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Dota 2: >log in, try to play a game >pick Venomancer, gonna
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Dota 2:
>log in, try to play a game
>pick Venomancer, gonna go full agi damage
>"wtf are you doing you noob FUCK? Veno is support, fucking Noob. FUCK! NOOB. FUCK!"
>"But I wanted to try and see if it works..."
>"GET THE FUCK BACK TO LOL YOU LEAGUE SHITTER!"

LoL:
>"Hey guys, I'm gonna go mid Darius and fuck over their Yasuo HARD"
>"Report for not following the meta"
>"Wtf? But Darius counters Yasuo hard, I've done it before"
>All Chat: "Everyone report our Darius for trolling in champ select!"

HotS:
>team communicates and is friendly
>team cooperates
>we win the game, no one is reported
>"GG guys" "GG man"

And this is why HotS is the better moba.
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>Dota 2:
>>log in, try to play a game
>>pick Venomancer, gonna go full agi damage
Stay in HotS, please.
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also HotS movement is the smoothest feeling of these games, it's even smoother than LoL, and way smoother than Dota 2. Dota 2 feels like I'm controlling a fucking boat.
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>>317719504
>"wtf are you doing you noob FUCK? Veno is support, fucking Noob. FUCK! NOOB. FUCK!"

And back to the Sub 3k trench you go. Veno is both a core and a support. I haven't seen people flame core veno in 5k+
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>casual babby doesnt know how to play game
>switches to casual babby game

nothing of value is lost
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>>317719735
>I can't deal with turning
Sasuga casuals.
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>>317719504
>HotS:
>team communicates
Yeah no.

>>317719735
It does feel smooth as fuck, it's insane. Gameplay is so fucking rubbish though. There is no depth whatsoever, which makes me sad. Shit had potential but nahh screw that let's make it casual as shit
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>>317719504
>log in, try to get a job
>pick Fireman, gonna go full naked guns blazing build
>"wtf are you doing you noob FUCK? Fireman is support, fucking Noob. FUCK! NOOB. FUCK!"
>"But I wanted to try and see if it works..."
>"GET THE FUCK BACK TO MILITARY YOU MILITARY SHITTER!"
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>>317719902
>bad controls make a game more hardcore

I bet you love fighting games too
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>>317719998
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>>317719968
>implying a Fireman wouldn't use a flamethrower
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veno is so good mid in this patch dunnu wtf op is talking about, clearly low skilled player
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disregard OP's faggot post, this is now a dota 2 thread
Why are agi heroes much more fun than other heroes ?
some strength heroes not included
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>>317719504
mobas are casualized warcraft clones and very few of them are self aware of it
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>>317720337
>Not Intel
Intelligence heros confirmed most fun
Drow has nothing on Ogre, Lion, or Rubick
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>>317720273
I got flamed for trying to play the game. That doesn't happen in HotS.
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>things that never happened
Unless you can provide a screenshot
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That only happens in 1k shit-tier pubs
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>>317719504
HotS:
>Nobody goes for objectives
>Enemy team gets them and snowballs out of control
>Teammates build wrong and cant unlevel their skills
>No skill has any impact so every fight feels like slapping the enemy team with a wet noodle
>Nobody on the enemy team gets caught out because everyone has an escape

Not even worth playing this trash for the cardback
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>>317720273
>veno
>full agi damage
>good
Pick only 2, dotard.
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>>317719504
>playing pubs
>pick Undying
>chose tombstone first
>automatically these memespouting retards start talking shit
>tell them to fuck off with their meta shit
>get double kill first blood with tombstone
>dominate the rest of the game with best k/d

Who the fuck cares enough to bitch about meta in pubs?
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>>317719504
I play a lot of Smite and never have problems with people being huge dicks.
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>>317720519
Jokes on you, I play Dota 2 and Hots, and I flame openly on both

for fuck sakes in Hots, its fucking easy, just stay in your fucking lane and don't lose exp
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>>317720492
venge > everything you cited
Also bristleback a best desu

Actually strength are more fun
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>>317719504
jesus man, blizz pays so well?
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Loli Pugna!
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>>317720612
How fucking new are you?

Veno carry was popular in early Dota 2
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>>317719504
I am glad you found a game that accepts you with all your flaws. I mean its only fair, since HotS is no strangers to flaws.
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>>317720594
>>No skill has any impact so every fight feels like slapping the enemy team with a wet noodle

Play Butcher then see if you say that. Dota 2 skills are boring and lack impact, HotS has a fucking ragdoll physics system and fully destructible environments, Dota 2 doesn't.
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>>317720729
>not following the backlings
We are talking about this patch, dotard.
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>>317720794
>Playing a squishy hero when the other team has a level lead
>FRESH MEAT
>use your escape and pray to not die before you even see the Butcher charge onto your screen
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>>317720617
Tombstone first literally is meta. What are you even going on about?
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>>317719504

You can try all you want in Bot matches. DOTA 2 has pretty solid bots.

Hope you always get shit, you fucking noob.
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The problem with Dota is that most people get into it by reading guides or watching pro players
Then they think that's the only way to play

People who whine about Meta in pubs are absolute shitters, though, don't listen to them
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>>317720794
>Dota 2 skills are boring and lack impact
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>>317719968
>full naked guns blazing build
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>>317720794
You can destroy the environment in dota 2

It's pretty much Timbersaws fucking job

As for rag doll physics, who cares
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>>317719504
But in Dota 2 unless you have the absolutely suicide inducing shitter stack on your team it's literally just one guy whining, mute him and move on
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>>317719504
>not trying retarded clownshoe shit in bot games first
OP only has himself to blame

Right click Veno fucking sucks compared to other heroes made for right clicking and only works if the other team is all brs
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>2015
>playing ASSFAGGOTS

I kek'd.
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All mobas are shit and if you are not being screamed at is because you are playing with peole that don't know what they are doing.
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>>317720794
>Dota 2 doesn't have destructible enviroments
>Dota 2 skills lack impact

Have you played Dota 2? I've played HoTs and even with a substantial lead, it takes me a while to kill heroes.
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>>317719504
>ABLOO ABLOO ONE ASSFAGGOTS IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER
>ABLOO ABLOO THIS ONE IS A DECENT GAME BECAUSE PEOPLE DEAL WITH MY AUTISM XD
>>>/vg/
fuck off back to your containment thread assfaggot.
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>>317719504
>tfw only play Dota 2 vs. bots
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>Waaaah why won't strangers on the internet support me waaah
>How am I supposed to play a game without their approval waaah?

How about grow some balls, OP?
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>caring what pubbies say
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>>317721238
>I've played HoTs and even with a substantial lead, it takes me a while to kill heroes.

That's good, it makes fights last longer, like a movie fight scene.
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>>317720492
Agree with Rubick!
Also: Keepper of the light - Silencer - Necrolyte
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jesus christ people crying about item builds or lanes in Dota 2 are fucking LoLbabbies or metakucks

There is no meta in dota2

there are no standard item builds in dota2, everything is dynamic
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>>317719504
The only good things about videogames is the porn that comes with it.
Prove me wrong.
Pro tip
Yous seriously can't refute that
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>Play SMITE
>Do an experimental build
>Its fine and nobody complains

play good MOBAs

only issue with smite is people instalocking gods in low-tier competitive
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>>317721285
>ignoring that said strangers can report you falsely and get you banned

HotS is the only one of these mobas where your account isn't at the mercy of strangers.
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>>317720963
These two guys were giving me shit for a good portion of the game for not choosing Decay first. They swore up and down on it. I don't bother looking up strategies.
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>>317719504
it's impossible to fuck up in hots because it's a casual orgy with no meta or thought process

just press all the buttons and win
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>>317721371
There are terrible ideas tho, like:
>>pick Venomancer, gonna go full agi damage
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>>317720794
I played a couple games with him. Didn't feel rewarding. It feels like the game is trying to be too clean or something. Nothing feels good.

Doing a Darius or Axe ult feel satisfying. League skills are really flashy and Dota skills have a lot of burst depending on the hero so they feel good to play.
In HotS, you catch somebody and you attack the shit out of them before they use their escape with 75% hp remaining.
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>>317721276
me too
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>>317719504

>ASSFAGGOTS
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>>317721417
Have you ever heard of someone being banned from Dota for doing an experimental item build?

I've done a ton of dumb stuff, and I haven't even been in low priority yet
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Worst thing about the DotA2 community is they won't accept their game is shitty and the matchmaking is completely stupid for this type of game (it's just a lazy FPS MM system)

Every time they say you're just shit for losing. When I posted my 5k rank they instantly moved the goalposts. Fucking cancer
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>>317721285
>won't strangers on the internet support me waaah
>How am I supposed to play a game without their approval waaah?
On a team game, that's a huge problem.

Like there's shitposting and then there's closet autism.
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>>317721314
as much as I love HoTs, you are fucking retarded man
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>>317721371
>There is no meta in dota2
>there are no standard item builds in dota2, everything is dynamic

I'm gonna go ahead and think that you are falseflagging because there can't be anyone this retarded.

Best case scenario: You dont understand what meta means to begin with.
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>Playing Solo queue
>EVER

Find someone to play with, m8
If you don't have friends just get some keks from reddit
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>>317719504

>playing with randoms

Just mute the whole team. They very,very rarely even have anything important to say and most of the time it's just some teenager bitching about everything.

What I find hilarious about people complaining about not "following the meta" or "playing like pro's" is that they literally have no idea what dota 2 is about.

It's always about experimenting, more or less and figuring out good shit yourself.

Let's see some pro's develop a strong carry Veno tactic or just get lucky with it at some point and people are gonna cream themselves over that. That's how thoughtless these people are.
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>>317721425
Well they are faggots. And so are you for picking a fucking meta in a pub. Literally cancer killing the game. Well atleast you didnt isntapick WR or Alche mid. I want that fucking stupdi frog to fix WR so I can play her again.
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>>317721512
because report limit
i always lost all of them in first match
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>>317721463
Nova is PURE BURST though

also HotS has the sexier women, all the women in that game are fucking THICK, like Tyrande and Sylvanas and Kerrigan. Dota 2 girls are too fat, and LoL girls are too anime looking. Also HotS has actual attractive inhuman women, like Kerrigan, Sylvanas, etc. Dota 2 and LoL have none.
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>>317720337
Dota thread? Ok.
Agi counters Str, Str counters Int, Int counters Agi. Prove me wrong.
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>>317721529
This is the only major complaint I have with Dota 2

But now I only play exclusively with 5stacks random drafts so I've dodged the issue. Valve needs to fix the ranking scheme, the problem is due to the amount of heroes, and the way the game is setup with counters and how dynamic it is, I wouldn't even know where to start in suggesting how to fix it.
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>>317719504
Never did play HotS but it might have a better community thanks to it low popularity. Anything that becomes popular has the tendency to attract retards.
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>>317721371
>There is no meta in dota2
There is a meta in literally every competitive game you retard. What you mean is whether or not its enforced by the company.
That being said, Riot never really punished you for doing out of meta shit as long as you played well while you did it. They are a lot more lax nowadays too.

>>317721404
Smite is really fun sometimes and super frustrating the rest. I feel like too many gods can become magic immune and escape. Just kinda kills your boner halfway through every fight.
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>>317721765
Nerf that bitch and delete alch for them wanting to rice for radiance octarine every fucking game
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>>317721765
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>playing ASSFAGGOTS

why don't you try playing suicide instead
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>>317721684
the metagame in dota2 is literally whatever some autist saw some Pro do successfully during a tournament
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>>317721805
Antimage
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>>317719504
Awesomenauts
>lel nobody plays that shit, ded game.

;_;
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>>317721529
>Every time they say you're just shit for losing. When I posted my 5k rank they instantly moved the goalposts. Fucking cancer

Been there done that.

>Make point
>"you are a scrub"
>Comment im 5k
>"no you are not"
>Provide proof
>"That is shopped"
>Provide dotabuff
>"You might have gotten boosted"

The fanbase has an insane problem when it comes to noticing problems in their own game.

My favourite one is when a hero is overpowered, you comment on it and everybody says that he is 100% just fine and call you a scrub.

Then the hero gets nerfed to oblivion the following patch, every, fucking, time.

Patiently waiting for some slight WR nerfs
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>>317721765
>implying I care enough about ASSFAGGOTS to check if my builds are meta or not

It's just a game bro
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>>317721869
I never tried that one before, does it have any good heroes?
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>>317721745
>dota is about experimenting
Thats as stupid as playing the meta. Try your retarded shit with bots. Play whats fun and beneficial for team.

>>317721859
I mean fuck, she even replaced pudge as the most picked hero. What the fuck is with that? Did it ever happen before? How fucking broken has a her oto be to beat pudge in pickrate?

>>317721865
>tattoo
no
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>>317721735
>all my friends play dota
>decide to join them
>they become really salty and annoyed in match
>never play with them again
We just have a laugh playing hots but for some reason they are super serious playing dota
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>>317721805
Naix
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>>317721865
Couldnt hide her ugly ass tatoo

so close to being perfect too
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>>317721792
>not wanting to fuck broodmother
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>>317721805
That's wrong on so many levels, and that would be implying everyone plays the same in their category.
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>>317721946
>implying you dont know damn well what the fuck is meta
You are either lying or retarded. Neither option impress me.
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>>317721967
>>317721957
2/10 would not bang
am i right? xD
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>>317721314
lmfao
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>>317721878
No it is not.

Example: in the current meta it is very popular to 5man early
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>>317721959
Dota 2 and LoL are toxic as fuck. People play those and become total fucking nazis. LoL being the worst of the two, since people will report you simply for saying "please stop feeding". Dota 2 though has voice chat, god I hate when some faggot nerd starts screaming in his fucking mic. It's annoying as shit.
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Wait so in this scenario you decided to not be a massive retard when playing HotS, or are you saying HotS players don't care if you're a massive retard?
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>>317721956
only one
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>>317719504
DotA 2:
>log in, try to play a game
>pick Omniknight, start out as support then later transition into pure speed with some durability and carry
>"wtf are you doing you noob FUCK? Omni is support, fucking Noob. FUCK! NOOB. FUCK!"
>"Sit the fuck down"
>"GET THE FUCK BACK TO LOL YOU LEAGUE SHITTER!"
>Proceed to both support and carry the game
>"REPOOT OMNI"
>Get commended instead

Ever, fucking, tim

Also, if there's anyone who's against experimental builds in DotA 2 they can go and fuck themselves. Doing stupid and unorthodox shit is what makes dota what it is and keeps it alive.
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>>317719504
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wew
mobadrones will respond to anything
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>>317719504
LoL fags are the abosolute worst its literally fucking reddit the game.
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>>317719710
>play LoL on silver friend's smurf
>do ridiculous shit in ranked like Riven or Lee bot, Akali/bursty assassin bot, Wukong mid, Graves/Lucian mid, etc
>about half the time someone says, "gg, ff at 20" and proceeds to flame me all game
>laugh when I go legendary and take all my lane's towers
>the closer the account got to diamond, the less people gave a shit
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>>317722096
>thinking fights that end the second someone gets attacked are fun

Yeah some of us don't want to play CoD Fantasy Edition
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Don't mind me just playing the superior MOBA
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>>317722081
>I'm retarded for not going full austismo on a video game.

Ok

Stop
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>>317722083
Nice memes. I like memes too. But I am not too keen on countering criticism with memes.
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>>317722228
Just let it go man
Its okay
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>>317722195
>its literally fucking reddit the game.

found the cancer
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>>317722154
stupid and unorthodox shit is the funniest thing to do in any game when it's possible, but only if you win or at least not feed with it.
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>>317719504
>HotS
>No allchat
>No voicechat
>Can't add people after the game if you miss the scorescreen
>Can't look at the scorescreen after you leave the wrapup section
>Abilities are extremely simple skillshots
>Forced team compositions
>Predetermined roles from the pick screen
>No banning in ranked
>Soak XP, group up for the objective, do camps before or after objective spawns, rinse, repeat no matter the map you're on
>Artificial objectives spawn on the map, you don't get to decide what to do or what to take, the game tells you instead, wheras in other games you would secure an area or tower as an objective if you felt your team needed it. (For example, you would converge bottom lane, push a tower, or gank it if you wanted to secure Roshan in the next few minutes, or even defend a tower for map control)
>Replay system is literally a VCR player. If you want to forward 20minutes into the game it says "Seeking" and forwards at a maximum of 8x speed
>No spectating
>No swapping
>Focused more on skins than game design
>Stimpacks are a fucking thing
>Buy heroes or grind your ass off, especially after you run out of bonus gold gains
I can go on if you want
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>>317722083
>tatoo
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>>317722269
I am not impressed. Everybody know what meta is, because its literally in every match.
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>>317721936
no, i actually like being able to play as WR rather than all the boring ugly fucks that are constantly on top of the meta
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>>317722119
I thought the current meta is heroes who can stop 1 dude from dying
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>>317722424
>no tattoo visible
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>>317722217
>woooow, basketball is such a shit game: once the ball goes in the net it's over, boring af. I like the game where you put the ball in the net and have to jump up and mash it repeatedly to get it to fit through
So since when you said "spells have impact in hots and no impact in dota 2" you were clearly not talking about impact on the outcome of the fight, what the fuck were you talking about?
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>>317721404
No, you will deal with playing most games with Neith, Bologna, Sol, Hercules, Thor and Loki.

Its the fucking worst I tell ya'.

Especially in Assault, I seriously wish Assault would take from the entire god pool instead of just what you own and are on the free rotation. People just make alt account solely for assault so they have a bigger chance of getting the gods they want instead of it being 100% random.
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>/v/irgins throws around histories about being easily and unjustly banned in dota 2
>play dota 2 for 3 years
>never went low priority
You're full of shit. Like that guy complaining on steam forums that he doesn't know why he was banned and all his usernames were something involving racism and nazism.
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>play HOTS for the first time
>pick jainna because all other heroes are locked behind paywall
>literally go 50/0 because enemy players are brain dead
>we are still the same level as them
This feels like a MOBA for special needs people.
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>>317722519
>shit will disappear if you can't see it
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>>317720462
They literally have nothing in common with RTS other than the top down view you fucking shitposter
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>>317722543
I'm talking about the impact, like how good they feel when you land them. Like Butcher's charge and his maim move, they feel and sound like they hit HARD, and you feel the impact when he slams into someone. Also I love that sound when fresh meat drops on the floor and you pick it up and it sounds like blood being slurped up and dripping.
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>>317719504
Dota 2:
>log in, try to play a game
>pick Venomancer, gonna go full agi damage
>no supp veno?
>xaxaxa penopt

Lol:
>"Hey guys, I'm gonna go mid Darius and fuck over their Yasuo HARD"
>Sorry I called mid first, you're not going mid, besides Darius is not a mid champ
>Pick Darius first and go mid
>Get instantly permaband by real-time tribunal
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>>317722407
all these flaws and it's still more fun than lol or dota or any other assfaggots
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>>317719504
HotS:
>Doesn't have Female Monk.
Fucking dropped.
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>>317722640
>animeshit
>taste
>>
Recipe to win every single match in HoTS, at least in quickmatch:
>lanes don't matter, most of the time stick together and pick off enemy team
>when map objective activates, rush it
>win errytiem
>Raynor with recruitment perk for total ezmodo
Works always, unless you get random'd with the most braindead of the braindead.
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>>317722573
>Bologna


How the fuck is lunchmeat gonna be a hero?
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>>317722331
Never, LoL versus HoN r-remember guys?

;_;
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BETTER TO RUN THAN CURSE THE ROAD
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>>317722784
>faggot defending tatoos
>allowed to have opinion
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>>317722605
Nobody is punished anymore since everybody was reporting everybody and they all was in low priority muted. They turned it off. Turns our a faggots spewing insults is better for the community than everybody muted.

I imagine that it was the same guy that though putting "Well Played!" could ever see unironical usage.
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>>317722741
>biggest hots event had only 20k viewers on twitch
>hots room during blizzcon is always deserted
ayy lmao
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>>317722839
Whups, I accidentally called her by my nickname.
I meant Bellona lel.
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>>317721957
Well that's what constant small buffs will do to a hero

they broke her when they changed the angle and range of shackle shot. It used to be decently difficult to land one, now its decently difficult not to land one.
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>>317722543
Why are Dota players so insistent on using sports analogies to describe their shitty game when it's clear they don't play sports or have the barest understanding of them?
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>pick Meepo
>solo hard
>start being agressive on level 3
>upgrade ult mid fight and double kill
>enemy team is assblasted and starts playing smart
>the hunt begins
>the moment I appear on map everyone teleports to me
>they just waste money on scrolls
>farming in enemy jungle
>on ~20 minute mark I just run around solo after enemy team while main carry farms.
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we get the better dryad
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>>317719504
>play dota 2
>play however I want
>some retard starts asking everyone to report you
>no one does and he has no reporting points since 2013

>play league of legends
>play however I want
>get banned by the tribunal for being toxic

>play hots
>play however I want
>no one gives a fuck
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>>317723060
yeah we will
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>>317723019
Yeah I mean everyone is busy playing the game, not watching it being played like some sort of faggot.
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>>317723060
>Hides one crotch region
>Doesn't hide the other
I never understood this
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> Playing the Adventure time MOBA
> Shitting on 10 year olds sure is fun
> Playing with 2 other friends
> Rank skyrockets up
> Suddenly people start orbwalking
> Hmm this is getting interesting
> Win a few more games
> Hey these people are actually okay mechanically
Then we lost a game and quit forever. My pride was shattered.
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>Watch dota 2 espurts
>meta dominates
>still has a lot of heroes picked
>Some faggot team breaks out a strat with heroes everyone thinks are shit
>It becomes meta
>rinse and repeat
this is why i like dota
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>>317723060
>Better than Sproink

Whoa, lets not get ahead of ourselves
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>>317719968
>comparing playing a video game to a job
sasuga pleb
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>>317723145
Illusion of decency
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>>317721957
She's fun to play like Pudge, except she's actually a strong hero. Though I wouldn't say she's overpowered. I expect she'll get some nerfs in the next patch in a few weeks.
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>>317719735
not smoother than HoN tho. S2 engine is stuff of legends.
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>>317719504
>pick Venomancer, gonna go full agi damage
Get the FUCK OUT, your kind is the cancer killing Dota.
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Post extremely easy pubstompers
I know people have a lot of trouble against Huskar in low skill at least, who can be comparable to Huskar in terms of simple crushing power ? I know for example Tusk fills the same bill.
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>tfw havent played regular dota game in 2 month
custom games are just better
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>>317722954
>Nobody is punished anymore
They still are, they only removed unlimited reports to make people use them only when it really is a banable offense. And when the person you reported is banned, you get your report ticket back. This is how i know people are banned, because i receive the message "We took action against a person you reported..." or something like that.

It's just that people are retarded and think use reports as a valve to release their rage. You don't ban someone who plays bad for example. But you only need to play to see how common it is for people do that. Which is why Valve had to change the system.
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>>317723152
oh god, I totally forgot about it.

That shit was fun, dota 2 friends asked if we wanted to group up and stomp kids for shits and giggles. Then eventually it headed into top tier plays and seriousness.

Good times.
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>>317723229
>>317722860
>>317722228
lol
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>>317723059
>pick Lich
>watch meepo panic and slowly try to split clones

Easy gold, every time
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>>317723060
>edgyad
>better than hop, skip and jump slut
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>>317723273
League of Legends refugees like you can't comprehend that you have no say in how another player chooses to play his hero in pubs. Please don't play dota 2 any more.
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>>317723281
Slark is good if the enemy team doesn't know what his passive does
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>>317723040
Its messed up. I am not sure whats more impressive. When somebody manage to not hit shackle or the shackle itself that stretches across continents and bends into acute angles.

>>317723201
You are retarded and I have nothing to tell you except that you are a stupid piece of shit. How fucking strong your delusion have to be to even utter this shit? She isnt fun as pudge, nobody is as fun as pudge. Nobody ever was or will be. She is just plain broken and easy to win the game with.

>>317723306
I was half joking and I half expect the message to be randomly generated after a report. When the whole reporting thing started I was muted 24/7. I flame even more and I havent been muted once since that one time I suspect they turned it off.
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>play a game of Dota 2
>pick Venge for supporting and possible late game carry if we do well
>tell team I'll support and ask where they want me
>SOLO OFFLANE
>uhh guys I can't do that
>too bad fgt everyone's just going to go to the other lanes and ignore you
>try to suffer in lane for a bit
>Help!
>Help!
>no one even tries to rotate
>feed first blood for obvious reasons
>wow okay fuck this shit I guess I'll just grab a morbid and jungle
>already behind from shitty laning
>eventually some teamfights break out
>well I guess I can actually do something now
>team ping spams enemy group to go
>drop my spells
>look behind me
>team is gone
>everyone is flaming me now
>no one ever bothers to do anything helpful for me
>we lose
>"REPORT ANON"
>"ANON CAN'T PLAY FOR SHIT REPORT"
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>>317720492
>Ogre
>fun

I got buttblasted once after picking Ogre and the other team went silencer, pugna and omni onto me, and they all bought BKBs, never again.
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>>317723281
Anyone who balls out of control near midgame and continues to do so later.

So I guess anti-fun and ember?

Keep in mind though I don't play carries so I'm not sure. My bread & butter lies within support and durable
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>>317721865
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I really like HotS, just saying.
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>>317723401
stay trench negro
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>>317723362
When you get your aghanims, I'll already have SoV and probably Ethereal.
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>>317723362
Jesus christ, a pentagon split isn't as easy as I remember

It always manages to bounce on the one meepo to keep the lich dream alive
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>>317723165
Dota 2 has too many redheads.
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Nah I have been flamed for not picking the "right" talents in HotS before. No denying that the flaming in Dota is 10x more usual though.

Correct way to play these games is unranked and custom games and throw your tryhard hat in the trash.
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>>317723536
That thumbnail is breddy sneaki breeki
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>>317719504
>HotS:
>>team communicates and is friendly
>>team cooperates
>>we win the game, no one is reported
>>"GG guys" "GG man"

ftfy

>HotS:
>team never communicates
>team does not cooperates
>we win the game, no one is reported
>"GG guys" "GG man"
>we lose the game, no one is reported
>chat silent, everyone leaves


Anyway,
DotA, HoN, LoL, DotA 2, HotS, Smite, that shitty 3v3 arena everyone was talking about but suddenly forgot 1 month later etc etc etc

They all suck, the whole genre should just die out already. There is no bloody point to play a game with meta strategies involved, its just dumbing down the whole culture of gaming when we used to be able to choose our own way of playing things.

>>317722786
HoTS is PvP but there is no other game where you feel like you are literally playing with bots half the time.
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>>317723589
All I need is veil, you'll feed me my aghs afterwards
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>>317719504
>HotS
>no items
>only one talent build is good just like modern cookie cutter WoW

the modern moba tiers are

God tier
>DotA (all heroes unlocked, cosmetics drop + steam community market, best balance)

Okay tier
>HotS (can actually farm a hero in a week)

Shit tier
>League (can't farm shit pay up sucker $$$ must be younger than 18 to play)
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>>317723506
Doesn't matter if they report. This ain't LoL, you won't get banned because you were a scapegoat.
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I don't give a fuck about a fucking random faggot's opinion
If I want a fucking Dagon for Antimage,I will get a fucking Dagon for Antimage
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>>317723475
The community doesn't really care about flaming anymore it feels like

although purposely feed, and then the pitch forks come
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>>317723764
HotS takes longer than league though
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>>317723795
^This

I've had terrible days in dota2 and had the entire team against me, shit's not fun, but the most important part is to not throw a shit fit, because you'll prolly end up bent then.

Just be humble and apologetic and they can't touch you.
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>>317723506
I've played with a venge like that.
The issue was venge last picked.
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>>317723915
you can also just mute them
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>>317723762
How can you use veil and ult if you are dead after my dagger poof combo?
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>>317723834
Oh I have been reported, alright? Its not like they havent tried. I bet they got the message and they report back while I got no punishment. But thats just my conspiracy theory.
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>>317723831
>not blink dagger for maximum *teleports behind you*
It's like you hate fun
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>>317723831
>blink dagger, force staff, and dagon antimage
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>>317723764
The Pick/Ban system makes no sense in LOL
I actually like the drafting in Dota since you can counter them mid pick
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>>317723762
>tfw you micro your meepo out of agha lich ulti while wrecking the other team
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>>317723761

3v3 arena... are you talking about bloodline champions? Because it's a much different game and shouldn't even be compared to a moba. Yes, it has moba-like camera, but that's where the similarities end.

It's closer to street fighter than league. It's nothing but teamfights. No towers, no creeps, 3 two-minute round brawls with a sudden death if people last past that time.
Games are over in less than 10 minutes.
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>>317723475
She's not broken. Learn to position yourself better so you aren't an easy shackle target.
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>>317724014
Because I will wait behind my team and destroy you once you jump on them of course
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>>317724032
Naw, i've reported people before and not receive that message.

Typically only the really toxic players get put into LP
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>>317723872
League has no quests

>Buy league hero after grinding forever
>No IP for runes

don't lie to yourself
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>>317724014
>Core position hero can beat a 5 position support in a one on one if he gets the jump on him

You're totally missing the point, Lich for absolutely no gold investment makes Meepo's life hell, and since Meepo naturally sucks the gold and xp away from his team having something like Lich to keep him in check essentially wins you the game.
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Why would you play HotS when you can play Dota 2 custom games like Overthrow or 10v10? No one bothers with lasthitting in them either and you don't have to deal with the shame of playing HotS and you can even leave whenever you like without punishment of any kind.
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I have been playing off and on since beta, but I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
I like to think I do okay for my skill bracket when I play a carry, but when I support I just go full retard.

I don't know when to harass/stack/look for ganks in other lanes. So I just sit there in lane and leech exp. Sure I see all this shit in the purge guide, but it just leaves my brain as soon as I get into the game.

I'm playing with a "friend" that said he'd help me and tell me what to do, but he's just mute the entire game until I fuck something up and get yelled at.

I wish I could have fun playing dota
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>>317723795
I know, but it's still shitty to just be completely ignored as a team member and then scapegoated at the end. Not to mention I was just getting rekt for 30mins because of my shit start.

>>317723965
I was second pick
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>the people that pick Earth Shaker instead of Lich to handle Meepo
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>>317719504
>HoTS
gg f_aM
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>>317719504
>Tourneyfags ruining games
Nothing new
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>>317723831
>>317724047
>>317724054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOlGkipXyU&ab_channel=Flimsii

>>317724314
Yeah, randomly generate the message.

>>317724261
I still have nothing your stupid piece of shit. I dont care what you tell yourself while picking her and having 75% winrate to feel better, but you need to stop and face the facts.

Nobody that is not absolutely shit fucked broken can beat pudge in pickrates.
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>>317724331
Quest are trash. Even factoring quest it takes longer to get heroes in HotS. Quest only serve to make you feel like you're getting more.
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>>317724261
> Shackleshot cast point from 0.3 to 0.15.
> Shackleshot search range from 525 to 575.

Pretty big changes man, I feel if they went back she wouldn't have such a high Winrate as she has now
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>>317724361
>the shame of playing
autism
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>>317724594
I've never spent a dime on HotS because I could unlock with gold, even the 15k brand new ones.

There's no way you are grinding for 6300 IP champs in less time AND having IP for runes.

Just admit that you pay the $10 every time.
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>>317722213
I think that was one of the best things I enjoyed about league was the high ranked random things you could do and others would do just for fun.
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>>317724741
My biggest issue with LOL is those fucking rune pages

I only have 2, which means I can only play 2 positions optimally

any other positions, already at a disadvantage, and in a game which is based on winning small advantages over and over until you snowball, it's fucking lame.
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>>317724614
It would be nice if they changed it so she can't delete a hero every time her ult is up

You know, with the whole having an excellent laning, being flexible, item independant and one of the best attack animations (the?) in the entire game I think it was enough
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>>317724554
I don't pick her, and her winrate isn't anywhere near 75. Not even above 50.
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>>317724502
>playing the game to actually play the game instead of le friendly hoovy or whatever the fuck meme bullshit you do is ruining games
finally somebody who thinks as i do
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>>317719504
in Dota 2 I never get shit on if trying something that can work (like your example), they usually freak out if you pick Teemo or Techies though
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>>317721936
>First hero that got me into the game was Leshrac
>Pushing meta is done and over with
>Go to OD
>He gets nerfed
>Go to Visage
>He has no use for the meta
>Go to Lina
>She eventually got outclassed by Lion
>Go back to Leshrac again
>He's a meme hero people only liked for his lightning until that was nerfed
stop destroying what I like
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There is nothing wrong with dps veno as long as you are NOT demanding the support to focus on you or fighting over resources with actual carry.
As long as the game is entering late game you'll be a support dpser. You just don't have the skill set for true carry role.
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>below 5k players
>thinking they matter
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>>317724331
Why do you retards always bring up runes like its a major thing?
You will have enough for a generic page for each role without any kind of real investment. You don't need to buy more runes with every new champion you buy.

>>317724906
This is a legitimate complaint. New players don't get as many rune pages as people who started before and its pretty bullshit
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>>317724980
Honestly I'd freak out plenty if I found teemo in a dota match
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>>317722407

My friends that are too scared of Dota lap up this shit, I wish I could convert them but they don't want to.
>>
Multiplayer only "videogames" are not real videogames.
>>
DotA is terrible with an awful community, but LoL is the absolute worst.

In DotA I've seen people doing unconventional builds and switching up lanes all of the time and unless the player actually sucks or you're teamed with some extraordinary spergs, nobody cared.

In LoL unless you pick and build your champion in perfect accordance with the meta and take role-appropriate lanes, you get reported and banned for being toxic. Probably have to fill a personality test too, now.

I have no idea why would anyone play this anymore. It's fucking Farmville tier, do the same exact things over and over and over again or you're toxic. Which is a shame because I played LoL from beta through Season 2 and it showed at least some promise as DotA but better. Popularity did it no good.
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>>317725116
yeah, usually because people had bad experience with him, he's pretty easy to play
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>>317725062
I dont want to destroy what you like, but it's both annoying and BORING to face the same overpowered hero every fucking match

See: WR now, Lesh and BS before that, etc etc

I remember when faceless void offlane was the meta and I just stopped playing for 3 months because it was insanely fucking BORING
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>play Dota 2
>everyone tells everyone else to pick support
>mid or feed
>NOOB REPORT WRONG BOOTS EVERYONE REPÖRT
>cyka blyat tahni
>people who play Void or Gyro are systematically shit
>the guy who complains the most is the one who throws the game every single time


I kind of like the game but the community ruins it hard
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>Tfw Oracle is fucking awful now
>Nobody will admit it because his skill/reward ratio is a meme

God damn Oracle is so bad now and nobody will admit it, in reality he's mana hungry and almost entirely single target.
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>>317724396
It happens, there's a lot of shitty people out there and the whole unpersonal nature of the interaction feeds such behavior. Just mute. Play dota with muted chat for a while and only communicate through pings and don't flame, even if you really want to. After you mastered self control then unmute the chat. You'll see how your experience will drastly improve. Worked wonders for me.
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>>317724336
>>317724268
Well if we are talking about team on team action then there are too many variables. If I could see my winrate against specific hero on Meepo, I would show that it's not that bad after all I have over 600 games on him
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>>317724212
>are you talking about bloodline champions?

Looks similar to what I remember, but not sure though.

I get you point about it not being similar enough to compare but MOBA = Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. Any game that has its core gameplay with those criteria fulfilled is considered a MOBA.
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>>317719504
Nice strawman, doesnt happen unless youre a shitter, at which point your teammates comments are irrelevant

>plays hots

shitter confirmed
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>>317719735
probably the worst animations of any game ever created
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>>317722407
>>Replay system is literally a VCR player.
every single videogame replay system is like that, some are just slightly faster than others
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>>317725289
Or because he belongs to a different game, who knows.
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>>317719504
>2015
>ASSFAGGOTS
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>>317725162
Do you think it's a problem with Dota or a problem with your friends?

HotS has earned it's place in the moba world with the more laid back design imo.
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>>317719504
>playing dota by yourself

all dotas and dota clones are only fun with 3 or more friends
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>>317725326
Get to 4k at least, it gets better.
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>>317725326
>tahni
what does that mean?
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>>317721923
>Artanis on my team

LET'S DO THIS SHIT
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>>317719504
>login dota
>pick Phoenix
>proceed to rape in offlane
>proceed to rape in teamfights
>my teammates basically sucking my dick in chat
Dota is breddy good
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>>317719504
everyone who plays assfaggots are shitheads, just do whatever you want and try to have fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emUQSITvuVE
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>>317725326
I haven't seen a void in MONTHS
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>>317725341
dude, he just got a huge buff to his w, he's in a better point than ever
>b-b-but his ult got nerfed
Get glimmer cape, now you have his old ult AND his new ult
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>>317725326
>tfw i always tell other to pick support
I swear if I do this it's because I can't support for shit, and I've been supporting for a while, BECAUSE peope wouldn't want to pick supports. It gets boring after a while
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>>317725295
I didn't really mind Lesh, but even then that was back when you didn't put any points into lightning and put more into Edict/stats. I never saw a lightning-spec of him but that's because I didn't play Dota in a long time.

WR and BS just seemed both boring in general.
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>>317725480
It never gets better, you only learn to deal with it.
>>
who
>notail
here
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>>317725480
I don't have friends so I have to play alone, I climbed to 3500 but now I'm back to 1800 because of those fucking Void first picks
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>>317725358
The only variable you have to consider with lich is if he is smart enough to stand behind some meat, if he is then you're gonna have a shitty time
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>>317725326
>teammate picks alchemist, tinker, void
>lost at the picking screen
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>>317724919
Its rough for me, I loved playing WR, but now I feel dirty picking her.

I have this weird curse that my heroes tend to become flavor of the months. Its truly suffering (also happened with Alch for me)
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>>317725258
They are getting better about it. You can do dumb shit like mordekaiser adc and brand jungle.
As long as you don't play like shit and ruined ranked games, your team has no reason to report you. Unless you are 0/15/0 for 10 games in a row, you won't even be on their radar
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>>317725447
>laid back design
You mean "any design at all", instead of blindly copying an ancient SC1 (not even broodwar, vanilla sc) Use Map Settings map.
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>>317725447

With them. The game is not nearly as complex as people hype it up to me. A few hundred hours of learning and you're good.

It has it's place, but it's disappointing.
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>>317724936
I could understand trying to defend your fragile ego while playing her. But if you dont, what the fuck are you even doing you stupid fucking faggot? She is one third of all picked heroes. And no, its not because she is fun.
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>>317725480
>i-it gets better 10 000 hours in!
mobabies everyone
>>
Okay guys,I don't play this shit game for a few months now and I want to know if my favorite heroes are viable
My 5 favorites are PA,Slark,Naga,Windrunner and AntiMage
Are they viable?
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>>317725562
>Doesn't give +50% damage anymore for quick Roshing or level 1 harass on the enemies
>Can now be purged
>Buff

He is literally a shitty Dazzle now.
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>>317725895
They're all incredibly viable right now
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>>317725718
its not as easy as you think it is either. yeah, a few hundred hours and you'll know the basics and pretty much every hero. but then you have more to go.
- lane matchups
- the ever changing meta
- how to maximize efficiency in each role (and i can guarantee you will not be godly in any role until you have at least 2000 hours in and thats if you fully dedicate yourself)
- a bunch of tricks you can do with different heroes
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Post em.
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>>317719504
I stopped playing MOBAs when I realized I was placing 30 min of my life in the hands of 9 other people, and at least one of them was on there just to troll. The only way I'd ever play again is if I were on a team with friends.
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>>317725326
>>317725549
>>317725636
what's wrong with void
i like him
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