What's the worst real Final Fantasy?
>>317978920
Two.
Given I liked every single one of them (even the nes FF2), I don't really like pinnin one as the worst.
FF12 IZJS was definitely the best though
>>317978920
When will the ff2 is bad meme end
I could never get into X or X-2.
>>317979124
then which one is worse than FF2?
I loved FF2 but it did have a lot of glaring flaws (especially its original version), I don't think of it as bad but I can think of it as the worst FF at the limit.
FFX best logo.
2 or 8
>8
>high tier
Is there anyone who actually believes this? Triple Triad was literally the only thing good about that game besides the music. That game had such shit characters/character development/story/gameplay. Fuckin hell I wish I had my time back.
>>317979429
>enjoying XIII more than X
How?
10 and 13 are the worst ones
and since 13 is basically 10 with a shittier everything, that places it on rock bottom
10-2, 13-2 and 13-3 were all pretty good though
>>317979604
I did not care for a single minigame in X, or the party, or the villains, or even the visuals at the time. The combat system was serviceable at best (tho' X-2 made it really legit) and the music was good but that's all I particularly liked.
Meanwhile I really liked the party in XIII, thought the worldbuilding was cool, and loved the OST. While the gameplay was still only serviceable at best like X and the villains were somehow even worse than Seymour and company, I liked it more overall for what it got right.
>>317979124
When it gets gud. So fucking never.
7 most overrated, x-2 worst
>>317979124
when it stops having the word job & levelling system in the series
>>317978920
Not even trolling but 6. I hated everything about that game when it came out except for the fantastic production value of it. There is no penalty for cheesing skills which makes standard attack useless, some characters are way OP when you get in to this. A lot of the set pieces are neat but not actually fun (stealth sections, Opera House), and I thought the overall story was pretty lame. I actually really liked 2 (even though I haven't played it in a very long time) and would probably put that in high, 3, 12 and 13 would go to mid and 7 would join it, 8 would get its own Elder God tier.
>>317978920
Worst: XIII
Best: Tactics
good games: 10, 9, 5, 4, 10-2, 13
overrated games: 6
really overrated: 7
shit: 8
shitter than shit: 1, 2, 3
too gay: 15
Almost assuredly XIII
2, 8, or 12
>muh XIII
Fuck off
>>317979908
There was literally no worldbuilding in FFXIII. There wasn't even a world. FFXIII does not take place in a world. It takes places in levels disconnected from civilization, people or drama.
>>317979124
When it gets remade for the combat to not suck
>>317978920
need a more specific category.2 is the answer to most
Hot opinions incoming. New captcha is bullshit, 15 attempts already.
>>317980394
But that is objectively false, it literally has the most detailed lore and history of any mainline non-MMO in the franchise.
Like yeah about 60% of it is locked up in the datalog but whats said in the course of the game itself is also fairly interesting and unique
>>317978920
>Low Tier
>12
I disagree.
Mind you, I did play the international version.
All shit compared to Dragon quest games.
>>317980718
NA version here, I liked it a lot but always got burnt out around the same area. Would love to have it on Vita and pick it up once a month for the rest of my life
>>317980615
If it's in a "datalog" and no where else then it does not exist at all.
>>317980595
Final Fantasy I
High tier
You sure?
>>317980615
>deus ex machina tropes
>interesting
FFX:
>unique setting and scenario
>mediocre lovestory but very interesting lore and overall story
>>317978920
12 and 13 left really bad tastes in my mouth and I dropped the series.
2009 was the last time I looked in to the series
>>317980858
>if its in the game then it doesn't exist
I mean you still get a fuckload of detail and cool info talking to NPCs throughout the city areas, from party member banter/observations as you're out running about from all of the l'Cie missions you can complete, and from the story itself.
>>317980989
Anon I don't think you actually know what deus ex machina as a trope means or what the fal'Cie actually were.
>>317978920
FF12 isn't bad in the slightest. I would believe it to be at the very least mid tier.
X gets far too much praise for the braindead characters voice acting and story.
8 only ever had it's music and triple Triad going for it.
3 also wasn't bad it just suffered for having a poor story due to being a fucking Nes Era game.
>>317980750
Dragon Quest is gruel for soulless Japs.
>>317980595
Swap X-2 and 3 in for 1 and you have top tier taste
>>317980947
Yes, mostly for nostalgic reasons.Fucking hell the captchas are completely broken
>>317979124
When they fix the game so I doesn't punish you just for playing. And no, that doesn't make it "challenging" it makes everything you have to do in that game a complete chore.
>>317980828
>I liked it a lot but always got burnt out around the same area
The fast forward function in the International Version really helps with those slow parts.
>>317978920
Where are XI and XIV
>>317978920
Two, it's made by that fuck of kawazu after all
>>317981293
MMOsotheydontcountlel
But honestly the lengthy and ever changing nature of them is a fair enough reason to discount them for most of these lists. Far as I'm concerned at least.
Though I do think both have some of the best stories out of the series.
>>317978920
>XII
>Low
How can you have THIS bad of taste?
>>317981774
>this list
>>317978920
>8
>High tier
Love that Junctioning, GF leveling, and retarded, even for a JRPG, story.
>>317981774
I feel like the only one who likes 13-2
>>317982112
Nah anon, I'm with you.
>>317979429
>>317981774
I can behind this list
>>317982112
It was far better than XIII don't get me wrong but it is still bottom of the barrel in terms of coherency and characters.
>>317981774
>FF2
>above anything
The worst FF is obviously 13
Any other answer is BS
>>317982251
Yeah i hated caius and the shard hunting but other than that I found it to be a solid game but I understand how some wouldn't like it because its a far cry as a final fantasy game
>>317981421
At least a better series than FF came out of that experiment.
>>317978920
Never played 1, 2 or anything after XII
VIII was the only one that was so bad that I dropped it because I just couldn´t give a shit anymore
How good is ff tactics advance?
Is type-o fun you guys
>>317985260
The combat is really great all the characters have different play styles and they all feel unique so trying out everyone and making the perfect team is the best part of the game.
I didn't care much about the story or the actual characters though and the motion blur is awful but you get used to it
14
>>317981774
I only agree with your God Tier, everything else is bait.
I really like FF Crystal Chronicles, too bad almost no one played it.
>>317986347
>everything else is bait
if you get baited by good taste, maybe
>>317978920
golden age tier
4 5 6 7
good tier
9 12
alright tier
1 3
shit tier
2 8 10
just fuck my franchise up tier
13
please be amazing tier
15
>>317986437
>10 good taste
>>317978920
8 or 2
>>317986572
How memey of you.
>>317980595
XII above Low tier? Are you sure?
2 or 13
>>317981774
Bump XI to high and I can get behind this.
When's the next final fantasy sale on PSN?
God Tier:
>VI, VII, XIV ARR
High Tier:
>V, IX, X
Medium Tier:
>I, IV, XIII, XI
Low Tier:
>II, III, VIII
Shit Tier:
>XII
(The meme that XII was good needs to stop)
>>317988384
the pic? or the list because its pretty solid
>>317988515
Yes. Ivalice is a great setting, Gambits are fun to customize, soundtrack is great too.
>>317988760
>XIII that high
>XIV above XI let alone near got tier
>>317988760
putting 10 that high shoes some brain damage so you can't be trusted to make a list
The Spirits Within
>>317988882
Uh....are you sure it's just not your rose tainted glasses? XII was shit dude.
>>317988760
>13 that high
>>317989029
Yup, I'm sure.
>>317978920
IV should be God tier if X made it up there. IX should be high or God tier, XII belongs in mid tier, and X-2 should go in low tier
>>317989029
not him but it was pretty good
>>317988926
>shoes
misspelling that bad shows some brain damage so your opinion is discarded.
>>317989046
I liked the combat system but it being a corridor simulator keeps it from being higher.
>>317989104
I think you two have brain damage. XII had little to no redeeming value and the worst combat system and 95% of the characters were forgettable. It was an absolute failure of a FF game.
>>317989260
was suppose to quote
>>317989138
with this guy.
>>317978920
FFX its when the normies flooded the series and wanted more crappy versions like 10
A faggot love story and a teenage boy with daddy issues.
FF13 was good to so fuck off.
>>317985164
The best ever
>>317989340
>FF13 was good to so fuck off
Here's where the underaged normies flooded the series.
>>317989260
At least I'm not the one who thinks XIII is better than III, VIII and XII.
>>317989260
>I think you two have brain damage. XII had little to no redeeming value and the worst combat system and 95% of the characters were forgettable. It was an absolute failure of a FF game.
after 10 it was nice to see well designed dungeons and a story that wasn't retarded along with an innovative combat system that gave me the opportunity to use the environment to my advantage but you put 13 in mid tier so what do you know about quality
>>317989653
XIII had a better combat system, a slightly more coherent story, better characters, honestly, I don't see how anyone can like that garbage that is XII over XIII which is still bad but more enjoyable then XII.
>>317990001
better combat system
nope
coherent story
nope
better characters
nope
how anyone can fine any positive things about that mess is beyond me
>>317981774
seriously, please stop putting xi in your lists if you obviously haven't played past level 5
>>317990152
Your autism is showing anon.
>>317990245
He's not the one throwing a fit over "meme" taste that conflicts with his own.
>>317990152
It's a mess yes, however it's less of a mess then that train wreak that was XII
>>317979429
Last remnant fucking where
>>317990401
yes he is.
8
>>317990521
no, that would be
>>317988515
>>317988760
>>317989029
>>317989260
9 was the last good final fantasy and ever since they just keep getting worse and worse, the worst game is going to definately be the lastest one released.
>>317990596
Crying over facts doesn't show that you're an adult, you're an autistic child that can't accept that XII is a shitty game. I mean it's one of the worst selling games in the series.
>>317978920
FFXI
>>317990756
whatever you say big boy
>>317991012
How many hours in photoshop did that take ya kid?
>People shitting on FFX
Characters were largely likeable, combat was good, story was mediocre but not terrible and the soundtrack is elder god tier.
FFX was a 7/10 JRPG.
>>317978920
> VII, X
> god tier
> VIII high tier
> IX mid tier
>>317991012
If you're gonna post sales figgures be sure to include all sales from all systems. That would mean XII would be a lot lower you faggot.
>>317981774
You sir, i would buy you a beer for this glorious list.
>Implying my opinion matters
as for worst final fantasy, 8 is the worst I've played probably, I didn't like the junction system and i stopped when thePlot Twist[/spoilers] happened.
Triple triad was fun.
>>317991367
Don't bother, XII is higher then dog shit.
>>317991376
oops
Best = ff7
worst = ffx
13 isn't the worst because everyone should have stopped playing at X realizing the franchise is dead
>>317991105
you sure got me with all that epic trolling you've done. great job.
>>317991225
>lot lower
Nah, it'd go one spot lower by combining FFXIII on both systems. Even combining the original and DS versions of III is less total sales than XII on PS2 alone, and the FFXIII sequels sold worse.
II is bad, it is a very experimental game and unfortunately most of the experiments went wrong.
The stat leveling system kills it and the npc dialogue system buries it.
>>317991012
>including only one platform per title
nice cherry picking there.
>I isn't good meme
>X is bad meme
>XII is really bad meme
>XIII is awful meme
>>317990756
praising the game that everyone hates is autistic
>>317991590
show me proof that it's one of the worst selling games in the series then, I'm curious.
>Final Fantasy X is the worst
It never gets old seeing people try to shit on the game with the best gameplay in the series. It speaks volumes about the fanbase
>God tier
V, VI, Tactics
>Great tier
VII, IX, XII
>Fuck you I liked it tier
VIII
>Okay tier
I, IV
>Meh tier
X
>Bad tier
II, XIIIOpinions
>>317990413
nope
>>317991548
PC sales count to you faggot and GBA remakes as well
>>317991709
>game with the best gameplay
turn based combat isn't gonna carry a jrpg if its story is terrible then the game isn't worth playing
>>317991537
>FFX is worse than FFI&II
I don't know which is worse, that you're lying about having played the first ones or that you're actually the sort of faggot to convince yourself they were better games.
>>317991853
They would if it was updated right.
So, what's the /v/erdict? It never gets mentioned, ever.I played it before I played 4.
>>317991853
multiplats will always have higher sales so its not a fair comparison
>>317991786
yep, deal with it.
>>317992132
So you admit that you cherry picked it and it isn't a better seller then you claim. Thanks for proving my point.
>>317991950
>The GAMEPLAY can't carry this GAME because I don't like the STORY!
Take a step back and think about what you said
>>317992132
Sorry kid, if you're gonna make an argument that a game sold better then other games, gotta include all sales from all systems. Otherwise you're no better then a SJW
>>317991853
I don't even know where you're going with this. Even barring the relatively low sales of the ports, it's not like people who bought the originals knew the games would have GBA/PC ports later on. Final Fantasy XII would have more sales if it had ports as well, it's a meaningless argument.
>>317992220
wasn't the same guy I was only pointing out the obvious so its only fair to compare each ff game when they were exclusive and 13 is shit by the way
>>317992301
>Otherwise you're no better then a SJW
Oh Christ, as if the conversation wasn't already embarrassing enough
>>317992237
turn based combat isn't interesting enough to carry any game this is why ff has been a story focused franchise for so long
>>317992220
>>317992301
Your shitposts would make more sense if I actually claimed that at any point in this thread, I was refuting the "point" that it was one of the worst selling.
>>317992402
This guy's an expert.
>8
>high tier
>>317992237
>playing ff for its combat
>>317992352
It is fair to compare sales of multi platform games vs a game that was released on one system when when it's in the same series. All sales count.
>>317992535
It is one of the worst selling FF games. You faggots are delusional and are cherry picking sales numbers to prove me wrong when I'm right. All sales count when talking sales numbers.
>>317992678
As I said before, feel free to show me your source for total sales.
>>317992626
Replace XIII with XII and that would be perfect.
>>317991709
The problem with FFX's gameplay is that it's shit until the endgame. The only cool element of the gameplay for most of it is the Trigger Commands in certain boss battles that can be used to make some unique fight mechanics.
Aside from that all the interesting elements are nonexistent or unnecessary until you hit the end of the game and do the optional content, Most characters are heavily restricted on the Sphere Grid until around then, weapon abilities don't matter much at all until around then, and the vast majority of normal battles in the game boil down to "switch to the character that's good against this enemy type and one-shot it/debilitate it to the point where it can barely do anything," so none of the actual good mechanics involving manipulating turn order and stuff are relevant.
Basically the game has a bunch of good systems that it doesn't use until endgame, making most of it a boring slog. And if it takes 'til endgame for a game to get good, it's not a good game.
>>317992626
>8 instead of 4
8 was at least decent.
>>317992503
>turn based combat isn't interesting
What the fuck
I think I found where the disconnect is
>>317992756
he's still at it!
>>317992678
since every ff was exclusive before becoming a multiplat they can only be compared as exclusives if one of them hasn't been ported otherwise it will win because of the situation surrounding it instead of its own merits
>>317992631
>playing a video game for anything other than the gameplay
>>317992795
>Implying 4 was shit
Look at this tasteless faggot.
>>317992951
Yes because you faggots can't accept that FF XII was god awful and deserves the title of absolute failure for the FF series.
>>317993051
Thanks for confirming that FF XII didn't sell as well as you faggots claim in did.
>>317992896
it isn't enough to carry the entire game in final fantasy the stories are the single most important part of the experience
>>317978920
FF2
>>317993194
Battle system > Music > Characters > Story > graphics.
>>317992795
uh you got that the other way around
>>317992756
despite what you think of 12 it's a lot better than those 3 shit stains
>>317993098
rpgs are story focused games more news at 11
>>317978920
11 > 7 > 9 > 12 (zodiac) > 5 > 3 > 6 > 10 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 8 > 13 > 14
>>317993194
dude the stories in Final Fantasy are shit to ok at best, FFX has the best combat and it's turn based
>>317993271
No no no, 12 is an epic fail.
>>317993267
in a turn based rpg its
writing>gameplay>music>graphics
>>317981774
I can agree with this list even though IV is my favorite (but that's completely for nostalgia).
>>317993350
some are good and some are bad 10 has some of the worst writing in the series so its at the bottom with the other rejects
>>317986572
thank you anon for having good opinions
>>317993540
Which one would you consider good? When I see Final Fantasy stories and compared them to the likes of games like xenogears or suikoden, they just don't compare story wise
>>317993142
13 will always be at the bottom get over it
>>317978920
2. It's not a bad game but it's easily the worst FF.
>>317993194
I seriously disagree. Turn based combat is great, I'd take it over ATB any day. What's with the obsession of downplaying a game for being turn based?
And if you have to suffer through a game to get a story just go read a book.
>>317993643
Look, I agree that XIII is terrible, but it's not as bad as XII, VIII, or II. You're only parroting the XIII is bad meme and you don't even realize it.
>>317993632
I know that these are both overrated but its probably a tie between 6 and 7
>>317991730
>IV in okay tier
did you even play it anon?
>>317992117
it's really only for fans of IV. It's not that great of a title alone.
What did you think of it though, having played it before IV?
>>317993779
its at the bottom until further notice
If you don't rate the MMOs you're a pleb
If you rate XIV highly you're a fag
If you rate XIII highly you don't know shit about vidya
If you rate XI low you're a pleb
>>317993835
I'd say those are the only decent FF stories. 10 has a good structure with the pyreflies but the writing fucks it up
rest are just shit or boring.
>>317978920
>having taste this bad
final fantasy x was awful
>>317993728
rpgs have always been story driven games the gameplay in most final fantasy games ranges from terrible to tolerable
>>317993926
Updated notice, XII and XIII have switched places and will remain like that until further notice after 10 years.
VIII > X > IX > VII > VI > LR > XIII-2 >XII > IV > XIII > X-2 > V > III > I > II
None of them werebad.
>>317994063
Anything 13 related is bad.
>>317994114
That's objectively incorrect.
>>317994114
Epic maymay bro like like so epic! I've never seen that maymay!
>>317994035
>>317978920
FFXII
I'd say FFXIII, but that game is just a carbon copy of XII and equally shit if not less
>>317994203
>>317994207
>b-b-b-b-b-but armpits!
![LOLATYOURLIFE_zpsfdd86388[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gLzCe9h.png "LOLATYOURLIFE_zpsfdd86388[1].png")
>>317994063
>8 at the top
already shit
>>317994024
We are on completely different pages here anon. You straight up don't like the gameplay of jrpgs, whereas most people who actually like jrpgs enjoy the gameplay in addition to the story.
Is there any jrpg series you've played where you like the gameplay? Because this is really depressing
>>317994258
What about Final Fantasy XII is good faggots?
>>317994262
>carbon copy of 12
>no gambits
>can't move during battle
No.
>>317994203
>>317994207
13 hipsters look its the mass effect of the franchise and nobody likes it now get over it
>>317994359
it's not 13
>>317994359
It's not 14
>>317994303
It's the best one. Let me guess, you're one of the retards confused by time compression? LMAO fucking underage scum.
>>317994334
custom robo or resonance of fate
>>317994430
So XII is shit and XIII is good?
>>317994487
14 1.0 is the only thing I would say comes close to being worse then XII, but ARR saved it.
>>317994381
But mass effect was good anon and is well loved (minus the ending in 3)
>>317994502
I don't care about story (despite being fucking HORRIBLE in 8)
the gameplay is a goddamn mess by all means
>>317993836
I did. I left out the games I didn't play (III, the MMOs)
IV was just okay to me. The story ranged from alright to retarded and the gameplay was pretty bog standard (understandable since it established the standard, but still) with the addition of being painfully railroaded with no character/party customization at all. It has its moments but for the most part it's not especially interesting.
I've played 7, 9, 10, 10-2, and 13. I also played a small amount of Tactics.
Of those, 9, 10-2, and 13 were all pretty shit. It's hard to say which is the worst.
I actually was pretty interested in the story of 13, but most characters were annoying and the gameplay was unbearable.
I wasn't fond of any aspect of 9, but none of it was terrible, either. It was just uninteresting in every way.
I'll admit that maybe I was too quick to judge 10-2, but it seems like every aspect of it was designed to be as different as possible from X. There's a chance I could've enjoyed it for what it was, if it had a different title and setting, but at the time I found every moment of the game unpleasant.
So I'm going to give it to 9. There was some parts of 13 I liked, and some parts I abhorred, but at least it made an impression on me. Being universally boring is worse than that.
>>317994583
>but ARR saved it.
But ARR is shit, anon. You faggot.
>>317994262
>FFXIII is a carbon copy of XII
???
>>317994359
I already partially answered here >>317988882. Level design is also more about exploration (and earlier on), and the story was slightly more down to earth.
>>317994303
>not liking VIII
Best-handled inter-party romance of the whole series with IX coming in a close second.
>>317994636
I guess you don't have friends to play it with anon. It's pretty fun with friends (JUST STAY OUT OF BALMUNG)
>>317994583
everything about mass effect 3 was terrible (aside from its multiplayer) next you'll tell me that resident evil 6 was good
>>317994586
>he didn't know how to properly junction
>he didn't use it to customize the game exactly to his liking
Bad opinions incoming
>Heavily Enjoyed
FFIX, FFV, FFVI
>Enjoyed
FFIV, FFIII,FFII, FFVIII Disc 1
>Indifferent
FFI, FFX
>Dissappointed
FFVII
>Fuck this
FFVIII Discs 2&3
Haven't played XI - XIV yet
>>317994725
>It's pretty fun with friends
So is cutting grass and kicking shit.
>>317994661
>Story down to earth
A story about politics? It's the worst story in the franchise.
>>317994619
If you honestly think any of those games are bad you have astoundingly awful taste.
>>317994730
>he didn't know how to properly junction
that's the problem, the junctioning broke the game
>>317994705
this is a joke right? 8's """""""""""""""""""romance"""""""""""""""""""""""""" was complete garbage. Not that any final fantasy has good romance, but 8 is another level of shit
>>317994359
>copypasta because it's cool to hate on XII for parroted reasons, so you get copypasta in return
- Gambits add a strategy element to the previously monotonous "Attack, Defend, Magic vs. Weakness" menu system.
- The story, though traditional, is far more polished and accessible (thus cathartic and universal) than any other Final Fantasy.
- The use of an 'unplayable' main protagonist in Basch/Ashe, with the player character as a virtual onlooker to events much, much larger than his station in life would ever become allows for an unique and refreshing take on the hero's journey compared to what previous FFs had relied on; all of which suffered from a predictable rise from rags to superhuman, world-saving riches instead of a more plausible hero who was full of faults and truly relied on his teammates instead of carrying them through in every instance.
- Three lovely ladies and two straight-up ballers accompany you - each with their own recognizable yet discrete backstories and character arcs which are eminently satisfying and integrated into the main narrative seamlessly, and are both causal and conditional to the overarching narrative.
- The motion capture, character design, lore, voice acting, and English translation are unrivaled in a Final Fantasy, and even in most video games, period.
TL;DR Final Fantasy XII (specifically IZJS) is the pinnacle of the franchise and for any future title to have a hope to supersede it, a paradigm shift in narrative and design when it comes to the medium itself would be virtually the only way.
>>317994834
not while 10 and 13 exist
>>317994726
Actually no I won't Resident Evil 6 is the worst resident evil.
>>317994820
Neither of those are fun unless you're retarded. Guess you just outed yourself.
>>317994915
Hey now, X's story was enjoyable.
>>317994359
Setting, Gambits, proper realisation of ATB commands and real time movement in combat
>>317994779
Pirate XIII if you really want to play it.
I think it's one of the few games in my life that I actually had buyer's remorse.
The worst thing is that I really tried to like it.
>>317994985
Says the faggot XIV player.
>>317994592
To be fair the story is pretty over-dramatic at times, so I'll give you that. I think though for its time it did something pretty special, both being the first Final Fantasy with a good story and characters. You can analyze the game from an almost literary standpoint: think of how pervasive the theme of 'Redemption' is, both big and small ways, from the beginning quest for the king, to righting your wrongs, to Golbez, to a bunch of characters etc. It's pretty compelling, for 1991.
Most of this is admittedly nostalgia though for the game from over the years.
>>317981623
>MMO
I would count them though.
>>317993925
I liked it, but I didn't quite know what was going on. So I kind had to infer what actually happened before hand. Too my surprise, not much different.That and I never really played much RPGs before that game, with the only other RPG games I played before being Pokemon and FF1
>>317994905
Junctioning only broke the game if you went out of your way to do so. Nobody is going to break it during regular play.
>>317994913
>Gambits add a strategy
and take control away with an awful battle system that should've been turn based.
>Story is more polished
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>Three lovely ladies
>implying Penelo was lovely
I'll give you Ashe and the bunny girl.
>Motion capture, etc
So? everything else about the game was awful so that point is moot.
When will you realize that FF XII was good is just a meme that needs to die?
>>317995190
>you hate the junctioning system because you don't know how it works!
>you hate the junctioning system because you know how it works too much!
make up your fucking mind
>>317995064
I never played XIV in my life. I was just calling you out for being a self-admitted retard.
>>317994915
>10's story worse then 12's
yeeaaaahhhh no you're a fag
>>317995014
That's the main problem I had with 12, I spent more time setting gambits then playing.
>>317995164
Did you find it to be pretty grind-heavy, or was that just me? While IV was really, really linear, I liked that so long as you didn't avoid random encounters you'd generally be leveled enough to handle bosses (excluding maybe the last one which required some grinding on the GBA and DS).
>>317995264
Not the same poster anon.
>>317995271
>It wasn't me!
Looks like I win.
>>317995351
either way, the system is garbage
>>317995364
no, you don't win anything anon.
>>317994583
>But mass effect was good anon and is well loved (minus the ending in 3)
Reddit was the other way, friend.
>>317995364
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>317992631I like every FF's combat and have played all of them except the DS and gamecube spin offs
>>317978920
>3 lower than 1
Yeah no
>>317995436
I don't visit Reddit, but feel free to go back there anon.
>>317995434
>>317995483
>>317979429
>V
>XII
I like you a lot, anon.>>317979592
>>317995429
It was fine as long as you didn't intentionally break it. It offered some of the deepest customization in the series.
>>317994915
Writing is subjective faggot, there is no such thing as objectively good writing, it's all opinions
>>317994705
>then and after compilation
accurate
>>317995067
Yeah, I don't really have any nostalgia for IV. I first played it on PS1 after already playing VII and VIII, pretty much forgot about it, and then didn't play it again until a couple years ago. So I wind up judging it next it to the other SNES FFs and finding it just alright by comparison. It obviously established a lot of elements that the "golden age" FFs were known for, but next to the later games I just don't find it all that compelling.
I still rank it above X because I never had to force myself to finish it or anything, and it's definitely not a "bad" game like II or XIII, but it doesn't really do anything to make me love it.
>>317980750
Who is this semen demon?
>>317995290
the villain in 10 wants to destroy the world because he doesn't want to see any more suffering
how is this quality writing?
>>317995612
Go play Zestiria and tell me it's all subjective.
>>317995492
That's the norm, and how it's supposed to be. Don't let him trick you
>>317995714
Some whore from a bad game in a terrible franchise.
>>317995748
I didn't say it was good, you did. I'm just saying it's not the worst story.
>>317995748
What's wrong with it?
>>317995612
quality writing is entirely subjective terrible writing on the other hand is universal
>>317995749
Not him, but Zestiria is at least better than Abyss, Graces, and Hearts. Both in terms of writing and overall.
>>317995749
Zestiria is sitting on my shelf, I won't get around to it for another few weeks. You picked a poor example though, I've seen plenty of people saying they enjoyed Zesty.I thought Final Fantasy fans were too cool to play Tales games
X-2.
Shame because it had the best battle system but everything else was fucking S-H-I-T.
Even the fucking was music was shit. SHIT MUSIC IN A FF GAME.
>>317995926
Well thanks for posting to let us know you have bad taste.
>>317995862
That makes zero sense. One can't be subjective without the other being subjective.
>>317995926
Fuck off
>>317995748
There was at least three major villains in 10, depending on how you count.
The villain that provided primary motivation to the protagonist and started the story, Jecht; the villain that most directly antagonized the party, Seymour; and the villain behind it all, Yevon.
Each of these characters wanted different things for different reasons, and only one of them wanted to destroy the world- and that one had devolved into an insane subhuman zombie over the course of the game.
3 could've been God Tier if it allowed you to save in dungeons.
>>317996034
Sure thing fag. Anyone who likes the three I mentioned over anything are the ones with true shit taste.
