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VOLJIN MISSING SYLVANAS IS THE NEW WARCHIEF oh and Varian Wrynn
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VOLJIN MISSING

SYLVANAS IS THE NEW WARCHIEF

oh and Varian Wrynn is dead.
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>>317630717
>SYLVANAS IS THE NEW WARCHIEF

I'd like to hear them try and say this isn't pandering.
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>>317630717
Sylvanas a best. Pretty much the most competent Horde leader.
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>>317630717
source
http://legion.wowhead.com/news=250090/legion-added-to-battle-net-client-database-updates-champions-missions-spoilers
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>>317630717
>and Varian Wrynn is dead
Ah, so Varian is missing, correct? That means he is an upcoming villain.
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>>317631361
dunno about that but the quest says that he is dead and Anduin is the new king.

But I bet he will come back and the end of Legion with a lust for revenge
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>>317631135

She's been killed how many times now?
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>>317631675
>>317631361

There's a Funeral event that was just dug up.

Varian is dead
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>>317631785

That's kind of the point of an undead.
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>>317632002

No, not really. She only has so many Val'kyrs now, and a few more deaths and she's off to oblivion.

Read the fucking text in the game from time to time. She is the only one that can do that, as other Undeads can and will die.
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>>317632002

>any other Horde leader dies or loses a battle
>there's some huge power struggle or timeline/universe shift

>Sylvanas dies
>it's ok, she'll be back in 5 minutes
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>>317630717
>SYLVANAS IS THE NEW WARCHIEF

Feminist wettest dreams.
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>>317632536

>implying feminists care

It's for the fanservice. They want to dress Sylvanas up in more outfits and show off her midriff.
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>>317630717
http://beta.wowdb.com/npcs/96189-grom-hellscream

GROM IS BACK
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>>317632536
Actually everyone wanted her to be the warchief instead of Vol'Jin, so this like almost everything is just pandering for players to come back
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>>317632727
>undead
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>>317630717
>>317631272
Well fuck, you got me blizzard. Take my money.
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>>317632727
AND FUCKING BOLVAR AND TURALYON
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>>317632660

They covered it up, and made her immensely less attractive.
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Can someone explain to me why Blood Elves are part of the horde anyways? All I remember is Kael Thas getting bullied by a guy who claimed to not like non-humans yet allied with dwarves, demons, and zombies
Why does that make the elves suddenly friends with orcs, the undead, and oversized cows?
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>>317632834

Bolvar helps mainly Frost Death Knights, but he does speak with all Death Knights during the process of making their Artifacts. He'll be important after Legion, because we're going to need his help.
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>>317632660

If this was 2005 Blizzard, I'd believe you. Not 2015 Blizzard. They literally just covered up her midriff because of one SJW.

The intention was for "strong womyn" and "incusionist" pandering, just like every single character in Overwatch.
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>Garithos resurrected
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>>317633146
I'll believe that when they make Tyrande relevant and competent again.
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>>317632913
Alliance treated them pretty badly, didn't trust them and had spies in Quel'Thalas. Forsaken were nice to them, helped them recover and vouched for their Horde membership.
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>>317632913
Kael worked with naga, humans hate naga, blood elves despised by humans, go beg horde to take them to outland, learn kael doesn't give a shit about his people anymore, stay with horde rather than be alone
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>>317632913

Basically they fit the "underdog" theme of each member of the Horde, since they're half a kingdom with 90% of their people dead with a massive scar of undeath constantly seiging the city with a big ass empire of trolls breathing down their neck waiting to literally eat them. And the Alliance refused to help them in any way, so they asked the other team who was fine with it because Thrall.

Can't say it didn't pay off since they single-handedly closed the player faction gap and are the de facto magic experts whenever Horde needs them.
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>>317631913
and have metzen miss an opportunity to do another corruption story, yeah right
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>>317631272
they have my attention
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>>317633365

Tyrande is too much of a "male fantasy"

Sylvanas gets covered up and made more undead/threatening looking.

Alliance will get a new bull dyke as their leader.
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I think Varian is missing, not dead. They assume he's dead.
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>>317633365
they don't need now that fucboi Malfurion woke up
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>>317633991
This is Khadgars quote from a quest

"THE LEGION COMES!

THE MIGHT OF AZEROTH HAS FALLEN|r

King Varian Wrynn of Stormwind is dead. Warchief Vol'Jin of Orgrimmar is missing in action.

Any remaining heroes willing and able to defend our world should report to the Violet Citadel in Dalaran and speak to Archmage Khadgar and the Council of Six immediately!"
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>>317632430

>This is considered lore instead of pandering

this is... huh... WOW
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>>317630717
Thank god that troll faggot is gone, I´d take any other race leader over him
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>>317634148
>implying sylvanas isn't going to make him undead for drama reasons
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last raid probably
>overthrow sylvanas and become the warchief/king!
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>based vol'jin barely got any development as warchief and just disappears right after

god damn it why even make him warchief in the first place then
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>>317634459

It really will be, won't it?

There's nowhere else to go. Players will literally have legendary items in EVERY SLOT this expansion. They are the "leaders" of their class. They are on a first-name basis with every major lore character. Even Kiljaeden and Archimonde reference them personally.

All that's left is Sargeras swooping down from the Twisting Nether and calling the player the chosen one, or becoming the warchief/king.
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REMINDER
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>>317634459

>every player is now the king of the Alliance or warchief of the horde
>have to make a unique instanced version of Stormwind and Orgrimmar for everyone
>it's a fucking ghost town with nothing but a few NPCs running around

Oh, but you can invite other people to your town so you can twitter your facebooks together social media is so hip ecks dee
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This is fucking hilarious.
Way to go Blizzard.
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>>317634475
they're storing him away for Corrupted Storyline #5328
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>>317634729
>no midriff

ded gaem
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>>317634729
>player fixes sylvanas outfit
>they ban him from the forums

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19973037409
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>>317634449
>Now I understand your plight, Sylvannas. I will join you. For the HORDE!
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>>317634729

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Almost all of the awesome characters I loved in WC3 are gone now in wow. just...no...fuck this. This is why I don't play this game. I might give in tho and try wotlk/bc/vanilla on a private server.
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>>317634907

Actually, that looks good because it fucking matches.
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>>317634907
That's not bad. I still miss dat midriff though.
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MEANWHILE Thrall defeats Sargeras and destroys the Burning Legion by becoming half Titan-half Old God
The next expansion deals with him being corrupted and you won't defeat him in the expansion.
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>>317634907
>they ban him from the forums
how do you know they banned him?
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>>317635047

Everyone dies. Especially when you create a universe of unending war and make up some new drama every expansion. Some might even call it a

World of Warcraft
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>>317630717
>Fans want more alliance characters showing up
>Blizzard finally goes through with it
>put in fucking Varian yet again
I can't tell if they are clueless or just trolling the fans
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>>317634907
Where does it say he got banned?
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>VOLJIN MISSING

RASTAKHAN CONFIRMED

TROLL RAID 5.0 GET HYPE
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>>317635394
clueless, Metzen still believes everyone likes his other self insert
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>>317630717
Like anybody with half a brain would care about wow lore or story anymore.
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>>317630717
Also the Lich King's back.
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>Calia Menethil

Oh i knew they were gonna pull this shit one day, shes gonna come back & help the Alliance retake Lordaeron
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>>317635176
At this point I would welcome it. Let Thrall swoop in and wipe this shitfest clean.
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>>317634729

My God it just looks so bad. I could get over Sylvanas losing her midriff if it just looked GOOD.
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>Mograine will be your Death Knight buddy
Kickass
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>Vol'jin doesn't even get to lead the horde for 2 expansions

I was an alliance plaer and this is outrageous. Fuck the forsaken fans.
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>Calia Menethil
Arthas redemption story please. What happened to him was so fucking anti-climactic.
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Alright so who has the worst artifact weapon so far?

I think my vote overall goes to the Beastmaster Hunter gun. It doesn't even look like you can hold any of them properly.

Second vote goes to Doomhammer. Easily the most recognizable artifact weapon and they ruin it with the overdesigned garbage reskins and giving it to Enhancement shamans.
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>Warlocks can't summon Observers, Shivarras or voidlords anymore.

If it wasn't for this I would actually come back.
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>>317635952

All of them except Gorehowl.
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>>317632241
she's a video game character she's not real. none of them are.
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>>317635734
I kind of liked the sis-con dk on the alliance side better.
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>>317634729
REMINDER THAT CHRIS "CUC KLORD" METZEN MADE THIS DESIGN CHANGE BECAUSE HIS DAUGHTER WHINED ABOUT THE MIDRIFF
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>>317635526

Is Zul still alive? I'm betting for another CORRUPTION storyline where the only way to revive the Troll race was to ally with the Legion.
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>>317635952
Most of them look decent while for me rogue dagger look like pure shit,same story with shaman.My favorites are druid/warlock because they fit well.
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rogues are actually really the most nerfed class in the game

every class has stealth now

assassination is some homo poison spec instead of a insta gib crit spec hence the name assassination
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>>317636168
What a stupid fucking post
Next time you think you have some sort of point please reevaluate. You can't trust yourself
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>>317636168
like how autismal are you, jesus.
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>feel like playing the game again
>buy token with gold
>immediately remember why i unsubbed

eight more fucking months of 6.2
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>>317634729
Say what you want about HotS as a game - at least they didn't let that crap fly.
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>>317635917
No one wanted Vol'jin as warchief, he's less popular than Garrosh, he's a whiny little fag and a traitor to the horde, and is the number two reason Garrosh went off the deep end after Thrall.

Fuck that bitch.
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>>317635176
Honestly with how Mary Sue Green Jesus is right now, I'd totally believe that.
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>there are people on /v/ who don't main a monk, literally the funnest class in the whole game
Explain yourselves
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>>317636545
that is such a problematic design
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>>317636602
would it have been better if grom slapped thrall's shit?
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>>317635351
Except that I have not seen many interesting characters that can replace them. A friend of mine always keeps me involuntarily updated on all the lore but it all sounds dumb as shit after burning crusade.
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>>317636568

People were gunning for Lorthemar if I'm not mistaken, would've been a better achoice IMO.
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>>317636345
>onehit kill
>most nerfed class in the game

Eh, no.
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>>317636627
I would've done that if it was a Hero Class.
Starting from lvl 1 is such a bore.
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>>317634717
>It's over Gul'dan. Shinnok is dead.
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>>317636627
>monks in mists of panderia
>legitly the 1v1 master
>oh shit im rolling around at the speed of sound
>oh no im about to die
>reset duel with rolls and kick and chi sphere it up
>jump into a 5v1 pop karma kill one person with touch of death and roll away

and now monks are kek'd harder then hero class
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>>317636627
>there are people on /v/ playing WoW RIGHT NOW.
Explain yourself.
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For what fucking purpose? Voljin was a solid choice since he's always been loyal to the Horde. Sylvanas used to be kinda sympathetic since Arthas shat on her and ruined everything and everyone she loved, but once he died and she decided to pick up valkyrs and play God like Arthas, she's been nothing but a fucking liability.
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>>317636212
metzen... you failed to teach your daughter to become a proper slut, shame on you
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>>317636687

At least a few slaps would've been great, Thrall will still pull out a bitch move eventually but at least Garrosh didn't go out as a bitch.
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>>317636212
Not surprising, he let his daughter become corrupted.
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>>317634729
>it isn't even the same color as the rest of her gear
>i-it's not pandering, they thought about this look real hard !!!
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>>317636881
No, fuck Voljin, Loyalty is one of the worst reasons to make someone warchief. His career as an officer of the horde is marred by his complete incompetence in retaking his homeland, as well as never doing anything relevant for the horde.
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>>317635952
>doomhammer
>they give it a fel corrupted option
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>>317630717
Is this true? If so I'll resub right now. I FUCKING love me some Sylvanas.
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>>317634746
>it's a fucking ghost town with nothing but a few NPCs running around
already done it's called the garrison
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>>317636212
Metzen's daughter corrupted him?
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>>317634907

>baiting this hard
>no evidence of a ban

you're an utter faggot and remind me why /v/ is such a shithole
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why do people sub when you can play ptr for freee?
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>>317632796

I thought most people wanted Lor'themar, because of all the ass he kicked in MoP?
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http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=102790/calia-menethil

Do you believe?!
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>>317635176

You aren't wrong

http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=22522/super-thrall
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>>317633518

Except blizzards shit writers kept attributing Forsaken as the hordes magic expertise all throughout the CATA.
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>Koltira Deathweaver/Thassarian Slotted

Oh goody. Now we can see Koltira's butt-buddy save him from Sylvanas' rape dungeon

>Magni/Eitrigg Meetup Seen

Magni's now moving
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>>317637798
It was a close second, but realistically nobody thought of lorthemar since he jumped out of inactivity so late
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So how they explain away all the evil shit Sylvanas did?
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why would a undead zombie be a warchief of the horde. s m h f a m
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>>317631045
This. Undead constantly do heinous shit and they decide to make her the leader? Literally the next Garrosh after she goes full evil.
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>>317637848
I used to want Calia in Wow, or at least some information on her, but can you imagine it being done well now? What's the point?
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Doe this mean Genn becomes the leader of Stormwind?
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I'm half expecting artifacts to end up an Ashran tier disaster. Most look pretty cool but...
>only weapons for the expansion
>only a handful aren't pulled completely from their ass, probably 2 for those unfamiliar with lore
>like staves? fuck you here sword
>like two hand? fuck you, you dual wield now
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>>317636104

Why would they do this, isn't demo all about demons again?
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>>317635952
>thinking anything is worse than the shadow priest dagger
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>>317638147
it's entirely possible she took command as chaos sweeps the other leaders' cities
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>Bolvar is going to make an appearance.

So they are going to awaken the Lich King to battle the Legion.
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>>317638147

I'm thinking this is temporary since Vol'jin decided to fuck off when shit started going down. She was most likely in the front line due to MUH VALKYR so she got the spot.
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>>317638248
That dagger is fucking awesome
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>>317638336

No, just to get the shards.
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>>317630717
If Varian is dead why is the fury warrior artifact not Shallamayne?... and why does it look like a total piece of fucking hideous shit?
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>>317636881
Voljin is boring as fuck and having aTroll lead the Horde felt wrong.
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>>317638507
Sauce on that image?
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>>317635952
I really don't like Fury swords. They're just boring.
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>>317638147
>Undead constantly do heinous
>Wrathgate (wasn't even Forsakens fault)
>Single handedly took down ALL of Hillsbrad
>Single handedly took down ALL of Arathi Highlands
>Single handedly took down the long standing walls of Gilneas

please
Forsaken have done more for the Horde than Garrosh ever dreamed of. Garrosh literally had to use a magic nuke because his forces are garbage without the help of every other Horde faction.
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>>317638116

They already did expansions ago. All the stuff with the Forsaken converting Dalaran members isn't canon, the QDev team didn't know Dalaran was neutral at the time and thought they were alliance aligned.

The experimentation camps were illegal and not approved by Sylvanus.
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>garrosh dead
>varian dead
Fucking hell who's next? Why not kill sylvanas off for good, vol'jin has just became warchief and he's already gone
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>>317638139
Honest truth is they are eliminating factions in a subtle confession that they have no idea how to balance them.

>new scenarios where horde and alliance play together!
>mercenary mode, where you play pvp content as a member of the opposing faction!
>class halls, where you hang out with all members of your class and not just your faction!

They are merely dissolving the horde vs alliance angle of the game. It honestly sounds like shit to me, but Blizzdrones seem hyped for anything slightly different. Guess thats what happens when you play one mediocre mmo for 13 years, lel.

Lore wise, I expect the game will be written to reflect this as well. They'll write more blending between all races, and less faction specific stuff.
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>>317638527
That sounds pretty fucking stupid.
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>>317638687
>Single handedly took down the long standing walls of Gilneas

The Cataclysm did most of that.
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>>317638738
>The experimentation camps were illegal and not approved by Sylvanus.

the shit that happened with that death knight in andorhal in cata really begs to differ
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>sylvanas still hasnt had her "GONE CORRUPT AND KILLED OFF" arc despite blizzards main export is literally corruption

>Lillian voss got her story written into the ground and became a random side NPC for garrisons because they just decided to stop writing her story arc for no reason

>Not only will lillian voss not become the undead racial leader, sylvanas is going to be the fucking warchief

make it end.
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>Making Sylvanas the new warchief
>Not Baine
>Not Mida Silvertongue
>Not literally anyone else
>Not blood elf leader guy.
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>>317630717
> Horde following Undead bitch
This din't have to happen, Garrosh the true leader of the horde tried to warn us
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>>317638654
Agreed. They look so bad I'm considering playing gladiator's stance when legion comes out.
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>>317638750
>Why not kill sylvanas off for good, vol'jin has just became warchief and he's already gone

Voljin is a shitlord, and Sylvanas is needed to purge the patriarchy from the Horde.
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>>317638850
But it was still Forsaken at the front lines taking on those fucking furfags.
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>>317638893
I thought that was being removed.
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>>317638893
weak trolling
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In some crazy twist, Thrall becomes king of the Alliance.
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>>317638869
>Mida Silvertongue
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>>317638248
I play an enhance shammy and I DO NOT FUCKING WANT DOOMHAMMER. Fuck thrall, fuck 1h mace dual wielding. Thrall only uses one but I use two? Shit.
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>>317639025
Thrall and Varian walk into the sunset holding hands
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>>317639069
I'm sorry about your autism anon.
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>>317638651
Its Panty & Stocking
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So what role does Greymane play? They were hyping him up before hand and he isn't even mentioned once in the spoilers.
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Is magni still a salt block
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>>317639202
As usual, a useless piece of shit who does nothing but hide.
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>>317638935
Vol'jin has a really good character model. Its actually one of the most well designed leaders in the entire game.

Sylvannas' new model is fucking retarded
>dat neck guard
just...why

Unfortunately Blizzard has nobody that likes trolls, so they don't do anything with them. Metzen fanboys orcs, some other guy fanboys Undead and the playerbase fanboys Blood Elves. Thats why Orcs, BEs and Undead get all the love while Tauren, Trolls, and Goblins are neglected hardcore.
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>>317639341
no, Magni makes his glorious return to fill the vacuum of power left by Varian

>>317639202
it looks like he gets killed by Nathanos Blightcaller and the player aboard an airship. you also kill a bunch of his loyal worgen beforehand.
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>>317638782

Players asked for "War in warcraft" and blizzard jumped at it with Cata, then they realized they couldn't do shit without both sides getting anal raged at lore victories and so they removed it.

The war between the Horde and Alliance has no true lore standing, the introverted war shit in Cata and MOP was forced to appease the players who thought it had any lore relevancy.

In the truest sense, the horde and alliance wouldn't exist if blizzard followed their own lore from Warcraft III.

This is actually better, because now the focus is on Azeroth's enemies like it was with the first three expansions, rather than the stupid "war" between the horde and alliance.

Not saying I'm into the "muh peace" angle, but making pvp canon caused a lot of stupid shit.


>>317638864

>Lillian Voss

You mean the MTG meme character that players are too stupid to realize is a reference and nothing more?

>>317638859
Remind me again what happened there?
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>>317639341

Nope, he's free and going to help Ret. Paladins with Ashbringer.
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>>317639352
But I thought that was what Vol'jin was doing? is everyone they don't feel like writing just hiding?
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>>317639456
>Blizzard has nobody that likes trolls
>literally every expansion has had a troll raid
>trolls can be almost every single class, a feat only shared with dwarves

>>317639475
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Koltira_Deathweaver#Cataclysm
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>>317635176
not half Titan half Oldgod half element Lordking
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>>317638864
i never understood why people liked lilian voss
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>>317639739

>Koltira Deathweaver
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>>317639182
>this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWNNjIIq4TA
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>>317639475
>This is actually better
The new pvp sounds even worse than Draenor, which I didn't think would be possible. Holinka is a horrible dev who is crashing that plane with no survivors.

Raiders are happy because they are finally getting their way and getting a 95% pve oriented game. But pve is fucking dull as shit after you've done every boss 3 times or more.

Anyway idc, I canceled my sub for good in Draenor. I regretted Cataclysm, Pandaria, and Draenor. They were all terrible purchases. The game peaked in WOTLK and those days are never coming back.

Enjoy getting another shitty WoW expansion at full price.
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>>317630717

>a character that openly gets away with so much shady shit that everyone else ignores it's almost like a parody of itself
>becomes the fucking warchief

What the fuck? How are all the races okay with this?
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>>317634729

They took the entire point of the character design and ruined it.

All because one SJW got asked by his daughter why Sylvanas dressed like that.
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>>317639465
>Glenn Greymane gets killed by Nathanos Blightcaller
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>>317639465
But I thought alliance got a quest line from him with a ship and Horde got a quest line from Sylvanas.

That wrong?
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>>317639864

She had Spriest/Rogue powers and people took that as something meaningful in the lore rather than the it simply begin a reference to Liliana Vess.

She's only popular because players who want Sylvanas gone want her to be the new leader.
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>>317639739
>killing trolls means they do a good job developing the Darkspear lore
nope, they do nothing with the Darkspear.

You kill trolls all the time because Blizzard is unimaginative and struggles to come up with new raid ideas.
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>>317640018
Because I say so
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>>317636345
>play rouge
>leveling is really painful, even with good gear you do worse dps then other classes with bad gear
>get fan of knifes
>now can atleast burst AOE
still a shit class at end raid with good gear and no fun to play
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>>317639853
But Old Gods ARE Elemental Lordkings you silly goose
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>>317640038
nathanos is a legit mary sue

but why is he so cool and this ok ?
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>>317630717
They need a quest to join the Goblins in nuking the world.
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>>317639969

My post wasn't really about the state of PVP, rather than blizzard no longer using the alliance vs. horde element as a story driver.
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>>317640240
>fok is every spec but combat the one were it makes more sense with
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>>317640142
Maybe if the Darkspear weren't literally the worst troll tribe out there. Why can't they allow Forest trolls, Revantusks have been a part of the horde for a while.
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>>317640325
You said its actually better, which means the whole game is now better.

You cant say "well...I wasnt talking about that!" when someone points out a huge part of the game is on its deathbed due to these same changes you are praising.

Dont be a willfully ignorant blizzdrone, its annoying.
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>>317632834
>Turalyon

I guess it was Inevitable at this point. If only you had show up in TBC instead.
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>>317640478
Its their game, they could choose to make them awesome, they just chose not to.

Hence the original point, they DONT DO ANYTHING to develop races that they dont care about. Tauren, Trolls and Goblins are stagnant as fuck.
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>>317640018
corruption
dont question it, it just work
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>>317640548

>Which means the whole game is better

Oh, no no I meant the direction is better. They can fuck up less focusing the lore on global threats than fuck around with either side winning or losing against the horde.

It's pain enough that both sides argue about a fairness between both factions (such as both sides requiring the loss of a leader should one go in the lore).

Also, I'm not getting legion and haven't played WoW since Dragon Soul came out.
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>Vol'jin missing
>turns out he was gathering the last of the trolls to fight the legion
>next expansion subraces added
>Forest Troll monk here i come
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>>317632727
so glad I quit in mop. Is grom going to be the final boss three expansions in a row?
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>Anduin Lothar
Oh God please no. LEAVE HIM ALONE.
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>>317640884
nigga WoD is the ONLY expansion they have not worked on troll lore.
if anything Troll lore is one of their favorite.

Deathknight Garry when?
DK Garry Vs Bolvar.
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>>317640930
>implying all the other troll tribes dont hate the Horde
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Varian is dead, Varian is fucking dead.

I can't deal with this.

When I was reading Velen's vision I saw him as the knight in shining armor.

He was the one supposed to lead the armies of Azeroth against the shadow.

What happened?
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>>317641091
Who said Anduin Lothar?
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>>317641212
>Raventusk is apart of the horde
also
Times change.
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THe only character i still care about are Vol'jin, Chen, the Dwaves brothers and Baine. Fuck the rest.
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>>317641329
http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=96201/anduin-lothar
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>>317641237
you are a fool.
it was his son the whole time. anyone who was not a simpleton knew this.
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>>317641409
Memory probably? Llane is also making an appearance.
Remember they were involved with Medivh and you do go back to Kara.
>mfw they make them look like the guys playing them in the movies
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>>317641385
Revantusk are a small example who are known for not having many fighters or wanting to get in fights. They only made a pact of friendship, not actually a part of the Horde.

Lets not forget you've outright attacked the Amani and all their friends, the Gurubashi and all those down in STV. And they all don't like Vol'jin
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>>317641190
wow needs more troll lore
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>>317638147
That's what I want. More evil forsaken pls
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>>317641630
The current blizzard rule is that anything that is a hero and has a in-game model is going to be corrupted
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>>317630717
Why cant this Lor'Thermar been the Warchief? they even said it would be someone totally unexpected guys!! Really! and instead got this jerk off troll that didn't do shit anyway
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>>317638864
Lillian Voss is coming back as an important NPC/follower to the Rogue hub.
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The new Lich King is now called Lavaman.
>Icecrown Citadel is gonna be turned into Volcano Fortress
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>>317642094
I see it now.

>Varian dies
>Vol'Jin goes MIA
>Sylvanas gets the spiky crown
>Anduin is the new king
>He has the diplomacy but lacks the knowledge in battle
>Lor'Themar is mad he didn't get the spiky crown
>he always wanted to join the alliance anyway
>starts advicing anduin

Also now that Anduin is the king of Stormwind does that also makes him High King of the Alliance or do they have to pick a new one like they did with Varian?
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>>317630717
>You lived long enough to see Vol'jin get corrupted and watch Varian die in an in-game cutscene after he chilled out and became the voice of reason for the Alliance
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>>317642407
old model was called lavaman in lk, so we wouldn't know it was bolvar
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>>317638147
Baine probably didn't have the army backup that could justify being warchief. Not to mention he'd most likely refuse the title sooner than shake up the Tauren foundations again.

Gallywix would rather want to make a profit than try to lead the Horde through the Burning Legion.

The only other person viable for the title would be Lorthemar, and I guarantee you that there's probably going to be conflict between the two after all the stuff with the Northrend invasion and his current mentality to rise the blood elves up to new heights.

Sylvanas has had multiple victories under her belt and has successfully assisted the Horde in multiple ways, not even just in raising new Forsaken. That, and the fact that it's obviously a temporary thing until Vol'jin pops back up, probably in the second patch if they actually decide to delve into Zandalar, which I'm sure is part of the reason why he's missing. She's the best candidate.
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>>317640037
how is the entire point of sylvanas' design her midriff. u high m8
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>Anduin becomes King
>new reform to the government
>Bring in 800,00 troll and orc refugees into Stormwind for cultural diversity
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>>317642525
And again we have been tricked cause this is Laveman number fucking 2!
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>>317642407
>mfw the devs named him lavaman because they didn't know who he was
>mfw the people making this game don't know shit about

That's why warriors didn't get the axe of cenarius, i bet they didn't even knew it existed.

also

>warrior class hall
>not fray island
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>varian gets raised as an undead
>brings the forsaken into the alliance
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>>317642621
I can totally see that happening under "Orgrimmar is destroyed lets bring them here"
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>>317642621
Boy what could go wrong I wonder
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"The beast-like creature carries himself with an elven grace, but hoofed goat’s legs and a long, serpentine tail hunch him forward. Red eyes peer out from the face of a handsome night elf noble, as his long, clawed fingers gather the ragged remains of a sorcerer’s silk robes around his shoulders. Though he is a monstrous creature, he is also strangely alluring, moving with a grace that seems almost supernatural"

Damn they really nailed Xavius appearance!
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>>317642791
I think a race swap would be so gigantic that it should happen to see what happens.
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>>317641630
It should be noted that literal Valhalla is being added.
It should also be noted, it is the warrior class hall, and the halls are suppose to have big names walking around
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Datamining faggots ruin everything.
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>>317642741
http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=96197/broxigar
Broxigar shows up finally at least. Too bad warriors got shafted with weapons. Prot warrior looks awful.
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>>317642993
>ruin everything
elaborate
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>>317642993
if they didn't want it datamined they would make an effort to encrypt it
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>>317642741
A tiny-ass island would not make a good class hall. They want them to be grand.

It's like comparing Kami House to Kami's Lookout.
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>>317643042
Broxigar is literally dead as dead can possibly be. Sargeas himself killed him, when that happens you don't just die you experience HyperDeath(tm)
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Guys ;_; help I'm thinking about buying Legion, renewing my game for a month and also buying a WoW token to sell, what is wrong with me?
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>>317642903

>Red eyes
>Eyes

Blizzard doesn't even remember he had gems for eyes, black ones.
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>>317636683
gay confirmed
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>>317633230
This better be worth it.
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>>317642903
>nailed
>see the pic
Dammit Carlos
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>>317643187
But muh alternate timelines and shit
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>>317643187
I thought Illidan was dead too, but Blizzard has no problem resurrecting characters while still pretending to kill others for dramatic effect.
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>>317634729
>censored belly button
TRIGGGERED
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>>317636170
He's there too f a m.
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>>317643535
Oh please, if you didn't see where they were taking the whole "Demons can come back via the Twisting Nether" angle then you are just stupid.

Not too mention Metzen himself said a few times that he wants Illidan to come back, he never liked how TBC ended his story.
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>>317642954
For example Odi..Ahem.. ODYN.
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>>317643771
>My beard is made of fire, your argument is invalid
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>>317640091
well she was shown to be pretty powerful, even lived after the scholomance shit.
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>>317638147
Good thing we're gonna kill her. Her boss fight is going to be pretty awesome
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>>317642954
It should be noted literal Valhalla is literally for Vrykuls only.
It should be noted you're a retard.
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>>317643912

Her Sholomance involvement was BECAUSE of her popularity, not a reason for it.
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>>317642407
>Lava man saves the day
>scourge is now the good guys
>Sylvanus is btfo and bolvar is now the leader of the horde
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>>317636942
>Challenge Garrosh to Mak'gora, an ancient form of orcish duelling in which NO MAGIC can be employed
>Getting schooled, oh shit!
>Use magic like it ain't shit
>Win
>Play it off like a badass
And this is why I hate Metzen and Thrall.
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>>317643187
he can Hyperdeath him all he wants, that old Orc got all the glory he could ever imagine in that minor-wounding of Mega-Greek/Norse Satan.
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>>317639465
Nah Genn kills Nathanos and then Sylvanas beats Genn but doesnt kill him
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What expansion can they possibly conjure up after this one?
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Whatever happened to Lilian Voss?
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>>317644249
rogue order hall captain for horde

Vancleefs daughter is Alliance rogue captain
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>>317644226
that would be fucking enraging
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>>317644227
World of Warcraft: Shoguns of Pandaria
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>>317643738

Oh, I know. Should be interesting to see how they've interacted over the years since LK.
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>>317635921
I hope that you are right, but knowing blizzard
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>>317644330
Didn't Vancleef's daughter die?

or are we talking about another daughter
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>>317644330
what did she have a change of heart after commiting massive treason and attempting to steamroll Stormwind in a giant Tank Boat?
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>>317644226
Also it should be noted that Genn does beat the crap out of Slyvanas, to the point where she uses one of her Valkyrie lives to win
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>>317644416

It's the same, and we had no evidence of her death, just that it looked like shit probably died. Rogues and all, you know?
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>>317644421
>daughter attempts the exact plan her father did, but with Hobo workers.

>ends exactly the same way.

I mean come on, least you could do is seal off the SAME EXACT TUNNELS that lead adventuring murder-hobos to your secret underground lair.
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>>317644421
Rogue hall in Legion are anti-establishment shadow guilt that hide in the sewers.
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>>317644416
Even though Heroic Deadmines ended with Vanessa setting herself on fire and then blowing up..... nah she's fine.

Cheat Death is a helluva spell I guess.
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>>317643915
>for Vrykuls only.
and every PC warrior
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>>317631045
Id rather her than shitjin. Why the fuck did they kill Cairne. Bro should be leading in Thralls stead.
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>>317644482
Based
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>http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=96183/danath-trollbane

Please tell me he's going to do something.
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