>suddenly /v/ hates the man that saved gaming
What happened?
>>318064747
Steam Market happened
Console peasants are jealous. Nothing more
Gabe didn't save anything.
Steam selling mods made v hate him despite the fact that Steam wasn't forcing anyone to make paid mods.
Gabe is basically someone who allows companies to do whatever they want
>>318065024
Didn't Gabe reverse that decision because the consumers didn't like it?
Steam has always been an unnecessary DRM platform, people are just waking up.
>>318065119
Yep
But "it's too late now"
"steam, not even once xD"
>>318064747
Remember that "steam selling mods" fiasco we had a few months earlier?
That's why.
so how this fat guy should have saved gaming?
>>318064747
You're face to face. With the man who sold the mods
>>318065119
Yes. And now Bethesda is going to force some shitty 3rd party mod system. Thanks a lot faggots. I'd rather have it all integrated into steam
>>318065267
Jesus Christ Marie they're conversions
>>318065637
>I'd rather have poop in my eyes than poop in my mouth
Wow what a great alternative
>saved gaming
this fat fuck
>f2p garbage
>hats
>zero quality control
>steam muchines D.O.A
>>318064856
>this is what delusional Valvekeks believe
>>318064747
>saved gaming
>literally made a single "okay" FPS game
>his whole life revolves around being a fat jew that wants more and more money
DON'T WORRY GOY, I'M YOUR FRIEND! NOW TELL ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER SO WE CAN KEEP IN TOUCH
>>318065818
Steam workshop is fucking awesome. Are you retarted
micro transactions
>>318065963
>not wanting Gabe to send you lewds
>>318065970
Please tell me this is b8
>>318066036
buzzword of the year
>>318066237
What isn't a buzzword to /v/ nowadays?
>you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
>>318065356
I like your post, Anon.
>>318064747
Paid mods.
Once Valve saw that they couldn't pull the wool over people's eyes about it, though, he reversed the decision. Not out of any sense of regret, I'm sure, but because it's bad PR.
>>318066598
It's all yours, friend :)
>>318066864
>Not out of any sense of regret, I'm sure, but because it's bad PR.
So regret?
When your consumer base says something is bad you don't do it. Business decision making 101 right there.
>>318064747
>suddenly
/v/ has hated him for at least 4 years.
>>318067243
>2015
>being this delusional
He was the chosen one! He was supposed to destroy the anti-consumerists not join them!
>>318064747
>Le epic fat meme
Fuck off
>>318067309
>anti-consumerists
let me guess, exclusives are anti-consumer right?
>>318067897
Anything resembling Johnny Longtorso is anti consumer.
gabe turned into a sjw and made steam into a "safe place"............. basically hesold out lal of us in order to appease the feminists.......... why wouldyou support a man who does this?
>>318064747
When reddit started to like him, /v/ started to hate him.
>>318068083
Jesus Christ I hope that in all the universes where I was born as retarded as you my parents had the love and decency in their hearts to drown me and dump me in a ditch.
>>318067897
um yea actually exclusives are anticonsumer
>>318068264
you triggered my pc bro..... heh
>>318064747
>>318066993
>So regret?
Not really?
I mean he didn't regret putting paid mods on the table. He didn't reverse the decision because he thought paid mods were bad. He reversed the decision because people actually kicked up a storm about it.
Regret implies that he's sorry about the whole thing, but I doubt that he is.
He might regret the backlash (since he was most likely hoping that more people would just go along with it without much thought), but he doesn't regret the initial decision and will most likely just try a more subtle approach in the future.
Personaly the steam trade hold's/Escrow thing is pretty shitty, No more random steam game giveaways for me.
Cause I will get called a jew, I give games, not get them.
>>318064747
He changed.
For the worse.
>>318068361
how so?
>>318068630
>He reversed the decision because people actually kicked up a storm about it.
So he regretted making the decision because people got upset and then rescinded it.
>>318068467
I don't recal the the last 2.
or the not owning the property for that fact.
>>318065963
Not being old enough to remember the Crysis engine.
>>318064970
Doesn't remember goldeneye
>>318065328
Doesn't remember LAP
>>318065849
Wasn't old enough to remember the shittyness of obtaining games through retail.
when's half life 3
>>318068770
Not him, they're not really anti-consumer they're just the only reason consoles even sell.
Nobody would have bought the Xbox 360 if it wasn't for Halo.
>>318064747
Reddit started liking him and /v/ is legally required to dislike anything Reddit likes, even when it's something objectively great.
>>318068828
I remember Goldeneye, it has nothing to do with Gabe.
>>318064747
>suddenly
SUDDENLY?
>>318068828
Oh thank God the Valve Defense Force finally arrived!
What took you so long?
>>318064747
>no flash sales
>no daily deals
>one discount for the sale duration
>>318068891
/v/ is legally required to dislike anything that becomes popular, even stuff /v/ used to like
Just imagine when SS13 actually becomes normalfag material
>LOLOL >LE HONK FUCKING MEME GAME FUCK OFF NIGGERS
>>318068807
It's in the steam TOS that they have no obligation to make your games accessible to you, and refusing to accept the TOS even when it changes means they will deny you access to your library.
>>318066190
Option a) Making an account on one of the mod nexus sights to be able to install mods. You have to navigate the site to find the most up to date version of your mod because all versions are consistently hosted on the site. After finding and downloading the file you have to either split up onto two routes, downloading a patcher-like application to install your mods, or drag and drop them into the correct directory yourself. Make sure you have additional programs installed like winrar to do this.
OR
Option b) Search for it on steam and click subscribe
>>318069002
>have the lowest deal right away
>don't have to be sad about not getting the lowest deal
>refunds mean a lot of people refunding to get the lowest deal which would be a PITA for Steam
It's an objectively good thing
>>318064747
troll thread. the only thing he saved is all the food his employees throw away.
>>318064747
The man who turned PC gaming into a meme.
>>318069290
He looks like a handsome young man, he would just need to do something about that droopy eye.
Where did it all go so wrong.
>>318069290
No that was Yatzis witcher review.
>>318068796
>So he regretted making the decision
No.
>because people got upset
>because
Yes, but he doesn't care about the fact that it upset people. He cares that it affected his PR.
What exactly are you trying to get at, Anon?
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.
>>318069452
Maybe when he started to sleep on baconweave pillows.
>>318069104
Developers aren't going to want to dramatically discount their games for the entire duration of the sale, unlike before when they would have a steep but not too steep discount, then have a flash sale or daily deal that discounted it 75-90 percent. That's how they got a ton of impulse buyers, which would increase the player base of their game, which otherwise might not have sold that well.
That, and it was fun impulse buying cheap games I otherwise would never have given a second thought to.
>>318069487
>Yes, but he doesn't care about the fact that it upset people. He cares that it affected his PR.
So he obviously regretted his decision because it affected PR.
He's still feeling regret.
We're not really arguing about anything but semantics right now.
Gabe saving PC gaming is not unlike the statement that Nintendo saved video games. They didn't save anything.
>>318069596
That's funny, because I've seen bigger overall sales so far
Trust me, they wouldn't do this if it would earn them more sales. They're a business and their goal is to make money.
>>318069629
>We're not really arguing about anything but semantics right now.
Why? You know exactly what I mean then.
Dreamhack winter 2015 - CS
http://www.twitch.
tv/dreamhackcs
Last match of the day coming up.
NiP vs Luminosity
>>318069841
*wouldn't earn them more sales
>turned steam into video games themed facebook ruining the PC community
>devaluated games to shit with agressive sales that harm the developers
>popularized F2P model and jewish microtransactions
The fat fuck killed whatever was good in PC gaming turning it into a meme platform.
>>318070014
Cool opinions bro, but I don't think they line up with reality, just your stink-eye philosophy. Guess we need some more citations.
>>318069902
I know exactly what you mean, but you're wrong. He had regret, regardless of whether it was for bad PR or for realizing paid mods wouldn't work well.
Gamers are wrong a lot of the time too. Tons of people got upset when Gabe said "money guides productivity" or something, when that is a basic component of capitalism. People are fucking dumb.
>>318070014
What's wrong in this picture?
>>318069101
>Option A) Sign up for Nexus, search for the mod you want, download it, install it freely or using Nexus Mod Manager with built-in version control for when you just want your game to fucking work after configuring it
>Option B) Sign up for Steam, search for the mod you want, subscribe to it, get fucked because Steam has no mod manager, get fucked worse when the mod updates itself randomly and breaks something, no way to make backups of said mod
Yeah, real fucking great, kiddo.
>>318070135
>I know exactly what you mean,
That's a relief.
>but you're wrong.
Then, I guess you don't know exactly what I mean.
>>318070531
Do you realize that I can't know that you're wrong unless I know what you mean?
>>318070128
Citations about what? Do you want me to find a Gabe Newell quote saying "I memed it, I ruined PC gaming"?
Turning steam into facebook had a very negative impact on the community.
Throwing agressive sales at the userbase turned them into entitled fucks. Developers don't give a shit about PC because nobody buys games unless they are under $5.
Dota 2, and Team Fortress 2 are the most played games on steam.
Should I even mention the "early acess" debacle?
>>318070354
Do you have eyes?
It's clearly rebbit, anon.
>>318070746
>Turning steam into facebook had a very negative impact on the community.
>improving ease of community interaction had a negative impact on community
'no'
>Throwing agressive sales at the userbase turned them into entitled fucks.
Hah
Developers don't give a shit about PC because nobody buys games unless they are under $5.
Seems Devs should lower their prices then, if the market won't respond to a higher price.
How is this a negative again?
>Dota 2, and Team Fortress 2 are the most played games on steam.
Oh no, people like playing vidya! How awful!
>Should I even mention the "early acess" debacle?
Early access has been a thing since forever. They were just called "full conversion" mods back then.
>>318070968
Reddit is just an inferior version of Digg. There's nothing special about it.
The pamphlet targets normalfags, and normalfags probably browse reddit.
I don't see the problem besides the fact that reddit humor is not very funny.
>>318070625
>Do you realize that I can't know that you're wrong unless I know what you mean?
The key word here is "know." You may know what I mean, but you -believe- (probably willfully) I'm wrong just so you can keep arguing.
Also
>That's a relief.
That was sarcasm. I was going to just ask why you were lying that you know what I mean, but whatever.
>>318071090
>They were just called "full conversion" mods back then.
That other anon was spouting shit and you righted most of it, but this?
I thought better of you, anon.
>>318071259
>but you -believe- (probably willfully) I'm wrong just so you can keep arguing.
Not only do i believe that you're wrong, but I know that you're wrong. You just don't think so.
But you are oh so wrong.
>>318069912
Holy fuck, that pistol round.
>>318071339
It's the closest thing I could call them that he would easily find with a google search.
Regardless, many "games" today used to be mods for another game. A popular example is Counterstrike.
>>318067304
Current Year
>>318071253
>rebbit
>pamphlet for normalfags
These are problems, anon. They must be reconciled.
>>318071512
Hello newfag
>>318068467
The first part is true, though.
Like 50% of the time people justify piracy to themselves by blaming the dev.
>>318069006
>SS13
But it's dying and never has more than 200 players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L-CYkXmJzw
>>318070746
1. Friendlist for added availability to play with people you meet through game, or to help organize events through groups. Social connections don't take away anything from the game, and if you think it does the ignore/mute button should just be clicked more often on your end.
2. Steam tackled the piracy issue that was a main excuse for developers to ignore it for an awfully long time, as well as making an easy of access interface for video games that other companies had already been working on for things such as movies (Netflix, Hulu, etc.). This put PC gaming back on the map for a bit for people trying to sell games, aka the creators. In case you haven't realized, the ease it is to sell and play games through steam has broadened the library games offered. Many Japanese games are getting ports (Most I will admit being half-assed) that I never would have imagined. Steam is making visual novels normalcore, I would say it's not harming developers but letting more developers compete for sales, which applied with basic economics says an increase of quality over time.
3. Asian mmo companies have been doing the free to play for years at this point. That was just as simple as American money see, American money do. These models are usually applied to the cheapest made games for maximum profits. This is where video games were going since it is ran by business people and share holders.
Checkmate, Atheists.
>>318071605
Meme
Buzzword
/pol/
>>318071796
I've always wanted to try it.
But the mods and playerbase seem like autistic tryhards.
>>318071796
Just because it doesn't have 20k players in a team deathmatch lobby doesn't mean it's dying
>>318071362
>but I know that you're wrong.
Sure you do, Semantics-Lad. Sure you do.That was also sarcasm, by the way.
>>318070746
This is just /v/-memes the post, now that I took the time to read it. All your opinions seem to be the loudest ones on here so I'll just assume you like to parade whatever's the hot topic.
>>318065024
>>318064856
>>318064747
>>318065267
>>318065637
>>318065970
>supporting cancerous drm
NOT EVEN ONCE
Yes. Video games are surely saved.
>>318071921
What the fuck are you trying to prove, newfag
>>318071960
They are, and you can too.
>>318072087
>I'm going to keep saying newfag
Not even him and you seem to be much more upset and retarded, 2bh.
I never held steam in high regard due to the monopoly it has over PC gaming, but this >>318065267 took the cake.
>>318064747
Neo-/v/ happened.
>/v/ now loves shoving politics into gaeming
>/v/ now praises and sucks the spunk out of youtubers
>/v/ now is about ethics is videogaem journalism (because they never been an opnion for sale, no sir they did not)
>/v/ now watches LP
This is the end
my only friend
the end.
>>318072251
>monopoly
>what is GOG
>what is Origin
>what is torrenting
>>318072441
It doesn't count if it's not the biggest most popular thing, anon.
Which we of course automatically hate because it's the biggest, most popular thing.god, I'm just so tired of this fucking board. I'm starting to realize that I actually still love video games, it's this fucking place that I hate.
>>318072569
>It doesn't count if it's not the biggest most popular thing, anon.
That's still not a monopoly, anon. It only holds 70% of the videogames market as estimated by Steam's competitors.
It merely holds a majority of the market.
>god, I'm just so tired of this fucking board. I'm starting to realize that I actually still love video games, it's this fucking place that I hate.
Me too. But I wouldn't discuss vidya anywhere else.
>>318072308
>muh neo-/v/ boogieman
hilarious
>>318064747
Were you not here for the paid mod fiasco?
