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So how many tries did it take you to beat Rape Horse?
I'm on NG++ and struggling to get him down to his second phase
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Around 40 on ng+
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The fact that you have to beat the first form every time makes it so much harder to learn the second form

Who at from thought this was a good idea?
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>>317857289
everyone. From will never ever provide you with checkpoints and other easy ways out.
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>>317856170
Just wait till you meet Orphan and Laurence.
Orphan is FROMs hardest boss.
Only thing harder is probably soloing double kitty in das2 dlc
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>>317856170
I still can't beat Orphan on first playthrough
been stuck there for 5 hours
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>>317856170
about 10
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This dlc is basically you with an even stronger magnet than DS2 if that's possible vs spinning enemies that will almost always hit you.

Those well giants are the absolute worst. I just can't beat them. I had much less trouble with maria than them. Ng plus 3 or whatever doesn't help but still, I've never had so much trouble with a non boss enemy. They make BP skeletons look like pushovers.

Also those axe guys are terrible for magnet spinning too but at least you can run by them.
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>>317858798
>>317858394

Basically these. I'm getting raped by Orphan. Motherfucker grows wings and turns into a fucking superhero.
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i couldn't get past the orphan of kos on my ng+ 4 or 5 run.

everything being able to kill you in 2 or 3 hits is just so fucking heard to fight.

i am exited for my normal new game character i'm leveling now.
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>>317859194
Also why can Laurence one shot me with 50 vit and the best armor in the game is another question. Not even on the exploding fist punch either. It was one of his quickest attacks while I had stamina.
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Any protips for Laurence?
Once he goes into his second phase I have a super hard time landing many hits on him.
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>>317859305
It's not wings
He goes super Saiyan and his energy makes his cape flail a lot
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>>317859693
stay in front and hug his legs, his sword attacks pass over you
when he powers up his sword, just run behind him
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>>317859875
Laurence, not Ludwig.
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>>317859997
Running R2 head, quick dodge and run away
it'll take a while, but you can get through it
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Lost count. Somewhere over 70 tries and I still can't beat him. Been helping players beat Vicar Amelia to gain easy blood echoes and insight.
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someone please give tips on Orphan, his second phase is ridiculous
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>>317860620

Don't get greedy, you can still parry his attacks in phase 2.
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>>317860549
what level are you?
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>>317856170
I just beat him on ng with level 49 25/25/21 vit/skill/bt and the two npc summons

I got tired of his second form bullshit. The first form is easy enough to solo.

Don't lock on and always roll under or to the left of him and dps. He screams right before he's about to attack
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>>317858394

i think hardest boss in the dlc is laurence, killed orphan on 2nd try and ludwig on 3rd, but laurence took me at least 8 or so
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>>317860740

112
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>>317860703
parry with gun?
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>>317860974
are you on ng+?
because ng+ ludwig is much more difficult than ng
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>yet another otherwise decent boss ruined by a retarded charge attack
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>>317861086

Parry/riposte/visceral attack Whatever mane
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I beat Ludwig first try but got my shit wrecked like 25 times by Laurence.
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>>317856170
NG+++, But I'm very over leveled Bl 200
and have 3 22% damage boosters on my sword.

5 times for first stage
Beat second stage on my first try with no blood vials left and no bullets, the second stage was a really tense and cool fight.
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>>317861323
I mean can you parry with a gun shot, or do you have to get a backstab? I've only ever seen a backstab visceral done on him
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>>317861510

Ah sorry, yes the gun works.
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Anyone watching manvsgame? He's been stuck on fire Cleric beast for more than 24 hours straight
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>>317856170
Alright need some help
I just go the Whirligig Cutter and it's my new favorite weapon but I want to try other new weapons from the DLC

my stats:
vital-40
endurance-30
strength-50
skill-32
bloodtinge-14
arcane-16

I want to build around the amydgala arm, the spiky club that causes frenzy

what should I start leveling up next skill, arcane, bloodtinge?
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>>317858394
I've never played Bloodborne, but Orphan seemed a bit tougher than double kitty from the videos. And I beat that boss, so not really sure it could be harder.
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NG++++

Hunters Axe tore him a new asshole.
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>>317856170
I just watched Peeve beat Ludwig in NG+7 with mediocre dps, but if he can do it you probably can too.
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Ludwig took me the most tries out of the DLC bosses, I died to him probably 7 times and to Laurence twice, the rest I managed to beat in one try.
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>>317856170
4 tries. First 3 times i used Henriett, 4th time I went to tried to run it solo and found out you can summon Vatlr. My cap't helped me topple rape horse. For the League!
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>>317862985
Valtr is a fucking beast.

He saved my fucking bacon in that fight.
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>>317862985
>found out you can summon Vatlr.
from where?
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>Yfw Moonlight Greatsword Reveal
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>>317856170
I'm on NG++ too. Ican get him to 5%~ but I can never dodge that fucking sword cannon, it always kills me. From full health too, it's some shit.
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>>317863190
unfortunately for me it was ruined by a random anon
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Took me several hours. Must have been close to 30 tries.
Lady Maria was a bit easier, but still really fun.
Only just got up to the fishing village.
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>use up all 20 vials on Fire Cleric Beast
>use last remaining bullets to little him down to almost nothing
>bait fire spit attack
>run in for quick 2 hit kill
>he slams me down after first hit so I died

fuck that, fuck me, fuck all of it. Going through this the first time on NG+6 was a mistake.
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>>317863190
Turned all my rage into pure hype.
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>>317862328
bump for advice
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>>317861561
He's so fucking fast how do you parry him
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>>317858394
Is double kitty harder than punching the guardians to death in das2 while in the champions covenant?
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Why is nobody talking about the Church Pick?
Is it bad?
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>>317864821
How are the new weapons in general? For PvP?
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>>317864821
Anything that isn't Whirligig Saw is bad.
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Tried like 20 times on NG+ but was barely getting anywhere and my attacks were just tickling him because I had a shit build. Realized that even if I did beat him the following bosses would just be plain not fun and would take longer so I re-loaded by end game save to do a non NG+ run.

Still took like 5-6 ties. Like others have said his first form is kind of bullshit and the tracking on some of his attacks are insane. First time I got him to his second form I almost beat him but one of the energy waves knocked me into a corner and I couldn't dodge the second one and died.
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>>317864672

Practice I guess, you'll get used to it. I used the standard pistol you get at the start of the game and it wasn't too bad, i'm not sure if different guns have different timings since I never really used more.
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>>317856170
Beat it first try on NG+, I was probably around level 130. Using +10 Hunter's Axe
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>>317863546
Where is Fire Cleric? Do I go back to the cathedral where he was sleeping, or does he appear later on?
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>>317864821

I think it's a fantastic weapon, just a bit underrated.
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>>317864821
It's probably good enough, just very unimaginative compared to EXPLODING HAMMER and PIZZA CUTTER.
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>>317865140

You need to get a key item and go back to him.
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>the look on his face during the phse cutscene

Fucking From giving me emotions about beastly abominations.
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>>317857845

Bed of Chaos
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What BL for dlc?
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>>317857845

They do it all the time with shortcuts and shit.
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Any changes in the DLC area when the moon phase changes? Or is it immune because Nightmare?
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>>317864821
Church spike is my jam

It's the weapon I didn't know I was waiting for
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I wound up having to summon Valtr. I just couldn't learn how to fight his second form because it was such a slog to get through the first.

>>317865549
I went in at 30 with a +5 weapon and had a lot of trouble in the first area. Try 40, maybe, with a decently upgraded weapon.
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>>317856170
I beat his first stage on my very first try at bl ~63 NG. total tries was probably around 20-25, really not sure. I always seem to do so well on the very first try but then I just get frustrated and fuck it up.
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>>317863190
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i fucking beat him with someone but i can't beat it by myself :(
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>>317856170
>Rape Horse
FUCK! I knew Ludwig looked like someone I had seen.
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>>317864761
Yes, because of that fucking god awful challenge area before the double kitties
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>>317866737
He looks much worse, honestly. Ludwig is genuinely one of the most horrifying creations I've ever seen in video games. Everything about him is just corrupted and fucked up beyond repair
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>>317860860
>you will never fuck mother kos's slimy eldritch lips
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What stat levels do you guys recommend for ng+
I keep getting slaughtered by rape horse in his 2nd form
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>>317856170
beat him on NG+

the second phase was so, so much easier than the first
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>oh, he's charging his blade
>but not in a down stabby way
>it'll probably be some super long slash
>definitely
>mfw he floods everything in front of him with moonlight rape
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>>317856170
I know this is kind of off topic but is anyone else inherently freaked out by humanoids with elongated faces?
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>>317867719

I'm level 90 with 40 Vit, 30 str, and 27 skl with memeblade+10 and 15 end

I can't even get to the second lantern. Pretty sure this whole area is just a gitgud check.
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Day 2 still stuck on orphan
Fuck this shit desu
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Calling it now, Church Pick is the best weapon hands down.

It isn't glowy and flamey and spiky so everyones overlooking it, but it has by far the best moveset.

It's basically swag sword but heavier and turns into a fast black knight halberd. It's transforms are insanely fucking fast. It's almost a straight upgrade to the hunters axe in every way.

Too bad it's a skill weapon.
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>>317869258

>not beast claw with beast's embrace emblem

BEAST MODE
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Took me about 15 tries. He's definitely the hardest boss in the dlc. I died to Orphan less than Ludwig.
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>>317869258
I'm gonna try it in NG+

Rykulo was kinda fun but it was essentially a slower blades of mercy.
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>>317869258
Actually, the Church Pick's 2 handed mode is near exactly like the Great Scythe from Dark Souls, but heavier.

It's indeed the GOAT new skill weapon.
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>>317869258
>>317870405

>tfw want to start a new SKL build
>can't sprint to the pick after Amelia
>I have to beat Lewdwig first
>then I have to go through the Research Hall until I find the key
>then I have to kill the hunter that drops the Pick

I don't know if I'm ready to suffer yet.
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>>317869258
Looks boring as fuck therefore it's shit

>>317869581
Slower wind up on the first R1 completely ruined that for me

It's actually better without the rune
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DARKSIDE PHIL JUST RAGE QUIT LUDWIG
HE WASN'T ABLE TO BEAT HIM FOR THREE HOURS AND IS CURRENTLY RAGING AHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-5LqnJw2ao
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>>317869026
It took me about 2 hours worth of solid attempts but that fucker is down.
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>>317871096
You could be playing video games.
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>>317857289
How much of a turbo casual do you have to be to even ask that? Bosses with multiple stages have been around since forever, just because most games don't even have bosses nowadays, doesn't mean that somewhat complex bosses shouldn't exist.
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>>317871372
so could you

but m8 i just literally played 5 hours of bb need a break. just got this link from /bbg/
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Maybe around fifty? In the end I summoned someone. Couldn't take it any more.
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Laurence is really throwing me off with his tracking. He'll be facing a summon while I'll be at his back hitting him. Then naturally while swinging at a summon he spins all the way around to 2 shot me.

I just want the beast emblem but this Cleric Beast rip off is just bullshit. I know Cleric Beast didn't have this cheap of tracking.
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which crow in the research hall drops the +10% guidance rune? afaik there's a group of three near a chest, two on a ledge and one that drops down from a rafter (leading to the two on the ledge)

none of these have dropped the rune for me. are there more crows I'm unaware of?
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Dis DLC music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdt5XNvPkc
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>>317856170
>Ludwig gets a cutscene to protect him during the phase change
>All so he could change his name
>Every other boss that does a phase change fucking lets you hit them in the middle of it, sometimes letting you take them down to 1/4 of hp

Why did From decide this was a good idea? Potentially nice moments in fights are ruined like this. I think only Amygdala evades it, and only because the arms retract.
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>>317871784
I got the 20% from a crow all on his lonesome at the top of the rafters who jumps down
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>finally beat this bullshit boss after 25 tries

>only 40k souls

what a spit in the face
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>>317863190
>my true mentor
>my guiding moonlight
>that fucking music kicks in
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>>317871857
Ikr?

I came.

I fucking loved the Maria boss fight. It wasn't particularly hard but fuck me it was fun.
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>>317872650
I love how they coded him to do his beam sweep on the first big music swell.

My dick got hard.
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>>317871943
Because the Moonlight Greatsword is a pretty big fucking deal.

It's From's apology for not including the Moonlight Greatsword in the main game. So they made it part of a boss, AND made it a cutscene reveal

I only wish the cutscene wouldn't replay past the first time you see it. (although you can skip it anyway so whatever)
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>>317871857
How does a small as fuck and fairly niche Japanese game studio get the most incredible music in all of video games? Please explain this shit. Best voice acting, too.
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What level and equipment are you using when you fight Ludwig? I beat him on my first try, it wasn't too hard, had my heart beating like a mother fucker though.

Is lvl 105 and a +10 Burial Blade overkill on him or something?
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Did patch 1.07 remove the Alfred summon for BSB? I don't see it there anymore
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>>317873118
I wasn't even 105 when I finished the DLC.
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>>317872929
>It's From's apology for not including the Moonlight Greatsword in the main game. So they made it part of a boss, AND made it a cutscene reveal
And it was awesome. Fuck.

Serious hype, especially when the music kicked up.

One really fucking cool thing From did was surprise us with it. They had shown the Ludwig boss fight early in the playable DLC at the reveal for PlayStation Experience etc but they only showed Ludwig's first phase. People killed Ludwig and he never underwent the transformation. So guys who had seen the DLC gameplay reveal had no fucking idea about phase 2, and then it happened and it blew us all the fuck away.
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>>317873118
i fought him at bl63 ish
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>>317872929
I don't meant that. I meant other bosses, even if not getting cutscenes, should be invincible for like 2-3 seconds while they transform. I know there are many ways to cheese some bosses, but it's kinda disappointing and I really hope DS3 form changes are of the shorter types like short roars.

Also, midboss cutscenes always repeat. Like O&S.
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>>317873317
Possibly moved places similar to Gascoigne for Cleric Beast
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On NG++++ at level 110.
Every boss pretty much two-hits me. Got help for Ludwig and did it in two or three attempts, living failures was a fucking nightmare because of all of the shit they gangbang you with, and now I'm stuck on the fucking edgelord Maria.

The new areas are incredible but I'm really not enjoying this whole "let's make the boss gangbang you with AoEs" shit but it's too much work to start a new character or anything. Might just sell the game and wait for DS3.
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>>317873317
Did you ever make friends with him? I saw his sign at the usual spot the other day, but I remember he would never show up if you didn't talk to him first.
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>>317856170
one, since I used summons it was fairly easy.

kind of disappointed in the DLC in a lot of places. there are a ton of enemies and bosses with wide-hitbox AOE attacks AND insanely fast distance closers, which means you can only dodge them using iframes. this is quite bullshit design imo. fuck fishermans fuck in particular
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Do people seriously have trouble with this boss?

I beat him on my first try on my friend's PC while he was doing a soul level 1 run and I had never played any Souls games before.
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>all these people saying they beat Ludwig in under 5 tries, and some on their first

I've played all the souls games. I've beat every boss in every game without help. I killed Smough before Orenstein because dat lightning spear. And yet I still can't get past Ludwig after my 15th try.

Maybe it is I who is the scrub.
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>>317865549
50-60 with +7 weapon or higher.

I first went in at level 35 and got my shit kicked in, farmed some stuff and got to level 49 and still getting my shit kicked in, just not nearly as much
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>>317873612
>selling a game ever
>selling a game that you like and might want to replay in 5 years
>selling a game after its been out for most of a year

If you sell a game you sell it in the first two weeks. Otherwise you'll get a fraction of what its worth.
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>>317860860
>those lips
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>>317872940

>Best voice acting, too.

I agree. I love how all the actors have really cool accents and stuff. It's very pleasant.
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>>317873862
I beat him on my first try using the cane at bl 4

I can't believe how suck you fags are
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>>317863190
>Aah, you were at my side all along...
>My true mentor...
>My guiding moonlight...
I didn't have the heart to tell him what his hunters did in his absence.
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>>317873718
>he didn't get cheesed by the charge the first time
>he didn't miss-time the super long jump attack and get his whole health bar stolen from him
>he didn't think that the very long sword charge attack into frontal blast was just a bigger AOE
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>>317858394
what the fuck is double kitty.... i should probably finish the DLC
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>>317856170
Laurence is so much harder, took me like 2 hours to beat him. Ludwig was like 10 minutes
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>>317864821
It's a great DEX weapon, it's just not as balls-to-the-wall as some of the other weapons in the DLC so it's rarely mentioned.

There are no bad weapons.

>>317866951
>the way his human face looks stretched on the horse's
>his almost insect like leg movements
>that fucking 2nd head
Fromsoft needs to lay off the nightmare fuel a bit.
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>>317873718
The minimum level in Bloodborne in 4.
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>>317874185
Yeah they actually sound legit, unlike the fake Hollywood tier shit you get in typical Western AAA titles.
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>>317871096
Based Ludwig still holding the line.

>>317869258
I'd probably give best moveset to the Beasthunter Saif desu
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>>317874506
>Jarl Balgruff, aka "I'm a voice actor trying to sound like ye olde nord"
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>>317872940
>How does a small as fuck and fairly niche
>Studio Japan
That's how.

>>317873612
>On NG++++ at level 110
You have nobody to blame but yourself.
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>>317874713
>>Studio Japan
nice meme. From's games all have great music even when SCE isnt involved
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>>317874613
>Saif
>see it in trailer, vow never to use it since it looks like a side-grade for the saw cleaver
>try it out
>stupid fast when transformed, baller swipes when not
>mfw new +10 weapon
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>>317872940
Well this is definitely the stupidest post in the thread.
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>>317862328

increase Arcane and get the moonlight sword.
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>>317862375

>I've never played, but I beat that boss
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>tfw like 40th try and I have only gotten to the second phase four times on NG

I'm trying to git gud but it's not working
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>mfw Amygdalan Arm
What in the actual fuck am I holding right now?
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>>317875147
Have you tried summoning? There's 2 NPCs you can get for that fight. Also pizza cutter L2 absolutely destroys him.
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>>317856170
Why the FUCK isn't US getting a physical GOTY version?

Fuck Sony.
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>>317875109
I meant I beat double kitty solo.
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>>317875015
Brilliant counterargument.
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Oh Goddamnit, if you come back to his severed head later on and it's dead, is it impossible to get the Moonlight Sword for the rest of the playthrough if he didn't give it to you yet? I remember telling him I didn't hear the bell, left him and did the rest of the DLC and now the only weapon I don't have is this goddamn sword. I wanted to kill it, but with how vague these games usually are, I assumed that later on I'd find a weird item that would make him talk more later or something to that degree, so I left him.

Please don't tell me I fucked up because I didn't just blindly kill everything.
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NG++ here, tried 20 times and saw his second form only three times. He's the fucking defiled Watchdog with even more moves. Fuck this dogshit.
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>>317863546
I beat it! I beat it! I beat Laurence!

Get fucked Laurence. Now why did they turn a important character of the past into a fire reskin, I don't know. Still, its final form is pretty neat.
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Retarded question, but how do I get back to the very beginning area of the DLC where you spawn? The closest lantern the Hunter's Dream brings you to is the one right before the Ludwig fight. Do I have to walk all the way back?
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Are there any good skill weapons? My character has only 12 strength and it seems like none of the weapons in this DLC are skill
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>>317875306
Thing is, I've beat every other boss in the series solo, I really didn't want to give it up now. At the rate things are going though I'm considering it, if only to get a better look at the second phase.
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>>317875732
>Not putting the boss you allready just tried to kill out of it's misery

>Actually leaving it's head there alone by itself, knowing he was dying anyway

Your fault. He gives you the sword outright if you are wearing church garb if you say yes to him.

He doesn't ask about "the ringing bell". That's another person.

A normal person would've put ludwig out of his misery.
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>>317875982
Church Pick
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>>317875982

>Beasthunter Saif
>Rakuyo
>Church Pick

All of those are SKL-based.
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>>317875965
Did you not light the lantern that was right in front of you in the church when you started the DLC?
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>>317875732
>is it impossible to get the Moonlight Sword for the rest of the playthrough if he didn't give it to you yet?
It should just be laying on top of his corpse.
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>>317875982
Church Pick > Bowblade > Rakuyo

In that order.
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>>317875983
Well either swallow your pride or git gud, that's all I have to say.

If you're having trouble with Ludwig the final boss of the DLC will be a neverending nightmare for you. Hope you like kids.
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>>317875982
Rakuyo, Church Pick, Saif and Bowblade. The DLC is mainly to give STR and ARC users a reason to play the game again.
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>>317876327
Parrying the final boss is pretty easy, you just gotta be ballsy.
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kek dsp gave up the playthrough and couldnt kill the boss.
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>>317875314
wait it isnt? the fuck?
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>>317876652
>e-celeb garbage
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>>317876062
I guess it is my fault for not just blindly saying "yes" to everything every NPC ever asks me, because now that I think about it, I can't remember any other time in this game where picking the first option wasn't the right answer. Should've known. Why do they even give you a choice?

Yes I am buttflustered
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>>317876652
That was fast.
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>>317874340
You know the Sanctuaty Guardian you have to kill in the beginning of the DLC, before you even enter Oolacile?
After you finish the DLC, if you get back there, there's two of them kitties.
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FINALLY! Beat Ebrietas after my tenth try. Anyone who hates the chalice dungeons can eat a dick, thank you kinhunter and bolt gem.
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I swear I'm about to break this goddam fucking game, I'm still stucj at orphan
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I'm thinking about just skipping Laurence and trying finish the dlc. I think I'm close to the end but I really want the beast rune for the last fight.

Why do summons have to be such shit in this game? I gave up trying to solo him like I did the other 3 bosses because his tracking is brutal. But considering I just watched a summon get smashed when Laurence was facing me and he spun completely around I think I'm going to have to solo him too... somehow.
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>>317866737
What the actual fuck is this?
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>>317877145
>he plays one of Miyazaki's games and doesn't know what Beserk is
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>>317877145
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NG++ and he's wrecking me pretty hard. furthest was like 75% health. gonna suck it up and try co op and blood beast pellet and fire paper.
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>>317856170
I have a question but I don't know how to word it

I maxed out my 50 strength now i'm focusing on my 35 skill
my right handed damage is still going up when I upgrade skill
will it also affect my strength weapon too?
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>just running through the Hunter's Nightmare getting stunlocked by EVERYTHING

JUST LET ME GET MY WHIRLIMEME DAMMIT
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>>317877491

If it scales with skill as well, yes.
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>>317877419
Jesus this is disturbing, is this real? Or is this a piss take off something else?
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Can I play this in NG, or does it have to be NG+?
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>>317877617
The first picture is real, the second is a parody.
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>>317877260
I'm aware of beserk, in the same way I'm aware you're autistic
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>>317877260
i love this meem
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>>317877617
No, it's something that actually happens. Berserk has a lot of rape in it before Guts and Co go on their magical boat tour.
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>>317877260
You don't need to play Berserk to appreciate ACFA
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>>317877592
as long as it has a letter even E?

so Ludwigs would do more damage with 50 strength and 50 skill than 50 strength and 30 skill
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>>317877658
NG is fine.
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>>317877849

Yes. That's why there is a letter there.
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>>317877849
Sure. But the extra points would probably be better spent elsewhere.
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>>317877658

You don't want to do this in NG+

I can't even get to the first boss.
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>>317877060
SIXTY ONE DEATHS
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>>317878026

Wow he's pathetic. Only took me 3 to beat Ludwig.
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>>317877939
I need advice, I want to build around some of the new weapons possibly the bow or the spiky club

vital 40
endurance 30
strength 50
skill 35
bloodtinge 14
arcane 16
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I'm the fag whos been wining about orphan this entire thread. I just beat him fellas
Were all gonna make it
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>>317878162
Well bow is skill and bloodtinge, which both of which you are low in.

I think on that build you need to stick to the STR weapons. Moonlight GS will do good damage for you still, Amy's arm, bloodletter, and pizzacutter are all good for you.
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>>317878280

I can't even make it to the second lantern.

About to just give up, but I really don't want to go through all of NG+ just to level up a bit.

40 Vit should be enough dammit.
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>>317878280
what did you do differently to beat it
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>>317856170
>Patiently wear down first phase
>Choke on the easier second
fuckkkk
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>>317878329
moonlight is in arcane right? should I start buffing that

is bloodletter the spiky club you stick in your chest that causes frenzy?
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>>317872817
I love how those slashes of his are coded so that you can side step them like a fucking anime badass.
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>>317873862
Lots of people are summoning allies or using +10 Chalice Gem Weapons on BL 100+ Characters.
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>>317878636
those moments are fucking great, and the best thing is that it was all you.
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>>317878352
I wqs originally using the transformed version of pizza cutter, the thing I changed up was I started using the base staff weapon. Also I started running more towards him during the fight. When he did his lightning bolts o ran all the way to the fog gate l, and it never reached that far. When he does his spit magic and jumps, don't roll away, roll towards him. He spits away from him and you'll always get caught.
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>>317874106
Thanks for the epic tips, Merchant Man

>>317874713
Nothing I can really do at this point, enemies scale to your level to some extent and levels cost around 90,000 echoes for one marginal, marginal difference.
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>>317878823
>When he does his spit magic and jumps, don't roll away, roll towards him. He spits away from him and you'll always get caught.
I remember as a kid trying to beat bosses through trial and error
now I just watch a how to video and ruin everything
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>>317856170
Beat it on my first try in NG+, Laurence kicked my ass in his second form and Orphan was tough as well.
>>317860860
I had more trouble with Laurence as well, took me almost 2 hours because the fucking run back to the boss fight. His second phase is hell.

This was how close I got about 30 minutes into the fight. ;_;
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After I beat orphan, that's the end of the dlc right? Laurence is just an optional boss
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>>317869258
>tfw running a skill build
>tfw I can't bring myself to put down my pimp cane for the pick
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The DLC overall scales really weirdly on NG+ and above. I don't even know how to describe how apeshit Ludwig gets on the slightly higher difficulties.
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>>317879149
Don't. the pick is my main weapon, it was made for me.
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>>317856170
Only tried once with Henriett and didn't even get to second phase.
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I beat maria on my third try, but Laurence is giving me a hell of a time. Not even his second form; his first one. He can just combo me and stun with fire to essentially one hit me.
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2 on ng sl 78, he did seem hard though (those charges olawd)
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>>317877617
Rape and Berserk go together like midgets and bowling.
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>>317879032
You just had a lot of time as a kid, do you could afford to spend days figuring it out
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still downloading this FUCKING PATCH THATS TAKING GOD DAMN AGES WHAT THE FUCK PLAYSTATION
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61, then I gave up
this game is for sweaty permavirgins with more games than friends
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What do I do after orphan?
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>>317879951
i bet you have at least 30 games on your steam account that you've never installed faget
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>>317880048
Kill the nightmare. Then you're done with the DLC. Now just collect the shit you missed and start some invasions/coop.
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>>317879951
WOOOW
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>>317879675
you're right, between job and school I have no patience
when I get home and I have a plan on a part I'm stuck I'm ready to get through it
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>>317879951
you'll be at again tomorrow when you don't have the jitters
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>>317880048
Did you fight laurence? You can also get all the weapons for the gold trophy. You do want to 100% it, right?
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>>317880160
How do I fight Laurence
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>>317880384
Learn how to dodge his attacks and hit him at the right times.
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>>317878351
I entered the DLC on NG with
40 VIT,
10 END,
40STR
10 Bloodtinge,
10 SKL
25 ARC.

Aside from getting ARC up to 40, those were the stats that got me through the whole DLC
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>>317880547
I meant how do I access his fight
After beating orphan I went back and he's still sleeping
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>>317880598

But I'm on NG+
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>>317880713
You need to find his skull.

Think about the elevator up to the Astral clocktower.

Think about maybe what happens if that elevator were to rise if you were not on it.
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>>317880713
The elevator to the research hall. Ride it back down, then send it back up and jump off of it. You'll see the head. After grabbing it, pull that lever to make the elevator come back down and jump on the platform with the head for a hidden weapon
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AFTER 80+ TRIES I FINALLY BEAT THE BASTARD

THANK YOU FOR TANKING, VALTR

BETTER THAN THAT USELESS TRASH HENREITT
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>>317880730
Then you're fucked
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>Add bow to the game
>"Alright at last, the weapon we skill users were waiting for!!"
>It uses up ammo in order to shoot arrows
>Limited to 20 shots that you have to pay for every time

Who was the madman who thought of this?
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>>317880915
>>317880823
Thanks
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>>317881175
You can use blood bullets as well you know
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So. this glitch has happened twice while I've been helping others. I'd be so upset if I didn't get to fight the 2nd form. https://youtu.be/8BMofTI_w7E?t=58s
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>>317880730
Have you done the chalice dungeons? If so, expect boss fights similar to depth 5 / defiled chalice
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>>317881175
>My controller doesn't have a d-pad
>I should be able to sit back and safely snipe the whole game

Just go play something else. You casual fucking baby.
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>>317856170
I'm on NG+4 and didn't really have a hard time on any of the bosses. Was able to beat them within 2 tries, I do have some pretty crazy bloodbgems. 3 +30% damage with the only negatives being increased stamina costs so I was doing 700 per hit with a +10 cleaver. The only boss I had issues with was Laurence, fuck Laurence
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>>317881175

>not using blood bullets
>not using Formless Oedon
>not using Oedon Writhe
>thinking that, for whatever reason, shooting the arrows wouldn't consume some sort of ammo

You have only yourself to blame.
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>>317881274
Well the share didn't work, was supposed to start 58 s in.
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How the fuck do I beat Kosm.

He just keeps attacking. He won't stop.
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>>317881271
>Killing yourself slowly just so you can shoot a few arrows
WHO WAS THE MADMAN
Pic unrelated, ran out of normal images so have some butt
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>>317880947
where do you get Valtr?
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>>317881426
His name is Kos.

Shoulda leveled stamina brah.
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>>317881472
I know right, what's the fucking point of guns if they cost money to shoot. quit whining
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>>317877808
Is it acceptable to be really turned on by this?
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>>317881672
fite me nigga
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>>317881481

Go to the Forbidden Woods and join his covenant. He's in the tower near the first lamp. Then equip the Impurity rune and go behind the spot by the two crows sitting near the gate where you can farm 5 blood vials in the DLC area. The one by the two giants.
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>>31788176
I'm too much of a pussy
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>>317881481
You have to join the covenant and equip the ruin first. Hes a summon exclusive to the league/confederate covenant. You find him right before the boss fight with Ludwig. Its hidden behind a rock and a couple of crows
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>>317856170
Beat him on my third try, and it was my first time getting to his second phase as well.

Does the phase 2 cutscene play every time?
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Just managed to beat him in NG++ with 2 buddies. With the exception of the charged Bankai Moonlight wave thing his second phase was so much easier.
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>>317881897
>Go to the Forbidden Woods
oh boy, it's been months since I last beat this game
but I remember hating the woods a lot
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>>317879817
It's 10 gigs senpai
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>>317881643
>he
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>Ludwig's head gets severed like Rapehorse's

Miyazaki kinda threw all the subtlety out the window.
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>>317881175
the same madman that also made it a melee weapon.
did you honestly expected anything else?
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>>317882942
What subtlety?
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91 ng Blade of Mercy user here.

>take like ten tries to beat ludwig
>take like six for living failures
>half the deaths were because I got stuck on something
>get so fucking frustrated at both of them
>feel fucking great when I finally beat them
>beat Maria first try
>just two fast weapon users zipping all over the place
>mfw she starts using blood attacks and gets longer range
>mfw her blood attacks catch on fire
>mfw I win first try with two blood vials left

Honestly I felt the best beating Ludwig and the Living Failures, but I enjoyed Maria's fight more.

It's in a fucking badass clocktower, she's a human boss and doesn't transform, it's basically a fight against the doll, why are Fromsoft so based when it comes to DLC? DS1 DLC was great, DS2 DLC was better than most of the game, BB DLC is amazing so far.

I've just started exploring the area after her, so I'm just going to assume the bosses from now on are just gonna fucking rape me, right?
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