>buy computer to play vidya
>everything fucking lags and some games don't even work
>can only play Age of Empires
>friend tells me I need to buy a 3D graphics card
>shit I didn't know you would need to buy extra stuffs just to play vidya
>get my PC to the nearest computer store
>buy a Geforce 4 mx440 64Mb
>get it installed
>all my games look incredible and smooth as fuck holy shit
>play Medal of Honor and C&C Generals all weekend
>walk pass the store from where I bough my VGA
>see same VGA but with 128MB also twice as expensive
>ask the guy what's the difference
>your games will run better with this one
>HOLY SHIT
>bring my computer back
>get that bad boy installed
>everything looks exactly the same
>the ATi Radeon 9700pro was out at the time
So, any retarded things you've done when building a gayming PC /v/?
Let's hear them.
>>317707724
>bought an expensive soundcard and gaming headphones
>everything sounds the same as before on cheep phones and integrated card
>>317707724
>buy gtx 970
>3.5gb
>>317707856
>soundcard in the year 2015
LOL
>>317707993
I have no regrets.
>>317707993
By the time you reach 3.5 you are already having shit performance. This is the shittiest meme.
>>317708025
High end headsets and speakers need a soundcard you retarded mong.
>>317708092
>vram usage = lower performance
God I wish neo-/v/ would just all be rounded up and gassed to death.
>finally have the money to build a PC after years of using cannibalized prebuilts
>put all the parts together and hook up all the power cables
>turn on
>LOL CPU TEMP 99C EAT SHIT
>open case and check the cooler (stock because I hadn't thought to go aftermarket at the time)
>remove the cooler and rotate 90 degrees clockwise
>suddenly CPU temp drops to 25C
Then I found out months later that I forgot to install the USB 3.0 drivers for the motherboard.
>>317708167
I think he means by the time you reach the 3.5gb vram usage, you'd already be basically maxing out the card to begin with
>>317708106
Lmao. Get keked by sound card companies. How fucking out of touch with tech are you? Why would you ever buy an internal solution for sound instead of a dap if you are truly an audiophile?
>>317708235
>>317708235
just shut up already, you know nothing
When I was a kid I built two PCs out of junk parts so that my friends could come around and we could all play Counter-Strike. The things had tiny hard drives that were already ten years old at the time, they could barely just fit an OS and the game on them, they got shitty framerates in software mode and one of them didn't even have a case, but hey, they worked.
>>317708235
Of course, considering it only has 3.5gb of VRAM.
Nearing 75% performance should NOT bog down anything. Most hardware is performing optimally at around 85 - sometimes 90 - percent. Any more or less than that and you're lacking efficiency.
>>317708460
fuck you
>two times 64 is 128
>>317708494
>Nearing 75% performance should NOT bog down anything.
>Most hardware is performing optimally at around 85 - sometimes 90 - percent. Any more or less than that and you're lacking efficiency.
What are you even blabbering about? VRAM usage isn't uniform across games, it's not even a direct metric for anything performance related.
>>317708494
>try to run 4k with the power of a gtx but unlimited vram
>get 10 fps
WOW
>>317708494
Is this what happens when a consoletard talks about pc stuff?
>buy gtx970
>buy 144hz 2K displayfuture proofed display, i guess
>>317708749
I'm "babbling" about the fact that hardware performs optimally at "85-90%". Are you having trouble reading, anon?
The extra 10% gives you plenty of wiggle-room (and in some cases, especially with hard drives, you can start seeing really weird errors if you're consistently at ~95%). If you're anything less than 85-90% then you're obviously overkill in that particular regard.
>>317708883
Feel free to educate yourself before you reply to me. Thanks.
>>317708747
64 x 24 = 1536
>>317708106
>High end headsets and speakers need a soundcard you retarded mong.
I almost died laughing just now. Good one.
>>317709042
The mind of a retard truly is a thing to behold.
>>317709042
>This guy
>consider building PC
>get massive anxiety over the idea
>decide not to
Good day!
>>317709042
You're retarded m8.
>>317709042
That shit doesnt matter in the slightest. What matters is how shit fps youll have being anywhere near the 3.5 vram point. Its very rare horribly optimized conslole ports that break this trend.
>>317709042
this guy. sorry to break it to ya buddy but... you're a dumbass. tough
>>317708025
You mad?
>>317709156
>gaming headphones
there's the problem not the soundcard, you're just a retard with shitty hearing.
>decide to build PC
>can't afford jewtel and don't want a bottleneck gpu
>end up with a bottleneck cpu
and the shittiest part is that I'll have to buy a new mobo and cooler if I decide to upgrade
I built a new rig the other week there, 980 ti with 6600k. It was only my second build, so I'm still pretty inexperienced with it.
>mfw monitors wont work
>mfw try x100000 different things off google for like 4 hours
>smarter, more tech savvy friend solves it in <10 minutes, all I had to do was change the boot preferences to the GPU
Pic related, me the entire time. Shit is stressful, think I'm going to just buy a custom build next time, not sure I want to deal with that shit again.
>tfw silky smooth 100+ fps in practically every game now though.
>>317708461
Sounds like fun
>build a PC
>every time there is a graphic or sound glitch in the games I think it's my computer dying
>freak out for weeks
>it happens again
>keep freaking out
Having a PC is a fucking nightmare. Now you're constantly thinking about if it is well ventilated or if it doesn't have dust inside. Oh what if there is an electric failure, checking the temps every 15 minutes. I can't fucking do this shit.
>>317709608
>he paid upwards of 80 dollars bare minimum for this waste of money
>"You mad?"
That's fucking hilarious.
>>317709350
There are places that will make it for you. You specify the parts and that's it. No stress. Normally they don't charge you -that- much more for labour charges either.
>>317709626
PC building is a giant money pit. You either spend like 1500 for real quality or spend like 800 for watered down shit barely better than what you would have got for half the price, and then needing to upgrade in a year because your motherboard doesn't support the the newer CPUs
>>317709652
Pretty much my experience. Next time I'll either buy prebuilt or pay bestbuy 50 bucks to put the shit together for me
>>317709740
You don't actually do this, stop acting retarded
>>317709740
You have OCD.
Not even joking
One time I bought 16gb of RAM and then I found out that that's too much. That sure was embarrassing!
>>317709756
I bet you have a 2-speak setup, no digital anything, and a sub 600 ohm pair of headphones. Of course Audio quality wouldn't matter to you and your built in laptop speakers.
> build pc
> put ram chips bext to each other on mobo
> computer wont start up
> mobo that /g/ suggested has digital read out, code indicates problem with ram chips
> turns out I had to put ram in alternating slots, not right next to each other
The end
>>317709624
Sorry to break it to you, but you're actually the retard here. You don't understand even the first thing about electronic interference, because if you did, you'd realize that buying an internal sound card is literally no different than just using on-board sound. But don't let this stop you from trying to argue with me. I find it incredibly amusing to see someone who is blatantly wrong trying their hardest to argue their wrong points, all the while calling everyone else retarded. It's great entertainment.
this thread is amazing, keep posting
>>317709776
This implies I need to buy their parts, which means I would not at all get a good deal and end up paying atleast 2-300 more.
And the stress exists in picking the parts as well, not just the building.
>>317710038
Where else are you supposed to put a sound card?
USB that is prone to even worse interference and fails to work half the time?
>>317709865
>you don't actually do this
Not him, but as someone who actually suffers from real OCD, that is something people with OCD do. Daily.
>>317709801
>implying you can't get decent quality for $800
I guess maybe if you live in Canada or the UK or some other hellhole where PC parts cost more than prebuilts.
What has /v/ become
>>317710027
You could have the best headphones on the market and you would notice absolutely no difference between your onboard sound (provided you got decent onboard sound) and a 200 dollar sound card. You can go ahead and continue to argue, but the more you argue against this the dumber you look. You can't into electrical interference.
>>317709801
Why are you upgrading your cpu after only 1 year? I built my computer 4 years ago for $750 and I can run fallout 4 1920x1080 @ medium settings with only 1gb of vram just fine.
>>317709801
>PC building
that's the problem, some people simply enjoy building computers but not gaming, my 600€ can play witcher 3 at 60fps without issues. Meanwhile my friends spend hundreds of euros every year to get over 100 FPS and they barely play 4 hours a week.
>>317710129
you buckle easily under stress, huh?
>>317707856
>gaming headphones
This was your mistake
>>317707724
>>317710129
>And the stress exists in picking the parts as well, not just building
Can't say I experienced that, thats the easiest part of the process. My sweating occurs when I'm installing and having to handle the parts, particularly the CPU cooler (especially when its sizable). And then afterwards if theres any problems - I'm technical enough that I can get along, but the majority of issues I've got no idea how to solve which means spending ages on google or begging smarter friends to help.
>>317709652
Kek, I did the same thing on my first build in highschool.
>Get everything perfect, no help aside from the manuals.
>Feeling proud as a lion that has a silky smooth mane and 10 mating partners.
>Monitors not working.
>Turn everything off, take everything apart.
>Put it back together, no changes.
>Do this three times.
>Remember that BIOS are a thing.
>Smash head into desk a few times.
>>317710226
Show me. No really, do it. Outside of BF deals, I have been using pc part picker, logical increments etc and cannot put together a decent PC that can run all/most things at high 1080 60 fps for less than a grand.
>buy CPU
>never changed CPU before so nervous
>nightmare images of bent pins in my head
>take old CPU out
>put new CPU in
>paste it up and lock it down
>turn on PC
>PC won't turn on
>start troubleshooting
>eventually find out my motherboard doesn't support the new CPU
>buy new motherboard
>accidentally ordered the wrong size (got a half-case sized mobo)
>send it back and order another one
>right size but doesn't align with the rear panel
>can't fit the faceplate in so I just leave it open
>reassemble my entire computer bit by bit
>turn it on
>it works
You don't need to be smart to upgrade a PC, just determined.
>spend over £800 on first build
>money I earned during a summer working some shit min wage job
>parts finally come
>putting it together watching tutorials on my phone
>takes a whole afternoon
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
>put everything together
>looks correct
>plug monitor, keyboard in etc
>finally pc gaming
>press on button
>nothing
>start shitting myself
>press it again
>nothing
>oh fug
>start panicking
>take build apart, double check everything is in its right place
>plug monitor and stuff back in
>press on button
>nothing
>what the fuck
>look down at my feet
>wasn't turned on at the mains
>laugh in relief, what an idiot I am
>turn the mains switch on
>press on button
>nothing
>panic resumes
>take build apart, put it back together
>about 1 in the morning now, I started about 3pm
>everything back together, mains switch on
>press on button
>nothing
>almost in tears at this point, emotionally exhausted
>look round the back to unplug the PSU in order to take build apart again
>realise the PSU was never switched on
>mfw
>>317710061
>be like 12
>for some reason all my elementary friends think I know shit about computers
>classmate tells me he has a problem with his 486 DX machine
>it was a soundcard or something, can't play Fallout 2 with no sound
>tell him I'll fix it no problem like a boss
>get to his house, we're alone there
>try installing drivers, it's the only thing I have any idea about
>doesn't help, can't admit defeat
>try wiggling the card around
>no luck
>d-don't worry anon I have an idea
>take card out
>turn computer on
>put card in
>it shuts down, a bit of smoke
>doesn't turn on again
>S-see you in class anon!
>bolt it out of there
>>317710247
Because I need to?
>>317710316
I use DJ headphones myself, its also an excuse for not having a mic.
>>317710296
Incredibly so.
I go to therapy to deal with it.
>>317710349
>thats the easiest part of the process
For some of the parts. Other parts it's a nightmare. Especially if you want to get a good deal
Unfortunately good deals in the PC component world don't exist since everyone uses the backwards jackoffery that is mail in rebates.
>>317710398
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
holy shit i did the same.
When was the last time you treated your PC to a nice upgrade?
>>317707724
>building first pc
>everything is going well
>cable from mobo not going into port on back of DVD drive
>remember advice from IT friend "you don't have to be too gentle, sometimes you need to apply some force"
>apply force
>broken DVD drive
Turns out I was inserting the cable upside down or something, I'm just glad I fucked up the cheapest component.
>>317710237
I get it. You're not an audiophile and you can't tell the difference between a telephone speaker and well resined catgut in an auditorium. I know your ears have no level of sensitivity but some of us are a bit higher on the evolutionary ladder.
Let's be honest, you're basically a consolefag.
>>317710371
i5 2500k
GTX 760
8gb DDR3 RAM
1tb 7200rpm Seagate HDD
Hyper 212 EVO cooler
Beyond that, buy whatever else floats your boat. I've been using this setup for years and it has yet to fail to get me 1080p/60fps with the exception of Arkham Knight, though I used the pre-patch pirate version.
>>317710038
electronic interference is a thing but the fact that good sound card USB or what ever will improve the sound so it is different from the on-boards sound. You can go fuck right off and stick you head up your deaf head ass. I'm am truly sorry if you have bad hearing.
>>317710398
>touching radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
Holy shit dude me too. All I heard from my friend was
>Watch out for that static bro
>Careful with the static man
>THE STATIC BRO WATCH THE STATIC
It didn't help I was building iton my carpet because nowhere else to. The rest of my experience wasn't too exciting though besides my hands constantly being sweaty
>mfw the entire time building
>buy headphones, finally ditch speakers
>"man this is so amazing, now I can listen and play anything without my family bitching about the loud explosions"
>"this is so much better"
>years of fun later
>"man these headphones sure are old and dirty now, better buy a new set
>buy new set, same brand, same type, same box, same everything
>sound feels dull and distant and weird compared to the old ones
Is it possible that my old headphones got fucked over in time and now they're the only one I'm accustomed using?
What the heck am I gonna do when they finally break down.
>>317710735
No offense but this looks like trash, doesn't even meet the min requirements of a lot of games, and doesn't factor in several other parts you need such as case and mobo which are also pricey
>>317710540
well, i hope you get better then.
>>317710862
>building it on the carpet
mate that is Evel Knievel levels of madness
>>317710398
>touching the radiator every 2 seconds because I'm scared of static shocks
tfw long as fuck hair and I do this all the time
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qvM96h
Rate my build /V/
>>317709652
I just ordered a custom build PC with a 980 6600k, might arrive friday.
>mfw using shitty toshiba tv as a monior
>Get an absolute SHIT pc, makes counterstrike look like minecraft, no exaggeration.
>Play games at LAN Cafe, see 60fps and high quality graphics
>Get video card for shit PC for birthday
I forget which one but it was prob like $200
>install in my computer, get nothing
I think in retrospect now I didn't have a PSU strong enough to run it, and I never trouble shooted it because I was a dumb kid.
>>317710038
what about EMI? It can be reduced and all it does is crackling and hissing. I don't see how it reduces the sound quality on a good sound card if you shield against it.
>buy computer parts
>stock CPU cooler makes a lot of noise
>70ºC on desktop
>SHIT
>go fucking nuts and buy a new cooler
>because of cheap case there isnt much space for new cooler
>install it without removing any pieces or cables
>dont have enough space to operate
>finally it is on place and locked
>watch my hand full of blood
>there is blood everywhere
>clean it, cross my fingers and press the power button
>it fucking works
>CPU 40ºC
>>317709801
My current PC:
4 years old i5-3570, still don't see any reason to upgrade it
4 years old mother board with 16 gb of DDR3 memory, upgrade isn't worth the cost
4 years hd7850 graphics card, considering to change to r9 380
6 years old chassis and 500w PSU
some 5 years old 500GB mechanical HDDs.
Didn't cost me more than $700 and runs fallout 4 at stable ~55 FPS on1280x720, I don't see any reason to be running it at higher res since it doesn't look any better when I'm streaming it
>>317710975
You do realize that most "minimum requirements" are inflated to push more pricey parts, right?
As for case, there are plenty of cheap models that offer decent space and airflow, and for mobos you mostly just need one that fits your CPU socket, not the most expensive ones.
>>317711138
Thanks for proving what I stated.
>install new graphics card
>plug everything in
>turn PC on
>everything looks weird and zoomed in
>must be new GPU underscanning
>go into CCC
>doesn't change anything
>try loads of online solutions, nothing works
>what the fuck
>assume new GPU is broken
>go to unplug everything to uninstall it and send it back
>had my HDMI plugged into the motherboard
>build multiple gaming PCs over the years
>keep buying graphics cards whose fans eventually start rattling and failing and which don't have replacements available because there are no standardized graphics card fan sizes
Even though I swore to myself to buy a third party GPU cooler that can mount standard 120mm fans this time, I bought a regular OC graphics card again at the beginning of the year, and the fans already rattle on load.
>>317711042
its shit
>>317708461
this is an awesome story. i like it.
>>317710961
Buying new headphones is awful for me. Almost as bad as getting a haircut.
Putting a PC together is fairly easy enough, the only part I really hate is case wiring. And installing coolers is a bitch.
>order a BenQ 1440p@60Hz screen
>they ship the wrong model and it's a more expensive 1440p@144Hz one
>plug it in
>spend the next 3 hours dragging windows around on my desktop and scrolling fast on websites because it's so silky smooth and great
They never called and asked for it back.
>>317711247
Isn't that just the dust accumulating under the fans? I had the same problem with my old card and solved it by applying some soft oil on the juncture between it and the fans. Rattling disappeared.
>buy supplies
>living on own, but really want to drop on this build
>parts come in, extra careful
>everything set in place
>hit power button
>it doesn't turn on
>hit it again after a while
>nothing>the power supply wasn't on
>>317711267
>says it shit with no evidence why
Pls
>Build PC for the first time
>Slice my palm open due to the sharp edges of the Mobo due to lack of experience with happening
>Blood spurts all over my components
>PC boots up on my first try putting it together>I learnt that virgin blood ritual is good for PC building
>>317711408
>spoonfeed me
>people afraid of static
lol
>mobo has a preinstalled cooler holder thing
>almost broke mobo in half while trying to take it off
>ram wouldn't fit in completely until I pressed it so hard mobo made a *CRACK* sound (and suffered 0 damage)
>accidentaly plugged HDD in SATA2 instead of 1 so I couldn't install OS for quite a while until I decided to poke around the cables
>can't do cable management because case limitations so had to gently tuck cables away from the radiator
>cooler broke after less than a day working (it works perfectly but it makes horrible sounds)
holy shit the fun I had
>>317711060
Waiting for same parts to arrive, but I'm using an old as fuckGateway monitor
>>317710862
Hate to sound like a normie, but your post made my day. Thanks m8.
>>317711239
>install new graphics card
>replace thermal paste on CPU while I'm at it
>plug everything in
>turn PC on
>no picture
>check motherboard
>RAM error LED blinks
>replug everything, no fix
>reinsert old graphics card, no fix
>after hours of research on tablet find some forum post saying to reseat the CPU and reattach the CPU cooler
>problem fixed
>read somewhere afterwards that if you tighten the CPU cooler too far on this particular model of mainboard, the RAM looses contact by a fraction of a millimeter
>Installing heatsink
>Lose a mounting screw from the box
>LOL whatever 3/4 screws is fine
>Try to complete mount
>Turn PC upright
>Heatsink falls over. Breaks thermal paste connection
>Spent days looking for the lost screw
>Needed to order more thermal paste
>>317710184
>>317710753
If you were smart you wouldn't have wasted your money on a sound card that provides zero difference from onboard sound. If you knew how electronic interference worked, you'd realize that sound cards are snake oil. They're still situated right in the middle of an electronic interference factory. No amount of shielding will eliminate interference. Literally, yes, your best bet is an external USB 3.0 DAC plugged into the front panel of your tower. It will still have electronic interference, there's no escaping that, but it will be barely noticeable if you buy a good one and set it up about a foot away from your tower. If you're going to spend 100+ dollars on some doohickey that cleans your sound, you should at least buy the one that actually works. Literally, you guys are the deaf ones here.
>>317710684
If you were a true audiophile, and not just some dumbshit pleb who got tricked into buying an internal sound card and is now coming here to shitpost about it because of your buyer's remorse, you would have bought a high quality external DAC and set it up properly. But nah, you're a pleb, and also a shitposter. Can't wait to hear your next sad excuse for an argument.
>>317711453
>seat mainboard into case -before- attaching the CPU cooler
>can't attach CPU cooler anymore
>seat mainboard into case -after- attaching the CPU cooler
>slice open your fingers in a striped pattern from the individual fins of the CPU cooler during fixing the mainboard screws and attaching various tiny cables in impossible places.
>>317711239
>AMD
>>317711138
>bought a cheap PC from a friend of my moms for 100€
>buy a cheap GPU for it
>year later upgrade the power supply and GPU to GTX650 for 150€ or something
>year later upgrade MOBO, CPU and RAM for 180€
>2 years later still run everything I want on medium 1080p/60fps
I don't see a reason to upgrade for years to come because I hardly even play AAA shit
>Pc doesn't boot
>check RAM
>check Mobo
>check power adaptator
>check everything
>dismantle it, clean everything
>check everything again
>surgically remove one piece at a time to see where the problem is
>unplug HD, both
>check power to see if it runs through, it does
>try everything possible
>pc still doesn't startThe start button was broken.
>buy computer components
>assemble everything laid out on desk to install software already because the case would arrive late
>end up accidentally dropping a screwdriver into the power supply fan, breaking off a wing and making it unstable, shaking the entire power supply, and the fan was some weird 135 mm format that you couldn't replace and you were afraid of your power supply not booting if you cut the fan cable so in the end you had to fix it in place with duct tape and then tape a case fan to the outside of the power supply
I'm curious, how many of you have melted a CPU or GPU by overclocking it?
>>317711170
That's awful advice. If you get a cheap shit mobo you're going to find yourself up shit creak in 2-3 years when you want to upgrade your CPU or basically anything. Buying some 150 mobo will save you having to buy another 80 dollar one in 2 years. I'd sooner buy a shitty GPU
>>317710862
>Building first computer after using a pre-built for years
>poured months of savings into it
>all the parts arrive, admiring those shiny ass boxes
>slowly and carefully begin assembling
>turns on first time
>begin applauding
>install OS
>plug in old harddrive
>everything is corrupt
my day was still ruined
I still use an x-fi 5.1 external card from creative even though onboard sound is all built in now. I just like the little bastard
>>317711816
I actually know this feel
>build first pc
>reuse old case from prebuilt
>I'm retarded so mobo is too big to fit with the psu in it's proper place
>velcro the psu down in the front end of the case and run the cable out through hole where the back of the psu is supposed to bethis just happened days ago actually, what could go wrong.
>>317711816
>Not checking that first by jumping the connectors on the mobo
Come on man. Every booting issue comes down to a few things. It is when your computer refuses to POST then it is an actual headache.
>>317711456
Hello 2014 summerfriend
>bought an exepnsive gaming pc
>2 months living from oatmeal
>get those vitamine deficiency signs people talk about
Worth to be honest lad
>get all the parts for my current pc delivered in 2011 (i5 2500k, 8gb ram, no gpu for now)
>put it all together in a CM 690 II Advanced case
>do light cable management right away so i don't have to unplug stuff when tightening it down later
>hit power, nothing happens
>ugh wtf!
>take a look inside, everything seems to be in order
>carry it to another outlet, plug it in, hit power, it boots up
>wtf man?
>carry it to the room that it's gonna be in for good, plug it in, hit power, no boot
>great
>get extension cord, plug it into next outlet a few meters away, it boots
>weird what it happening here?
>less that 1 year later psu doesn't want to start up unless the its' own power switch in the back gets flipped on and off repeatedly
>too annoying to deal with, get it replaced cause 7 year warranty
>replacement unit lasts less than 6 months, thx corsair, premium quality my ass
>say fuck them, don't rma'ing that shit & buy a different brand
>everything is back to normal
thanks again and fuck you very much corsair, never again
also
>same pc
>sound cuts out for ~1sec at random intervals
>try to ignore it for the longest time
>rage builds up when listening to music
>grrr no fuck this
>unplug pc case's internal connector for the front audio jacks
>sound never ever cuts out again
>everything went better than expected
still don't know whether to blame the mobo or the case wiring
>Buy new DDR
>Set it up
>Hit power button
>Sparks and a bit of smoke coming from the motherboard
>There was a gap in between the slot and one of the DDRs
>4 contacts ded
[/spoiler]>Still managed to set it up properly and it still works though system's loading times takes forever even without any memory-heavy processes set on start[/spoiler]
>>317708106
Don't even bother m8 it's a waste of time trying to explain it to people like that.
>>317711651
>tfw 6i6 for small time demoing and general fooling around
>using it for game sounds also
no regrets
>spent hours putting pc together
>drop gpu on the edge of the case
>small chip into the part that you insert into the mobo
>works fine
>>317711883
Most CPU and GPU have sensors that automatically switch the component off when it is overheating. It is over volting that fries it most of the time. I killed 2 GPUs that way once.
>>317711517
I think my tv can hit 1080p at 60Hz so it should be ok for now.
Not looking forward to having to switch my HDMI cable from my PC tomy PS3 to watch nteflix in bed.
>>317711992
I used a tool I had at house to see if the start button connectors worked, and they did.
I have no idea how to jump-start a pc without using the start button though.
>>317711247
>be me 9 years ago
>CPU noisy as fuck and hot
>test aftermarket sink+fan (thermaltake) $30
>still noisy
>test aftermarket sink+fan (cooler master) $30
>still noisy
>give up on it
>went to dreamhack, look around retailers setting up booths
>some guys selling cooling and modding stuff
>think what the heck and ask them about fan
>sells me an arctic cooling cpu sink+fan, $10
>what the heck, why not
>install
>cpu now runs cool and silent
>keep buying arctic cooling shit ever since
I've always bought either AC fans+sinks for GPUs or GPUs who had an partnership and came with their fans pre-attached. It's finally starting to get pointless as every other aftermarket cooling manufacturer have simply copied their designs.
Can you imagine that the current GPU dual fan + sink design started with people buying ACs passive GPU cooling sink and then strapping fans onto it using cable ties? Been using accelero twin turbo 2 for 4 years now and it's still running fine and shitall noise. twin turbo 3 is out now and its still the exact fuckingsame except with backplate added and increased product compability. Just don't buy AC case fans, since scythe slipstream and gentle typhoons are the best.
Still wondering if what I did is silly or not. Got a i7 4790K about a year ago and I'm using the stock heatsink instead of an aftermarket.
I helped my friend build his a month ago and he just got an i5 with a MONSTER heatsink. Who is silly here?
>>317711894
Mobo are based on chipset anyway. If I wanted to upgrade to skylark today, I have to replace my motherboard as well.
>>317711883
I'd never overclock. Seems dumb.
>>317711883
I ran a Q6600 at a ridiculously high voltage(forgot to set it back to normal or something I can't remember) for years with no problems.
>>317711883
I melted my north bridge twice though...everything stock master race with unlocked processor
>>317712117
>TV
>60Hz
>>317712117
you know it's just filling
>had a HD7770
>upgraded to GTX970
>hyped as fuck
>open case
>install card
>see two PSU pins instead of one
>look around, find another
>put everything together, then turn on PC
>monitor goes all weird, then nothing appears on screen and PC keeps rebooting
>shitting myself
>see PSU adapter in the box
>thought I just burned my new card
>turns out I just needed to upgrade my BIOS
Building a PC is fucking scary, that's why normies will always buy laptops and prebuilts. You know shit's wrong when it works on the first try.
>>317712174
Use a metal tip screwdriver and touch the two pins together? Come on man. This is basic circuit shit.
>>317710129
I have a business of making computers. What do you want to use it for? Gaming? Video editing? Office work?
>>317712230
That's what it says on the menu, probably shouldn't have spent all my money on an OP rig when my monitor is ass.
>>317712230
How's 2008 treating you?
>>317711883
Overvolted and overclocked my onboard graphics on an ancient Core 2 Duo home office PC once. Almost melted it. Screen flickered black, then an error popped up. Windows reset the voltage and OC on its own to save the onboard graphics chip from melting. It was pretty neat. Did it for fun and would never consider doing it with anything expensive tho.
>>317711042
Holy shit get a load of this billionarre
>>317711619
You're using too much thermal paste you dumb cock goblin. Thermal paste is to fill eventual gaps between whatever two things it connects together since it transfers heat better than dust or pockets of air. It doesn't magically make the CPU or GPU cooler just because it's named fucking thermal paste. Applying too much of it makes the cooling performance WORSE.
>>317712346
>What do you want to use it for? Gaming? Video editing? Office work?
We're on /v/, so good bet on gaming.
>>317712221
The Q6600s were something else, I fried two motherboards trying different setting with it and it still works up to this day >>317712224
I'm upgrading with the K6600 just because it fucking sounds the same.
>>317712219
Overclocking actually does help with older machines, provided you know what you're doing. It's good to squeeze more performance out of underpowered and/or dated hardware.
>>317712025
>bought an corsair PSU
toppest kek. Buying corsair PSUs is like buying razer anything. They're fucking infamous for overpricing their below average quality products that are made by shitty OEMs which they then stick their company name label on.
>>317712448
Show me a TV that even is under 60Hz. It's basically always been a standard.
>>317712547
>/v/
>playing actual games
>not pretending to play them but actually wasting all free time shitposting on games they aren't playing
>>317712547
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tynz3C
I suggest this.
>>317711651
I had a USB external audio thing but it kept not being recognized by the system every time I resumed from hibernation and being generally a pain to send audio to
>>317712213
Both of you. Him less so because at least he's making certain his cpu is cool
>>317712682
Can you find me an 80+ 650w for less than 50?
No rebate shit.
>>317712760
Well that sounds like your problem, nigger.
>>317712682
Only if you buy their "green" label crap.
I bet you actually bought a Rosewill
>>317712845
Cheaping out on a PSU is the best sure fire method of sending your computer to the grave.
>>317712682
What's a good PSU?
I had thermaltake and enermax and they both died, I'm using corsairs now and I have another computer running with an OCZ PSU with absolute no problems so far since 5 years
>>317712750
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tynz3C
>seagate HDD
>no PSU
>intel and not a samsung SSD
>buying windows
>20almostfucking16
>DDR3 memory
the a.b.s.o.u.t.e madman
>DDR3 memory
>>317712682
>razer anything
Hey man Deathadder 2013 is pretty alright. I wouldn't trust any of their other shit but that mouse hasn't disappointed me yet
>>317712750
>over a grand
I guess that guy who said you pay over a grand or get shit quality was right.
Here's what just happened to me.
>have custom PC thay runs everything on high - max
>4 years in and suddenly my fps in everything starts gradually going down
>Not just shit like Witcher 2, but pleb games like LOL even start to lag
> no clue what the problem is
>upgrade graphics card and ram since I was due anyways
>0 results
>for over the span of 2 weeks I try everything including wiping my hard drive, getting a new hard drive, downloading every fucking driver known to man, endless searches nothing
>autism kicks in and I want my fucking vid ya
>ready to bite the bullet and buy new motherboard and cpu, shits already in my shopping cart on newegg
>friend suggests I try my other PCI slot
>don't even get my hopes up, but it works
>glorious 60 fps at high settings on everything again
>immediately went from worst of my friends at rocket league thanks to low settings and fps spikes to one of the best
Still not sure how or why and I still feel dumb for not trying it first, but at least I didn't burn almost 300 bucks.
>>317711651
and what does that interference do? How will that affect the sound?
For some fucking reason I still don't understand ordering a custom built PC was cheaper than all the parts on their own from newegg. Even similar parts so try to bring the price down still had a greater total price.
>Pick parts
>Place order
>Save money
>Get PC
>It fucking works
>3 weeks later
>Burning smell while playing arkham knight (I could actually run it at release somehow)
>Have to send it back
>Pick it up a week later
>Mobo, PSU, Cooling, and GPU were all replaced for free
>Feelsgood
It's so much better than building my own. I couldn't tell exactly where the smell was coming from and apparently they couldn't either so they just replaced a bunch of crap. If I had built that on my own I would've been fucked trying to figure out what to send back.
>>317712926
No one mentioned cheaping out, though.
>>317712682
that particular psu got good reviews pretty much everywhere though and seasonic is not exactly a 'shitty' oem. but i can't argue the subpar performance after what happened. it was the ax 750 btw.
the whole rma'ing the thing, not being able to use my desktop only to have it happend again after about 6 months really turned me off. i still have the faulty unit around. just need to send it in to get a new one and then sell that off.
>>317712845
What do you need a 650w PSU for? It's not needed even if you're running two graphics cards or overclocking. Heck, in most cases it's not even needed when you're running 2 graphics cards. EVGA Supernova <insert letter>2 <insert wattage you need> costs 80$ or so and is close to top tier in quality.
>>317712750
>seagate
NOT
EVEN
ONCE
I bought 4mb of ram once. It was one stick.Of course you'd need matching pairs.
>>317713212
I don't, but the stated claim was corsair is overpriced. I can get a corsair PSU, exact wattage and shit I stated, for the price I just stated. And no one seems to be able to price match that here.
Ergo, corsair isn't overpriced.
>>317713212
OC 290x and a CPU will easily take 550~ watts.
>>317709740
>PC sometimes takes 30 seconds to POST
>Can hear PSU cycling during this
>Boots in seconds after POST due to SSD
>Have replaced PSU but still does it
>Constantly paranoid
Every IT guy has to start somewhere.
>around 10 yo
>trying to install Bionicle : the game
>not starting, CD needed
> install it once again
>one more reinstall ( still didnt used the crack)
>give up then decide to uninstall manually
> go into windows folder
>so many files without icons, delete them
>even clear the bin, go to sleep
>morning: need boot CD
also
>jsut got my PC, core2 Duo 2,66ghz, r3770 passive cooling ( my sister chose it...)
> my friend is kinda poor, only have a P4 and a 9800pro, something is fucked up in his PC
>" give it to me, i'm gonan fix it"
>on that day open it up, detach the cooler and pull out the CPU - dunno why
>trying to put it back, fuck up the pins
>put it back fast like nothing happened
>my sister checks it up ( she was at an IT shop),
> I didnt tell i fucked up the pins, so she get an another P4 and make my friend pay for it
> I remained silent
>also a long ago i stole yellow lego rocks from him :(
>>317713078
It shows up as that background hiss, or crackling, or just general static. You will still notice it even with a high-end sound card. You may even still notice it with a high-end external USB 3.0 DAC/AMP. There is no way to eliminate it 100%, just suppress it and clean the signal as best as you possibly can.
>>317713017
I thought I put a PSU in there. Thanks. I'll fix that after class.
>buying windows
I'm trying to run a respectable business here. I can get it for cheaper than $140, but like hell am I breaking the law in the big leagues.
Speaking of class, if you have some witty response you better make it in 7 minutes because I need to bolt.
>>317712213
My CPU heatsink is overkill.
I've had it for at least 5 years and when I look closely at it, only the first 3 of it's 64 plates are tarnished in anyway I don't think the heat has gotten past that, I've never seen it's heat rise above 24°C.
Still, I figure there's no harm in playing it safe.
>>317713351
Do you have a lot of shit connected to your motherboard?
Multiple ram slots filled? etc etc
>>317713384
Not him, but why even bother with all this when the guy you originally replied to stated getting others to build it would cost him hundreds more than building himself, and then proving him completely right?
>>317712813
But do I need one? I'm not overclocking and my temps are always great.
>>317713475
DVD Drive
1 HDD
2 SSDs
2 Ram slots used out of 4
>>317713106
Must be good to be in a country with actual support. My story:
>be hue
>build a PC for my little brother
>parts arrive, start working on it
>brother is fucking hyped
>build everything carefully
>PC turns on, no image
>spent two days troubleshooting, dad also helping
>no luck, sent all parts back to the store
>almost a month later replacement arrive
>didn't have most parts in stock, so they sent "similar" parts
>everything is completely inferior
>mobo isn't even compatible
>>317713143
>No one mentioned cheaping out, though.
and I wasn't either. the psu in this story >>317712025 was a ax 750. it's gold rated, fully modular, 7 year warranty and cost like at least 120 euros. definitely marketed as a premium product and reviewed well, so i thought i boulght something solid. but i got two duds in a row. that looked like a bad pattern to me. went with another brand and that is working now.
>>317713562
UEFI or Legacy boot?
Do you have an external HDDs attached when you boot your PC?
Proper boot order?
>>317713625
UEFI,
External USB HDD + KB+M are only devices connected.
>Build my first PC.
>Get all parts right.
>Motherboard wont lock the CPU in
>Have to use a lot o arm strength to close that spring lock.
>Pretty sure it bent some pins
>After 3 years, never had any problem.
But seriously, the tension booting it up the first time was big.
>>317713559
If you're temps are good then you're aces man. Sure it's better to be safe but who cares if you don't NEED it
>>317713556
I don't know man, I've looked into it and aside from the OS, it's not like he has friends in high places to get RAM for a nickel.
I'd say about $75 more.
>>317710975
Dude I'm rocking a HD6870 and a Phenom II quad core from half a decade ago, still runs most modern games on low/med. Minimum specs are fucking lies.
>>317713710
Try disconnecting the external USB HDD when booting. For the longest time, I had fucked up POST issues because I left my WD HDD attached when I booted. Turns out that brand of WD HDD has been known to cause issues that some have been able to solve by turning off USB legacy. Didn't work for me.
>>317713621
I don't care how "dead" it'll make my PC. Spending that much on a PSU is nuts.
>>317713474
I have that same heatsink and I've been using it since 2011, it's pretty great
>>317713218
I have the same seagate 500gigs HDD for about 5-7 years, cant even remember.
Never had a single problem, but always backup my shit. People tell me that it is a clock bomb.
>>317713218
what's wrong with seagate
>Mfw I took the standoffs off the first time and finding out what they're for
>>317713373
Right.
I have a ASUS XOnar Essence STX which claims to have a signal to noise ratio of 124dB. I can turn my speakers up to maximum and still not hear any hiss or crackle.
Are you saying that onboard sound has the same SNR as soundcards because that's a load of bollocks desu.
I will admit if you're a proper audiophile you'll have a seperate amp connected via HDMI to your PC or w/e but they're expensive. I think a decent soundcard provides a good middle ground.
>>317713798
OS+75=over 200=plural hundreds
>>317713848
Thanks will try that. It's Western Digital too.
>>317713920
Seagate had a very shit 2014 where they had the highest harddrive failure among all the brands.
>>317713384
If you're going to SELL pcs then pick either Win 8 or 10 home. As if the morons who buys prebuilts are going to go for lmao outdated windows.
>>317713197
AX750 should've been good. But if I'm to google it now I get a bunch of results of forum posts about people having problems with theirs. Sounds like warning signs to me considering how they're supposed to be "top of line premium quality".
Seasonic PSU should *generally* be good, true.
>>317713804
And I'm running fairly new parts from like 3 years ago and can't even get solid 60 FPS in games like TF2
On medium settings
>>317713851
true. they successfully turned these things into marketable products for gamers or something. like fucking gpus. it's stupid.
>>317713947
Nigga. I. Told. You. I. Can. Get. The. OS. For. Less. Than. 1. 4. Dee.
By the way I'm out of time so feel free to call me nigger or something because I won't read it. Time for finance.
>dad builds pc after i move away
>1 new voicemail when i wake up
>"anon i need help it keeps asking for the any key. I can't find it"
>laugh and go about my day
>new email next morning
>picture of his screen asking for any key
>being that clueless
>First PC
>Buy a case from a non-Newegg website
>Case comes with a free 500W Power Supply, model is named "Demon"
>Case and PSU arrive in the mail
>PSU is pretty light, almost like a toy
>Think nothing of it
>Proceed to installing my MoBo and parts\
>Turns on for a mere second and powers down
>Panic
>Ask for helpon Gaia
>Nothing helps
>Ask my Computer Hardware teacher for guidance
>Nothing helps
>Spend money on a new MoBo
>Spend money on a new PSU
>PC finally boots up
>Always vow to spend the extra dollar on a PSU name I can trust like Antec or Corsair since that incident
>>317708747
2^6 x 2=128
>>317709626
i know that feel
back in 2010 i bought a intel i7 980x. wasted $1,000 on a processor that i never used for its full potential. i paired it with a 470. yes, a 470.
i should of gotten a i7 960 or even a i7 930 / 940 and pared it with a 480 or even 470 sli.
>>317714058
rude of you for not helping
>>317714037
You're doing it wrong somewhere in there.
>>317713894
>>317707724
bought a 1TB seagate a few years back
TWENTY DAYS later, it bricked. Just fucking died out of no where, made clunking head sounds etc
Research it
Find out this particular seagate has some weird issue and OVER 60% fail rate within 6 months, and tons of other people had the same issue I did
Send it back
They send me the same faulty piece of shit type of harddrive, but refurbished, because clearly I paid full retail price for a refurbished model.
My second negative brush with seagate was buying a 1TB back up with "seagate dashboard agent". The thing is so fucking difficult to use, so fucking stupid, and so inuntuitive that I am actually considering buying a new backup just to save me headacvhes, even though this one "works"
>bought a 212 evo with my computer in march
>haven't put it on because it seems way too heavy for it to hang horizontally off my motherboard
>>317714020
by extension of what happend with the corsair model i am now warry of seasonic as well. although i never had one that read seasonic on the outside, the ax 750 i think was just a rebranded model of theirs. there really was not corsair design in there to begin with i think. both exhibited a bit of coil whine as well. just not a good product overall.
>>317714262
>paired*
Remember to check crystaldiskinfo if you haven't this week. Don't want a harddrive failing.
>>317714279
you think the evo is heavy try a d14 / d15.
use the evo. its NO WHERE NEAR heavy. its one of the lightest heatsinks you can get and it performs amazing for the price.
I have a quite old GTX660 TI. I also done fucked and bought the one with nvidia stock sink. It sucks.
Dont have money for a decent aftermarket sink.
Are those 10 bucks chinese gpu heatsink + fan trustworthy?
>>317714039
It's also mostly bullshit. 4 years ago everyone said just get a decent 80+ certified psu and you're fine. Suddenly today everyone is going on how you need a SPECIAL GAYMEN 6000W 80+ TITANIUM 4000 DOLLAR PSU or your PC is going to explode in two days from the awesome power of your singular mid range GPU and I5
>>317713998
>tfw bought Seagate 1tb HDD 2 years ago
>this year it starts having problems
>computer stops recognizing it
>eventually set it to work again by switching around SATA cables
>upon turning on my PC it was recognized for about 5 minutes before disappearing again
>trying to access any files on that drive would cause serious lag
>manage to start running a defrag after resetting 10 times
>it works normally again
>repeat 3 months later
>I have to defrag my drive every 1-2 months, otherwise it gets fucked
>drive now shows up as "null, unidentified hard drive" in Speccy
>>317713920
easily the most unreliable
don't let that one person who says "durr I've had a seagate drive for 8 years and it worked fine that means every drive is perfect hurr"
just spend the extra 10-20 dollars more and get a WD black, probably the more reliable.
>>317712732
Most SDTVs from Europe and Australia
>>317714279
That's why the backplate exists you numbnuts. Granted, the mounting system is ass.
>>317714270
That or some part is bugged/broken as per the two dozen horror stories in this thread about weird PC problems that took weeks to figure out.
>>317714279
don't be stupid, i have pic related and i have carried that thing around too. it'll be fine
>>317710684
>audiophiles
>>317714486
Why not just buy a new 1tb drive. Come on 1tb drives are cheap as fuck now.
>>317713930
I'm telling you that if you bought a decent enough motherboard, yes, there's no difference between onboard sound and an internal sound card. No amount of shielding on the card will ever eliminate the interference, and as such, it's a waste of money. If you're going to buy a doohickey to clean your audio signal up, you should at least buy the one that works best, otherwise you're a straight up pleb and a retard, end of discussion.
>>317714527
>cooler is bigger than the case
>come into some money
>want to build a PC finally
>find out PC's nowadays cost like 500 more than my budget
Oh well, at this point no amount of FPS or resolution seems worth a 400% cost increase over a PS4
>>317714527
>Giant Saw Thing
>>317714425
so it is supposed to just be completely suspended by the motherboard
goddamn building this computer in the first place as already so nerve wracking the mb didnt screw in every single slot for some reason and the gpu didnt perfectly fit in ruiahrariojiojg
>>317714527
But why?
>>317714279
Got a Hyper TX3 (almost hits the case limit) and thought the same. Actually it was fucking hell 'cause my case is crampled and the pins would never fit. Always one or two pins fucked, then having to take it off, fix and redo. Took like an hour just to insert the cooler.
I'm glad everything worked out in the end, but it was scary to see the pins bending for some reason I don't know.
>>317714583
>let me tell you about your ears
>>317714554
>audiophile
>digital audio medium
Nope. Real audiophiles use records
>>317714580
I did, but I am still keeping this drive for as long as I can.
>>317714554
They're worse than wine tasters. honestly.
>>317714554
>he's getting a blowjob under the table
>>317714272
My friend has the worst luck with computers out of anyone i know. He buys a new one and its fucking up left and right within a month. His last laptop wouldnt run shit so he gave it to me for free and got a new one. Now his old one is running everything splendidly for me, and his new one fucks up the hdmi output, the power adaptor makes noise, and the keyboard sometimes has ghost inputs. Hell the one he gave me sometimes outperforms his new one.
And his desktop has been a mess since he got it.
>>317714554
What is wrong with him?
>>317714674
Nice greentext reply. Doesn't change the fact that you're a pleb. Here's your (You).
>>317712937
Component quality, Efficiency, Voltage Regulation, Ripple, Fan quality.
Component quality - speaks for it self. Shit breaks easily.
Efficiency - poor ones gets hot and causes faster degradation
Voltage regulation - stability
Ripple - in simple terms shit generated that disrupts slowly destroys rest of your PC components
Some manufacturers makes better PSUs than others.
>>317714832
Thanks for the (You) desu
>>317711883
I had an 8800GT melt itself
>>317714779
See stories like this just make me want to stick with consoles. PC's sound like a giant fucking gamble. Either you strike gold or you get a massiv whammy and are out over a grand on something that barely outdoes a console that costs less than a quarter what it costs.
Not to mention constant problems that spring up, and how difficult troubleshooting PC problems can be
>>317713998
>>317714486
>>317714495
>just built a new pc with a seagate hdd
>>317714652
what?
pics of your guts for we can see?
>>317714754
Pretty much any faggot who claims to be some sort of hauty elitist about something is a faggot.
>You're not REALLY enjoying that because you're not doing it like I do
>>317707724
>Buying a Geforce 4 mx440 64Mb at any point in your life is grounds for ridicule.
>>317715020
This is why I always laugh at keks like you that try to save money so badly you don't even look at the quality.
Reviews are there, do the research.
>>317714520
I'd recommend trying to fix that asap.
Start reseating shit and downloading drivers yo. Mines 5 years old and I'm bouncing between Rocket League, Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 like it's nothing.
>>317714554
I work with music and I wish it was just like that. These guys live in a different world than musicians and listeners.
>>317715020
I don't get this, I've had a Seagate drive for 4 years and haven't had a single failure.
Are people carrying their PCs next to industrial magnets or something?
>>317714272
Oh and to add, the shit refurb they sent me died 2 years later
>>317715020
My 60GB Seagate HDD in my Sony Vaio lasted 15 years
>>317707856
>gaming headphones
>>317715037
i'm not at home, but basically the motherboard is screw in fine to my case except for one screw on the top left having to be half screwed in at an angle
similarly, the gpu fits in fine but the part with the hdmi sticking out doesn't screw into the case
its been working fine mostly but it slightly worries me in regards to the stability of this thing
case is a fractal design define r5 btw
>>317715158
The amount of time that takes just isn't worth it to me. We're talking a week of legitimate WORK just to get shit to functional again. Might as well just buy a new PC,.
