you think they did it?
>>318109993
There's a difference between being an SJW who posts feminazi blog posts on tumblr and being a politician/educator/developer/etc. that agrees with their ideology.
I mean, on paper, it sounds like something everyone should be a part of, until you realize how it's being run like a mafia racket and how anyone who disagrees with them gets blacklisted as a sexist/racist/rapist/pedo/etc. until their reputation is destroyed.
Unfortunately, most of the shady shit that SJWs do isn't really focused upon in the general media, so someone can go in thinking that they're a crusader against injustice only to discover that everyone around them is batshit insane and willing to ruin their life if they disagree with anything that they say.
Not to mention, politicians invent stances for/against the current social ideology all the time, especially if it's a lobbyist who pays for their support.
Again, more likely to think of this as ignorance or political corruption than SJWs actually having any pull in society outside of the internet.
>>318109159
>my dad works at Nintendo
>>318109543
Nobody's saying censorship is good. People are saying censorship isn't primarily driven by 15 year old Tumblrites.
>>318110273
Because they're the only people that actually get bothered by these things? Any normal person would just ignore it rather than act like a child and whine over every game with a girl that has even the slightest of cleavage showing.
>>318106562
No, it's just refusing to localize a game out of fear of persecution, not censorship
>>318106938
>>318107340
these are censorship
>>318107432
this really depends on the motive behind the change since the game was still in development and arbitrary changes always happen, but they might have done it for the worst reasons
>>318107557
censorship
>>318110126
Anyone can write a shitty article senpai, it's not like any of the journalists for those sites have any accountability or credibility.
They're clickbait articles, and you'd have to be a fool to believe them to be anything but.
>>318110347
Because it no longer fits their vision of what they want to final product to look like. They changed the character art in the HUD multiple times, they have also updated the faces of characters to make them look more attractive. It is all because that is what they want the final product to look at.
Unless you have proof they they were "pressured" into changes, you are just talking out your ass.
>>318110126
I haven't read their articles because if I wanted low quality shit i'd look up scat porn, but taking a roundabout guess it's accurate to say that a 'gamer' identity is redundant.
In a world where retards play things on facebook that technically qualify as games and where even your grandmother has played tetris and snake, identifying as a 'gamer' is quite pointless.
sure, we all know what you mean when you say 'gamer', but operating purely on the actual meaning of the term [one who plays games] it's stupid.
it doesn't help that shit like 'hardcore gamer' sounds tryhard as fuck.
>>318110193
>feminists and SJWs flood the internet with game "reviews" about diversity and the portrayal of women in games and run smear campaigns every time Lara Croft shows a little cleavage
>because of all this feminist bullshit Japanese companies change the game
>YOU CAN'T BLAME FEMINISTS! THEY'RE THE ONE'S WHO WANTED THESE CHANGES, DEMANDED THE CHANGES, HARASSED DEVELOPERS INTO MAKING THE CHANGES, BUT THEY DINDU NUTHIN!
>>318109696
Is that the Treehouse chick who's championing all the censorship shit?
>>318110392
>Because they're the only people that actually get bothered by these things?
Bothered enough to blog about it.
>Any normal person would just ignore it
And overlook the product entirely.
Lots of small things shape your perception of something you don't know much about. One woman wearing too little clothing might be enough to convince some normalfags that it's neckbeard fap bait instead of a worthwhile game. Nobody fucking cares what people are saying on Tumblr.
>>318110628
Prove it was because of feminists
>>318108798
To whoever made this list... when you're talking about a thing, put the title of that thing ABOVE the paragraph talking about it, not underneath and off to the side. This is formatting 101 dipshit.
who actually plays DoA?
this really seems like they pulled the game because it wouldn't sell amazingly, then playasia decided to false-flag it to increase sales.
>>318110628
EA won "worst company in the world" twice, yet they still tell people to suck their cock and buy their DLC season pass.
Do you honestly think Koei is more hated than EA?
Do you think they legitimately care what a few Americans think of their product?
>>318110442
>>318110625
>it's clickbait
>they're written by retards
You're missing the point.
The point is you can't say "SJWs are doing nothing" when they have a very clear agenda they're pushing and it's directly censoring games.
>>318110958
>and it's directly censoring games.
DAD, THIS ROCK DRIVES AWAY TIGERS
>>318110958
>it's directly censoring games
Publisher cowardice is censoring games, full stop.
>feminists whining about games was just a fad they said
>it'll be over before you know it they said
>games will never be censored in any way they said
Reminder you may aswell move to nippon at this point, like me. Gaming is dead in the west. It's too late.
>>318110796
>>318111030
I already am but not because of vidya games. Moving countries for video games will make you more depressed than you already are when you arrive.
>>318110958
correlation =/= causation.
>>318110625
The articles are mostly about how we need to wipe the slate clean because gamers are dirty misogynists and hateful and blah blah blah
They weren't talking about Grandma playing FarmVille.
And the gamer identity is one of an enthusiast. You don't call yourself a gamer if all you play is Solitaire on your phone.
It just happens that, unlike other media, gaming started as an enthusiast medium so they didn't need a word that spoke to that enthusiasm, because it was inherent.
>>318111024
>>318111025
>>318111101
I DON'T NEED TO TALK TO A SCIENTIST
Y'ALL MOTHERFUCKA'S LYING AND MAKING ME PISSED.
Thank god nobody has censored magnets.
>>318110796
Tecmo Koei has said as much.
>>318111101
SJWs are censoring games.
>>318109838
>A list of things censored
>First item is list is something that didn't get censored
I really hope you aren't the retard who made that image.
>>318111154
None of the writers of those articles were in charge of where games would be released. Not sure what the other guy is talking about but in no way have you offered some counterpoint to my post.
>>318111025
>>318110958
SJW's can't do nothing unless people give them the power.
Koei didn't have to make their game import only.
They didn't need to mention SJWs and their agendas as being the reasons why the game wasn't coming to America.
But they did, inventing this shitstorm outta nowhere, because they're businessmen who realize that they'd get customers from their fans and people who want to spite SJWs.
Yet somehow, the idea that a business is making a move to make money is less plausable than the notion that SJWs have control over what a company decides to release stateside.
>>318111237
Holy shit does fullchan know about this? We need somebody on this.
>>318111245
>>318111154
oh those SJWs at the ESRB.
>>318111237
what the fuck is usgamernet?
oh, it's some 'literally what?' publication. you might as well just have mentioned kotaku, at least that mattered enough to make it into lawl and order.
>>318111271
>the idea that a business is making a move to make money
"Hey, Team Ninja! I have an idea on how we can make looooooots of money on Dead or Alive Xtreme 3!"
"Really? What's your idea?"
"Lets... NOT release it!"
"Brilliant! We'll make millions!"
Your rhetoric is dumb.
>>318106562
No, that's just a slip. It happens, gotta be careful when you're at the pool.
>>318109696
Jesus christ what's wrong with his face?
>>318111526
Are you being purposely facetious or are you genuinely this retarded?
It costs money to market a game, to distribute it and to localize it. If the game is not going to make a profit in certain locales - say, anywhere outside of Japan - then there is no point in releasing it in those locations.
There's a reason there's no urdu translation of GTA 5, and it's not because someone at rockstar decided WHY MAKE BILLIONS WHEN YOU CAN MAKE... THOUSANDS
>>318111703
DOAX have sold better in the west than in Japanese.
>>318111327
Thanks for proving my point with more evidence.
The people instituting the "censorship" are the publishers, which you provided evidence for despite seemingly disagreeing with me about, saying it was some pissed of dikes.
>>318111042
>moviebob
Ugh, can't hear that guy's name without having flashbacks to that Samurai Pizza Cats video he did for The Escapist that was full of myths and inaccuracies.
>>318108798
Seems like the only triggered one is whoever made this.
>>318111042
>>318111801
>>318106938
They turned her into a midget?
>>318111703
1. DOAX has always sold better outside of Asia, ergo, the West
2. DOAX3 has a version which has English Subtitles for the Former British Colonies of Hong Kong and Singapore, which are mainly English speaking
Thus, localizing it is not needed. Distribution is not going to cost so much that it isn't profitable, especially in an area where it's sold the most.
tl;dr, shitty and unsubstantiated 'argument' which is completely against objective fact.
>>318111703
>comparing the United States of America, one of the largest entertainment markets in the world, to a 3rd world country that doesn't use toilet paper.
Uh... yeah. Clearly you're not the retard in this conversation. Because localizing a game for the US is clearly just like localizing a game for Pakistan.
>>318110796
Koei Tecmo literally said "SJW nonsense" was the reason they feared backlash for releasing the game in the west.
I'm against censoring and all that shit but I wanna point out something funny
>Lightning, one of the most asexual character of all video game history
>Has lewd costumes in Lightning Returns
>That's pretty gross and out of character
>Fantasyfags -yes, gamers- bitching to remove the costumes because it's not Lightning
No censoring.
why those woman keep bitching on video game?
they dun have any boyfriend to fuck?
I should start writing blogs about how [obvious vaporware products] are offensive to me as a straight white klansman.
Then when they inevitably aren't released I can take credit, even though my fictional kkk identity would have no credibility whatsoever.
>>318111703
>If the game is not going to make a profit in certain locales - say, anywhere outside of Japan - then there is no point in releasing it in those locations.
How many times do we have to tell you that DoA and Xtreme historically sell more in the West?
>>318111756
"DOAX have sold more in multiple countries, compared to a single country!
>>318106562
>people are saying there hasn't been a crafted narrative about how sexualized women are evil and your male sexual desires are disgusting/problematic
>people conviently just forgot jew kikestarter woman
>>318111526
PA's twitter count fucking doubled in 24 hours since they made their original post.
Do you honestly think that a company would
a) Not localize a game that sold well outside their country
b) Directly cite SJWs as the reason why it wasn't coming stateside
If it wasn't to generate controversy to get people outside the demographic to become aware of it?
I mean, Hatred and Dragon's Crown worked off the same principle and companies tend to repeat strategies that worked out in the past.
Just saying.
>>318112074
>Because localizing a game for the US is clearly just like localizing a game for Pakistan.
Depending on the game, it may be worse. Laden VS USA was not a good seller outside of Pakistan.>he doesn't understand hyperbole and context
>>318112101
It's funny because in another time /v/ would have universally decried the DOAX games for being pathetic fap material non-game shit, but now they're lapping it up just to spite SJWs
>>318111764
pressuring someone into self censorship is the same thing as censoring something yourself you dipshit
>>318111237
>Like the Talkradar Podcast way back when
>It's non-political, and they have a lot of fun discussion about games
>Follow the crew over when they start up Laser Time
>Without restrictions from bosses above them, it gradually turns into Liberal Time, where they force political bullshit into every episode, no matter what the subject matter is
>Squeaky voiced faggot Henry Gilbert and Bob Mackey (your pic related) somehow weasel their way into becoming regulars on the show
>In one episode, they flat out discuss who they think should be blacklisted for being "problematic", while at the same time excuse Eddie Murphy for being pretty blatant about his hatred of "faggots" in Raw, and the Dragon Quest composer for more or less being a Holocaust denier.
Goddammit, I used to love that show. The moral I've learned is to move out of San Francisco before it changes you.
>>318112135
It's been said about 200 times, unfortunately all of those times were after that post. Simply saying something a lot doesn't send the message back in time.
>>318112158
Way to miss the point, retard.
Exporting the game to the west yields a larger profit than NOT exporting the game to the west. So this idea that "it's a marketing choice to not export it so they'll make more money" is just idiotic lies.
>>318112270
>pressuring someone into self censorship is the same thing as censoring something yourself
Do you extend this logic to bullies causing people to commit suicide?
You know who do?Social justice warriors.
>>318108158
No. Cowardice might be a reason but self censorship is still censorship.
>>318110126
>more than a year later
>gamer identity still not dead
how retarded do they feel right now
>>318112325
>yields a larger profit
larger sales.
it's not 'so they'll make more money', it's so they'll make more profit. if the margins are lower in the west for any number of reasons, they won't bother.
>>318112207
>Dragon's Crown worked off the same principle
Dragon's Crown definitely wasn't on purpose
And this is an awfully convoluted marketing strategy that I don't think KT would have actually done
>>318111919
>That book
It's just blogging in book form. I feel bad for any SMB3 fans who bought it expecting actual analysis and discussion of the game.
>>318112207
>dragon's crown
Nice outing yourself, you sjw faggot. Dragon's crown is made by one of my favourite companies and they are well known by fans to make high quality games. The fact that you think large tits wasn't an homage to traditional japanese culture, and instead think it's a ruse to sell more copies to "perverts" just goes to show how full of shit you actually are.
>>318112336
ok this is obviously bait...
>>318112259
From what I have seen, /v/ is all about niche fap material games. The only people against it are shitposters invading threads as usual.
From the looks of it you got influenced by that and believed it to be fact. Are you often convinced by poorly constructed, one sided arguments?
>>318112474
You're right, but I replied anyway because some retards do believe that nonsense.
No, being a coward who censors a work means you're a coward. The raging cunts did not censor the game because they do not have the authority over such things in any way. They can hold their breath until they're blue and it won't matter.
The publisher has the word and if they are cowards, they will change these things.
>>318112207
>I mean, Hatred and Dragon's Crown worked off the same principle
Dragon's Crown was just a modern incrimination of the classic Japanese beat'em up. It was by no means trying to do anything controversial, let alone milk it for publicity.
>>318106562
technically it isn't censorship it's chilling effect and ironically people in the name of sjw (equality etc) bullying a niche audience
>>318112336
>Do you extend this logic to bullies causing people to commit suicide?
I mean
It happens
If you make someone's life miserable and then they blow their brains out, then maybe you made it happen. At least in part.
Unfortunately that scenario is hard to reverse engineer. Would they have killed themselves if they weren't bullied? Not like we can ask.
>>318112207
Prove it.
Oh wait, you can't. You're just making shit up so it sounds like A MISOGYNIST CONSPIRACY!
>Hatred and Dragon's Crown worked off the same principle
Don't forget, SJWs literally got Hatred pulled from Steam. It wasn't a marketing ploy by the guys who made Hatred, it was literally censored by a SJWs smear campaign. So if you're saying that it was all planned by the game creators you're just digging yourself deeper into a hole of lies.
>>318112418
You'd honestly be surprised how deep some companies would go to generate profit.
>>318112453
Do you always put words in people's mouths when you encounter sound logic anon?
Because I never implied that Dragon's Crown was only popular because of titties, only that it sold more copies due to the controversy surrounding it.
>>318112597
Well my point here is that telling somebody to kill themselves isn't murder and telling somebody to censor a game doesn't mean that person censored a game.
Don't overthink it or anything.
>>318112591
Meant to say incarnation, not incrimination. Damn autocorrect.
>>318109159
>it's not bullying when sjw do it
>>318112476
>Are you often convinced by poorly constructed, one sided arguments?
Are you?
Because this is basically the same shit that /v/ has been saying since they started bitching about FFV's release.
![1420373240101[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FBGKYWd.jpg "1420373240101[2].jpg")
>>318109169
>yfw rhetoric is: 'then it shouldn't exist!'
>>318112591
It still profited off of the controversy generated between SJWs and the like.
I'm not trying to say that DC isn't a damn good game, I'm just saying that they moved more copies because people became aware of it through association with the clickbait articles surrounding it.
>>318111237
>Something Awful
There's your problem.
>>318112665
But purposefully creating an environment conducive to an action doesn't absolve you of guilt when the action takes place.
It'd be like if Jigsaw said "it's not my fault he sawed off his leg!"
Did Jigsaw saw the leg off himself? No, but without his influence the sawing would have never happened.
>>318109543
switch "i'll buy it anyway!" with
"if you want to fap, go watch some porn."
>>318112834
Fair enough, you're right in that regard.
>>318111025
/thread
Simply put, the SJWs want the publishers to censor themselves, which according to the SJWs isn't censorship... But it IS.
The motivation for game publishers to not publish certain games is steering clear of a shitstorm, which is exactly what SJWs are ready to give them the moment they put out a game they don't approve of.
>>318112158
EU and NA comprise 80% of DOAX's sales.
The only reason you would cut off that big of a chunk is out of fear, not because you think it will get you a bigger market, because it won't. There is currently a rather large cloud of fear floating around devland and for the most part it is spurred on by assholes being quick to throw awful labels on people simply because they didn't cater to their every need or want. People need to grow the fuck up and learn that the market is there for all different people and to just grow the fuck up and let it work the way it is supposed to instead of bullying other people around in it.
KT regularly sells games in those territories that sell quite a bit fewer copies than DOAX does does, so that isn't really a reason they wouldn't do it. This is the reason things like the PSN are such a wonderful addition to our gaming systems. It gives companies a far less expensive way to get titles to us that might not have been profitable to do so otherwise.
>>318112885
No point, either way that argument is a free pass.
>>318107557
How is it bad to do a caricature of one group of people, but okay to do so to another?
No closeup on Mika's ass slap might have been to keep a T ESRB rating.
>>318113036
Because one caricature is white and the other is not.
>>318112665
This comparison would only make sense if the socially expected response to being bullied is to kill yourself.
Seeing as this isn't Sparta in 300BC, I doubt said person not killing themselves would generate a large social lash-back.
>>318113080
ESRB doesn't work that way. You submit your product and they give a rating, the end. They don't advise on what to censor to change ratings.
>>318112982
To be fair, in most cases they're just being cowards.
Shitstorms die down and normal people don't even care about Twitter shitstorms.
>>318112634
>Prove it.
Dragon's Crown was Vanillaware's best selling game by a large margin in comparison to their other games.
Fuck, even Hatred ended up selling more units than it honestly deserved.
>It wasn't a marketing ploy by the guys who made Hatred, it was literally censored by a SJWs smear campaign.
Then that controversy led to more controversy which eventually led to the game being put back on steam's market anyways.
If that didn't happen, it'd just be another edgy game banking off of being offensive as possible.
>>318113036
Because white people aren't a socially protected special interest group.
>>318107340
this is censored? what was the original?
>>318113146
That's not true at all.
AFAIK, they'll review the submitted product and tell you which aspects affected the rating in which manner. They work with developers to get the game on the morally "correct" track.
>>318112876
The man could've sawed through the chain, he could've sawed through the screw holding the manacle together, etc.
The point is that he could've sawed through anything else aside from his own leg.
>>318113146
why do you assume?
you are full of shit
>>318113146
>You submit your product and they give a rating, the end
You can censor it to avoid having to submit it twice.
>>318113146
Yes they do.
>>318106562
Neither was this, but it's still shit we could do without.
>>318113291
that is the original
it was replaced with a turban
>>318113321
thanks mods
>>318113379
>sawed through the chain
how the fuck can you saw a fucking piece of metal?
>>318113146
>You submit your product and they give a rating, the end.
Uh, no?
They get told why it was rated that way and the developer is free to resubmit it with changes in order to reach the target rating
>>318112982
this so much
sjw always go 'oh i'm not for censorship but there really should be some rule or way to get rid of the things i find offensive' and are lapping up the idea that devs 'creatively decided to not do something' [fear of reprisal and backlash aka censorship]
>>318113578
>how the fuck can you saw a fucking piece of metal?
>japs being cowards
what else is new?
they can't even fuck to save their race
>>318113146
ESRB is a joke they get a random set of people to watch some of the footage and if someone gets offended it gets rated M, usually tits or even bikinis (no nudity)
>>318113470
As shit as this was, I still find it preferable to making every other cape comic as grungy, bloody, and sexual as possible just to appeal to the college kids who grew up with it.
I mean, it's like being back in the dark age of comics where artists and writers were more concerned with being edgy than making a decent plot.
>>318113401
oh man, those $100 is sooo expensive
>>318113253
Except Dragon's Crown "publicity" wasn't requested by Vanillaware. It was caused by an idiot being a retard.
And Hatred was pulled due to smear campaigns, NOT at the request of the developer requesting the smear campaign.
Did controversy leak to greater sales? Likely.
But if you're gonna try to leak a conspiracy between games that likely wouldn't sell as well as they did WITHOUT controversy, then you're gonna have to provide a direct link between the individual/groups involved and the game studios.
Not a Causal Link between "Controversy = Greater Sales". Because THAT has existed since the first time a woman bartered sexual use of her body for money/goods.
>>318108798
This picture is everything wrong with the whole CENSORSHIP witch hunt.
It's never ACTUALLY about censorship (The alteration or omission of content to fit an agenda or ideal)
It's about a bunch of 15 year olds getting bent out of shape because their game won't have as many boobs as they thought.
>>318113226
to them almost all major western publications/websites hate sexualization just look at all the article collages, and all the shitty sjw style interviews on doa5
>>318110628
>or something
kek, sjw be mad
>>318113481
>thanks mods
wasn't mods, deleted it myself because it was for a single poster and otherwise was a shitpost.
i knew it would remain visible after deletion because that one poster is obviously in the thread already. :^)
>>318113669
stop it vegeta, im just human
>>318113253
That doesn't mean the controversy was fabricated by the game's creators.
In the cases of Dragon's Crown and Hatred it literally wasn't fabricated controversy, and there's no reason to think that the current "DOAX3 controversy" was all an elaborate ruse, either.
I doubt many people were "on the fence" about whether or not they were going to get DOAX3 before this controversy began, and if you weren't going to get it, I don't see how this would change your mind.
>You know, DOAX3 doesn't really appeal to me. I don't like volleyball, I don't like anime, and I don't like softcore eroge... but because of the twitter shitform I'm going to get it now.
Seems far-fetched to me.
>>318113379
>old, rusty saw
>making it through metal
Nah
And it doesn't matter WHAT he sawed, but that he was in a position where he had to saw something.
Jogsaw put him in that position.
Maybe the better example for you is the ont where the key is stuck behind yheir eye and they have to cut it out before the trap springs.
Who's fault is it in either result?
>>318113739
time is money and it costs more than $100 to wait.
>>318113821
what do you mean?
>>318113321
Even still, you've cut yourself to 20% of previous market to try to fill your profit margin from. That is a lot of cost to recoup from a much smaller market.
They have already localized the game, canning it for even digital distro makes no sense. There shouldn't be enough risk to justify that kind of cut. Especially since you have already put in the money to localize it. If you are going to can a region because of not wanting to distribute there, you would have done it long before this point. You don't have to waste the money on marketing if you don't want to, but you should at least try to recoup your development costs that you sunk into localizing it.
>>318113873
im not going to read your post but DC had no hidden agenda to sell but Hatred did
>>318113807
Like an alteration of content to fit an ideal
>>318113807
>censoring boobs isn't censorship
How does your mind work?
>>318113903
I know some of the projects Microsoft has had in the past were close to $1M a day in development costs.
>>318114008
I'm am going to read your post but I'm not going to treat you like an adult.
Whether or not Hatred had an agenda to sell isn't the point here, the point is Hatred didn't pull itself from the Steam store to generate controversy. Hatred was the victim of a smear campaign that hilariously backfired.
>>318112876
>It'd be like if Jigsaw said "it's not my fault he sawed off his leg!"
Threatening somebody's life/property/etc. is not what the raging cunts ever seemed to be doing.
So your analogy is garbage. Mine is fine though.
>>318114101
Nobody's upset because it's censorship.
They're upset because they're censoring boobs, full stop.
>>318113669
Vegeta, quit dodging your doctor and take your medication
>>318114008
hatred had a hidden agenda?
>>318108798
>>318113807
Yeah, I like boobs in my video games.
And if you try to get rid of them, I will call out your fascism.
Problem?
>>318113807
Aside from it being structured like a retard did it, it includes shit that isn't even censorship. It just tracks things some retards complained about in addition to things companies changed (because publishers are cowards).
>>318114287
but it is censoring though
>>318114263
nah
>>318113791
The point I'm making is that the controversy helped to generate more sales/exposure for the game than if there wasn't any.
Think about it,
They wanted to pull support for the game in order to avoid controversy but then they let PA make a bunch of twitter posts that exist for no other reason than to piss off SJWs?
Either this is a bid to generate controversy to increase sales/exposure of Koei is even dumber than I gave them credit for.
>>318113807
I found the SJW. Right here.
>>318114287
Actually, some people do get bent out of shape at censorship, full stop.
>>318114287
But I'm against censoring other things as well.
Remember how the Xbox version of Conker's censored the cursing? That was bullshit.
>>318113879
Obviously the guy for being so much of a piece of shit that Jigsaw targeted him in the first place.
>>318114287
So censoring blood and gore is wrong
Censoring tits is fine though
>>318110352
SJW's aren't even really the left wing academics, SJW's are more like, a gross misunderstanding of left-wing ideology mixed with the fact the internet lets you be a shithead. No respected academic however fucking neomarxist would push the kind of shit SJW's say, or if they do, they usually get fired, like this one guy, can't remember the name, who published a paper saying 9/11 was justified vengeance against american "little eichmanns".
>>318114446
But only when it concerns fap material, full stop.
>>318108798
why we don't censor her shits?
Tht's the solutions they want censor? We are gonna give it!!! Fire with fire.
>>318113080
Actually it might have been the CERO ratings board. SF games in Japan always carry a B rating (12+), although MVC3 manage to get a C rating (15+), a game like Senran Kagura Burst manage to get a D rating (17+) and that was rated T by the ESRB.
Why do they care so much about what games we play at home. Jesus fucking Christ. Its not like it effects them with we play a giant titty murder rape simulator.
>>318114598
>NO YOU DON'T, ANON!
[citation needed]
>>318111801
>>318111919
Hey movieblob,, what's it like knowing i bought the Spirit Science book and pirated yours?
>>318114287
maybe if SJWs tried to censor something other than tits it would go up on the infographic.
>>318114598
What makes you think I care if it is only fap material that gets censored. Nothing should be censored. Freedom of speech and all that fun stuff. People who say otherwise need to stop licking their colon.
>>318112553
i agree they are cowards, totally agree with that
but we also cant ignore the cancer the is social justice because of that reason.
a lot of people are cowards and will do things when they are pressured into doing them
we need to get rid of the cancer aswell as get people to be less cowardly
>>318114815
>didn't shop in Knuckles in a bikini
One job.
>feminist logic
>get games censored if it depicts women in bikinis
>are perfectly fine with women being sluts irl
>>318114815
Is that some slightly tanned Maributt I see? Oh god
>>318114598
Are you using that turn of phrase because I did once in an attempt to sound like me?
HERE I AM READING KOTAKULOOKING AT THEIR BAD REVIEWMAYBE THERE'S A REASONWE CAN'T RELEASE THIS GAME TO YOUTHERE THEY GO LIKE A PATROL CARLABELING WHO THE PERVERTS ARELISTEN ANON, DO YOU BELIEVE WHEN I SAY"We do not bring DOAX3 to the west and won't have any plan change in the future. Thank you for asking,"
>>318108192
GG was succesful at shitposting on /v/, yes.
As a corollary, gg was succesful at getting banned from /v/
>>318108798
>>318114815
Still don't know literal samefaces got in but Tina or Mila didn't.
>>318113470
Ahh...yes, it was.
The CCA was created specifically to censor depictions of violence and sexuality in comics. Before the CCA, Batman wouldn't give a fuck if a criminal died. After? He refused to even consider killing even the Joker.
Stories went from interesting anti-heroes and villains who would triumph to moralistic lessons that "Bad is Bad and only Stupids are Bad".
>http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,h_290,w_640/t_mp_quality/v8rxik68wuvcju96szki/the-men-who-banned-comics-the-strange-story-of-the-cca-oh-old-school-magneto-so-bad-at-324424.jpg
I mean yeah, the CCA basically FORCED the creation of most of the characters we know now and put an end to the glut of Horror comics that were out there, but it put a HUGE squash on any and all comics that featured "strong leading women". Even Wonder Woman had to have a male lead/prince until later years.
We can all be glad that the CCA no longer exists.
>>318114857
Freedom of speech bars governments from restricting a citizens right to speech it does not mean private companies can't alter shit
>>318115215
>Arguing that batman killing villians would be more interesting
Confirmed for not a comic reader
by what's considered censorship here, shouldn't gamergate activism against "SJW" critics, which is essentially trying to silence/suppress their points of view, also be considered an attempt at censorship?
>>318115326
The gg philosophy is so inconsistent that most of them will not even engage with you if you point out things like this.
>>318115326
no, not really
>>318114287
Stop moving goal posts you faggot. This is censorship, pure and simple.
I don't want games censored because I think the people who would enjoy them should be able to do just that.
>>318115274
freedom of speech protects art, too.
>>318114264
They threaten reputations and jobs.
>>318114287
What other censorship is there in games these days?
>>318115326
no one wants to stop them from speaking; we just need people to have perspective that "misogynist" is a meaningless term these days.
Companies shouldn't be willing to throw away everything to avoid that term in reviews.
Artists should be able to tell their stories without design by committee taking kotaku's hatred of tits into account.
>>318108798
>Yohjo Simulator
>Overwhelmingly Positive response
Yohjo Sim was a broken fucking mess made up of generic demo assets. It literally sold itself on the fact that it had a loli and pretty much nothing else.
>>318115215
well, at least we got a few underground comics out of it. Crumb is amazing, when he wasnt dropping acid constantly.
