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Are these the best Pokemon games in the entire franchise?

Yes, they are.
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is it bad that I like super more than sky?
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>>317654758
No, it's correct.
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>>317654758
I'm honestly tied in between.

I enjoyed Super more, but I liked Sky's story pacing better. They're both really fucking good games, especially compared to the main series.

How bad can Gamefreak be when Spike Chunsoft can make better Pokemon games than the Pokemon creators?
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>>317654018
Blue Rescue Team is still my favorite.
But yes, if Super is as good as everyone says it is.
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>>317655202
Rescue Team was my first ever DS game when I got it in 2006. I've played all of them now up to Super, and while I still kind of like Rescue Team, they just seem so basic compared to their successors now. But I can't really say too much against them because, hey, they were the firsts.
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Is Super really as good as people are saying?
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>>317655635
It tops Gates on everything, and it's pretty much at the same or at least near the same quality as Sky.

It's pretty good, dude.
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>>317655081
Chunsoft has the advantage of not being guaranteed millions of sales no matter what they make so the negative reaction to Gates lit a fire under their asses.
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>>317655635
No, we are all joking just to fool you.
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>>317655757
Hey, nothing wrong with being a skeptic. But seeing as how it looks good, has the second best 3DS metascore, has added challenge from what I've heard, and even /v/ seems to like it, it must be worth it.
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>>317655402
I just think the originals are the most charming, but Blue and Sky both rank in my top 5 games ever so it's not like I don't like the others.
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Is the music in Super up to par with previous entries in the series? Rescue Team and Explorers both have the only literal 10/10 soundtracks I've ever heard, but Gates to Infinity's soundtrack was forgettable dogshit, so I'm a little worried.
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>>317656061
The music is a complete step up from Gates.

Especially that final boss theme holy fucking shit man
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>>317656061
I'd say it's the best the series has had.
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>>317656061
It's as good as sky's in my opinion. Most dungeon themes will be in your head.
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>can't be pancham

Nah.
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My friend wants to see what the gameplay is like.

Anyone have a good video for that?
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So what exactly is the appeal of this series? People love the shit out of it but every single time I've tried a demo I just end up bored as balls.
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>>317656795
Demos don't do it justice, the love comes from the full experience of the game.

Also, don't play Gates. Just don't.
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>>317656795
It's not for everyone. It's basically babby's first rougelike with good story for the first 3 games, and then PSMD is actually pretty hard in terms of the series.

I'd recommend emulating Sky if you want to try the series out.

Also, don't play Gates.
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>>317656795
These type of games are better when you play them for a long period of time.
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>>317654758
Fuck, I really need to buy this game then.
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>>317656795
It's a Rogue-lite about pokemon and it's cute.
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>>317655202
Goddamn it Brian. Just accept the story doesn't make the gameplay, pokemon, ability, and moves added any less great.
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I never played Sky. Is it very different from Time/Darkness?
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>>317659554
The general story is the same, but Sky has 5 added special episodes with episode 5 a LOT to the aftermath of Dusknoir and Grovyle going back in time before Temporal Tower.
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>>317659768
with episode 5 adding a lot*

All the new special episodes are good but 5 is the most important to the main story.
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>Chapter 6
>just started Polywhirl River
>as a Water/Fire duo
What chapter does the story start to become crazy? I'm really liking the game but I try to explore all floors of every dungeon and I feel like anything that isn't a dungeon feels like a drag. Honestly contemplated telling my partner that I didn't want to be his friend but that's too rude of me.
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>Chapter 15
>Level 23
>5 quests available in Cape Wonder
>5 star difficulty

I could get so many pokemon and hit silver rank easily, but I don't even think my level 50 pokemons can handle it. Feels bad man. I like knocking out several quests in one go but I just don't think I can right now.
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>>317659884
Chapter 10 is where the story picks up a lot
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>>317659884
The beginning was honestly extremely slow, things start to go batshit much later
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>>317660205
>>317660286
Alright so I'm sorta almost there. Like I said I'm really enjoying the game for my first PMD but I don't want to slack off because of a certain section or something then never come back to the game. I seem to be doing alright so far too.
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>Implying the mystery dungeon series hasn't been horrible sense they've reduced the variety of pokemon you can start as to basically just the starters.
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>>317660536
That doesn't mean shit for the other content of the game nigga.
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>>317660392
Yeah, you're getting there. The remaining time until chapter 10 should should go by faster and your freedom will be opening up pretty soon too.

You're almost out of the worst of it, so keep on.

Just a heads up, Poliwrath River seems to be a casual filter for a lot of people.
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>>317660726
Yeah it does sense the gameplay/story is guaranteed to be pretty shallow. All you have is the variety of pokemon you can play as to make the game repayable/interesting. I stopped playing after explorers of time.
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>>317660536
who exactly are you missing out on? all the 5th and 6th gen starters are amazing to start with.
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>>317660841
Alright. Any advice for when the game opens up? I'd like to do as many sidequests and whatnot as I can but I don't want to make myself lost or overburden myself or something.

Okay I'll be careful in here. The only problem I seem to have is running out of PP once completely when I couldn't find any Elixirs but that's about it.
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>>317660890
ALL THE STARTERS ARE CLONES THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT IS THEIR SLIGHTLY VARIED MOVESETS AND THEIR DESIGN.

I liked cubone, meowth, and munchlax.
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>>317660873
The story is the same no matter what character you are, it's just that there's a different Pokemon.
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Just passed the Poliwrath's River chapter pretty easily using the Bulldoze Emera.

So far the game has been pretty easy. When does the game get difficult?
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>>317661016
Yeah I know but you can replay and roleplay. Also the different types you play as changes your strategy and experience.
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>>317660991
>all of them are clones!
>but they have different movesets and design!

so are they the same or not? pick one.
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>>317661103
>emera

That's why.
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>>317661180
How they look doesn't change your gameplay.

The fact that one can learn leafblade while another learns leaf storm isn't a significant difference.
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>>317660873
>the gameplay/story is guaranteed to be pretty shallow
are we playing the same fucking games
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>>317661220
Should I not be using Emera? Are they needed later on?

Thinking about ditching the looplets to give myself a challenge
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>>317661308
The gameplay isn't very complicated and is easy enough for children to understand.

The stories aren't horrible but they aren't spectacular either.
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>>317661286
but both of those moves are way different. they both do damage but different types and have different effects. I fail to see the similarity. I've only gotten to chapter 6 as Chespin and Fennekin, lots of grass types get vine whip, but eventually he gets more defensive options, Fennekin has psybeam which I'm pretty sure no other fire type gets to have.
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>>317661507
Not him but where can I find out if my team gets any cool moves?
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>lava island
>get barrage, bulldozer and attack up x and y on chikorita

Magmortar didn't last a turn
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>>317661357
As far as I know, they're just shitty stat-boosts.

If the game is too easy for you, you probably shouldn't be using them.
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>>317661507
>There's a few moves that are different!
>SLIGHTLY VARIED MOVESETS

You aren't contradicting me. Maybe if you could evolve before the end of the game the types would make a significant difference but you can't even do that.

I'd like to see more variety of pokemon like the first few games or, hopefully, more. Hell, I'd even take dlc.
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>>317661115
>roleplay

Oh, so you're a faggot.
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>>317661792
you realize we're adults talking about playing a game designed for children right? We're all faggots.
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I know you murikans have only had it a little while but how's the post game looking? Any more fun bullshit level 1 dungeons? What about legendary hunting?
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>>317661891
Fucking this.
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>Generic roguelike gameplay only with Pokemon
>best in the Pokemon series

Yeah, no.
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>>317656958
>>317657265
>>317657319
>>317658216
I guess I'll just emulate Sky and see how far I get. What's so bad about Gates to Infinity? Most I know about it is that the reception was frosty at best.
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>>317662062
Keep trying
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>>317661308
Yeah im with this guy >>317661448
I like the games and i've played them all except gates but their stories are severely overhyped.
Even saying "the story is good" is selling it too high, it's just adequate.
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>>317662102
>Frosty
Nice one.
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>>317661624
>next fight

holy shit
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Reminder for everyone who likes PMD to try out other Mystery Dungeon games
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So did you guys roll with what the quiz gave you? I ended up as Totodile and switched the partner for Fennekin.
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>>317662062
Honestly its not like there's much competition. "Generic roguelike gameplay only with Pokemon" can easily top out the rest of the franchise
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Chapter 6, Poliwrath river, got to floor 8 until a charged up Luxio (I think) one shot my Squirtle and forced me to waste a Reviver seed. Ended up losing to the Poliwrath brothers since I ran out of healing items and had to start over from floor one. Yeah I'm gonna take a break.
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>>317662195
What?
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>>317662698
The final boss in gates is a snowflake.
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>>317662698

Game was straight garbage, man. Some of the mechanics were improved, but dungeons were far too easy and the story wasn't engaging at all. I played through it and convinced my friends to skip it.
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Just got Gold Explorer Rank. Should I trade in Gold Bars for money to buy moves from Hawlucha, or buy stat-ups?
Also, when do, and should I evolve? Got my partner back.
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>>317662396
I got piplup and went with it gladly, but swapped riolu for snivy.
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Good partner for Piplup?
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>>317662628
I only made it to Floor 4. I can see how this is a casual filter now holy shit.
>Heliolisk hits you from a screen away for 38 damage!
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>>317663732
Just live in the hallways and bait them into coming to you. Works really well if either you or your partner has a ranged move, for that extra damage.
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I'm thinking of playing Froakie and Treecko, am I going to have a hard time /v/?
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>>317664201
no
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>>317663945
Hm I'll try. Didn't even know that's what they were until I went into the room.
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Pokemon Pinball R&S is better.
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>>317664201
>I'm thinking of playing Froakie

you'll be fine
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I literally know nothing about the mystery dungeon games.

I have a flash cart for my DSLite, where should I start? What do the games even play like? What are they about? What's a Mystery Dungeon?
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>>317661746
>it's not variety because starters
>despite the fact that each starter has their own moveset
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Wish I could rename my partner.
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>Don't give up
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>>317664983
I don't remember Sora being such a baby-face.
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>>317664930

u can tho
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>>317664983
BAM
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>>317664810
>has a few different moves
>IT HAS IT"S OWN MOVESET
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>>317664615
Is it really that good? I want challenge but I also want to use Pokémon I like...
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Espurr cutest girl
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>>317664617
Play Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Sky. It doesn't matter which one you start but just know that Blue Rescue Team is a LITTLE basic compared to the rest but it's the start of the series so it gets that excuse.

The game play like a roguelike. You're in a dungeon with usually a party of UP to 4 (or 3 in SMD), but you usually go in with your partner a lot. There are items called orbs that can do various things like put a whole room of enemies to sleep or confuse. Or even buff up your team with higher stats for a limited time. There are other orbs that can do things outside of stats like make the entire floor you are on visible. It's turn based if every movement, and every attack you use. There are some moves that are ranged that can hit Pokemon across the room or even effect the whole room itself.

A Mystery Dungeon just refers to every dungeon in the game, a randomly generated dungeon with random placements of items, Pokemon, stairs to move on, etc.
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>>317665319
Best girl.
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>>317664983
>Don't ya'll give up
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>>317665460
>(or 3 in SMD)
Are you serious? Isn't this kind of important? Why is nobody talking about it? Why did I just hear about it now?
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That Salamence though? What a wall. Took so much hax to beat and then I found out I can use him. Fucking lvl 50 too. What the hell is with the difficulty curve and the necessity to grind to get your starters up to a decent level?
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>>317657265
>babbys first Roguelike

So am I correct in assuming you can just easily cheese the game by bringing Pokemon with an elemental advantage in the dungeon they're in (For example. bringing Bird pokemon in a bug dungeon, for example)
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>That difficulty jump at Poliwrath River
Alright, I'm really getting into this game now.
It's ridiculous that it's so easy to obtain a fucking level 50 Salamence right afterwards if you know what you're doing with sleep wands. and Alliances.
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>>317665709
It's really not that important because the game gives you more support characters in some story dungeons (there's even a dungeon in the story where you have 3 party members, and 4 support members. 7 Pokemon on your side)

Every dungeon is pretty balanced and challenging depending on your skill (I'm serious), no matter the amount of Pokemon you have.
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>>317665709
You very, very frequently have an NPC guest character taking up a fourth 'slot'.
Also, four player Alliance attacks would probably be OP as shit.
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>>317665831
Yes, but you often don't have those opportunities during the story. It's more about your moveset and how versatile it is. You can do that during postgame, however.
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If you don't care about Mystery Dungeon, AT LEAST listen to best song in all of Pokemon.

Spoiler alert, it's PSMD's final boss theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjXtQ0XwlI
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>>317665218
How
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>>317666158
Check the main menu
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>>317665927
H-how?
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>>317666225
I've looked all around already. Am I missing something obvious?
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>>317662102
>What's so bad about Gates to Infinity?

Shit Roster
Poor dungeon Layout
Shit Final boss

Thats pretty much it really, Gates did a lot of shit right, its probably like the 3rd best in the series, Red/Blue feel dated as fuck.
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>>317666142
Nothing will ever beat Sky Tower from Rescue Team as the best song from any Pokemon game.
In fact, this isn't even half as good as the Rayquaza battle theme from RT or the Primal Dialga battle theme from Explorers.
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Genuinely surprised by how good a lot of the dungeon music is in Super. The ones from past games didn't stick in my head too much but I already love this one a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictmv9TbGJU
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>>317666353
On the title screen, dumbass.
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>>317666458
I don't know, man.
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>>317666484
Then say title screen. When you say main menu, I assume the in-game menu.
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>>317666241
I just kept him asleep with repeated sleep wands and slammed him with team attacks whenever I had the chance, while Axew did most of the heavy lifting with Dragon Rage.
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>>317665273
>few

nigger if anything they have a diverse set with only few shared moves
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>>317665298
If you want a challenge then don't get Ice beam or a Sp.A Looplet
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>>317666458
>isn't even half as good
You've gotta be fucking kidding.
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>>317656540
Fucking this. He's my favorite character, and in this game he's a fucking bully. It's a bad day for Pancham fans.
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>>317666771
It really isn't, it never really picks up or anything. It's not memorable.
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>>317666565

Main menu has literally always meant the title screen since the beginning of vidya history
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>>317666864
Speak for yourself nig
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>>317666468
I'm getting older PMD vibes from this, I fucking love it. Every track I've heard from this game was painfully reminiscent of Gates but this restored my faith completely.
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>>317666662
>Literally only grass, fire, water, electric, and fighting types represented
>Doesn't see the problem with only having 5 out of the 18 types of pokemon represented.

Nigger you're retarded if you think that's "diverse."
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>>317667018

The point is to ease you in dumbass.

Ever wonder why Dragon types are always towards the end of Pokemon games?

The Grass > Water > Fire > Grass triangle is simple to learn and good for early game balance.
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>>317666878
Well alright. I got it changed now so thanks dude, that really helped me a lot.

Last question: What's on Pelipper Island?
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>>317667295
There shouldn't be any problems with early game balance if you have early areas that play to the strengths and weaknesses of each element. NIGGER YOU'RE ACTUALLY DEFENDING THIS WEAK SHIT.

The first game had more diversity than this. They should have more not less variety as the series progresses.
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>started playing Mystery Dungeon games in prep for Super
>only have Blue Rescue Team
>it's pretty good; up to Moltres
>hear lots of good things about Explorers of Sky and Super Mystery Dungeon
>really want to play them and come back to Blue Rescue later

Is there any overarching plot I'd be lost on by skipping to Super then playing Sky?
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People are calling this better than Explorers of Sky, and that alone made my want it. But then people said the final boss music is even better than the Explorers final boss music, and I simply couldn't believe it.

But then I heard it. Holy fuck, what even happened with Gates because this is just too fucking good.
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Should I be exploring all rooms of all floors or try to progress as fast as possible? Or just see how I'm doing based on item findings and such?
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>>317667574
It wouldn't be a problem if adding variety wouldn't make you choose from 50 fucking pokemon at this point. There are literally 18 different starters now.
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>>317667731
It depends on how you want to play, and that's completely up to you.
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Do you need the circle pad for this game? Mine is broked and makes it annoying to play anything, so I'd rather use the d pad. or do I need a new 3ds, I only have the old version
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>>317667873
Well I normally explore anything I can and all areas so I've been doing that. Don't wanna be underleveled or something.
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>>317667892
D-pad works fine.
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>>317667892
You can use the D pad. For some reason the circle pad makes my character move slower than using the dpad.
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>>317667574
>if you have early areas that play to the strengths and weaknesses of each element
>there are currently 18 Pokemon types with varying weaknesses, strengths and resistances.

Would be literally impossible to balance the starting area among 18 different types unless every Pokemon you found in the starting area was normal type. And even then fighting types would have an advantage.

You can recruit every Pokemon in the game anyway. It's not like you're stuck with just grass, fire or water.
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>>317667758
Which shouldn't be a problem because they already have most of those pokemon in the game anyway. Just make them playable at the beginning.
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>>317667018
>he thinks type determines the moveset

ebin
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>>317668015
It wouldn't be hard because you just need to make different areas with different elements and some elements are strong against multiple things. Like ice is strong against grass and dragon types.
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>>317668029

Starters are the most popular Pokemon. You're gonna have to get over that.
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I never played one of these, should I start with the GBA version or the newest one?
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>>317668146

We're talking about STARTING area though.
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>>317668157
and even then just because starters share types doesn't mean they share the same moveset, which that faggot assumes

hell if anything, having a bulk of normal types mean being samey considering normal types are actually the ones with homogeneous moveset
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>>317665831
>>317666079
the postgame doesn't really have strongly typed dungeons.
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Are there no IQ skills in Super? Or did the shitty Gen V game remove them?
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I don't really get the hype, though to be fair this is my first mystery dungeon game so I wasn't sure what to expect

The dungeon crawling is honestly pretty lame, and the combat (so far) is as deep as a puddle. Just use a ranged move to pick of anything before it gets close, and use a confuse/sleep/whatever wand on anything that gets close

Though to be fair, I'm not very far in. Just got past Glistening Mountain. But every dungeon has felt the exact same and I'm already bored of the formula. Does it pick up at all?
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Uhh, guys?
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>>317668201
Try emulating an older one to see if you like this kind of game. If you have fun, play at least Explorers of Sky and Super. If you don't like one of the older ones, you won't like Super.
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>>317667627
No, all the plots are completely separate and it hurts nothing to start with any of them. There's cameos in Super you wouldn't get, but that doesn't effect anything.
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>>317668259
>>317668094
I never said that type determines moveset but you have to admit for 50% of the game the starters share basically 90% of their learned moves.

OH SWEET MY CHIMCHAR AND CHARMANDER BOTH LEARNED EMBER. HOW UNIQUE!
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>>317668295
The difficulty takes a laaaarge jump around Poliwrath River, and after that you start recruitinf new Pokemon. You're still in the tutorial.
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>>317667892
In my experience the d-pad works better for Mystery Dungeon anyways, because the game's completely grid based.
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>>317667627
So far from what I've seen, its all just character references. You can add 720 pokemon and some of them are from rescue teams in previous games. I'm probably missing Gates to Infinity references, but it's not really a bother.

You should at least beat Blue Rescue team's story first and then play the other games, since your already halfway through the story.
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>>317662102
The problem with Gates is entirely in its content. Five starters when the last game had 19, less than 150 recruitable Pokémon when the last game had 492, that alone takes a lot away from it.

Oh, and really slow text speed (haven't played PSMD yet so I don't know if that's fixed, I assume it is since I haven't seen complaints about it). And shitty paid DLC but you don't actually get anything exclusive by getting it.
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>>317668295
>implying you have the wands to do that
also bosses resist most statuses.
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>>317668421
>cherrypicking on one single move and outright ignoring the rest of their moveset (one learns a bunch of physical moves of different types while the other has a plethora of dragon type moves)

impressive
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>>317668292
Yeah, Gates removed them, did Super seriously not add them back? Fuckin lame, I loved that shit.
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http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon

> 76
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At least they are way better than the main games.
Not only do they have better gameplay but the whole concept, the characters, story and art style is better.
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>>317668613
>a PMD game is getting good reviews
hell has frozen over
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>>317654018
Don't forget red! Sure, it's no sky or super, but it sure was a hell of a lot of fun!
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>>317668331
CUNFRIMED
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>>317668613
The series has never been liked by critics. It's just too niche, since you need to like both roguelikes and pokemon to really get into it.
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Atk or S.Atk looplet?
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>>317668547
It's even better when you consider that these will be the same pokemon you have to play as for the following sequels of these games. ONLY STARTERS FOREVER. HOW FUN!

Wait what? You didn't like playing as charmander for the last 5 games? LMAO to bad nigger get used to it.
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Sky was the only one I haven't played. How much of it is different from Time?
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>>317668796
the main reason why it's low is that the game somehow got a shit music score
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>use a petrify/slumber/paralysis orb on a boss
>all the powerful pokemon immediately recover
I'm kind of disappointed that I can't cheese bosses anymore, but it's nice to finally have a challenge. Confusion and other other effects still work well though.
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>>317654018
So is this game worth the buy? I loved the first two games and still play them every now and then. Is this game more balanced than the other two, and can I still pick my niggas Totodile and Bulbasaur?
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>>317668331
>>317668778
>I thought it was referring to the Unown letter
>but he is the Z, it wouldn't make sense if he talks like that

oh shit
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>>317668869
Not very, same story but they added things. All good things, mind you, but nothing incredibly important.
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>>317656795
>good story
>likable characters
>better combat system
>doesn't feel as stale as the main games
>better soundtrack
>less gamey when talking about immersion
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>>317668589
Even more evidence that Gen V is the worst thing to happen to pokemon
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>>317668921
Yes, yes, and yes.
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>>317668880
>PMD
>shit music score

>>317668862
it has always been starters anon, the rest are just bonus
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>Doesn't come out until Feb 20th in Australia
>Will most likely be busy with FF Explorers at that time

Feels bad, man
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>>317669037
Guess I'll pick it up when I get off work. Thanks m80
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>>317667627
I'd finish Blue. There are little references in Super you'd miss, and all its sequels have improvement that make Blue a bit dated in comparison.
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>Mfw Revelation Mountain
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Aside from the starters, what are your teams/planned teams?
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>>317669040
>Music / Sound FX / Voice Acting
>3.5
>The music is quite pleasant, but not particularly exciting.
at least it got a perfect graphics score
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>>317656795
When you get into the story and get a feel for the characters it starts getting more engaging.
Though I agree with some here, it's definitely not a game a huge majority can get into easily
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so is mega evolution handled as horribly in this game as it's being handled in the main series? i don't even want to play the game if the story's going to be about it, the most i want is for them to mention that it exists, if even that.
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>>317668862
Just pick a different starter then. There's literally no way you've played as Chespin, Fennekin or Froakie in mystery dungeon before.
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>he looks up a chart to pick his favourite starter instead of just rolling what the test gives

if you do this on your first playthrough: hang yourself
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>>317669156
>mfw
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>>317669206
Yeah because they're not much different then fire starter a, water starter b, or grass start c. I'm not going to buy the same game 5 times. I'll stick to playing red and blue rescue team. At least then I'll have more variety.
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Honestly I'm loving it, just wish they kept in the random recruitment mechanic from the previous games
OST and story so far is pretty great though
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>>317669256
You can just say no and pick whatever you want now. This means even the game devs disagree with you.
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>>317669319
Oh now I get it, it's a Rescuefag
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>>317669256
This is my first PMD game and I went with the quiz results. RIDE TILL I DIE
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>>317668383
>>317668471
Thanks I'll stick with Blue. Didn't know I passed the halfway point already. I do like how the plot is progressing which is something I barely notice for most mainline games sans B/W. I guess part of me doesn't want to miss the board discussion while Super is still new and I've been playing lots of RPGs lately and getting kinda burned out.
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>>317669321
>just wish they kept in the random recruitment mechanic from the previous games
did they not? what's it like now? that's a pretty important mechanic to change.
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>>317668613
Better than expected. Don't PMD games usually get reviews in the mid-60s, and Sky got one in the 50s? The fact that this is supposedly the hardest game yet got better than average reviews is surprising.
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DIIICKSOOON!
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>>317669256
I'd agree with you if the wasn't so randomized. It's literally impossible to get certain starters on certain variations of the test because some questions don't come up.

If they just had one test then I'd roll with whatever poke they gave me.
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>>317669256
>Run the risk of being assigned to one of the godawful Gen 5 starters
Nah, no thanks
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>>317668331
And then he connects you to Unknown X and Unknown Y.
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>>317669471
It's much better now, you have connection orbs.
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>>317668542

I have so far. Most things die to razor leaf/psybeam/vacuum punch/quick attack before they get close. It's not often I have too use a wand, but I tend to have 9-12 uses per dungeon at least, and that's been plenty

There's only been one boss so far, and I just decimated it with the fire breath seeds
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>>317669472
It's based on a single review right now. It'll probably drop
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>>317668613
>user score was 9.4 some hours ago
>all reviews were found helpful by everyone

>now it's 8.9
>now there are people who don't agree with reviews

HMMMMMMMMMM
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Is this game literally Xenoblade 2.0?
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>>317669520
But all the base forms of the Gen 5 starters are cute. I don't like some of their evolutions but I never evolve my starter or partner in PMD.
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>>317669471
You do missions for pokemon to recruit them now, I don't think they can evolve if you get them from missions either. You'll have to get their evolution from the new connection orb mechanic as well.
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New to the series. I got gangbanged in poliwrath dungeon

Help me out brehs
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Why is every parent a single parent in this game? Also we never see the parents of the other cast. It is implied Goomy has a mom and dad but we never see them.

Not that I mind though, there's a sexy single dad neighbor.
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>>317669771
They're completely separate genres, I'm pretty sure, isn't Xenoblade an JRPG with MMO-esque combat (not trashing it, just asking since I haven't played)?
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>>317668421

Actually I've found that to be entirely false and why it's been so hard for me to choose a starter.

The Grass ones for example.

Bulbasaur gets status effect moves like Sludge, Poison Powder and Sleep Powder.

Chikorita gets more support moves like the barriers and healing moves.

Treecko is going to be your more offensive oriented one with Dragon Breath, Quick Attack and Absorb to keep itself alive.

Turtwig is your defensive tank. He gets Withdraw to keep his defense up and Sand Tomb to bind the opponent and keep them from attacking.

Snivy is going to be your buff slut with Coil and Growth and then Twister and Wrap to keep them bound up so he can go for easy sweeps.

Finally Chespin has your multi-hit moves.

This is all basic knowledge to people who actually played the game.
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>>317669520
All their first stages are great, which is what you mostly play as in MD games.
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>>317669869
Like I said it's a rescuefag, pay no heed to him
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>>317669380
>they pander to my babby needs
>they agree with me
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>going to Pelipper Island for a "rescue" for the first time
WHAT AM I DOING
WHAT AM I IN FOR
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>>317669787
Give me a bit anon. I'll help you out.
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>>317668331
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>>317669778
You can evolve them later, but because you can only get one of each Pokemon with this system, you'd lose access to the lower form and have doubles of the higher form.
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>>317669905
>>317669774
Tepig and Autism Snake are shit and ugly
Oshawott is cute though
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>>317669156
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>>317669256
this. team red I got psyduck and team sky I got Chikorita

I wouldn't love those 2 if I just had picked what i already liked
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I've never played the PMD games before, didn't seem like my cup of tea or even good (just the impression I got). Suddenly I'm seeing everyone everywhere gush about the new one.

Should I play these games? Should I start from the very first one or just pick up the latest one? I actually have a demo cart of the GBA one that was inside a demo GBA SP I got from a retail job several years ago, but I never even tried it.
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>>317670076
>autism snake

If we're hating Pokémon based on Deviantards I've seen way too much fetish art for Oshawott. I don't call it Vore Otter though.
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>>317669927
Fuck you, if I'm going be stuck with a Pokemon for the whole plot, it better be one I like.
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>>317669256
Fuck you, the questions are randomized, which can make it impossible to get certain natures. Getting timid in rescue team was near impossible on the first try.
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I would buy this but I don't know if I'll like playing it. Had Blue years back but was during my "Action Replay" phase. So I don't have a lot of experience with this series and a good opinion of it. I don't want to pay full-price for another spin-off that I get stuck on and don't finally beat for a few years (Rumble Blast, just beat the story a few days ago).

Is hunger still a thing?
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>>317670194
I honestly just forget it's name all the time because gen 5 was so shit
I just remember it's final form's name
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>>317670192
It's my first PMD game and I've got about seven hours in it so far. Surprising how enjoyable it is.

>>317670227
Are there any specific traits that are particularly good or bad?
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>>317670194
charmander is full on diaper and vore
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>>317670297
Yes it is, but it isn't really hard to maintain. You get a good amount of apples. Just carry a few to be safe. Some dungeons don't have any or have like 2.
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>>317669778
>you get them from missions
i hope this is better in practice than it sounds, because right now it sounds fucking terrible
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>>317670192
The first one is a good start. Rescue Team and Explorers are both great games, I think the latter edges out the former with its improvements but Rescue Team is still really competent.

Also the game is pretty barebones at the start, I don't think a short demo is going to suck you in, the game doesn't get good for a while.

>>317670297
Yeah. Hunger got removed from the third game but brought back for the fourth. It's honestly better with hunger than without, even if I just put on a Stamina belt and bring 1-2 Big Apples and never have to worry about it outside postgame 99 floor dungeons.
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>>317670076
>the two that look good are ugly
>but the ugliest pokemon in existence is cute
how shit does your taste have to be, holy fuck anon get a grip
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>>317670484
nigga it's great

also they balance it out, the higher the level the mon is that you recruited vs. your level, the more often they go "closed", meaning you can't use them after awhile and have to run a few more dungeons before they open up again

>>317670529
I wouldn't say the start of the game is bad, it just means the start of the game is slow and has so much building
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>mfw generating Wonder mails in explorers of time to get items/golden seeds/recruits etc

Man I miss that shit.
Is it back in Super?
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>>317670484
You take a mission from a Pokemon and it joins you when you beat it, and also unlocks more missions. I like it better than the old random method, honestly.
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>>317669932
Is there any reason to explore with the NPC rescue party? Wouldn't I just beeline through to rescue my main team?
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>>317670368
The traits don't do anything other than determine what Pokemon you'll be. The old games forced you to get Brave to play as Charmander for example. You didnt get a choice, it was either take what you were assigned or restart. Sometimes you wouldn't even get the questions you needed to get certain personality types and you'd have to try a bunch of times to get what you want.
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>>317670565
Oshawott is cute! CUTE!
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>>317670368
Nah, they just determine which pokemon you are. Scoring timid on the test gives you cyndaquil for example.
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>>317670710
Okay then. I kind of feel like Mudkip isn't any spectacular but I do like its facial expressions.
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>Go with the best base form
>Go with the best final evolution

Tough choices.
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>>317655081
I would have enjoyed Sky's pacing a lot more if every 5 minutes you didnt get a flashback to a cutscene you LITERALLY JUST WATCHED
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>roll with Treecko like I do all the time
>forget that my bro Serperior is in the game
>just saved Goomy for the second time
I feel like restarting
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>>317670918
Ok yeah, I'll give you that.
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>>317670786
Does one trait = one Pokemon specifically or does it narrow the random selection down out of X amount that have that trait?
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daily reminder that he is a pedophile
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>>317670914
So you're torn between Chespin and Totodile?
That is quite the conundrum.
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>>317669787
Here anon. I saved you and sent a revive seed.
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>>317654018
>CURRENT YEAR
>you still can't see the items you give your pokemon appear on their models in the mainline games
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>>317670918
I think they were anticipating school kids that only get to play for like 30 min a day that might actually have forgotten things, but yeah, it was pretty annoying.
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>>317671039
>the deviantards are already forming their retarded headcannon
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>>317671084
H-hey, I've gotta save my own team in the same place with this NPC group. Should I just head straight to my main team ASAP?
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/r/ing the "Are you satisfied" totodile picture
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>>317671112
What did he say that made /pol/tards mad? I've seen this 2015 meme everywhere
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>>317671112
>>317671161
you seem to be lost anon
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>>317671186
Just go back to Peliper Island and choose receive mail. It will probably be faster.
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>>317671228
He essentially used "It's 2015" as an answer for every argument.
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>>317671062
>Good base forms shit final forms
>Bulbasaur
>Totodile
>Cyndaquil
>Gen V
>Froakie

>Good final form shit base form
>Chesnaught
>Delphox
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