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So, here's your new fucking Warchief. Check MMOC. Dropped.
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So, here's your new fucking Warchief. Check MMOC.

Dropped.
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what about brojin?
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>still playing wow
come on its 2015
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>varian dead
>sylvanas warchief
>aegwynn
>broxigar
>medivh
>lothar
>arthas' sister
literally what the fuck are they doing
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>>317663254

This
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How are you going to praise the Dark Lady in Legion /v/?
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>It's real

Goddamn idiots. All of them.
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>>317663174
He goes "missing" somewhere.
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>Vol'jin is missing

Wonder what he could be up to
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>>317664216

Fuck, gimme some vidya that looks like that
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>>317663091
Took long enough.
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>>317663254
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>>317663626
The same way we praised Garrosh, of course.
>Remember, Sylvanas, eventually we all have to stand before our maker and face judgment. Your day may come sooner than others.
From pottery to prophecy.
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>ANOTHER tyrant takes control of the Horde
>AGAIN
>ALREADY
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>>317664479
That's from Warcraft. Trolls and Hakkar the Soul-flayer.
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I actually like Sylvanas, is that bad?
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>>317664742
She's literally the only one fitting to rule as warchief
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>>317664742
Yez you're just thinking with your dick
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>>317664742
I like her too but I don't want her as warchief because it means she's going to be dead by the next expansion
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>>317664742
Maybe we will finally get some sort of coherent development for the undead instead of 'well are they like a psuedo scourge or what?' nonsense.
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>>317663091
>Anduin is now King.
HHAHAHAHAHHA.
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>>317664643
>Siege of Undercity
>Green Jesus gets rekt by Sylvanas
>We fight her
>But wait old god powers
>She survives
>Gets spared by people fighting over who should kill her
>Pandas out of fucking nowhere
>Let her face trial!
>She escapes
>Time travels
>wat if scourge never beat elves
>WoD2: Elves edition
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>Varian is dead

Good night sweet king. At least you're with Tiffin now.
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>>317665096
>>317665002
>>317663432
>Varian is dead
>Warriors still couldn't get Shalashaskamang for an artifact
Damn that stings.
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100$

Note it. Screenshot it.


Sylvanas fuck up with Genn and the alliance
WARRRRRRR
1 Patch before the final one, Vol'jin come back, see that she fucked up, alliance and horde unite to retake lordaeron
FInal patch Sylvanas is fleeing and aligning herself with the legion to save her undead ass.
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>>317665215
Let's be honest, we all know he's not actually going to be dead. Just like how Vol'jin won't actually be dead.

The only major NPC we know for sure that dies is Tirion.
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>>317664729

I mean the art style. If only Warcraft's engine was capable of that.
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At least this means more Sylvanas porn

>>317665347
If only blizz was actually capable of making dungeons AT NIGHT
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>>317665096
Wait w0t, really?
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>people on the story forums are celebrating Varians death
>people on the story forums are celebrating the fact Sylvie is now Warchief

I don't even play anymore and I hate this.

>>317665459

Yes Anduin is now King, the long heralded Anduin leading the army of light is coming closer and closer.
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why are they killing off all the fucking cool human males?
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>the Forsaken now run the orcs

this is top keklarity
they ran away from the humans only to be controlled by the undead humans
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The fuck does Illidan have to do with this shit?
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>Blizzard uses this as an opportunity to make Sylvanas go full tyrant plague mistress
>Replaces Orgrimmar guards with abominations for several years
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I know it's been said in the past but I miss when the player wasn't considered some demi god but instead just some random hero. In a way it was what I wanted from fable, a world filled with heros going doing heroic shit. It seems like now all these super important lore figures are dying and being defeated by the player instead of just providing a back drop for a world in which players carve their own niche
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>>317665591

to pave the way for the true leader of the Alliance
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>>317663091

Did Voljin ever show up in WoD? I stopped playing before they opened the second raid tier.
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>people honestly believe that Sylvanas as Warchief and Varian is dead are permanent

It's fucking Blizzard you stupid plebs
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>>317665834
>Anyone
>Permanent warchief

Toppest kek, everyone gets a chance to sit in that shit-throne
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>>317665758
Maiev took Illidan's body to have sex with for all eternity but then Gul'dan wanted some so now they have a never ending threesom

And that's where the player demon hunters come from.
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>>317663091
I want to fuck Sylvanas' cold, unfeeling, undead pussy
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> sylvanas windrunner is now the Warchief
Somebody explain to me how the hell did this happen?
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>>317665828
He gave you a quest in 6.2. That was it.

Why even make him warchief? He didn't do shit.
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>>317665563
>people on the story forums are celebrating Varians death
Because the average WoW player in this day and age are complete morons who know nothing of the game's lore, and they know nothing of what makes a character good and interesting.

Those idiots all hate varian because they couldn't tell you what a good king was if their life depended on it. They all think varian was some rage monkey on the same level as garrosh.

Just let that sink in, those people actually think that varian was on the same level of retardedness as garrosh.
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>uther dead
>bolvar dead
>varian dead
>tirion dead
GAS THE DEMONS RACE WAR NOW
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>>317665826
>A stupid little girl who gets lucky over and over and needs everybody else to clean up her messes

Yrel is literally the wost
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>>317666016
Thrall gets depressed over Garrosh.
Baine is a pussy as usual.
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Am I honestly supposed to believe that anyone with ears like that would ever think it was a good idea to wear a hood?

Does no one else think that looks retarded? Her ears are sticking right through the cloth.
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>>317666000

>all of a sudden, all her skin is back and perfectly smooth

what da fug, did she go into a hyperbolic timechamber like kerrigan in SC2?
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>>317665964
We all know that Blizz will put Thrall back on the throne
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>>317665820

Quivering Palm
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>New Scenarios
>Unknown Name - Maybe Broke Shore Scenario
Travel to the Broken Shore
Storm the beach, kill all demons and structures
Locate KING VARIAN WRYNN
>Varian's dead
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>>317666061
Wrath Tirion was terrible anyway.

Great character in Vanilla and had a nice novella too, but fucking stupid in Wrath.
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>Delicious midriff
You wish. Enjoy your new censored Dark Lady, Forsakucks.
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>>317666250

>implying we dont find his body in that scenario
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>>317666308
The fuck? I don't care if they want her more armored or whatever, but that doesn't even pretend to match at all.
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>volgin missing in action
>garrosh is undead
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>>317663091
YES

YES

YEEEEES
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>>317664216
>Warchief, Warchief, Warchief Vol'Jin the Legion is invading, what shall we do?
>Da Legion mon? We need to resurrect Hakkar!!!
>Wait how is that going to...
>RESURRECT HAKKAR!!!
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>>317666250
Well obviously he's not dead at the beginning. You see him survive the crash in the cinematic for fuck's sake.

Most likely some shit will happen and he will be gone, people will presume he's dead but he's actually alive because whoaaaaaaa what a twist. Anduin will be king then varian will eventually make a return and let anduin keep the throne because he's been doing a good job.
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>>317666425
> garrosh
Grom
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>>317666000
>Wet
>Cold
>Sloppy
Pretty gross m8
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>>317666308
couldn't they at least make her midriff armor the same color as the rest? and why is she wearing chain mail and plate when she is supposed to be an agile hunter
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>>317666168
but wheres my nigga Vol'jin and why didnt Baine step up? shit Lor'themar would have been a better choice then fucking Sylvanas.
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>>317666020

People hated Varian because he was just an orcish human. Then he became an orcish human with a kek fetish who didn't listen to Jaina "gas the orcs race war nao" Proudmoore. Since then hes been practically on Thrall's friends list, and now he finally has the chance to shine except he fucking dies so his peace loving hippie weakling son can take the throne and guide the Alliance towards a future that welcome the Undead as a part of Azeroth.
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>>317666425
>>garrosh is undead
please be real
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>>317666580
Vol'jin fucked off to do troll shit.
Baine is a pussy who bowed to Sylvanas, just as he bowed to Garrosh.
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>>317666639
i was mistaken

grom was datamined as an npc and tagged as undead
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http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1903667-New-Scenarios?p=37377923#post37377923
List of Scenarios, a whole bunch of demons, a whole bunch of obtaining relics from demons. Death Knights are going to work with the new Lich King, and there's definitely a whole bunch of demonic stuff happening around the world.
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Where are people getting this information?

Is there a new cinematic?
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>>317666560
>>317666395
Whoa now guys, don't bring logic into this, okay? This is blizzard we're talking about, sylvannas' look was clearly problematic so they had to throw a bunch of plate armor on her even though it doesn't make any sense for the character. Also a vain character like sylvannas who is known to enjoy showing off her body is just not allowed to have her midriff showing, that's just out of the question at this point, they really needed to put on an out of place piece of armor that sticks out like a sore thumb.

IT JUST WORKS.
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Don't worry Tirion will save us

....oh wait...
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>>317666683

Tauren are ultimately a mule race. Cairne was a one off.
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>>317666683
He's probably gonna unite the trolls or some shit.

It's amazing on the trolls are able to be decimated and still remain a threat in every single fuckign expac.
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>>317666919

>bringing an anti-undead weapon to a demon fight

Its amazing that Tirion even showed up at all. He should be tutoring the next generation of paladins in Stormwind or Light's Chapel.
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>>317666809
>You Face Jaraxxus - Defeat Lord Jaraxxus.

Can't this fucking meme finally end?
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>>317667085
>Anti-undead
>forged from a Naaru fragment
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>>317666439
Hakkar is a good loa, he dindunuffin' just need mo' souls for his flayin'
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>>317666809
>there's definitely a whole bunch of demonic stuff happening around the world.
I was fully expecting the pre-legion event to be a recreation of the event at the end of vanilla beta.
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Well I like Sylvanas, but in WoW she's always been more of a cheerleader of the horde, just a pretty girl who stands in the back and obeys whatever current warchief is doing, not an active politician, she passively stayed in Lordaeron when Thrall was in the seat, fought apothecary uprising because Thrall didn't like it, switched to expansion policy under Garrosh and created valkiras to please him, and then supported overthrowing of Garrosh for no personal reason. I just can't see her as an independant enough member of the horde to be put in charge of it.
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>>317666813
Legion alpha is now up and, of course, people are digging through the game files and uncovering spoilers.
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>>317666809
>Queen Takes King - Battle Genn Greymane on the deck of the Skyfire.
>Last Stand - Defeat Nathanos Blightcaller on the deck of the Skyfire.

Oh look the Lich Queen has already started her war on the living
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>>317666551
Ever fucked a cold fleshlight?
They warm up petty fast when you fuck it.
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>2015 Blizzard
>Ruined SC2 story
>Ruined Diablo story
Why did you think WoW would be spared?
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>>317667348
Yeah supposedly sylvannas kills genn.

Apparently her and nathanos attack genn. Nathanos dies then genn beats the everliving shit out of sylvannas. She has to use one of her valkyries as a get out of jail free card then kills genn.
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>>317665820
The fucked up by rushing into having players kill Illidan and Arthas in the first 2 expansions. Now they are stuck in a cycle where lots of dramatic shit needs to happen or players feel let down compared to past achievements.

Now they bring about the "rise" of characters just so they can make them fall dramatically later, example: Garrosh.

you just watch, Sylvannas is going to be a raid boss soon. The Lore will have the "good" horde storming her throne with Thrall after she does some more fucked up forsaken shit. Then Thrall will then retake his "rightful" place as Warchief.
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>>317667726
Nah, no mention of Genn Dying.

Niggah is going feral.
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>>317667726
>nathanos dies
but how is he supposed to become the new leader of the forsaken if he's redead?
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>>317667726
Since when was Genn ever a competent combatant?
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>>317665458
What is it with Blizzard and their night day cycle anyway? One out of every ten areas actually has a night time, the rest just look the same all the time, or get a sunset looking sky with stars in it.
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>>317666809
>Death's March - Obtain the Lich King's Blessing.
Wait what?
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Haven't played since start of Pandaland when I came back from a free month. What's happened to major story characters/leaders like Varian or Sylvanas? How'd they die or become a leader?
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>>317663091
Well this explains why we still don't have cross-faction (aside from some of the higherups just being fuckheads about the subject). Anyways, look forward to the last raid of Legion being SIEGE OF UNDERCITY.
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>>317668037
Talk to bolvar about his day and get him a space heater.
Are you so new to wow you think we actually killed the lich king?
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>>317668052
>How'd they die or become a leader?

Varian mellowed out since his son confessed to be in a homosexual relationship with an Arab black dragon

Sylvanas is just doing what she has been doing since Vanilla, creating the Scourge 2.0
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>>317668037
Bolvar is lava jesus
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>>317668191
>>317668225
I know that, but why is it ok to get his help now and why didn't we ask him for help back when Chin-Dragon blew up the planet?
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>>317668037
Bovine Fordwagon, not Arthas/Ner'zhul
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>>317668338
He was sleepy
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>>317668223
>his son confessed to be in a homosexual relationship with an Arab black dragon

Was that something to do with the guy with the big hat who started people on their ultra freebie god item quest or whatever? gonna need some clarity on that, don't even know his fucking name
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>>317668338
Lich King has a vendetta against the legion, remember?
Its a Warcraft 3 callback. Albeit a very very weak one.

WoW lore is just grasping at straws now.
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>>317663091
>the undead finally gaining control over the horde like they deserve.

Picked up.
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>>317663091
I want to suck her smelly undead cock
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>>317668502
>Lich King has a vendetta against the legion, remember?
Lava-man is now the Lich King not Arthas
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>>317668392
>Was that something to do with the guy with the big hat

Yeah Wrathion, the last uncorrupted black dragon that decides to become corrupted at the end of MoP for some reason
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>>317668338
Bolvar wanted his being Lich King to be kept secret. He only intends to act as a seal on the Scourge. We go to him to get his help to reforge Frostmourne into Icereaper and whatever the other Sword is for Frost DK's. He isn't helping us fight the legion directly.
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>>317668854
>The Call of Icecrown - The Lich King await's news of your success. Use Baron Sliver's Death Gate to travel to Icecrown.

Dunno seems that a lot of Icecrown has been reactivated
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Great as if garrosh going full retard as a warchief wasn't enough now we get sylvanas to go full retard. It's always the horde to how the hell have they not been dismantled yet?

wtf have thrall and vol'jin been doing all this time? dicking around god knows where or something?
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>>317668756
The helmet does carry the will of Ner'Zhul, so lavaboy now partially identifies as an undead orc shaman.
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>>317669287
Thrall is sulking due to what happened with Garros and questions his own judgement.

Vol'jin is fucking off doing Troll things over the good of the horde.
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>>317669287
What else have they ever done?
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>>317663091
I wouldn't have minded this happening is Blizzard was back in it's heyday but with Current Blizzard? No thanks
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>Sylvy is Defacto Warchief and by the looks of it is doing a decent job
>Bolvar is active and we're getting Dragon-Fire theme undead
>Knight's of the Ebon Blade active after god know's how long
>Cult of the Forgotten Shadow getting some love

We Undead now.
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>>317663432
>Lothar
I'm gonna assume that's a ghost because unless we go full dragon balls now there's no way he can come back. Even for Blizz standards.
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>>317669515

Wait has Vol'jin even done anything significant since becoming warchief?
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>>317669675

Him, Llane and Broxigar are going to show up in Valhalla as spirits.
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So, do you guys think the old gods are going to help out in some way or are they just going to sit back and let shit happen?
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>>317669691
he said hi to us in our garrison this one time.
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>>317669890
With how the past two expansions turned out, and with demons being the main target currently with old god shit/naga on the side; Azshara is probably gonna be the final boss of the expac
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>>317664742
why is she wearing a bikini?
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>>317669691
Not really, in entirety of draenor he jsut sat on his ass in Orgrimmar while Thrall and Khadgar went to fight beyond the portal. But then same happened on alliance side, it was some Beef Mclargehuge Draenei guy who went to the portal and Varian sat on his ass. Those two assholes didn't even visit garrisons or Ashran once.
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>>317669691
Trying to clean up Garrosh's mess and that's about it, didn't even get to finish the job before going MIA
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Oh yeah, this guy is showing up too.
How much you want to bet he'll be warchief by the end of everything?
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>>317669890

Have you not seen all the shit about the Emerald Nightmare returning?
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>>317670080
Yeah and he is classified as undead
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>>317663432
>>317663091
Am I just not the target audience? I thought they were desperate for subs and wanted old vets back
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> try to pass horde off as misunderstood good guys and alliance as bad racists
> constantly pick leaders that contradict these notions
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>>317670051
So she can at least look hot.
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Did they ever do anything with those life restoring wells from panda?
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>>317664709
>muh noble savagery
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>>317670182
I don't get your point. Vets will come back for demon hunters, Emerald Dream, Azshara, and Legion invasion. If none of that brings vets back, nothing will. Sylvanas being warchief is kind of just something that exists. It doesn't matter to any sane person.
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>>317670051

Because she didn't give a shit about armor until she found out she was going to hell when she died to be tormented for eternity.
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>>317665458
Source?
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>>317670204
>Sylvanas
>Not misunderstood good two-shoes literal perfection of what all things should strive for
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>>317670080
I would be legitimately surprised if anything from draenor besides gul fucking dan himself actually managed to cross back over
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>Try to give the Horde a new Warchief and put in quite a bit of development over the years
>"Playerbase hates him, lets just kill him off" instead of just sticking with their guns
>Doesn't even give Vol'jin enough time
>Permanently fucks over the Warchief title in the process

Fuck you Blizzard
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>>317669993
Probably, the Naga are apparently a big part of the Expack. My nerd-dream is that it's setting them up as a playable race and main focus for an expack.

>>317670173
I have, but I was under the understanding it was the legion's doing this time.


Still, I'd love to see The Old God's and the Legion come to blows, seeing Absolute Order vs. Absolute Chaos would be fun.
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>>317670296
>If none of that brings vets back, nothing will

How about letting the Allience retake Lordaeron?
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>Character death
>In Warcraft
This is a series where you can die, be resurrected as an undead, die as an undead and be resurrected again as an undead death knight.

And if all else fails and you die for real, someone can create a portal to an alternate past and fetch a new you from there.
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>>317665215
>not burying a legendary warrior with his blade
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>>317670396

Xavius is right there, his model is with the rest. N'Zoth is the one behind the Emerald Nightmare as always.
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>>317669890
C'thun was always there, making sure your friends weren't. they all quit, one by one. they betrayed you. You will die.....
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>>317670204
WoW very rarely and briefly tried to depict horde as misunderstood uglies, most of the time they were just "evil" faction, and the raid bosses were just even bigger evil.
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>>317670182
you're not, the are 100% catering to blizzdrones whose first Warcraft game was WoW with the Legion expansion.

They cry on the forums every day for this bullshit to be implemented so Blizzard is finally doing it. Half of this horrible writing direction is coming from input on the forums, IE: the cancerous playerbase of WoW in 2015.
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>>317670397
Who cares about that? Dirty Alliance scum?
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>>317669783
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>>317670461
Xavius who is apparently on the Legion's pay roll now
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>>317670419
>not burying a legendary warrior with his blade
They dug up Kael's dagger, the Ashbringer, reforged Frostmourne, stole Aleria's bow...
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WHERES MAH NIGGA AT? WHATS HE DOIN?
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>>317669305
>arthas was in control all along and killed ner'zhul
>lava king identifies as ner'zhul
jesus, so was the whole expansion made for shitting on arthas?
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>>317670524
The day of the rope is approaching savage.
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>>317670617
He's busy practicing his second fiddle.
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>>317670617

Being irrelevant after MoP.
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>>317666061
Tirion died? That's a shame, although the character long since lost its niche.
I only enter these WoW threads to see how the lore changes and it seems like the characters I liked keep dying.
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>>317670617
Running to Iron Forge yelling I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO.
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>>317670639
Arthas didn't kill Ner'Zhul, he merged with him and partially became him too.
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>>317670653
Good luck. Every dead Alliance scum gets raised to serve the Dark Lady.
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WHERE
THE FUCK
IS
MAIEV
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>>317666639
>Grom and Garry are revived for a sick father and son boss battle, both wielding Gorehowl somehow, ones from the other timeline I don't know.
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>>317670769
Cutting herself because Illidan is still alive and this time she's not allowed to chase him.

>>317670617
Literally who?
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>>317670769
Killed off in a novel, after going INSANEEEEE.
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>>317670769

In the Demon Hunter starting experience, she captures them all.
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>>317670397
That's never going to happen in WoW.
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>>317670572
>alleria
is alive
can't wait for her to give her bow to a orc/troll hunter tbph
>Kael
well, it was retarded
>Frostmourne
reforging pieces of it
>>317670738
they wrote a shit book that made all the evulz the LK did the fault of arthas because reasons
>>317670752
fuck of dead scum
>muh dark lady
>thassarian kucks her deathguard with peasant militia and kills her 1up
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>>317670696
Same, I dont even play the game anymore. But I've played these games since they were RTS. I have some interest in seeing what they do to destroy this story beyond all recognition.

It usually further confirms my distaste for Blizzard. Its amazing how poorly they write their games and get by with it.
>Warcraft
terrible now
>Starcraft
terrible now
>diablo
really bad, bordering on terrible now.

You'd think a billion dollar corporation could afford better writers.
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>>317670969
>they wrote a shit book that made all the evulz the LK did the fault of arthas because reasons
Well if you think about it, it means that the Orc dindu nuffin.
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Guy's chill out.

Vol'jin is just going to gather the the Troll tribes under the Shadowspear's and wreck demon shit and piss off Zul.

Darkspear never die, and the Anami are gonna bury them here.
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What is it with Warcraft leaders who go missing?

Moreover why the fuck is everyone getting corrupted?

Maybe it's because they're going fucking lazy taking time off all the time?
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>>317665820
did he dieded?
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>>317667085
It's technically anti anything evil weapon since Naaru are beings of the light.

Also if you remember paladins were anti undead/demons back in vanilla when skills had flavor.
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>>317671053
pretty much
>all that lore thrown away.
>shit book is inconsistent with ingame lore
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>>317670996
Blizzard might look like a big, professional company but in reality they are extremely cheap amateurs that are basically just winging it. I'd be surprised if even 10 people there had a good understanding of their job and how to do it.
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>>317670969
Oh and I think priests stick a Naruu on a stick and use that as a weapon
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>>317670572
That's fucking nothing, Warlocks dig up a skull to become their Morte.
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>>317670492
>your friends will abandon you
T-Thanks, C'thun...
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>>317670905
>>317670890
They better not kill Maiev I'll be mad as fuck.

>>317670904
She wasn't killed fuck off.
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>raises undead army
>everyone in the horde starts to hate her
>and then she becomes the warchief

???
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>>317670996
They used to have better writers/designers, but they probably didn't want to be jew'd by their new Activision overlords so they've all left.
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>>317671206
so, c'thun would have no effect on a robot right?
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>>317671194
Yeah, the Holy priest artifacts are pretty much all Naruu on a stick. Looks pretty sweet.
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>>317665820
What happened here?
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>>317671242
She is the only one getting shit done and winning battles
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>>317671242
To be frank, she is the most viable choice out of the remaining people achievement wise
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>>317671107
Everyone gets corrupted because it's literally the only villain Metzen knows how to write.

I don't think anyone in the history of the series has had real motivations. It's the most basic good vs evil shit imaginable.

Which is also why Sylvanas suddenly being warchief is such a copout because it's obviously a setup to make her Garrosh 2.0. Horde will never have a proper fucking leader.
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>>317671194
It's a rich tradition of putting stick in magical creature's ass to make a staff out of it. At least Naaru wasn't stretched.
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>>317671279
Isn't that essentially what the curse of flesh is? Old gods corrupting constructs into more controllable forms?
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>>317671291
They said the same for garry, and look where that got him

>>317671341
No no no no no NO Lor'Themar is
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>>317666000
trips of truth
thats my wallpaper also
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>>317671392
robot as in /r9k/
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>>317671242
>>317671395
Let Sylvanas "Get Shit Done" Windrunner lead in times of war.

Let Lor'Themar "Look fags stop killing each other Jesus Christ" Theron lead in times of peace.
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>>317663432

>arthas' sister

What.
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>>317671463
>Let Sylvanas "Get Kicked Out of My Own City" Windrunner lead in times of war.

Great idea
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>>317671395
>Lor'Themar is
A blood elf is never going to lead the horde, too fucking busy dealing with their own problems like dwindling numbers.

Face it, with the Legion invading Sylvanas is the best option. If the Leigon weren't attacking I'd argue for somebody else
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>>317671463
The only reason Sylvanas manages to get anything done is because she constantly resorts to unethical clandestine shit that would make her allies sick if they knew she was doing it.
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>>317671341
>>317671395
High Overlord Saurfang or Drek'Thar should be fill in warchief desu.

Undead and Blood Elves aren't really trustworthy members of the horde.
But I still think this is all an elaborate set up that will end with Sylvannas being a raid boss, and Thrall becoming warchief again.
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>>317671473
what you mean you never heard of arthas sister?
she has never been in any game or books and you didint hear of her?
onyxia was pregnent also and the 10 whelps are high dragonkin lieutentns now
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>>317671463

>"get shit done"
>never actually did shit

She wasn't even in fucking ICC.
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Beyond fucking retarded, they better not force this cunt down my throat.
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>>317671463
>gets shit done
>literally cartoon villain tier incompetence
>gets her best forces trashed by a death knight leading a bunch of farmers
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>>317671242
>TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE THE HORDE GREAT AGAIN
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>>317671579
Hasn't Drek'thar retired and stuck in a wheelchair? Saurfang would be great option but I just can't see that happening any time soon
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>>317670080
>Warchief Grom Hellscream
It's what I've wanted ever since Warcraft 2 and WoW still can't make me care.
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>>317671553
Look I'd vote for Varian "Alright fuck off you're all fucking dead race war now" Wrynn but I can't.

>>317671560
Look man, I'm not gonna say it works, but it fucking works.
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>>317671712
>gets her best forces trashed by a death knight leading a bunch of farmers

When the hell did this happen?
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>>317671591

So she's the sister of one of the most important characters in WC3 AND it's expansion, but she's never mentioned or shown at all, despite being a member of the royal family.

AND, being the princess, she was never mentioned by anyone whatsoever, despite being one of the most important people in the entire fucking kingdom.
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LEAVE SYLVANAS ALONE
SHE WENT THROU ALOT OF STUFF

LEAVE HER ALONEEEEEEEE
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>>317671716
Yeah Drek'thar is pretty much senile now and can't even get around on his own. Also he's basically denounced the Horde for being pussies and letting the Forsaken run rampant.
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How does Tirion die?
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>>317671798
Yeah man going through 4 models is rough
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>>317671775
>andorhal
>deathguard vs militia vs scourge remnants
>deathguard gets trashed
>has to reanimate dead farmers
>loses her 1up
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>>317666061
>>317670696

How did Tirion die? Ever since quitting I only get my lore updates from expansion and patch bitching threads. Somehow I missed this.
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>>317671798
To be fair she actually did go through quite a bit.
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>>317671858
10$ says Sylvanas shanks him
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illidan for warchief?
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>>317671783
yeah dude you didint know about her?
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>>317665820
jesus how many things can you do wrong when someone seizes
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>>317671463

>let the undercity get taken over
>completely absent from ICC
>litte presence in Northrend quests
>getting
>shit
>done
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>>317671591
except a coin belonging to her can be fished up in dalaran sewers and shes in 1 book and mentioned in another
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>>317671798
She's still going through quite a bit isn't she? Isn't her body starting to rot pretty badly?
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>>317671895
>she went through quite a bit
yeah, and arthas went through a lot more.
so did jaina
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>>317671920
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>>317671882
He dies in the intro to Legion
>Airship crashed
>He gets separated
>Swarmed by Lehion
>Sees all the higher tier demons that we've never encountered before
>His faith is broken and he gives up
>Passes the Ashbringer to Ret Paladin PCs
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>>317671920
This would be the dumbest thing that will probably happen anyway
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>>317671980
>Jaina
Jaina is a cumdump, fuck Jaina.

I feel for Arthas, though.
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>>317671920
Keal'thas for Warchief

Sunwell Plateau was merely a setback.
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>>317672049
>>317671920
>yfw he takes over the Blood Elves
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>>317671716
Honestly, I would have liked to see Cairne be Warchief in crunch time and the horde take a more spiritual approach to repelling the legion from Azeroth. Unfortunately they already killed him off in a terrible anti climactic way.

So they are going full shadow magic again it seems. It feels so counter productive though, they keep telling us "now the horde will grow and embrace their shamanistic roots!" but then they put some hothead cutthroat on the throne which takes them right back to shadow magic and evil shit.

Then they spend all their time fighting corruption within themselves and never actually growing or developing beyond that.

This writing team leaves a lot to be desired desu.
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>>317672009

>sees a bunch of bad guys and then just gives up

Top tier Blizzard writing.
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>>317671980
Right, so Jaina will be Warchief next
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>Grom Hellscream
>Undead minion

oh no ORCS again
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>>317671973
>1 coin
wonder what super power she has, invisibility?
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>>317672073
>tfw playing the TFT campaign
>Arthas taunts Kael in the final campaign
how can one character lose everything and be so based?
>blizzard never hired justin gross back
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>>317666439
He's going to go give the Alliance ZG AIDS, isn't he?
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>>317672009
>His faith is broken and he gives up
Seriously? After all that bullshit that happened in WOTLK?
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>>317663091
Finally.
All hail the Dark Lady!
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>>317672009
>>His faith is broken and he gives up
>>Passes the Ashbringer to Ret Paladin PCs

That's so fucking beyond retarded I can't even get mad at it.
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>>317672139
>>317672195
He is swarmed by endless waves of Demons for literally weeks, including things that have never been seen before. In the first place, Tirion went into retirement as a Hermit because he was old, battered and sore. Now he's even older and more battered, he just hasn't got it anymore, so he passes the baton to new heroes.
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>>317672259
he dies
his soul has been datamined
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>>317670890
DO NOT BULLY LORETHMAR
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>>317672095
>Illidan keeps his promise to the Blood Elves even if they have the sunwell back
> Vashs' Naga cross from outland,
>The Illidari are back

>>317672259
Why is there so many dead Luffys?
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>>317672085
KT best husbando
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Sylvanas will probably end up how Kerrgian's character did in Starcraft.

dustin browder, pottery, all that nonsense.
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>>317663091
Can't wait for Vol'Jin to get corrupted by Gul'Dan so he can barricade himself in one of the Zul-raids so Blizzard can make the final raid in yet another recycled enviroment

Oh and Sylvanas will be the final boss in the next expansion aswell
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>>317672009
They literally are writing a single-player RPG now.
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>>317672095

>Implying Lor'themar wouldn't stomp his shit.

Nigga, Lor.themar is the most slept on race leader of them all. The only reason he hasn't become the musical chairchief is because Blizzard forgot he exists.
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>>317672416
The last episode of the epilogue is kicking my ass. I don't even get how you are supposed to win that shit.
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>>317672416
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME FUCK
BLIZZARD STOP RUNING YOUR OWN SHIT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK
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>>317664902
shes already dead
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>>317672295

>Tirion went into retirement as a Hermit because he was old, battered and sore.

What? He was fucking exiled.
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>>317672295
Passing the Ashbringer along due to being an old man who is longer capable of fighting is fine, Losing his faith on the other hand is not.
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>>317672458
>lorthemar
>capable of stomping on anyone's shit
>>317672416
then they can reuse that model
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So guys.

The golden question.

Who killed King Varian Wrynn?
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Neither faction is ever going to get a good leader. They will all either:
>Get corrupted and be fought as a boss
>Die fighting valiantly but not actually accomplishing anything
>Sit on their ass doing nothing forever
Each one will be succeeded by their child or most trusted lieutenant or whatever, only for the same shit to happen again. This shit isn't intrigue, Blizzard.
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>>317671371

>Horde will never have a proper fucking leader.

But that would mean making their leader make tough decisions that they would have to take responsibility for later.

Having them all get ''corrupted'' makes the Alliance the evils ones for being mean to Blizz's own ''dindunuffins."
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>>317672424

MMOs have started doing this for a while. Trying to give the "YOU, YOU ARE THE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!" single player experience over the "you're part of something greater than yourself" experience.


I wish WoW were just a spinoff and we got Warcraft 4 with actual story. The story at this point is irredeemable.
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>>317672583
>Who killed King Varian Wrynn?
Blizzard's writing team
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