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Siding with the Institute is the canon and morally correct ending, right?


I doubt anyone even bothered helping the Railroad, what a pathetic faction
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I sided with railroad because i was bored and i doubted that the ending would really be different.
Put a railroad spike through that piece of shit of a son, pham.
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>>317871058
How was he a piece of shit?

Railroad was literally the SJW choice
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>>317871251
Institute is the Reddit choice.
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>>317870752
I sided with the brotherhood because I decided to start roleplaying as a devout BoS soldier when I joined. So even though I wanted to help the institute, I had to live by the BoS rules for that playthrough.
I thought the institute might be alright but they were doing some strange experiments involving FEV in one of their hidden labs.
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>>317871402
Institute is the normal choice
Brotherhood is the edgy 10 year old choice
Railroad is the 'anti-racist' choice
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>Institute
>Canon and morally correct
>The same faction that kidnaps and replaces people with synths and are so autistic they fight between their own divisions

Disgusting
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I sided with Paladin Danse.
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>>317871481
You have to admit the scene where the Prydwyn comes flying in is pretty freaking badass though. The Brotherhood is the one you pick to be a bad-ass in power armor with laser rifles.
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>>317871481
>anti-racist is now considered SJW
what the fuck
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>>317871481
>Brotherhood
>Edgy
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FINALLY, another person on /v/ who sided with the Institute... I was beginning to think I was the only one, why wouldn't you want to be a bad ass courser?

>2015
>still liking the BoS

Absolute shit taste to be completely honestly family man.
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I sided with the Institute purely so I could destroy the BOS for what they did to the Enclave
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>>317871758

>Synth
>Race
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>Technologically advance enough to build robots that can think and act like real people
>Enslave them

Why didn't they just make dumber robots.
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>>317871974
he's the one that said it, not me
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>>317871758
I would think they aren't SJW except for having such blatant disregard for humans
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>>317871731
>freaking
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So, I'm very strongly inclined to say 'no'.
Danse says he'll expect me to follow his orders- that's a problem when I'm the 'General' of the minutemen.

How much of a fuckup would saying no be?
What are the benefits to saying yes, and are you basically a private under this faggot?
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>>317870752
>kidnapping, murder and replacing people with the purpose of espionage or causing chaos
>deliberately destroy the emerging government in the region because it doesn't do what you want
>amoral FEV research
>create fully conscious AI then enslave them and treat obvious signs of sentience as a software glitch

Not to mention that they really suck at the whole super-science thing. Besides the synths what else have they actually invented in the 100+ years the institute has existed?
Their whole Aperture Science look and clean floors is literally held up by an abundance of slave labour. You can see synths mopping up and being forced to do manual labour all over the place.

The fact that you cannot throw all this in Shaun's face as he waxes about 'muh future of humanity' was really infuriating. The Institute is just another faction of extremist control-freaks.

The Railroad and the Minutemen were the only sane factions, mostly since they were the only ones who's every action didn't revolve around being the biggest dicks possible.
The Brotherhood could've made more sense if they'd come to restore order to the Commonwealth, but their absurd anti-synth crusade made no fucking sense whatsoever. The inconsistent writing becomes even more obvious when they first allow you to spare Danse through persuasion, even though he's a synth with inside knowledge of their entire order, only to then order you to wipe out the Railroad, who's only crime was helping the slaves of their common enemy escape and find a new life for themselves.
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>>317871251
>Railroad was literally the SJW choice
Railroad is for adult, well adjusted people that fear not the unknown.
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>>317873002
Do you have to join the brotherhood to see the danse quests?
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>>317871481
>brotherhood edgy
>institute normal

people will take this faggot seriously
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>>317870752
PRESS X TO HATE SHAUN
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>>317873275
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Is the 308 pipe revolver any good?
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>>317873391
I think so, since it's past the point where you go to fetch the Beryllium-McGuffin, which commits you to your faction.
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>>317872996
You can join the BoS, and then completely ignore him for the rest of the game, absolutely no consequences on the story even if you decide to side with the BoS.
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>>317870752
I only picked the Railroad because they didn't want to kill all the Synth, but they were dumb as fuck and cared nothing about anything, but the Synths.
I just wanted to pick a side that that is nice to robots and not stupid as fuck, but I guess that is too much to ask.
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>>317872996
Did Danse remind anyone else STRONGLY of George Clooney?

Voice and all
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>>317873509
No. Go with 308 Combat rifle.
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>>317873854
so you wanted to pick minute men but then decided to go railroad? Are you retarded?
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> 2000+10+10-5
> Still wanting to be a paladin

insert Holly shit! Anon!! You are such a fuckingfaggot.jpg here
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>>317872996
You can pursue all four faction's main-quest up to a certain point with virtually zero conflicts or people even acknowledging that you're standing in the Railroad head-quarters in a full BOS uniform. Hell, Deacon will even mention that you're a knight/initiate and they'll only see it as proof of how super-cool-oc-donut-steel you are.
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>>317873735
Does being flagged as a 'member' of the brotherhood have any effects elsewhere?
What is your actual status within the faction? Do they try to hand you beginner/grunt work or are you treated as a semi-independent contractor with a rank on-par with squad leaders?
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Institute seemed to be the most capable of securing humanity's future so I chose them. As director hopefully my character can pull them away from their more extreme methods.
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>>317874160
what? Is George Clooney reddit?
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>>317870752
>Siding with anybody other than the Railroad or Minutemen
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>>317873509
>308 pipe
>revolver
Revolver is .45, 308 is bot-action.
Go for the .45 CR asap, and the 308 bolt-action is only good if you can find a suppressor for it.
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>>317874019
I realized my mistake after I did it and was to lazy to go back a few saves.
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>tfw roleplaying a Cginese 5th columnist surgically altered to look human whose memories resurface after the world ends and comes to serve the Institute to rebuild the world
>tfw can't fucking make a decent asian face
Eh, I guess the voice would ruin it anyways
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>>317874269
>siding with the railroad

its almost like you want boston to be taken over by raiders
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>>317874178
Interesting.

>>317873895
Now that you mention it...
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THANKS TODD
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>>317870752
>Propagating the cancer that is AGI
You are what's wrong with the wasteland.
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>>317874302
>Not modding your guns
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>>317874183
You start as their errand boy for a small recon team, but after a bit the main fighting force arrives and the leader of the recon team sponsors your entry into the Brotherhood as a Knight, and you can work your way up the ranks
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>>317870752
>WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE GREATER GOOD

WHAT ARE YOU DOING THOUGH, THEY NEVER EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING
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>>317874381
>chinese
>surgically altered to look human
Impossible.
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>>317873895
That other anon is schizo, I thought he could have been voiced by Clooney like the dad was voiced by Neeson last game
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>abandoning your son
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>>317874396
Railroad is the only faction killing raiders to make safehouses.
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>playing on PS4
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>>317874580
>wasting .308 with a stunted revolver 'rifle'
disgusting taste desu senpai
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>>317874632
>>surgically altered to look human
Oh god I meant look American
Top fucking kek
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>>317873895
That wasn't George Clooney? They even modelled it like him
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What gets me with Railroad is that we saw what rogue Synth can do. They create a Mad Max style hell scape with their power.

Minutemen are found to be on an uneven footing despite best intentions.

Institute is shady but also very competent and with best plan for the future.

BoS is fairly fascist but they get results and wipe out the danger factor of scientists, mutants and synths. As far as pro human factions go, BoS is undoubtedly superior to all.
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>>317871058
I didn't have a problem with the Railroad. After seeing what a bro Nick was I thought Synths should get fair treatment.

Then the Railroad quest line wraps up with a huge fucking killing spree, and ends with you blowing up all of the east coast's greatest minds just because.

Fuck the Railroad.
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>>317874736
>wasting .308 on anything other than the combat rifle
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>>317874603
>tfw you accept the invitation
>tfw you don't side with the BoS at the end
>tfw the recon leader turns out to be a synth and his sponsoring of you in the first place becomes suspect
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>>317874704
>railroad is the only faction killing raiders to make settlements

so you havent played the game then anon? The first few hours is killing raiders to make way for the minutemen
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>>317874868
Minutemen are a fucking joke, they get nothing done
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>>317873408
Brotherhood is as edgy as you can get dude. Theyre written worse than the Enclave was in 3 and thats something I thought would be impossible.
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>>317874396
>Kill raiders all the time to make safehouses
Lol?
If anything the institute wants the whole world to be taken over by raiders because i-its scawy outside
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>>317874868
>Minutemen are found to be on an uneven footing despite best intentions.


how so?
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>>317874932
Danse legitimately didn't know the plot twist though.
>>317874986
>kill raiders to open Settlements
>same Settlements are immediately under attack from the same raiders across the map
>minutemen can't accomplish shit by themselves
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>>317874926
But anon, the combat rifle is best for putting that cheap, plentiful .45 to good use.
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>all these Bos PLEBS ITT

Kill your selves please
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>Not siding with the BoS master race
>Not cleansing the wasteland of terminators and mutants to help mankind prosper
>Considering siding with terminator-enabling 'it has a face so it must be treated as a human' idiots
>Considering siding with 'Lets make terminators and FUCK everyone above ground' 1%ers
>Considering doing anything other than tolerate the noble but useless local police minutemen that'd crumble instantly under any serious threat

Get on my LEVEL
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>>317875061
>nuking every survivor in the commonwealth isnt edgy because I said so
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>>317875061
I love this tasty meem
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>>317875158
You first, tribal.
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>>317875158
I didn't expect the synth internet defense force to start posting so soon.
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Anyone know how to make your power armour not look like a rusty piece of shit?
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>>317875110
They're nice and all but their creedo is "settle and respond to threats near to settlements"
Say a horde of behemoths or deathclaw infestation happened, they'd be underprepared and fucked.
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>>317875308
Upgrade it to a higher Model type, Model C restores the original color.
Or just paint it
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>>317875181
I would have to jump down about 20 levels to get their buddy. Shit tastes
>>317875248
>>317875226
>Nuking every survivor in the commonwealth

I see you havent played the game and are still listening to shitty pre-release memes. Courier in Big MT and Sole Survivor in The Institute is objectively the best outcome for the world of Fallout. Stay mad NeoNazis.
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>>317874998
Didn't they get ambushed by the institute?
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>>317875294
BOS is tribal as fuck compared to the institute
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>>317875110
The back story of current Minutemen is that all their former leaders committed genocide and decide to splinter into separate clans
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>>317875135
>kill raiders to make way for synths
>railroad faggots are weak and die
>you end up saving them constantly

whats your point? Thats how the game works. Nothing happens until the protag makes it happen and they all rely heavily on you to do anything

Your argument is poorly though through son
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>not roleplaying as a military scientist horrified with what the world has become who refuses to leave Power Armor, or at least a Hazmat Suit, any time he leaves a sealed environment
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>>317875453
At least the Brotherhood wouldn't unleash a plague like AGI onto the wasteland.
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>>317874519
I have no idea why the decided to make melee so overpowered in this game, even more so with how rare ammo is.
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>>317871647
>Paladin Danse LOVED this
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>>317875308
Mark IV X-01 and it still looks exactly the same.
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You can either

>Help any of the non-institute factions and maintain the status quo or make an insignificant difference by killing a few raiders here and there

Or

>Help the Institute to pave way for a new, vastly better world, ignoring the savages and wasters on the surface

Only a retard would place the wellbeing of the people of the Commonwealth before the wellbeing of the whole human race.
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>>317872996
I can't listen to Danse and not hear Buzz Lightyear.
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>>317875506
So do every other faction you dumb shit
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>>317875453
But it is the kind of tribalism that works. Might through results, not sheer nepotism. It is an imperial style tribalism. Not the Nigger festival of Railroad, or the Walking Dead bullshit of Minutemen
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>>317875581
meant for>>317875382
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>>317875581
Anything over Mark 1 should replace the 100% rusty look with an actual metallic look.

I wish winterized coating was available on X-01
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>>317875430
>So many "yes well that was regrettable" or "that was a mistake" or "that was kellog's fault" moments
>You still think institute is a good idea

K I L L Y O U R S E L F
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>>317875506
>impmying the Railroad aren't dogshit too
Haha
BoS or Institute are literally the only options. Independent/Anarchy ending would have been nice though
>kill your Son, or leave him medically disposed of
>take Shaunbot or don't
>live in a comfy life somewhere in the waste
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>>317875617
But that isn't true. Institute was expanding their operations to the surface. That was their whole point.
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>>317875360
thats because you didnt build the settlements at each location and instead thought yeah a shack with 2 beds is a strong defence.

If you on the other hand was roleplaying the general and stayed at each location to build it up to a defensible state then there wouldnt be any issue would there
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>>317871647
Same, us in our power armor with our plasma rifles taking on the world
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>>317875750
The Great Good troglodyte. Im sorry its too big a concept for your peanut brain to understand.
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>>317871731
>The Brotherhood is the one you pick to be a bad-ass in power armor with laser rifles.
You don't need Brotherhood to be a bad-ass in power armour with a laser rifle. You don't even need Brotherhood to be an ultra bad-ass in the best suit of powerarmour with the best lasgun in the game. I got my x-01 before they even gave me their shitty t60. And I'm not even talking about a final jetpack reward you can craft yourself.
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>>317875554
>Ammo
>Rare
What? Shit is everywhere.
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>>317875549
>sealed environment
What?
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>>317875772
True, but that takes time and during that time they cannot afford to coddle the people on the surface.
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>>317875735
If you side with the institute you get institute paint which is just white, and it removes rust off the X-01
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>>317874565
>mfw how bad PA looks in 3/nv
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>>317875617
>Hey guys let's rebuild the entire human race in this one square mile underground base
>Hey guys it's scary outside let's hide
>Hey guys lets make robots do all our work so we get fat and lazy
>Hey guys lets keep making these synths that are stronger, faster, and smarter than us and let's make them self aware
>Guys wait, THEN let's treat the strong, fast, smart, immortal, and self-aware robots like shit and piss them off all the time

Institute are retarded pussies
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I chose minutemen.

Best choice.
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>>317875773
>settlements are buckets of garbage piled up, sometimes with artillery
>Settlers don't even recognize you as General
>Minutemen themselves still running about in fucking beanies, flannel shirts, and Kids Next Door guns
>every single settlement still assraped 10 times a day by Raiders and you have to solve everything
Eminem worst faction
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>>317875773
Those walls are fucking sexy. Mods or magazines?

Also, even if every town was a literal fortress, their ideology/mandate is still too passive. There's no real long-term plan for coming up against a threat bigger or more organised than packs of super mutants and raiders.
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>>317876005
If you aren't a faggot you can find pink paint and become the pink ranger
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>>317874868

BoS would technically be the safest way of dealing with the wasteland's problems, but their doctrine is so rigid and encompassing, you can't possibly cause them to lower their bitch nature. Even after all you've done, Maxson still throws a bitch fit if you decide to spare Danse. Not to mention all the technology in the Institute going to waste because it isn't related to guns or lasers. Not to mention they don't actually care about any of the people in the world. The Bioscience division would essentially solve many of the issues that wastelanders have if it was expanded.

Not to mention, according to the ingame calender, you probably only know the BoS for like 1-2 months. Which is ridiculous the way you just adhere to what the Brotherhood does and everything it stands for just because Danse thinks you shoot good. Institute has your son, which you should have the most connection to unless you shot him in the face when he walked in. Yes, your son has no actual love for you in the first place when he thawed you out and yes, his plans are pretty iffy. But considering you're made the definite leader of Institute, you have the most ability to steer the Institute into not being complete fuckwads.

I mean if gen 3 synths cause you so much fucking problems, then stop making them. There's nothing that a gen 2 can't do. If you want a robot waifu, just do it on your own time or introduce kill/shutdown triggers that can be done long range. It's ridiculous.
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>>317875970
A Vault, or the Institute.
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>>317875656
thats the fucking point retard. Read the thread you double nigger

>>317875760
>BOS
hide is a pigpen until you go and save their shit.

>institute
kill everyone except MM and make a slave army

every option is shit
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>>317874176
What's his name again?
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>>317875843
They didn't give a single fuck about anyone above ground. What was their plan? Make robots? Be comfy in their little underground bunker? Come on, explain to me which good they were advancing that was so great.
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>>317870752
>siding with the eggheads who are so up their own asses they don't even realize they've created sentient AI

I sided with the Railroad because I feel like they would change the Commonwealth the least in terms of their presence. It's not like they rise up as some form of evil superpower in the ending. They're a secretive group at the start and they stay that way, even after destroying the Prydwen and the Institute.

Minutemen are probably the same but they're lame as fuck. Not to mention their existence just infuriates me. They're immortal so that you can get an ending even if you slaughter all the other factions. They're the physical embodiment of Bethesda's laziness and unwillingness to create an "independent" ending. No matter what I do with every character I make I make Mama Murphy OD and then never interact with them again.
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Can you put any hat on codsworth other than a bowler?
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>>317875773
Is that a settlement I didn't find or did you mod/consolecommand in concrete walls, potted plants and a giant radio tower?

Hard to roleplay as a general and build up defenses when the vanilla game mechanics don't even allow most of that. I had to use an exploit just to get junk fence walls to touch.
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>>317876163
Maxson bombs the Institute because he believes they are on the verge of making the next world-destroying mistake, and given how the Synths are eventually gonna go full SkyNet, he's probably right
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>>317876262
Blade the Vampire Hunter
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>>317876262
C-3P-YO
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>>317876331
It's a raider base you clear out, north central.
The walls are probably enabled by magazines
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Main I fucking hated the railroad leader.

So pleased when I got to mow her down into dust with my Ashmaker for the glorious Institute.
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>>317876225
>hide is a pigpen until you go and save their shit.
If you go to Cambridge, Danse handles the horde attack and the next quest all by himself no problem. They are using it as a base of operations, as a Recon team, they're not an assault group
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>>317876086
>not supplying your soldiers
>not protecting your people
>being a bitchboy follower
>not being a true leader

yeah you should just follow anon. Go be maxons errand boy
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>>317876147
I like the shark paint from the last hot rod magazine

It's too bad all they give is agility, which is pretty much useless. Is there even a reason to use anything other than the military paint with 2 strength chest mod and calibrated legs?
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>>317876304
Triggerman bowler
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>>317876267
>Cultivating specialized flora made specifically for consumption
>Creating flesh and blood animals literally from scratch
>Full access to uncontaminated groundwater

These things alone mean the Institute is lightyears ahead of any of the other factions when it comes to having a chance of restoring the world to what it once was.
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>>317876262
Blade the Sprinting Man
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>>317876331
the building and tower in the middle are there when you liberate the area. The walls I added are part of the settlements expanded mod. It just adds planters doors and walls really
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Railroad end is the best because

>Synths that desire freedom are freed and can live their own peaceful lives
>Institute is destroyed, meaning no more synths get made
>Warmongering BoS is gone ensuring the synths, their sympathizers, and the rest of the Commonwealth won't be subjugated by them like the Capital Wasteland was
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>>317876516
No, that anon has confirmed he's using a building overhaul mod
>>317876547
>literally cannot do any of that and have it actually matter
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>>317876516
Oh, I know that place. Definitely mods, then. Maybe console command to remove the random junk models too.
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>>317876607
Winterized/(polarized? is that the second tier of energy resistance) suit for solo institute killing spree
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>>317876787
>you cant so any of that because I havent even tried it

good one anon
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>>317876747
>Capital Wasteland
>subjugated by the Lawful Stupid self-flagellating 'save the local park' Lyons BoS
What
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>>317876872
>can't be any of that because Minutemen don't maintain their weapons and settlers are literally invincible and don't do anything
FTFY
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>>317876747
>Institute is destroyed, meaning you blew up a almost all of the world's remaining intelligent and educated people because you were too impatient to free synths one at a time
fixed


You're also missing the ethical dilemma of destroying the only facility that can produce more synths. They say synths are equal to humans, and then completely destroy their only means of reproduction? And nobody sees a problem with that?
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>>317877002
>Capitol Wasteland
>Existing in cannon
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>>317877160
>cannon
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>>317877160
>things I don't like = non canon
W E W

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A
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>Siding with anyone but the BoS
do you people even Ad Victoriam?
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>>317876663
Meanwhile everyone above ground is fucked. If the brotherhood is bad in that they don't let enough different kinds of people live because of their mandate to purge mutant monstrosities, the institute is worse in that while they pursue their scientific advancement fetish, the only people whose lives are worth a damn are literally their own. At least the Bros portion out a bit of their dumber tech to help people out, and are doing what they can to make sure humans that exist right now survive. The "Greater Good" excuse is bullshit if it ultimately only benefits their tiny little society and stomps on everyone else that has shit they need to run their experiments.
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>>317877101
Settlers are invincible?
But you lose them if they get raided..?
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>>317875430
>Courier in Big MT
I actually forget what happens in that outcome, I remember sparing the doctor's. What happens?
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>>317877271
Ad Victoriam, BROTHER.
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>>317877101
so you admit you didnt try it? I give all the road block people new guns and they still have them a week later.

Maybe you should play the game more instead of thinking you know everything already
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>>317877245
Well if we're talking about aliens I agree with treating anyone who thinks they're canon like braindead motherfuckers.
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>>317876607
Energy-resistant stuff like prism, EMP, or winterized is good for any ending in which you storm the Institute.

>>317877002
No, by Maxson's BoS. They stripped Rivet City of its reactor to get the Prydwen working. It's not hard to imagine what life was like with them hovering above.

>>317877143
>Institute
>intelligent and educated

They were pretty stupid to be pretty honest. No one recognized they were making sentient beings, and they argued among themselves a lot as well. There was no way it wasn't gonna end badly.

And destroying the Institute was fine because synths were being made-to-order to be enslaved and trapped forever. I think anyone would agree that synths SHOULDN'T exist, but that doesn't mean the ones that do should be terminated a la BoS. They should just stop being made, which the Institute's destruction accomplishes.
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>>317877305
If you Fail a 'Defend' mission, Settlers just disappear off the map. Poof. They can't actually die unless you kill them.
And Settlers do literally nothing. Settlement building has no purpose other than exploiting it for caps
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>>317877210
It appears I'm retarded.
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>>317877305
they arent invincible at all. They die if you cant shoot straight. That anon is just shitposting
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>>317877271
Danse was a true Bro, and so was I. That's why I shot him when he asked for it. No regrets.
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>>317876853
I tried doing that.

I used up the last of my aluminum and adhesive to give my heavy weapons and x-01 suit full mods, including prismatic paint job for maximum energy resistance. Then I fast travelled into the institute to commence the killing spree and the quest bugged out. No NPCs were there so I couldn't talk to the NPC to advance the quest. The elevators were locked down so I couldn't go to the relay to advance the quest.

The solution to this bug was to not use power armor. Somehow fast travelling into the institute while in power armor was what caused the bug, so I just had to go in and do the whole thing on foot.

Thanks Todd.
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>>317877373
If you got Good Karma you are basically calling the shots and you bring in their technological marvels into the Mojave little by little to help people.
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>>317877245
Washington DC was completely destroyed in the war
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>>317877287
The Institute does not wish harm upon the people of the Commonwealth, but neither can they afford to divert resources into helping them at the time.

Some must suffer so that eventually the entire species can flourish.
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>>317877413
>I give all the road block people new guns and they still have them a week later.
And they have done nothing with them.
And if you don't show up to defend them they will disappear and you will fail the quest
And they will still be harassed by Raiders on the other side of the map 10x a day
Great mechanic bro!!!
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>>317877474
Rivet City was a shithole, the people were dying of Rustlung
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>Railroad = SJW c.ucks
>Institute = autistic children
>Minutemen = boring true neutral faggots
>BoS = True alpha males
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>>317877578
Damn. Which quest? I did one DIY killing spree before I raided it with the Brotherhood in pull powow armour, and the final Bro raid with it on too.
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>>317877645
>roadblock

learn to read splurglord.
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>>317877750
Would miller be a Knight do you think? I feel like he'd be down to clown as an institute admin
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>>317877750
>Not siding with Cipher
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>>317877846
The Railroad finale. I also had another issue with power armor in which entering Virgil's cave in power armor made everything hostile. Going in on foot was fine.
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>>317877902
Miller sent Raiden to kill the body snatchers in Ground Zeroes.
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>>317877902
Kaz "dont bring a synth to the blimp" Miller
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>>317877618
But what was the Institute actually doing to help mankind, aside from making synths, which accomplished pretty much nothing?

They had hydroponics and shit like that but I never heard any plans to terraform of the surface GECK-style or anything like that. Combine that with nasty stuff like FEV research and you really have to wonder what they were actually trying to do.

>>317877902
He'd be part of the Institute for sure.

In the Chemical Burger division.
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>>317877618
>Design army of killbots
>Waste hundreds of these killbots fetching trinkets for experiments
>Have so many killbots that you lose track of some and can still afford to build more killbots to go and hunt other ones down

Sure they can't anon.
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>>317876934
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Is BoS the /pol/ side?

Felt good wiping out degenerates
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>>317876375
what I don't like is how the brotherhood don't take over some of the technology of the institute for their own means. you can probably have synths that aren't sentient and are just your robot slaves, really good soldiers and workers and guards. but I guess the brotherhood would rather nuke everything to "keep the tech away" then literally take it themselves
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>>317877271
Ad Victoriam

>>317877428
This anon gets it.
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>>317877750
this guy gets it.
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>>317875773
>Build fort kickass
>Defenses along the walls
>It gets attacked by ghouls
>Fast travel
>All the ghouls apparently spawned in the middle of the fort and start attacking people
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Is this Battle for Bunkerhill an Institute quest only?
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>>317878346
Yeah when something starts pushing a series in a completely dumb direction it's time to put your foot down, heck the devs of Twisted Metal don't consider 3 n' 4 part of the series.
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>>317878429
personally I never seen this. Maybe youre right maybe youre shitposting. Judging by your post history ITT I cant take you seriously though
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>>317878464
TECHNICALLY yes, but you do it no matter what. Siding with the BoS or the Railroad makes you do a few of the Institute quests as a way of being a double-agent, and that quest is one of them.

The quest itself is also fucked beyond belief, you can stick around shooting everyone and no one aggros. Got tons of XP from that one.
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>>317878464
I think so. It's up to you what you do with the synths once you get in there, and who you inform of the plan beforehand. Each faction tells you what to do once you get inside.
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>>317878341
Thinking that you can take technological abomination and justify it in the right hands is what lead to the FEV and the Brotherhood forming in the first place
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>>317878570
>fixed walls
how
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>>317878654
androids aren't a technological abomination, sentient androids built for the purpose of replacing society definitely are. humanity was already developing tons of robots before the war, and those robots were not the cause of it.
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>>317878628
Nah. If you shoot any of the NPCs that count as part of the town (I.e, the traders, or any of the railroad guards that were already there (fucking indistinguishable from the new ones that rock up for the fight) then bunker hill aggros
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>>317871481
http://youtu.be/G8akM5pAlNg
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I sided with the institute on accident. In no way did I think that the story would end. I thought the son was just tricking me into being a courser only for me to inevitably realize he was using me and then take down the institute, then suddenly im killing all the other factions so I can no longer play them and the game ends. Worst fuckin ending, I had no idea i was nearing the end, no build up, nothing. I thought I was barely getting into the good part of the story where i will finally kill the institute and i fuckin saved them
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So say I turn down the offer to join the BOS-- is there a good time to go back & join up? Some encounter that could plausibly sway a fence-sitter?
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>>317878764
That's not how the Brotherhood sees it
The same logic was being applied to Supermutants in 1 and the Enclave plan in 2.
From their perspective, it's better to go with a 0 tolerance policy
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>>317878764
The brotherhood love robots, they have liberty prime and will get you to steal PAM from the railroad. They nuke the institute cause none of it is pre-war tech and messing with it is against their creedo
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>>317878879
You'll know when the Prydwen arrives
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>>317878879
probably after you deal with kellogg
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>>317878074
You must understand that the Institute views themselves as the last remaining hope for mankind. As long as they survive, there is hope for the future. Little else matters, including those on the surface.

Also, the end goal of the Institute is to expand to the surface once they have the means to. Shaun pretty explicitly states this.

>>317878139
Synths are not killbots, they are recon units meant to survey the surface world and interact with its populace. Every single synth that has taken a life without the Institute's blessing is a rogue element.

Furthermore, the capacity to create synths does not correlate to capacity to expand to the surface and provide food, water and power to a much larger society.
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>>317870752
why is Bethesda so shit?
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>the Railroad
hahahha I destroy them on sight
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>>317878754
>structures
>wood
>floor
>shack foundation
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>liking BoS
NO DIGNITY
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>>317879067
>Synths are not killbots, they are recon units
Until they go rampant and begin slaughtering entire towns for spare parts, or are under orders to assassinate/kidnap certain people, both of which have happened
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>>317879114
why do you have your flash light on in the middle of the afternoon?
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>>317879093
what is this picture suppose to mean?

the GECK was just a ruse to get people to agree to them making vaults. The vaults are really for social experiments.

Welcome to the fallout series I guess
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>>317878879
>i'll try spinning, that's a good trick
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>>317877474
america was founded on slaves. might as well make better slaves to build a better america
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>>317879093

It's retarded but 40 =/= all of Capital Wasteland
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>>317879239
because I had just fast traveled to take the picture
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>>317879298
i fucking hate /tv/
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>>317879067
>once they have the means to
That might take a while what with their getting distracted, dicking around making gorillas and super mutants out of abductees

>Furthermore, the capacity to create synths does not correlate to capacity...
Really? Cause the minutemen and the brotherhood seem to have an O.K time using their military element to secure resources and farmland for existing inhabitants.

There's no way around the fact that they're self-interested cunts. Again, if the brotherhood's zero ideological wiggle room makes for some bad where they could do a bit more good, the Institutes' own dogma about the future is denying a LOT of good they could be doing.
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Using non-memes what faction gives out the best quests? BoS/Institute/Railroad
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>>317878879
>they think youre already going down
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I honestly think the Institute is not a bad addition to Fallout as a more or less full-fledged faction. Also like the way it uses mobility and teleporting deathbots instead of heavy weaponry like BoS or Enclave.
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>>317879278
The picture is comparing FO3/4 water. In FO3 all the water is magically radiated and etc. that only the most brilliant scientists in the world can fix.

Meanwhile in Boston... this nigger just pops out of a vault and starts making bank on a water filter made out of rubber bands and ash trays.
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>>317879379
What settlement is that?
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>>317879161
>Been playing an Assault Trooper
>Jetting around places, smacking shit with sledge
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>>317879229
Like all machines, synths have the potential to go haywire. That is regrettable, of course, and Shaun takes the stopping and reclaiming of such synths very seriously.
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>>317879606
I think that's Jamaican or whatever it's called, just a shot in the dark.
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>>317879603
FO3 water being irradiated to the point that only a GECK can fix it is so scientifically fucking wrong it hurtsy head.
You can cleanse radiation from water by sifting it through fucking dirt
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>>317879606
that one was Jamaica plains

this one is warwick something by the atom cats
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>>317870752
>Institute
>morally correct

They're supposed to be the bad guys, you tard.
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>>317874235
He's a bleeding heart liberal so yes.
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>>317879553
BOS if you like purging the wasteland of ghouls and mutants
Institute if you like taking tech and killing rogue robotos
Railroad if you like spy shit.
Minutemen if you want to help people and set up a billion pointless settlements along the way.
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>>317874628
They're replacing people with synths, nigger. What better way to save humanity than to erase humanity.
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>>317879732
Heck capture and forced feed someone dirty water filter it into piss water
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Post yfw you realized plugging in a kbm lets you type console commands in PS4
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I want robots to live free and have free will. Be it to fuck or fuck people.

Railroad is a fucking crackhead junky guild that's a joke of a faction and the Brotherhood are some stupid ass metal heads that hate robots and super mutants for whatever reason.
Why cant I just tell them to fuck off and run the institute myself so they keep making robots to help people and quit being the post-apocalyptic jews.
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I sided with the institute because they were the only ones not living in trash piles
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>>317879687
Jamaica Plains
>>317879379
Disgusting. Fill in that house properly and make a cozy sleeping place for your settlers.
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Is it ever explained WHY the institute is (ineptly) covertly swapping out people with synths? Seems fucking pointless and contrived to me.
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>>317874565
>mfw seeing unmodded shots of Fallout 3 and NV after playing Fallout 4 for almost 60 hours
Absolutely disgusting, okay Todd, you did improve the graphics.
Some shit is still disgusting in the game itself, but they are better.
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>>317879902
>Prydwen is a trash pile
Fookin fite me m8
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>>317871251

> Synth are slaves.
> Railroad are abolitionists.

> Siding with abolitionists ever.
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>>317879907
yeah I started that one this morning. Just filled in the wall and powered some lights then I had lunch and started posting ITT. Better get back to it
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>>317879940
"muh experiments" basically. no real reason or endgame just like the other factions
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>>317879553
BoS gives you a happy happy joy joy theme park ride with Liberty Prime. The Institute mission was tougher and longer IMO, knights in power armour > assaultbots and synths. And the only one of those tripod bots with miniguns is hostile towards both factions iirc.
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Why can't I just tell all the factions to fuck off and go fuck the mysterious stranger
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Bethesda is not good at writing.
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>>317880014
>Being an edgy 'Nothing wrong with slavery' kid
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>>317870752
>He's literally only your son because of DNA, you knew him for less than a year.
>He uses you as a tool and/or experiment from the get go
>Fucks over his own workers to put you in charge
>Does fuck all to help the surface alongside making it worse while claiming they're the what is best for the Commonwealth
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>>317879940
Because Blade Runner

>>317880072
>>317880101
Question answered
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>>317880036
Favorite location? Done that island yet?
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>>317879995
one bullet and its Hindenburged
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Why does the female protagonist instantly know how to shoot weapons, repair power armor and modify armor and weapons when prior to entering the vault she was a lawyer?

Why couldn't the Minutemen get the core to power the Power Armor when it was in their settlement and only knocked behind a novice level chain that any idiot could have opened? 95% of players will have gotten it before they even clear the building.

Why does almost everything still look like a pile of shit even though all the destruction happened 200 years ago?
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>>317879940
To give an actual reason for people in game to not like them.
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>>317880204
nah not yet. I want to build up on the bridge at finch farm but I already started there so I got to figure a way to make it look decent and not just a huge fucking staircase.

A clip mod came out today so Ill start the island once I finished JP and FF
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>>317880367
Link?
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>>317879548
It's not about securing some farmland for the Institute. If they wanted, they could come out guns blazing right now and probably take over the whole Commonwealth.

The problem they are attempting to solve is how to make the surface just as hospitable to human life as their underground facilities. Until they figure that out, they'll stay underground.

There's no denying that they are emotionally detached from the people on the surface, but they do genuinely have the interest of the species in mind. They just have to make some sacrifices to make it happen, and regrettably the people on the surface are those sacrifices.
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>>317880294
Cause you know. Reasons.
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>>317870752
No, the minutemen are.
>>317873895
He reminds me of a mixture between Clooney and Buzz Lightyear.
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>>317880294
I just want a fucking reason that the pain on some things is still SO vibrant. I get that browntown would be awful to look at all the time, but jesus give me a terminal entry about super duper paint or something. One of the side quests is you LITERALLY refreshing fading paint in diamond city. AHH
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>>317879548
The gorillas are a foray into making synthetic animals aka food from scratch and the FEV project was canned.
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>>317875915
not good ammo

trying to find .44s were a pain
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>>317873275
The leader was literally an sjw feminist piece of shit. Hate them so much. What a waste of disc data
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>>317880493
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2683/?

I just installed it. About to test it out
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>obsidian creates four possible factions (if you count yes man as a faction) with their own endings
>each faction is just shades of grey and all have a plausible reason for why someone would ally with them
>people still discussing the factions and endings years after release

>bethesda: "hey, let's give that a shot for our game!"
>institute is on par with caesar's legion for what it's doing to the wasteland, except without a charismatic figurehead
>BoS are completely soulless, came to Boston to shoot muties and synths because reasons
>railroad are spineless whiny cunts with a flawed ideology and no real long term plans for the wasteland
>minutemen are literally who
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>>317880056
It's real hard for me to pick a side when everyone is acting like an irrational fucking retard.

>BoS
>We're just going to pretend like we aren't the technology hoarding bullshit artitsts from previous installments
>Complete irrational hate towards any synth and super-mutant, even if truces would be best for them
>Elitist pricks who will broker no deal with the citizens of the commonwealth. "Our way or no way"

>Institute
>"We r boogeymen" for no actual fucking reason.
>Elitist pricks who will broker no deal with the citizens of the commonwealth. "Our way or no way"

>The Railroad
>"Synths are gud" despite no real evidence to support this claim
>I fucking got into the institute in a week, how are you fuckers so useless holy shit
>FIRST question is "Are you willing to lay down your life for a synth?" and if you answer "not in all situations, no" they tell you to fuck off. Bitch, some times you gotta cut your losses and not act retarded.
>Elitists pricks who will broker no deal with the citizens of the commonwealth. "Our way or no way".

>The Minutemen
>Actually trying to be of some use
>Actually fucking pointless

Hell, even the fucking protag acts retarded and has no rational reaction to anything. Makes it hard to be invested.

>>317880196
I don't get that reference
>>317880321
Indeed, it would seem to me that the Institute is best served by not doing that.
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>>317880501
>Regrettably
>Species > People
>No helping till we can come up and make it 100% perfect for both people still on the surface
>>317880583
Niggers on the surface already make food from scratch. It's called farming. They can work on getting the perfect juicy steak later can't they?

Shitters
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>>317878786
Well, at the very least you can shoot as many synths and Brotherhood faggots as you want.
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>>317880718
Holy fuck, thanks anon
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Who /minutemen/ here?
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