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DECEMBER
>Pichu
Nah
brought with him = ???
>>317630342
hype
>>317629259
wow Roy's pants look fucking stupid
>>317630342
honestly I always forget he's in the game
Also you're a fucking retard because it's Lucas who brought Ryu and Roy with him.
>>317630342
An end to Mewtwofag Autism
>>317629259
This my friends is why Smash is the most autistic fan base ever
I wouldnt really object to Pichu since he'd likely get the Roy treatment and not feel like complete ass any more, but I'd still rather have another new character
>There are people out there that actually want Pichu back.
>>317630342
He stands alone because the 3DS+Wii U deal.
It'll be legitimately sad if half of the DLC characters are just veterans. Then again, they do have to save characters for Smash 5.
So I'm unfamiliar with the tier scene but how come every faggot online uses Roy or a projectile spammer? Being DDD is suffering.
It will be Wolf and Dixie.
>>317629259
Nope. Roster filler from Melee aka Game of Clones, only character unanimously hated by the Smash fanbase. Never happening.
>>317630342
Easy 3DS money
Pichu can fuck off. I'd rather have another Brawl veteran. If Cloud can get in, Snake should return. Ice Climbers would be fine too if they can get them to work on the 3DS, even Ivysaur or Bulbasaur would be better than fucking Pichu.
>>317629259
ICE CLIMBERS :^)
>Smash
Literally don't care. Now stop autismposting.
Pichu would be an underwhelming as fuck way to end Smash 4's DLC period.
Either we get Snake or get another newcomer for the last spot (assuming if Wolf returns as well).
>>317630836
>bulbasaur
I meant Squirtle
>Yfw this nigga is the namco rep.
>>317630589
>blue arms
It will be Wolf and the ballot winner
>>317631008
Pac man
>>317629259
>not Shantae
>>317630836
No more gen wun wank please.
It's going to be the Monster Hunter. Only that has enough clout to completely blow the lid off the japanese fanbase, seeing how MH refuses a rep even in Capcom's VS games.
>>317630928
Where was it confirmed this is the end?
>>317631008
Yoshimitsu would be better.
Young Link, who will be the Roy to Link's Marth. Toon Link need not apply.
no. its new characters not a bring back of old ones. shovel knight being expected
>>317631096
Ryu and megaman
>>317629259
>Pichu
It better be Raichu if anything, or something from gen 3.
>>317629259
Speaking of Pichu, would anyone play Chibi-Robo in Smash if they implemented his battery system similar to Pichu's self-damage?
He'd be balanced around this drawback, but using moves drains his battery. He needs to use his plug-in special before it runs out, rendering him immobile for a short time.
>>317631008
Fuck yeah! Smash doesn't have enough sword users.
>>317630459
under8ed poost
>>317631372
>>317631372
Then would Kilik be better for you?
>>317631326
If he had a gimmick like that then maybe. But he seems pretty uninteresting as a character.
>>317631464
Voldo
>>317631464
You actually think Namco wants anyone from Flopcalibur to represent them? If they get a second rep it will either be from Tales, Tekken, or Idolmaster.
>>317631464
I love Kilik but I don't see another Namco or Sega rep happening in all honesty.
>>317630459
Not even half as much hype as Cloud.
>>317631464
It will be Klonoa if anyone. Face it though, Sora as another SE rep is more likely.
pretty sure roy = mewtwo
>>317629259
Reminder that the mexican woman that works for Nintendo said that Cloud will come in 2016
>>317631326
I think SSF2 translated him in well without use of a gimmick. But that definitely would be an interesting mechanic.
Guess we'll find out what this Private Video is in December, huh?
>>317631678
Nah nigga
>>317631715
I would actually like Bryan Fury desu senpai.
>>317631749
We can all hope for the best
>Pichu
>Not Young Link
>>317631251
Sakurai and his team have to move on soon and it's already been stated that this is the last major broadcast this game is going to get.
I'm kinda sad it's nearing the end (presumably) but seven total DLC characters in one year is impressive as it is. I remember thinking we'd get only like three initially when Mewtwo was announced.
>>317631240
The problem here is this:
>Only that has enough clout to completely blow the lid off the japanese fanbase
A MH rep would only really appeal to japs. Every third party in Smash has had worldwide appeal and fame. Something like MH is only really famous in Japan. Same thing with Dragon Quest.
I'll break my 3DS in half if Pichu comes back.
>>317631372
i find the "too many swordmen" complain a bit overblown
>>317632140
>this is the last major broadcast this game is going to get.
I want to assume "major broadcast" doesn't cover character trailers, but it'll definitely be the last Smash Direct.
>Nobody wanting Raichu over the shit lightweight self-hurting Pichu
>>317629259
FTFY
>>317631256
This
>b is his slow super-stab, essentially shield breaker
>Fb Stone Fist
>Ub Sword Copter
>Db Sword Pogo
>>317632382
There are more ways to fight unarmed then there are to fight with a sword. At least for video games, because no one knows how to do alternate swordplay.
>>317631856
Its really sad thats true
>>317632382
And half of the sword users are clones.
>YFW next Smash Direct announces Pichu/Ivysaur/Squirtle combo pack, Saffron City, Pokémon Stadium, Poké Floats, Spear Pillar, Wii U versions of Unova Pokémon League and Prism Tower, and a bunch of returning Poké Ball Pokémon
>Young Link announced for Smash when Zelda U gets its full title
>Wolf announced for Smash when he's revealed in Star Fox Zero
>Snake announced for Smash as one of the last special DLC characters along with Ryu and Cloud
>>317632523
>being too stupid to read the thread >>317631306
>wanting more gen wun
>wanting more Pikashit family
>>317629259
>MUH PATTERNS!I believe Wolf will be added, he's shit though.
>>317631008
>implying
Also I think Tekken is the only other Namco series that's famous enough to warrant an inclusion (it's actually the highest selling fighting game franchise IIRC). Only problem is, I don't think Tekken characters would be that interesting, especially since we already have Ryu.
>>317632786
>11 sword users
>only Toon Link, Lucina, and Roy are clones
>half
Date when?
Pichu should have never been in the game to begin with
They needed a gen 2 rep so they quickly shat out Pichu, they shouldn't have bothered
>>317632382
Overblown but I think it's because there's no weapon variety.
>>317629259
>mfw people legitimately want Pichu back, knowing it's just a worse Pikachu
>mfw people legitimately want Young Link back, knowing Toon Link is supposed to be the replacement.
At least Wolf is bordering on being his own character, barring his FS.
>>317630718
Roy is new and has fire, that's my guess.
Iunno why people projectile spam, I've never seen the fun in that type of thing.
>>317629259
I only got MewTwo and bought Ryu, now I can't get any more because it'll fuck up my perfectly aligned character grid.
>>317633020
Yeah, they sure care about representing the different gens.
Too many clones~
>>317629259
HYPE TRAIN
>>317633161
I want Young Link to use masks.
>>317633383
If they add Young Link, it will be the melee version. They wouldn't make a whole new character.
>>317632563
please soccer guy
>>317633271
>We will never get Blaziken, Sceptile, or Swampert to Represent Gen 3.
>still trying to find patterns in anything
>pichu of all things
>>317631240
the series producer said that you will never see a hunter in a crossover game because he doesn't want fans to think one weapon or armor set is "canon".
gayle characters are the worst, I can't believe they brought back 2 of them
mewtwo is garbage in both design/gameplay and roy is A THIRD FUCKING MARTH AND FIFTH FE SWORD WIELDER
>Ganon will never be able to use his sword even a little bit because no one likes customs
>people legit want pichu back
>another pokemon rep
>and legit worse clone than the original
>people want young link back
>even more of a clone to link than toonlink
>sakurai manages to bring back the iceclimbers
>every melee IC player will drop them immediately because they cant chaingrab anymore
>>317633626
sad 2bh
>>317633383
And I want Toon Link to use the actual unique WW items.
And Ganondorf to actually be Ganondorf.
But we aren't allowed to have nice things.
>>317633763
>if Ganon were to use his sword, everyone would complain he turned into "YET ANOTHER" Anime Swordsman
>>317633494
Yeah, probably.
He's still my favorite version of Link, so I wouldn't care either way, but it's nice to dream.
>>317633626
sceptile should have been in over fagtwo, it's such bullshit
I also never knew why blaziken was the most popular of the three, it has the shittiest design
>>317633271
It's hard for them to add one from each gen, they don't like cutting vet's, Pikachu & Jigs have immunity, Chairzard because Pkmn trainer & because it's fucking Chairzard, Lucario cause they reused a lot of his animations/sounds, easy to add, Mewtwo cause everyone bitched about him being cut in Brawl
That's 6 fucking Pokemon already, 9 if they add back cut vet's due to demand (Pichu, Ivy, Squirtle)
Get's ridiculous after a point, if they have a rep for each gen, they got to add 12 all up
>>317633383
Sakurai doesn't do overhauls like that. He doesn't want to upset fans of characters by changing them too much.
Besides if you're putting in that much effort you might as well just make a new character.
>>317633996
>ganon could use his sword and magic
>be almost like robin who is basically a spellcaster with a sword
>still get labeled as another anime sword fighter
>>317634095
Lucario's basically guaranteed for every other Smash seeing as how he's the Second Mascot now.
>>317633996
>ganon would basically be a slightly heavier ike with maybe a projectile
>>317634035
I always thought Grovyle looked cooler than Sceptile, but Swampert is my favourite pokemon of all time so I never pick anything but Mudkip as a stater
>>317634095
>tfw they fixed everybody's ledge-grab specials, except for Ivysaur who was promptly dropped ;_;
![[DAMNING INTENSIFIES].gif](https://i.imgur.com/1vW3W76.gif "[DAMNING INTENSIFIES].gif")
>>317634230
>Cloud's already an Ike Clone to begin with
>>317633748
That's pretty retarded considering they do all kinds of crossover campaigns with other games having MH armor/weapon skins.
There will be three more characters.
>>317634035
>Hating on Mewtwo
He's fine because, like it or not, he's a fan Favorite. The real issue is the over-representation of Gen 1 Pokemon.
Pikachu and Jigglypuff are a mainstay, but we didn't need Charizard. I would've axed him for a Gen 3 rep.
>>317633626
>You will never have blaziken as the cap. falcon clone
>Ganon could have been be his own shit
>>317634230
>>317634196
I'd rather have Ganon. Ganondorf being a clone feels wrong but he's never changing and even if he did I don't think he's that interesting.
>>317633996
>want Ganon to get a more representative moveset
>like playing him as is and don't want to lose that
>>317631464
would rather see talim but that ain't happening
>>317634376
charizard is fine because he's a fire starter, we're just missing grass
mewtwo is just shit
jigglypuff should have been removed after 64 but sakurai pussied out
I just want toon zelda characters replace TP characters.
>>317634114
>Changing a character is worse for the fans of the character than having that character appear at all
>>317633963
have you seen project ganondorf?
especially the magic one is basically everything I wanted from ganon in smash 4. goddamn
>>317634528
Name?
we got zero zelda characters, who could they add?
no garbage like young link or toon ____, serious answers only. I'd say Impa but we already got sheik. Maybe someone new from Zelda U?
>>317631008
nah
>wanting SS back instead of pic related with CQC throws and bionic arm attacks
shaking my head
>>317631715
nigga Calibur does better then tales
especially with that zestria flop
>>317634781
That one guy
what's his name?
Goose? Brute? Broose?
>>317634781
>Maybe someone new from Zelda U?
Won't ever happen considering Midna and Ghirahim weren't any more than assist trophies.
>>317634384
>Blaziken
>not Black Shadow
>>317634781
Problem with Zelda is that a lot of the characters are one-offs.
Impa would make a good Sheik alt. Ganon would make up for the shit they did to Ganondorf. Those are the only ones that have really done enough to deserve it and also aren't Assist Trophies.
>>317634781
>Young Link
>Not a serious answer
>>317634857
SS is the best snake, venom is OK but too bland
>>317634781
Impa is so fun to play as in HW, even though her sword sucks for non-Dodongo bosses, I would be pretty damn glad
>>317634574
Sceptile will be cool, but it's gonna be copy/pasted Ivysaur
>>317634906
That's why the series is in limbo after V failed so hard it forced the series to go f2p. Which also failed.
>>317635050
that's right shotafag, now get out of this thread
>>317635080
their models and archtypes are not even close
>>317634528
>>317634473
>>317634740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGesqhE1sg0
yes
yes
ALL THREE
I AM WET
>>317635129
V failed because namco cut the funding
I hate how namco focuses on Tekken over SC when Tekken is boring as shit
>>317634781
Vaati, Zant, Hyrule Warriors Impa,Lana
>>317635129
>>317635326
wrong
lost swords was ment to be a companion game with V as its original Single player mode
but SCV was rushed so they made that into F2P game
and no with the tiny amount of budget and dev time they did, it sold really well along with is cheap as fuck DLC
WELL above most tales games
>>317634781
Zelda and Donkey Kong get shit on so hard in Smash. Half of Zelda's reps are clones and DK only has fucking two.
>>317635198
You can't make me.
>>317629259
>access to rage faster than any character
>multihit electric moves
>faster than pikachu
>humiliation material for FG shitters
I see no problem with pichu
>>317635328
>vaati
irrelevant, from 2 mediocre games
>zant
if ghirahim didn't get in, he won't either
>HW impa
sheik
>lana
haha good one
>>317635436
except that no one but retards like you would pay for him and it's a terrible business decision
Snake when?
>>317634950
Could be too, my biggest concern is the elephant in the room that is Ganon`s moveset
>>317635558
people said shit like this when we talked about roy, and look at him now
>>317635456
HW Impa and Sheik wouldn't even play the same, so I don't see the problem but I'm not really clamoring for Impa anyway.I wouldn't mind Lana either.
>>317634312
Stop this meme.
Cloud only has a few moves similar to Ike, and they aren't even the same animation.
It's like saying that Marth, Roy, Ike, Lucina, Shulk, Palutena, Lucario, Greninja, and Peach are all clones of each other because they all have a counter.
>>317635979
This gif is older than 50% of /v/
>>317634913
Moose
>>317636094
I'm creeped.
>>317629259
I hope wolf
Fuck Fox fags not even a furry just that Wolf actually felt unique in his playstyle.
>We need a fully-evolved Grass starter to complete the pattern!
No we fucking don't, this is the most retarded shit. Pokémon type match-ups mean fuck all in Smash.
Pikachu - Pokémon mascot
Mewtwo - Popular Gen I Pokémon added to Melee for non-Pikachu Gen I representation, dropped in Brawl, fanservice as Smash 4 DLC
Charizard - Popular Gen I Pokémon added to Brawl for non-Pikachu Gen I representation
Lucario - Popular Gen IV Pokémon added to Brawl when Gen IV was relevant
Greninja - Popular Gen VI Pokémon added to Smash 4 when Gen VI was relevant
Pichu - shitty clone of Pikachu that was added to Melee for quick Gen II representation, dropped in Brawl
Ivysaur - goes with Charizard and Pokémon Trainer, dropped in Smash 4
Squirtle - goes with Charizard and Pokémon Trainer, dropped in Smash 4
In terms of concurrency,
Smash 64 - Gen I
Melee - Gen II
Brawl - Gen IV
Smash 4 - Gen VI
If Smash 4 had been released in 2012, there would be a Gen V Pokémon instead. But don't expect to see new Gen II, III, IV, or V characters added now.
Frankly, Jigglypuff shouldn't be in Smash. It was only ever relevant in the Pokémon anime, and even then only early on. It hasn't been seen in well over a decade.
>>317635747
roy is marketable as he is a hero figure
pichu is pichu
>>317635617
As soon as Konami starts making stupid decisions and goes back to caring about video games.
>>317636238
>Jigglypuff shouldn't be in Smash
Original 12 and fairy type.
Pichu would be cool if all his aerials autocancelled on landing.
>>317636642
>original 12
doesn't mean shit, jigglypuff is not only shitty because she's irrelvant (and was only ever relevant because of the anime, not the games) but because she is a mess of a character that is either overpowered if she can combo into rest, or absolute shit if she can'
>fairy type
if sceptile doesn't get in because there is no type quota, jigglypuff sure as shit doesn't because of fairy type
She should have been gone in melee
>>317636642
>Original 12
I bet you try to see patterns as well
All you LOLORIGNAL12 faggots are all fucking retarded
Only reason that shit jigglypuff is still in is because all the data is there already
That shit has been irrelevant for nearly a decade.
and the only replies this will get are the same old LOL YOU ONLY HATE PUFF CUZ THEY KICK YOUR ASS
No fuck you and fuck your shitty fucking gen 1 pokemon
>>317636843
Honestly, if they want a Pokemon relevant to the anime I'm surprised Meowth never got in.
I hope we get more newcomers
as much as I want the other pokemon (sans Pichu, fuck him) and Snake (which isn't happening) I'd much rather have completely new characters
>>317636843
>either overpowered if she can combo into rest, or absolute shit if she cant
She can combo into rest in Project M, right? I was under the impression she isn't considered to be that great in that mod.
>>317637210
I think he was considered
>>317637210
Apparently puff was someone`s favorite and got in cause of that
>>317637245
>mod
mods =/= whatever sora LTD cooks up, you can enjoy your fan game all you want
>>317634857
fuck this new shit, Solid Snake is the classic character so is a much better choice
>>317636994
>>317636843
>Before Brawl came out people thought they'd remove Jiggs
>They didn't
>Before Sm4sh came out people thought they'd remove Jiggs
>They didn't
>People think that they'll remove Jiggs in the next game
>>317637237
The problem is, I'm struggling to think of first party newcomers that Sakurai would consider.
The thing is, I think people like K. Rool and Isaac are the type of characters that would of been in the base roster if they were to be in. Like, I couldn't imagine characters like Palutena and Robin being DLC. When you look at Cloud and Ryu, they're both iconic, mainstream and popular to the general public enough to the point where they could sell on their own. I don't get that impression with someone like K. Rool.
>>317629259
>Not Melee Mode
Just keep Pikachu,Mewtwo,and Lucario.
>>317634528
That's why Black Shadow should be added and given Ganon's current moveset. Then the guy who is a lot like Falcon could be from the same series, and Ganon could be better represented.
>>317637442
just because they SHOULD doesn't mean they will
ganon should have been changed in brawl like falco and luigi, but here we are
>>317636350
Pichu is cute.
Roy is red firey Marth without tippers.
>>317635979
Cloud looked like a ryu clone to me.
>>317637551
Ganon was changed in Brawl, though. He's still generally based on Falcon but he had more differences from the Cap. It's like how Falco was still based on Fox despite having differences in A moves and such.
>>317637584
Nah I think it was fake, his face looked just like Little Mac's.
>>317637521
>Black Shadow should be added and given Ganon's current moveset.
faggots like you make me want to strangle a cat, have you ever PLAYED f-zero before?
>>317637461
>mainstream and popular to the general public enough to the point where they could sell on their own
I reckon that`s the reason why OP implies they will come in a bundle, just like in Ryu`s case
>>317635238
>That blatant Hyrule Warriors ripoff
That ain't Young Link or Zelda
>>317632382
on top of that the Links are more of projectile characters anyway
Pattern fags need to die
You were wrong on fucking everything
>>317630342
does anyone give a crap about mewtwo in smash4, he seems so shit
>>317632523
>wanting Raichu
>not Emolga as a lightweight Charizard clone
>>317637671
I meant they should have changed his moveset to better reflect his character
>>317637308
Jigglypuff probably got in partially because Kirby was already in and gave them a similar model to work from.
>>317637737
But the OP has Pichu and Wolf in there. I'm talking about newcomers.
Veterans are a different story because they take less time to make and already have had presence in Smash.
>Pichu
>not Jibanyan
>>317637836
>tfw they always assume a pattern from a singular example
>>317637837
Only Meleefags wanted him in because "muh nostalgia."
Nobody cares about him now because he plays like shit
>>317629259
>Trying to find a pattern in Sakurai's choices.
>>317637887
That's what they kinda did, though. Ganondorf's animations in Brawl/Smash 4 evoke that of a freakishly powerful warlord. His Side B is even based on an animation of his from Twilight Princess, when he chokes one of the sages.
>>317637837
no, only filthy meleefags who ruined the DLC with 2 garbage characters
>>317636994
You only hate Jigglypuff because it kicks your ass. Now granted, Jigglypuff only got into Smash in the first place because Pokemon had just kicked off 2 years prior to its release and Jigglypuff was one of the most popular at that time. That said, it is a Smash original, and no amount of irrelevancy is going to take it away. I don't see anyone complaining about Ness or Captain Falcon, even though they've been arguably less relevant in games than even Jigglypuff. At least that series still gets games.
>>317637584
kek
>>317629259
>they did it this way this one time
>so this next time they must follow this exact formula
>>317637723
>implying that capt. falcon wasn't originally meant to be a joke character, similar to wii fit trainer in 4, and that f-zero's lore has anything to do with what sakurai does
While I'd love for Snake to be back, I don't know if Konami is willing to hand him over, since that whole Kojima leaving fiasco. They seem like the type to withhold Snake out of spite.
>>317638187
>YOU HATE IT CAUSE YOU CAN'T BEAT IT
I'm not the guy you replied to but you are a fucking retard. You do know outside of melee jiggs is fucking garbage right?
>comparing main characters of classic nintendo series vs. a minor, unpopular pokemon
fucking kek, I love it when retards try to justify jigglypuff's inclusion
>>317638115
Roy is good though. M2 is just shit because of how obnoxiously light he is for no reason
he plays like a sentient balloon animal
>>317629259
>There are actually in this realm of existance people who wants Pichu back.
>>317632382
>half of the swords are FE characters
>the other half have unique styles
>>317638346
When you think about it, Sakurai basically designed Captain Falcon to be an F-Zero vehicle with legs.
>speed
>power
>sharp turns
>the fire
It's like how Fox's specials (and ergo the other spacies) are all based on his Arwing (shoot, boost, reflect).
I would buy a Wii U and sm4sh if they'd include mirai.
>>317638423
>roy is good
>third marth
>fifth FE sword user
no, roy is garbage. I don't mean he's bad viably, he's bad because his character is a terrible addition to a roster that was already bloated with shitty FE characters.
Same goes for mewtwo, except he has the duality of also being shit in viability
>>317634781
Tingle is the only answer, that is if you actually want more zelda characters.
Zelda is already represented enough
>>317638423
>how obnoxiously light he is for no reason
This, plus the rage mechanic. I think he is the one that gets the bitterest end of rage from all cast,
>>317633626
God. I want Sceptile so badly. I would give up sex for the rest of my life if it meant getting Sceptile in Smash. I am NOT kidding.
>>317637582
There are cuter pokemon
>>317629259
tfw no Bayonetta, Ice Climbers and Squirtle/Snake pack
>>317638589
Adding Roy wasn't a problem, Adding Lucina was.
>>317638652
already an AT
and zelda isn't represented enough, it's the third most popular next to mario and pokemon but got no additions. I mean, it has the same amount of characters as FE which almost died
>>317638761
neither should be in, Ike filled their quota. If they wanted recent representation Ike should have been replaced with chrom and no lucina or roy
>>317633383
>sakurai ever giving a fuck about the Zelda franchise
anon, pls
>>317638589
Roy owns, sorry you can't cope with that. FE characters are awesome even if there are 3 who play pretty much the same. I'm fine with that, because the extra Marths are way cooler than Marth himself so I enjoy playing them more
also Roy is way less shit than Marth
marthcina is bad in this game but i play lucy anyway because i like her and shes there
>>317638418
A series so classic that Nintendo, the king of sequels, doesn't want to continue making it. And let's be honest, more people know who Jigglypuff is than Ness or Captain Falcon. Smash was a lot of people's first and possible still the only exposure to those two.
>>317638418
> You do know outside of melee jiggs is fucking garbage right?
She's 6th in 64, literally middle of the road.
>>317638761
>Having a problem with Lucina
What kind of misogynist are you anyway?
>>317638883
Roy should have been kept in because the concept of removing characters from fighting games (or party games if you're going to be a fag about it) is silly in itself.
I would just be happy if they added Dr. Mario costume DLC to Mario so I can keep my FLUDD.
Just reminding you of the real ballot winner.
>>317637992
especially after we got FUCKING CLOUD STRIFE
>>317638958
>Not having a problem with the third Marth
Roy was the original Marth clone, if they were going to make a clone of Marth anyway, he shouldn't of been removed. Lucina's the problem here because she's a literal shittier Marth.
>>317638931
>roy owns
>worst lord in the series
I don't think so
>>317635402
>forgetting Star Fox
>>317639087
>worst lord in the series
Have you played his game or are you just meme spouting? Roy breaks his game and is a badass in the lore.
>>317638589
Just because you don't like fire emblem doesn't make him badUs roy mains have waited 14 years for him to be good at something and now our patience has awarded us, he deserves SOMETHING good for once
>>317639024
>detest furries with a passion
>see krystal
My dick is confused
>>317629259
Wolf wouldn't surprise me, but Pichu has been replaced by similar pikachu clones FOUR TIMES now in his own games. Pachirisu could be fun though, they could make him a more defensive pikachu in reference to the world chamionships.
>>317638708
he has zero resistance to knockback, and his side B leaves you open to counterattacks before you can respond
why does this guy keep making moves and then being like "but nah it's not safe so it's better to just do other moves"
same with samus' second jab, even the fucking LOADING TIP says "don't bother using her second jab"???
he just removed the ability to use moves in ways other than intended. Shines are a good example. Shines in Melee had a purpose. Now it is nerfed to be ONLY usable for its INTENDED purpose (reflecting projectiles)
>>317631008
anon pls
>>317636238
It's still not fair that Grass is the only starter type to constantly get shafted
>bad type matchups
>no Grass-type in Sm4sh
>no Grass-type in Pokken
It's just so fucking unfair. Face it. Practically everyone has an irrational bias against this type.
>>317639164
>Have you played his game
Yes I have and he was shit.
He only breaks the game in the last 4 chapters, when it barely even matters.
>>317639170
>good as something
ya, instead of being a shittier marth he's not a shittier Ike. Congrats
>>317639164
Roy is fucking garbo till near end game
>>317639024
I'd be fine with Krystal if she used the staff. But as long as Sakurai is in charge she'd just be another landmaster.
>>317639404
*now
>>317639404
>>317639398
Something isn't right here. It was a while ago, but I remember relying on Roy constantly during his game.
>>317638589
Smash bros. Needs something like the naruto games. 3 tag team supports like an eliwood,hector,and lyn team. Or something like Dissidia.
>>317639087
I know you are just parroting what you have heard on /v/ or whatever. But the meme is that Roy doesn't become a badass (Lord) until the end for plot reasons, so the joke is that despite being the MC of his own game his stats are really bad until the last minute. and even then not great. he got held back by the plot and suffered as an in-game unit.
>>317639072
Plus she's pretty lazy as far as clones go.
>no tipper
>smaller hitbox and shorter range
>up tilt does more damage to opponents behind her
>>317639024
>officially confirmed to not even be in Star Fox Zero
>she's totally gonna be Smash DLC guys
Just bring Banjo/Kazooie. Or Goemon. Or Bomberman. Or Battletoads, or maybe Double Dragon dudes.
Or Joanna Dark. If there will be no Snake, at least give us Joanna.
Will never happen though.
>>317633748
>Rathalos set has appeared in literally every game and just about every crossover
Okay then
>>317639619
>Rareware characters
You guys are cute
Thinking they even have a chance just because some guy at microsoft said they'd like the idea of them appearing in smash
>>317639404
>shittier Ike
come on, are you really THAT desperate to find reasons to hate a character?
>Pichu
fuck that
when are customs for DLC characters coming?
>>317639365
>mfw I`ve been choosing grass starters every gen except in Sinnoh
I at least hope pokken gets something because I`ve no hope anymore to smash
>>317639518
I suggest taking a look at the game again.
These are his average Level 20 Lord stats. AKA the stats he has for about 90% of his game.
He's shit.
>>317634781
Skull kid.
Phi or whatever the fuck it was.
>>317639805
he's a third clone added as DLC from a selection of 5 swordsman from the same series, what is there not to hate?
>>317639797
I already said it would never happen but thanks for the heads up.
>>317639943
Don't hate Roy, hate Lucina. She's worthless.
>>317639895
That's an unfair assessment, considering Roy's game is a game of low stats in the first place.
Wolf will be the last veteran.
One ballot character plus another third party character. Several new stages,costumes,and themes released.
>>317640067
lucina took very little resources to make. In the place of Roy, we could have had another character. Plus, Roy is extra money whereas lucina was in the base game
say i was to start collecting amiibos right now will i be able to find all aniibos for around 15 a piece? or will they go up in value? or some shit
>>317640214
How do you know Roy wasn't fanservice in the same fashion Lucina was?
>>317639060
that's just advertising, ff7 hd is coming to the nintendo nx
>>317640340
I don't understand what fanservice has to do with what I said
>>317640067
But everybody else in the game still can grow in the midgame.
Roy has shitty stats that are stuck in limbo, while everybody else is at least getting levels.
>>317640345
imagine if that came to the virtual console bundled with cloud.
honestly I really want these two. wanted them since they were found in the brawl files. it wont happen because no ice climbers, but they would be so good.
>>317640510
Imagine Cloud in super mario maker
What Smash needs is a badass old man character.
>>317640454
Look, the point I'm trying to make is that any argument you can make for Lucina isn't a very good one. Lucina wasn't asked for, Roy was. At the end of the day, if they were going to have a Marth clone anyway, why make an alternate costume her own character when we had better Marth clone already?
She doesn't belong.
>yfw
>>317640746
I never said lucina was good, she's shit too
but at least she took very little dev resources/time and she was in before roy.
>roy was asked for
yes I'm sure the masses were clamoring for a third marth who is one of the worst lords from his series
>>317640479
I can see your point, but man this is weird.
I definitely don't remember Roy being shitty at all. I remember him clearing maps.
Maybe I'm just delusional or something, or the RNG blessed me.
>>317640885
>not sub zero
>>317637837
He's actually my favorite Pokemon and I wanted him back since he was one of my mains. I like most of the tweaks they made.
>>317639060
Honestly trying to find a pattern in Sakurai's choice of characters has been an an exercise in futility since WFT was announced
>>317640947
You can't make the argument for dev time or character slots because those aren't actual things in Smash. It's either them or nothing. Either Lucina or nothing, either Roy or Ryu alone.
>>317640605
You and me are one of few who want these little rats. Imagining a Pikachu styled two character fighter just seems really fun.
