why is it so big?
>>318030664
There's a dick joke here somewhere.
>>318030664
>those textures
>>318030664
Because high quality textures take up a lot of space
Also music
The assets in general are incredibly demanding memory-wise
It's actually scary because we have gta v as the bigget game now but when stuff like ffxv gets released we might be looking at a 2 disc releases on consoles
I don't remember gtav having prerendered cinematics but they take up a lot of space as well
>>318030664
God damn anon, those textures...
>>318031468
Wrong.
>>318030664
Rockstar is retarded and didn't compress any of the audio.
>>318031680
Why would they? Compressing means losing quality
>>318031924
How do you not know that lossless compression exists?
>>318030664
It's literally all 300 songs worth of uncompressed audio in FLAC-size format.
>>318030664
>hold [ V ] to open
really ?
>>318032016
Don't forget dialogue
>>318031924
a decade ago maybe. Times change. Tech advances.
>>318032009
I do
And like >>318032016 said flac format is lossless
>>318032134
Exactly why we were limited to smaller dvds back then with lower quality audio and now we're not
I'm not defending them, I have shitty internet but there are people with superior internet and better audio systems that would prefer this
I still believe the solution is in releasing textures, audio packs and prerendered cinematics as free dlc with 2 or more tiers
>best quality
>normal quality
>low file size
>>318032105
>muh gamepad
>>318032518
You're missing the point. FLAC isn't a very good lossless compression format. They could have easily made the size much smaller without sacrificing any audio quality.
>>318032105
yyyep. or you could hold the scroll wheel if you'd prefer. to be fair you can rebind everything but it doesn't matter much because so many actions are baked onto the same key
>>318032105
>hold /v/ to open
what do they mean by this?
>>318032518
Isn't that how old PC games were? I remember installing games in the 90's and choosing what to install, like audio, textures, etc. Why can't we go back to that.
>>318032767
back then there were memory restrictions on what a computer could process.
daggerfall could easily occupy all of a computers memory with sound alone and still not be able to process that.
so you could install a small version thats way easier on your cpu
>>318032907
Yeah, so why not bring that back?
>>318030841
upvoted
>>318032105
Hold me [ v ]
>>318032971
today things work differently.
>>318032651
I'm not gonna pretend I know too much about this since I'm not an audiophile and generally listen to mp3 music but what would be a good format? Isn't flac only 10x bigger than mp3 320kbs
I do know that compression usually kills quality
Just think about ps2 games like ff12 or even xbox 360 games like mgr which had lower quality cutscenes
>>318032767
It's different
Back then the issue was the computer memory
Now the issue is the download size
That's why I think we should have multiple tiers of downloads
>you have a shitty pc with only 1gb of vram? Then you can just download the low quality assests that will take less time to download
>you have a beast of a pc and want to run on ultra? It's an 80gb download, go ahead
>>318033308
Yeah that's what I mean, like just have the lower res stuff and compressed audio be a separate download.
>>318033308
Lossless literally means there is no loss of quality.
>>318033463
I know
What I'm saying is that a lot of times compression is lossy and it cripples quality
Look at the mgr example
Sure mgr on the xbox360 is 8gb compared to the 21gb it is on ps3 but the quality on the assets on ps3 especially the cutscenes is a huge difference
It's night and day
>>318033424
Basically make the basic game code the main game and the rest in multiple tiers of optional downloads
