Where were you when Killing Floor 2 was kill?
>game has been in early access for 7 months
>updated twice in that time period
>tripwire was too busy working on ways to jew everyone out of their money
http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/
>>317700551
How can they be so money grubby with KF1 and 2, but update Red Orchestra 2 with free content years after, and keep it microtransaction-free?
I guess "why" is the better question; do they just not really care about KF?
>>317701209
>>317700551
I see the same response with this as being "KF1 HAD DLC THAT WAS SKINS AND STUFF AND YOU DIDN'T COMPLAIN"
but that's very different to microtransactions / crates and shit. Not to mention that it's still in EA, we're still waiting for the next big update (gunslinger) and there's no news on that.
Even the fucking workshop is only for skins to be sold back to us and not for maps or anything.
Thanks tRIPwire!
why do you faggots hate weapon skins and hats so much?
>>317701209
Most RO2 new content was made by community. Maps, new vehicles.
Also I heard somewhere that recently they outsourced it, hence they finally updated the game and fixed kick voting (took them a year or something) and actual new map is coming up.
>>317702319
Don't they have any other things to do? Like... I don't know... Finishing the game?
This makes the whole situation looks bad.
>>317702319
Because they implemented it when the game is not even close to be completed, it still miss the final boss, they didn't added the Sharpshotter or any new perk that they announced (GUnsliger still have be implemented) and they choose the microtransiction by using "crate key" system, which make the community even more cancerous and the jew community will pick up and inflate skin's prices and item to their benefit
Jesus fucking christ. Please tell me this is just a joke.
>>317703636
http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/
>the best part is
There is a best part?
Not to mention they can't even balance perks right.
>zerker was straight booty at release
>now it can practically solo the game
Fucking hell get in the official forums, they're considering getting gameplay-changing items in this crates system if that's what players want. I haven't touched this game in months due to their lack of updates and consistent news, but I at least want a good game by the end of this from the investment I made earlier this year, we need stop them
>>317704881
And judging from how half of the community who bother to make a forum account are drones defending this stupid update, it's very likely
They even recognized people didn't like cosmetics before
And yet they can still be so wrong
>Enjoy Killing Floor
>get hyped as fuck that is getting a sequel and apparently the developers learned from their mistakes (the borked game launches) and are willing to do an EA just to polish the game, they claim they finally have the money to make the game the way they want without additional funds
>I love the way it looks and the new features
>play the beta
>enjoy the game, music, graphics, gameplay of course, the blood, the enemies, the better matchmaking and interface
>but decide to hold on buying it since it still lacks a lot of features which should come soon
>7 months later
>still in EA
>still lacking basic content
>they wasted time adding an economy when the game is not even done yet
Why?
Only one way to keep donating to Anita's patreon.
>>317700551
>developers working on DLC instead of properly finishing the game
Why am I not surprised.
I could bet my hand that they'll pull a minecraft and do a full release despite the game being an unfinished buggy mess.
First Payday, and now this.
I'm glad I didn't cave in and buy this gameKF1 is better anyways
from last nights thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tS_V65380
>>317700551
>That avalanche of negative reviews in the Store Page
Tripwire really picked a bad time to unveil this, with all the Payday 2 backlash
They keep saying they'll only sell cosmetics, but people are apparently not to happy with them adding this merchant shit to the game they already paid for and that's still so far from being content-complete
kek'd
>>317707347
oops, meant to quote
>>317706816
OPERTAION REFUND KILLING FLOOR 2
NOVEMBER 24th, 2015
EVERYONE SUBMIT REFUNDS AT 4PM PST/7PM EST
WE WILL SEND A MESSAGE
>>317706816
>they implemented this shit late
>can't refund because i brought it on EA launch
>>317708278
Same exact situation, brother. Don't even have two hours played because none of my KF1 bros bought it either.
$40 down the fucking drain.
So glad I didn't buy this piece of shit
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>>317708348
Refund, tonight
Its easy. If everyone does it, it will send a message. Just like Batman Arkham Knigh
PCUCCS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>mfw i dont care and ill still play the game but watching this shitstorm is fun
>>317700551
so glad i refunded this shit game
REFUND TONIGHT
>Overwatch just announced to be paid with microtransactions
>Now this
How can PeeKooks even live with this shit?
Killing Floor 2 has equal the classes KF1 had at its release, more maps, more guns. If you want, just tell yourself KF2 is officially released now. It's not like these microtransactions are going to affect the game any.
Their excuse was that making the micro-transactions didn't hurt the development time because different roles in the team.
How believable is this? Are other early access games updating this slowly too? It seems fishy.
>>317709131
>If you want, just tell yourself KF2 is officially released now.
You're a literal vidyakek
"Just tell yourself an open relationship is the same as a regular one"
This is pretty much TW's only way of getting the funds to supply free maps after the game is finished, but it's quite a shame that they started this in early access
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G17YVrLGmEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFE2pOImzY
>>317709287
TWI's new maps are shit. Nobody plays on catacombs/manor. They also definitely spend way too much time on the details in those maps.
>>317709287
This.
Cosmetic DLC was completely inevitable. I'm just worried how the game's community is going to change. TF2, CSGO, and Payday 2 are fucking awful thanks to the kind of players an economy encourages.
>>317709131
>It's not like these microtransactions are going to affect the game any.
From the update
>>Your guns will continue to fire with exactly the standard 100% gory satisfaction guaranteed, with no effect to your combat statistics OR performance. AND the proceeds will enable us to send you to new and ever-more exotic locations in which to exterminate the Zed menace.
It affects it when they release new maps, based on how much people spend on microtransactions.
Who /pending/ here?
>tfw you fell for the early access meme
>never ever buy early access games because I know its jewery at its finest
>buy killing floor 2 last month after much deliberation
>rationalize it to myself by saying that Tripwire is a good company, and I can trust them to not abuse my trust.
Is this what it feels like to get keked?
>>317709094
>Overwatch
>with microtransactions
Source
>>317709447
It's like everyone forgot that 4/5 of the skins in KF1 had to be paid for. What else did everyone expect? At least they're purely cosmetic
>>317709481
/denied/ reporting in.
>>317709584
Aren't the later "heroes" going to be paid?
>>317706370
Hahahah.
Don't buy/play this game.
These people are cancerous.
>>317709483
>mfw
>>317709648
My condolences. If you can, put in another request.
>>317709131
they already affected the game by delaying the actual promised content so they could work on implementing microtransactions you baiting piece of trash.
post yfw you bought killing floor 2
>>317709781
>mfw I got KF2 DDE as a free gift
>>317709665
They've said nothing about post-release content. Please don't spread rumors or misinformation.To be fair, Blizz will probably announce a cosmetic store sometime after release, or it'll be like Evolve (I hate drawing that parallel here but its the best example) in that the store just shows up in the full release. But, I'm confident that there won't be any game changing microtransactions and they won't charge for maps. Addition characters...I hope not.
Once again hiding behind the "cosmetic" excuse. I miss being able to unlock cooler looking things in games. However, I mostly forced myself to accept cosmetic microtransactions in games. But then these fucks have to take it one step further.
Payday 2 microtransactions add stats. Killing Floor 2's don't add stats but they actually took time away from development to add content that's locked behind a paywall when the game is technically not even complete, even though people have already paid in full.
Seriously thinking about trying a refund here, but I've had the game for almost a year and have 14 hours into it so I doubt it will go.
>>317709909
You get free drops and the content is community-made
>>317709665
>>317709862
Also, there's an official vote somewhere about wanting the game to be "Free (like DotA 2)" or paid. I have no photo or link to. Check >>>/vg/overwatch
>>317709909
>they actually took time away from development to add content that's locked behind a paywall when the game is technically not even complete
They've been saying that they're using a separate team to make the cosmetic shit.
>>317709702
17 hours played and JUST got my refund.
>>317709862
Like you said, you can be sure there's going to be some kind of market thing. Even if they're not talked about it, I wouldn't put selling heroes past Blizzard, they're probably the most jewish company after EA, Overkill and whoever was in charge of Evolve.
>>317709982
Crates are free drops, keys are not.
>i take my video games VERY seriously
>>317709781
i'm not even mad; just disappointed in Tripwire
>>317710006
so they say and look here we are 7 months later.
>>317709648
>tfw "over 2 hours"
Why the fuck do I even spend money on video games anymore.
>>317710073
Crates AND skins just like CS:GO
The drops is a way to add hours into the game, as if leveling up perk was enough now you have "random drops" to keep you hooked.
Wonder if they saw this on the new warhammer game and wanted to try the same.
But still adding this after the huge payday shitstorm makes no sense.
>>317709781
>>317706370
REMINDER!
>>317710050
2k, the publishers of bad sports games and BioShock.
>>317710113
What's the point of crates, then? Are only basic/not as cool looking skins available as straight drops?
>>317710093
That only applies to released games. This is early access, state that in your plea.
>Trading Floor
>zedconomy
Why
>>317710006
why would there be a separate team to make cosmetics? why would that team not be put to work on the promised content BEFORE working on cosmetics? it doesn't matter if there's a "separate team" working on it. the point is none of their resource at all should be working on shit like this whatsoever when they're seven fucking months behind schedule.
>>317710242
>>317710260
I did, they don't give a fuck. Why should they, they already have my money.
>someone actually came up with the name "zedconomy"
>>317710093
Ask for a refund anyways.
I was refunded evolve with over 10 hours played
>>317710260
Well in CS;GO you can get a unique drop but those are pretty rare.
>>317707554
Can we please?
>>317710532
Apparently people are submitting refunds over on leddit and getting them already
>"we n-need more money guys!!!"
>>317710080
Didn't you learn from RO2?
>>317700551
>OH NO
>SKINS AND COSMETIC DLC IN A MULTIPLAYER GAME
>THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE
>HOW UNEXPECTED
>>317710441
It was the reason for their denial, I only played 6 hours.
>>317710829
Submit it again. Make sure you choose "My reason is not listed" so you don't automatically get filtered
>>317709781
>tfw KF2 is the only EA game that i bought because i loved KF1
>this happens
>>317706816
I'm dying
>>317710816
>you're not allowed to be mad when people shit up a game you like because people shit up games like that all the time
Yeah, nah, fuck you.
>>317709781
I played the closed beta and I still sort of want to buy it.
I don't think I'll ever pay more than $10-$15 for it though
>>317710927
That's exactly what I did, I gave them a nice paragraph about how I bought a full game and there was nothing about microtransactions up till now.But that's a decent idea, maybe if I just spam them enough they'll fuck off.
>>317710941
>7 months ago
>hahaha it's killing floor what can go wrong??! hahaha ????
>>317711049
Oh no, I agree, it's shitty, but everybody who played KF1 knew that this was going to happen because KF1 had a FUCKLOAD of cosmetic DLC
>>317709781
>gunplay is literally the best in the industry
>all they need is release some real content already and it will be the best FPS
>they do microtransactions
>mfw
I submitted a refund request and it got denied, am I shit out of luck if I bought it back in April?
Developers can get away with anything by now. People should be outraged, I just dont get it
>>317711173
not him but I would be fine with DLC cosmetic packs because then I wouldn't have to deal with jewish steam market where the items will be seriously overpriced
>>317711302
This, visually/gameplay wise the game is fucking insane, I never saw so much wasted postential.
>>317711152
>mfw i was one of the people parroting that
>>317711446
>visually the game is fucking insane
Not a Battlefront thread, mate.
>buy KF2
>have legit fun with it. Animations are great (fuck me those reloads), soundwork is top notch, levels are pretty cool, guns handle great
>get excited for when the game has more than barebones content
Why. I'm not even that angry just why. Their management has to be fucked in the head.
>>317711306
I am but it doesn't fucking matter, they made $30 off me and there's nothing I can do about it. I can send them as much negative feedback I can and it's just pissing in the ocean.
>>317709781
>>653577977
NOOOOOOOO GODDAMN IT WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME
>>317709781
their devs that religiously follow anita shouldve been the red flag
>>317706370
There isn't much wrong in there. It all boils down to the fact that they don't realize that women like to play as sexy female characters just as much as men.
I'm glad there will never be a bikini character in KF2, it doesn't fit the theme and is stupid. And the objectification of women in video games is not even close to the "dark marks" of game development, considering all the scam games that come out of EA and Kikestarter.
Most of what he said made alot of sense and I'm glad he plans to keep a unified theme to the game outside of holidays.
>7 hours played
>cannot refund
god damnit
>>317705193
Well that's because if you say something negative you get banned. I commented on a WWAUT saying that I didn't give a fuck about cheivos that I'd be unlocking instantly because the game has been out for seven months with only a single update so I've already done all the shit to get those achievements. That instead they need to work on more fucking perks. Boom. Banned. First time I'd ever posted anything on steam at all.
tRIPwire has created a hugbox forum.
>support will never be a god tier perk again
JUST
>>317711880
Submit return, I just got mine with over 2 hours
ez pz
Just make sure to select "My reason is not listed" so it doesn't get automatically filtered out
Guys, I was told this update speed is normal for Eearly Acc games. Is that true? I haven't bought other EA games.
>can't refund because I played the closed beta for 20 hours and the hours carried over into the game's stats
my reason for asking for a refund:
The Developers of the game are selling Downloadable content before the early access has even been completed yet. As a consumer i expect to be provided the complete game to be sold to me when i purchase it, and have the choice to buy further content after the game's initial release or for special promotionals. tripwire interactive has decided to withold content from the game purposefully which was not part of the initial purchasing agreement, where I pay for the game's eventual completion in it's entirety without the developers witholding content, and therefore have broken the initially intended financial contract. As a result, I believe the purchase to be null and void and therefore desire a refund
any good? should I change it a bit?
>>317712235
na nan naa
>>317711880
>>317707554
>>317708278
>>317710093
if they deny it, use classic steam support and complain until they refund it
>>317706370
>"objectification of women in video games is one of the dark marks on the industry as whole"
But apparently he has no problem with mictrotransactions that is literally the cancer that is killing video games. It's also weird how he's super puritan about pixel titties, but ultra violence with blood and gore flying all over the place is A-OK.
He also seems to think that wimmin folk will faint from the slightest peek of cleavage or something. Women like half-nude women just like men like half-nude men, and vice versa. Men in loincloth, men in ripped clothing, men with six packs and rock hard pecs etc. they have never "scared men away" from vidya, and I highly doubt any normal sane woman would be offended by virtual nudity like Anita and her friends are.
I enjoyed the first KF and was really excited to get the second one when Igot a jobbut seeing the lack of content and it still being in EA has really put me off.
Why do nice things always have to be ruined /v/?
>Try to request a refund a second time
>Gets denied again
I think it's over for me, I'm hesitant to submit anymore requests since it'll look suspicious.
>>317712235
Early access you fucking moron.
>>317712569
More suspicious than this scam of a game?
Valve should just give automatic refunds and remove this shit off steam
>>317711960
did you give any info or did you just pick "my issue is not listed" and hit submit?
>>317712569
Go through regular steam support route. Make sure to specify that your issue for refund is not listed and explain in detail.
>>317712754
I wrote a bunch of info explaining how the devs betrayed their audience.
>>317711823
You pretty much missed the point.
Feels bad. I will do it every day til they finally give in.
>>317712569
I don't even give a fuck, I'm just going to keep spamming requests, what are they going to do? Take the game away from me? Good that's what I wanted in the first place.
>>317712687
>>317712772
I'll try it
>>317712864
no, seriously?
>>317712903
thanks for your last two digits nigga
Jesus christ, why does every game have to do this crate bullshit now?
I got a refund with 21 hours playtime. Just argue that they added a previously unannounced, additional layer of monetisation that substantially detracts from the value of the purchased product, while simultaneously failing to deliver the promised content within a reasonable timeframe.
Thank me later.
>>317713071
Make sure the refund goes back to my card ending with 51.
>people being OUTRAGED that this game doesn't finish itself within a week for free
The sad thing is: Most of you are probably adults. A teenager has an excuse because he is retarded by definition.
Do something productive with your time.
>>317713187
willdo
>>317713238
>>317713238
>A teenager has an excuse because he is retarded by definition.
This was funnier than it should be
>>317713238
Hi Tripwire. Be productive with your time and release actual updates.
>>317701209
>Free content
AHAHA GOOD ONE
90% of the content we've been given was made by the community. 6 years later and RO2 STILL has less content than RO1. The game has hundreds of bugs and several of the official maps have huge exploits like clipping through the wall on fallen fighters and going outside the map on rakowice. Tank maps have been broken for well over a year now and are basically unplayable, gumrak for example shipped with the game and can't be played. The balance is incredibly axis sided and they know it's a problem but refuse to fix it. RO2 is on its death bed, another expansion won't fix it people play RO2 for WWII everything else just lacks the depth and atmosphere of the base game.
>7 months
>already went free for a weekend
>only 2 perks and 3 maps
>zedconomy
>someone actually making up the word "zedconomy"
>7 fucking months
It doesn't get worse than this.
>>317713238
>within a week
>within a week
>within a week
>>317713238
>within a week for free
>its been out for a year
>it costs money
>>317713238
>order a pizza
>it will be done in 30mins to and hour
>that's an acceptable time frame
>two hours later the delivery gets here
>it's a calzone
>>317713673
>it's a calzone
>>317713673
>false equivalent
/v/ will never stop arguing with shitty analogies.
>>317713673
this desu baka senpai
>>317713623
>Early Access
>he knew the risk
>he bought it anyway
>it's clearly his fault, and yet he feels like he has the moral high ground
>>317713163
How long had you owned the game? I've had it since April so I might be fucked.
>>317711823
>I'm glad there will never be a bikini character in KF2, it doesn't fit the theme and is stupid.
This.
Don't bother tho, horny 14 year olds won't understand that KF is a mature game for mature gamers.
>>317713673
>being this fucking retarded
>order from Papa Johns
>expected delivery 20 to 30 minutes
>oh nice
>hour and a half later
>get pizza
>open box
>wrong pizza
>talk to driver
>manager wants her to take back both pizzas and exchange them
>wut
>driver tells manager theyre a cunt, calls the store and tells them to remake both pizzas and that she will be back
>manager GAVE MY PHONE # to the guy with my pizza
>THE NIGGER CALLS ME
>fill him in that we both get a free pizza
>mfw manager hands out my phone # to some normie
>Guts got off the boat before KF2 got the sharpshooter perk
>>317709781
>tfw I trusted them
>>317714276
>Dr. Dre released a studio album before KF2 got the sharpshooter perk
>The F-35 was declared combat ready before KF2 got the sharpshooter perk
>The US signed a nuclear deal with Iran before KF2 got the sharpshooter perk
>Parts of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 have been found before KF2 got the sharpshooter perk
>>317700551
>mfw I already learned my Early Acess lesson
THANKS SPACEBASE DF9
I don't really mind cosmetics, the cosmetics in KF1 was fun and it was obvious from the start of KF2 that this would have a lot more cosmetics since you could change hats/helmets and stuff.
And they said in the FAQ that they will keep the non-cosmetic content free. Hopefully they will keep their word.
>>317713673
>comparing something complex and time-intensive like software development to preparing a meal in 15 minutes
I lurk a lot and given the comments that are posted here on a daily basis, it's not that surprising that some of you are actually this detached from reality.
>>317714662
>free content
Why not finish the game first?
What's wrong with Calzones
I'm so glad I bought vermintide instead
>>317714540
>>317714276
You're acting like the time frame is even remotely comparable. KF2 hit Early Access in April while Dre's Detox was announced more than a decade ago.
It makes you look like an idiot.
It's going to get denied
>mfw they marketed the demo and firebug upgrade as "FREE"
>>317714701
>t. Yoshiro
>>317711494
>I thought that too
>>317712569
To my knowledge they changed their policy and early access games can be refunded whenever now
Free skin drops and it funds new maps? (an HOPEFULLY new bosses jeez) Sounds good to me.
Gentlemen we have to look at the bright side and see the possibilities that can happen
And the best part is, we wasted all this time on something the community will hate, so we had to yell as loud as possible that all this garbage is going to be completely optional!
>mfw I promised my friends that I was going to wait for KF2's release to buy it
>a promise I'm sure I'll to never need to fulfill
>SWAT and martial artist will never be released during your life time
This would have been an excellent system if executed like how it is in valve games. All game changing content is free for everyone while silly hats and shiny guns are paid or traded for.
They've made it very clear in the FAQ that they intend on selling new weapons as well so fuck all of this shit.
>>317715695
>Sharpshooter will never be released
>>317715783
How about no fucking economy? Mannconomy is the primary reason's TF2 community became a festering pile of shit.
>>317716132
TF2's community has always been trash the economy didn't make it any worse. All it did was make valve money, give them a reason to keep updating the game and get me a $3000 frying pan.
>>317709781
Having lots of fun, mate.
>tfw Bannerlord will come out before KF2
>>317714760
I meant in general.
KF1 was supported for 4+ years with free content like maps, weapons and events.
I don't care if they add cosmetics aslong as they keep doing their free events and maps
>>317716420
Nah man TF2 used to be a real game, until they made it free2play and it got flooded with 12yo. I bet you never even played TF2 back then.
>>317709781
>player 45 hours
>had tons of fun
>feel like I've got my money worth
>>317716880
>only 45 hours
It's like you hate dosh.
>>317716880
>played 13h
>not enough to feel like i got my moneys worth
>too many to get a guaranteed refund
JUST
>>317716787
I jumped on during the WAR update, but that was a hot minute ago so all I remember are those servers where 15 soldiers and 15 demos were just in a fucking giant box with all crits grinding for the event.
I agree that the community probably took a huge dip in quality after F2P but it had nothing to do with trading, that shit can still be ignored today if you just want to play the game.
>>317709781
>tfw you were hyped for it
>tfw this shit happens
Just kill me pls
>>317713238
>Do something productive with your time.
If I wanted to do something productive with my time I wouldn't be playing videogames, you little twerp.
I don't understand. So the game has cosmetic drops now. They're still working on perks and most likely balancing the game. What's the big deal? If you don't want to buy any cosmetics then don't buy them. You can even sell the drops you get from just playing.
>>317709781
>bought it on GMG
>can't even try to refund
>>317718109
>They're still working on perks and most likely balancing the game.
If only there was something to show for this
>>317717510
I wasn't the original guy, and I don't agree that mannconomy directly ruined tf2, but it certainly started it. for like a good year they kept adding ACTUAL CONTENT, but then once they realized they can just sell hats to 12yo's playing the free game they just went full jew mode and stopped caring. So really it was F2P + Economy + Jews that killed TF2.
>>317713673
Holy shit my sides
>>317716787
I've been playing since 2009. People who STILL complain about the store or hats ruining the game are retarded.
>>317718109
>They're still working on perks
I don't get it, it's all cosmetic isn't it? Why are you guys crying
>>317718326
They've been showing progress on the Gunslinger as well.
>>317718541
What part of the Early Access user agreement did Tripwire violate? Give me some legit offenses for my refund request other than "but dlcs are bad for consumers"
>someone gifted you kf2
>can't refund it
>>317718739
Can you trade it?
Are there any good custom maps for KF2 that are not shit? I just want to solo for a while on new maps. Im worn out from official maps.
>>317718739
Be a pal and give back the person their money!
so whats everyone think of the new cash shop?
they spent a lot of time and money getting it ready instead of putting the sharpshooter perk into the game.
>>317718809
I miss maps like that mountain and farm. Everything is fucking corridor shooter.
>>317718842
>instead of putting the sharpshooter perk into the game.
>we're getting the gunslinger next
>commando already exist
Let it go.
I sure am glad I dont buy things /v/ tells me to.
I'd be pissed if I spent any money supporting KF2.
>>317718994
But /v/ told you not to buy this game.
>>317718924
I wish we have Santa's Workshop or Ice Cave for kf2 this christmas.
Wouldnt it be nice to have reskinned enemies for the holidays instead of skin cashshop?
>>317718842
Prove it.
>>317711532
I love Killing Floor 2, the potential is what has me excited, they REALLY fucked this up though.
The game only has 4 maps and 6 perks, at least announce it when both of those numbers are over 10.
Is this the same Killing Floor 2 that was meant to have heads exploding in like 5000 different ways and shit like that?
What ever happened to that? I've seen people play it and it looks generic as fuck. The trailers on /v/ a year or so ago were actually hype.
>>317718947
NEVER EVER
>>317719240
Would you say even if they have different team working on cash shop and gameplay separately, it's still bad timing to release cosmetic while gameplay update is so slow?
>characters that require you to own other games unlock them
>weapons that require you to own other games to unlock them
>crate bullshit
>selling skins
>all in an early access game
Why don't they wait until the game is finished to start jewing people? Do they think it looks good that half the fucking classes and weapons are missing yet they're ready to bleed people for money via microtransactions? This game's entire business model is a huge red flag, if I hadn't bought it before all of this bullshit appeared I would have never bought it.
>>317719258
they actually do
it's just everyone that uploads to youtube is terrible at headshots
>>317717317
I also played 40 hours of the first one.
>>317719431
On one hand Chivalry has went on 80% off sale several times, on the other hand the Zwei is the best weapon in game
>>317719236
>We were going to include sharp but it was taking too long so we just made something else
>Next day reveal crates
>>317718809
There is this one map that was made by 2 anons in the Killing floor general for a map making contest that just ended recently, they got first place with the map.
http://gamebanana.com/blogs/18027
>>317719487
You realy hate dosh.
>>317715695
this is what gets me desu
>>317719385
Of course, save that shit for when the game is out of early access.
>>317700551
Reminder that Day of Defeat: Source has around the same number of players as KF2.
>>317700551
is it fun though
>>317719609
I'm not supporting that kind of practice. I don't want chivalry, I don't care how cheap it is, I paid for an early access game and they're denying me content because I don't own some other unrelated game. Sure I can still use the zwei if other people in the server have chivalry but what happens if tripwire does this with a more obscure game that very few people have?
If an AAA company like Activision/EA/Ubisoft did this people would shit all over them, it's not fair that tripwire gets to get away with it.
>>317719258
Left this post for like 30mins and expected more replies desu. From fanboys at the very least.
Like wasn't the thing that this game prided if that's a word itself on was all the animations of death and shit. I remember the first trailer I was like I actually physically NEED this game.
Then it came out and some dudes streamed it and it looked like generic poo.
>>317719820
>>317700551
The hilarious thing is, Tripwire was never good. They were always talentless hacks riding on the Unreal engine, using their indie cred to sway you hipster suckers into buying their garbage.
Anyone with a brain saw this shit coming. You were all too busy trying to justify your purchase and defending a fucking early access title of all things.
Enjoy your dead game.
>>317720127
it was ten minutes, just saying
>>317720304
KF1 may have been basically a mod but KF2 is legit good quality you can't deny that you memester. The gunplay is really good, the animations and thought to detail is great, the soundwork is nice.
But everything else about the company is beyond help. They should just go bankrupt because their business practices are absolute shit
>>317719820
Does tripwire really think they can pull of the microtransaction/ crate stuff with this measly amount of players? It worked in Payday 2 and other games because they had the established playerbase to move the economy, Killing Floor 2 has around 1K on average. What the fuck are they thinking?
This shit is going to scare away more people than it will bring.
>>317719685
I wouldn't mind spending 250 hours on it but I just can't. It just feels so bland after so many hours, not that I don't spend hundreds of hours on individual games, but KF is just different.
>>317700551
>http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/
Shilling Floor 2
video games are for brain dead idiots now
>>317709781
Jewery comes close
my refunds is requested
but it's too late now;_;
>>317719636
>(that needed gameplay programmers, animators, niggers, and more)
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>>317711724
>Only one female character
>rest of the game is a sausage fest
>sexy naked invisible lady zed
They're not very good at being SJWs, are they? They got all high and mighty about that one comment on underwear, and that's literally it.
>>317720304
You're probably right - KF2 has been pretty bad balance and content-wise, and now the abysmal update speed and relative lack of fixes per update is showing they're probably having problems. Should have more people working on the game
>>317720512
KF2 is just as horrible as all of their other games.
tfw can't even get a refund because my copy of the game was gifted to me, even though I paid for it by other means
>>317720882
>KF2 has been pretty bad balance and content-wise, and now the abysmal update speed and relative lack of fixes per update is showing they're probably having problems
That's the kicker about all of this. The game is in a terrible state and what do they do? Try to get people to buy content instead of fixing the game and adding content. What a bunch of disgusting cunts.
>some dumb fags right here didnt learn after Ro2
You gotta wait at least 2 years for the game to be playable and buy it in a free weekend deal
>>317721047
Yeah and on top of that their excuse about "adding microtransactions doesn't slow down the development" is most likely bullshit too. Sure those people who were working on MTs could have been helpful somewhere useful when the game is not even ready yet.
Refund failed again, RIP. Gonna have to write up a 250 word essay for this one.
>>317721690
I missed out on a lot of KF1 and just wanted to be in from the beginning this time around.
>>317711494
You and me both, brother.
>completely cosmetic
I don't give a shit as long as it stays that way. If retards want to give them money for a weapon skin who am I to stop them?
>>317720879
Maybe it's because they aren't trying to be SJWs and they're just trying to be decent human beings that don't like in Japan. Not that I'm saying Japan doesn't have decent human beings, I'm saying that in Japan it's totally normal to have your female characters in panties the entire game, and in the west it isn't.
If it isn't obvious I'm joking. Other than the part about them not trying to be SJWs.
>>317721807
>tfw was in KF1 since the beginning
I didn't get to play the mod, but when KF1 first released it was nothing special outside of a promising concept with potential.
2012 was probably its peak, my, what a game.
KF1 went through some extremely rough patches in its time. But the game and Tripwire always pulled through, which was great. But with KF2 I'm not so sure. I think with KF2 they've bitten off way more than they can chew. Even KF1 updated more than this.
>>317721769
Early access games really should have different refunding requirements
Any time an early access game changes business models like this it should be grounds for a refund, it'd teach devs to finish their fucking game first if they want to go full jew.
>>317722304
>you will be able to buy weapons in the future with this system
enjoyfuck i want a refund
bought it on halloween sale and wanted to refund it after the zedconomy bullshit
Cant because I passed the two week period. I never ended playing this shitty game anyway. waste of 15 euro
>mfw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bam1B3Ru12Q
>>317709781
>Early Access done right
>>317700551
you guys are exaggerating. the leveling system is already a way bigger offense than any cosmetics economy could ever be. seriously, fuck leveling up in a fps. it's like putting the content behind a grind wall. lame fucking shit.
>>317702319
Because not only were they free, you'd never see them unless you downloaded them/played on a server that enabled them. They completely ruin the artstyle. Shit like gamebanana were totally fine. Skins/hats/crates are not fine.
>>317709781
>i could have bought a 4 copies of killing floor 1 and actually had fun instead of this shit
My normal refund got denied
Im sending a ticket through classic steam support
>>317700551
>implying
This economy will make it alive and when it's released with full mod support and allt he content, it will be alive as fuck.
Crafting, trading,crate shit, all of these keep the community alive alone because of an economy.
Custom game modes, custom maps, custom zeds, and just plain mutators. The full customization KF2 will have will make the game hhave infinite replayability and amazing possibilities when the SDK is completely finished and released. Remember those cool zeds like the brute, shiver, bastard, etc? Imagine them in KF2 with upraded graphics and HoE upgrades. Also expect to see the return of classic mods like KF vehicle mod, objective mode, TDM, glass house, and maybe even KF1 gameplay mode.
And then the maps like those Arcade- maps will probably be redone since they were GOAT. Imagine Arcade-gas-station with running zeds; defend thyself has been remade already, as has a few of the classic KF1 maps. And also the custom guns that will be made, although I doubt anyone will actually put effort into making 200 FPS animations like TW does.