What is DESPAIR again, /v/?
Mukuro is better
Junko being fictional
>>317624189
True despair is knowing you will never eat her booty.
Future > Hope > Despair
Search your heart, you know it to be true
>>317624312
This
>Junko will never sit on your face
Why do I continue to exist?
>>317624189
tfw no gf
>>317624369
Don't, you're not needed
>>317624189
DESPAIR is that perfectly chub Chiaki doesn't exist
What people experience when they're waifu will never be as perfect as Touko-chan.
>>317624189
Not being able to impregnate Junko-chan
>>317624189
knowing that sonia is not a virgin
>>317625803
that was a japanese joke that was lost in translation. Sonia responded to a word that could mean "young girl" or "virgin"
>>317624189
true despair is that i'll never be smothered by komaru's thighs
>>317624189
I want to rape and impregnate Junko.
>>317626802
That would be implying she won't enjoy it in the first place.
>>317628763
But rape would cause despair and thus ultimate pleasure.
>>317628763
If you rape Junko, doesn't that mean it wouldn't actually be rape?
She would obviously be enjoying it, being in despair and all.
>>317629096
But it would be a paradox if she's enjoying it. A person in despair feels hopeless and bitter and depressed, which even physiologically it would make no sense.
Best girl 10/10 would smell her kneesocks
>>317629890
THAT'S LEWD, ANON!
>>317629424
You should understand that Junko's whole character doesn't work due to this. Enjoying despair is a paradox, and there's no way it can ever make sense
>>317630895
So she doesn't really exist and it's all in our minds, or she doesn't actually really enjoy "feeling despair" and she's actually sad and depressed? Or is it, she's actually a really crazy person and has gravely misunderstood what despair really is?
>>317630895
If some people can have a cutting fetish, then why can't you have a despair fetish?
you guys are fucking pathetic lmao
>>317631546
Because being in despair demands complete and total sorrow. How can you be elated while also being depressed? It doesn't make sense
>>317631546
Because cutting yourself and getting off to it doesn't present a paradox of any kind, believe it or not. And half the time people do it because they love the attention they get for doing it.
>>317630895
Not really. Junko's just an extreme sadomasochist
>>317631819
It seems like she's both sadist and masochist at the same time. Kinky as fuck
>>317624189
Despair is love!
>>317631928
That is what sadomasochism means.
Junko might be good for crazy wild sex, but Mahiru is pure!
>>317632031
I figured it was a blanket term for being involved in either sadism or masochism. My bad.
>>317632057
Why do you think she has a camera?
>>317631819
That doesn't mean she wouldn't present a paradox by enjoying despair. That was his point. Her character is just a self-contradiction because of that. Not saying that she can't exist if she's simply just a pretentious sadomasochist talking all this crap about enjoying despair, unless it's OTHER people's despair she enjoys, but it's certainly not possible to enjoy her own.
>>317624369
Don't remind me
>>317632318
To take pictures of people smiling and having fun?
tfw no vita to play 2
I want Mahiru to film me getting killed
>>317625934
You think it's a joke but considering she became part of ultimate despair i'm sure she's not as pure as you think, fagot.
>>317624189
Despair is wonderful. Every time something bad happens to me in life, I always come out better than I was before. I can't explain it, but feeling despair actually feels pretty refreshing.
Whenever I feel despair I feel nothing but regret and sorrow, but after it passes I feel amazing.
Has anyone else experienced this?
>>317632675
>>317632831
Sounds like you need to be hopefully enriched
>>317632446
that's just what she wants you to think.
Mahiru thread?
How come there's no Ultimate/Super High School Level Nihilism? Seems like the perfect counter to despair. You'll never, ever get them to despair.
Chiaki thread
>>317633032
She's not my favorite but she's really cute. I love her hairstyle.
Just here to collect images desu.
Zetsubou.
>>317633152
not a real person
>>317633050
Because Ultimate Hope already exists and having some guy who's going to sit there and not choose either side would be pointless.
>>317633294
He wouldn't chose either side because there are no sides.
The ultimate hope can still feel despair. The Ultimate nihilism wouldn't give a shit
It would be a funny character to add.
>>317633212
She was taken way too early. Should've been a Case 3 victim at the earliest.
>>317633280none of them are real
>>317633294
What if Ultimate Nihilist is also an extremist(ironically), and constantly tries to sway people away from both hope and despair? Like a Junko/Komaeda for a 3rd party?
>>317632831
It's called a catharsis, dingus.
>>317624189
Pretty much the opposite of DETERMINATION
>>317633050
...Because when you're in despair, you're already feeling there's no meaning to life, idiot.
>>317633528
She's not even real in their world
That's doubly pathetic
>>317633540
Is there such thing as a person who is such a nihilist they'd not move out the way of incoming death? I bet most of them would suspiciously turn at that exact point.
I want someone to ERP as Junko for me.
>He doesn't ERP with/as Junko on infinitechan's erp board
S m h t b h f a m
>>317633412
>>317633540
>Fate of the world comes down to whoever Ultimate Nihlist sides with
>Junko and Makoto are are unable to convince him to join a side
>Junko despairing over the fact that she can't break someone
>Makoto getting increasingly frustrated with Mr. Ultimate Negative Nancy
>>317633872
I don't think self preservation and nihilism counter each other out. I mean they'll still eat food because they get hungry or like the taste.
>>317633687
BECAUSE of the thing that's making you despair, nihilists feel that way because they feel life is inherently pointless.
>>317633896
>tfw ERPing as Junko for one of my friends
I'm the hugest faggot but I love it so much
Theres not nearly enough pron of her in the ponytail and glasses.
>mfw I found her dead
I hope one of the next characters is the Ultimate Religious Fundamentalist and he's a Muslim suicide bomber.
I'd call him the Ultimate Terrorist but that's pretty much already Junko
>>317634246
Stop making me jealous anon.
>>317634245
It's seldomly a case where nihilists actually just become born with the sentiment of nihilism and it's always just because they're trying to be fedoras. Life is full of mind and belief conditioning events.
>>317634354
I knew she was dead meat because she was too normal. I was kinda hoping she'd be the Kyoko/"Smart nice character" because she was pretty capable in the first class trial, but that's Chiaki's spot
I don't trust this guy
>>317634496
Most nihilists are whiny little faggots who're mad there's no god.
>>317633687
That's not true.
>>317634785
Right. They could portray a facet of humanity by having a pretentious college type be the nihilist guy, but I fear someone would take his wax nihilism theosophy too seriously if they are already autistic about the other things.
>>317634804
>de·spair /dəˈsper/
>1. the complete loss or absence of hope.
Now tell me how someone finds meaning or even attempts to find meaning in life when he has no hope left to even bother trying to live.
Noam Chomsky and I are listening.
>>317634785
>pic
That's exactly what I mean by an ultimate nihilist. They aren't some depressed faggot, they just wouldn't care.
"Hey man, give into DESPAIR!"
Nah, I'm good senpai
"That's right, you have to HOPE!"
Nah, that's not my style either
"Right, that's why you have to build a new FUTURE"
That doesn't really matter either
>>317635203
Losing hope means you had it in the first place.
A true nihilist wouldn't feel either of those things, or at least wouldn't care.
>>317635214
Okay, you win this round.
>>317635214
Now that I think about it, I really like this idea, and would serve as a great antidote to Junko's character, afterall. And he'd be able to fuck with Junko without even caring that he's doing so. Fund this.
It would actually be fun to have a character like that in a DR game because convincing him would either be easy as shit or hard as fuck
>>317635214
Most nihilists would likely pick the side that ends with them not dying because while life lacks meaning, that doesn't mean they want to die.
So in the end, they're either going to be a pragmatic murderer or on the side of hope if they think they're too obvious a suspect.
If you disagree with this list then you're wrong.
>>317635650
or pick the side that they have the most friends with, probably.
>>317634246ERP with me too.
>>317624189
>>317635714
>crown Junko that low
I'll fight you
>>317635650
>>317635821
Depends on the school of nihilism you (passively) subscribe to, really.
>>317635997
I want her to squeeze me with those thighs.
>>317634354
Take a guess who my second favorite girl was in DR2.
Let's just say I don't like Case 2 very much.
>>317636065
What a slut
>>317636240
Eh, it doesn't matter.
>>317635950
Nah, my friend gets special treatment becausehe buys me food irl all the time
>>317636371
how rude, Junko is a pure maiden
>>317624189
>the anime will never be as good as the game
>>317636376
Whatever, I wasn't interested in knowing, anyway.Japan would just make this character a tsundere or whatever
>>317634496
Nihilism is a choice made on a logical observation on the state of life as I see it, so I guess you could say there was a straw that broke the camel's back but I still think it's a choice whereas a death in the family is forcing someone to despair. (unless you feel people choose to handle death with despair I dunno)
>>317636469
A literal whore
>That feel when mahiru has the same haircut and face as komaru, minus the ahoge, and is somehow less popular despite not truly being a dyke while Komaru is arguably bi.
Why? Mahiru is superior in every way compared to Cumaru
>>317636469
>>317636065
>something is always covering her butt
Is this true despair?
>>317636731
Girls don't have butts in the front, anon.
>>317636684
No, she's not. Junko is secretly a sweet girl who wants to hold hands and be embraced warmly, but the Hedgehog's Dinner or whatever prevents her from opening up because she's afraid of getting hurt, so she puts on a farce in the way she acts.
>>317636731
you tell me
>>317636841
They do in anime.
new info in December
get hype
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/11/07-1/special-new-danganronpa-v3-event-scheduled-for-december-2
>>317636905
Maybe you're right
>>317624189
I don't even like those shitty games, I just come to these threads to fap. Are you fags ok with that?
>>317636686
Kumaru was a main character and didn't act like a bitch.
>>317636905
She probably just had some fucked up parents is all.
Was Owlman a true nihilist?
That's a good point though, funny how insanity in Joker's case and nihilism in Owlman's cses all resulted in negative actions, Joker's insanity never drove him to randomly give people money.
>>317636410
What if I buy yougames
>>317637161
no, that's illegal
>>317631779
It's not impossible to get a warped kind of satisfaction from negative emotions. As an example just look at Fortune from MGS2, she admitted that she was fucking stupid for getting caught up in her little sad drama when there was no real reason for it in the first place. To be a DESPAIR fag like Junko you would just need to consciously decide that the warped happiness is preferable to the real happiness, unlike Fortune who would've preferred the real happiness but got caught up in the fake kind because of an incorrect view of reality.
>>317637286
No, she even explains that she and her sister were just born fucked up and feel pleasure from pain and despair.
>>317637286
We're going to go back in time to save her from her parents Buford Tannen and whoever.
Obligatory
Post DR vita wallpapers plss
>>317637839
>placing kirigiri that high
>placing chihiro that low
Shit taste anon.
>>317637839
>Mikan
but the ass was fat
>>317633152
Sure.
Isn't there some kind of livestream for DR on the 26th or something?
>>317637993
>placing kirigiri that high
>Implying it isn't a suitable place for best girl
Horrid taste.
I want female Nagito
>>317637504
Mukuro was never a despair freak like Junko. She was broken and manipulated like the Ultimate Despairs in DR2.
Besides, Junko's probably full of shit.
>Twin sisters
>One is the Ultimate Analyst, the other is the Ultimate Soldier
>Mukuro ran away from home to join a mercenary group when she was 14-15
>One or both of them changed their last name
The fact that a family would have twin girls who just happen to have two of the most powerful talents available is a bit convenient, especially given all the people who try to research and control talent in this series.
My bet is that they had some fucked up parents who wanted to rule the world through their kids and forced these talents onto onto Junko and Mukuro through extreme, mind breaking training. Mukuro ran away and Junko snapped.
>>317637839
>meme girls in elder god
All are shit waifu but Kirigiri
Think with your mind, not just the dick
>>317637839
>Toko
>Above average
>>317638184
Well shit it's actually on the 24th so that's tomorrow. It's not about V3 though apparently
>>317637839
>Mikan that low
other than that, decent list
>>317638530
Stop trying to come up with excuses for Junko's shit dude. Some people are just born evil, and Junko wants to push her evil onto everybody else.
It's worth noting that Junko is the only villain besides Nagito who commit bad things without needing to be manipulated. If it turns out that "it was muh parents" all along, that just ruins her character as well as all the other characters she influenced.
>>317638860
I doubt they'll ever do that to Junko. She irredeemably evil and that's her whole character. It's too late to do it anyway and they had ample time.
>>317638790
Sonia should be higher
>tfw no giant Junko gf
>>317632831
That's literally Nagito's philosophy. You don't love despair, you love the hope after overcoming such despair
>>317639667
>Toko
>Akane
>Byakuya
>Hiro or whatever that faggot's name was
>fucking Kaz
why is it always the worst characters that survive
>>317639875
Is hiro the guy with the big hair? I almost forget he was even in that game.
>>317624189
Which Dangan Ronpa smells like ass?
>>317638860
>>317639018
DR3 will likely have some sort time travel, so it's still possible we'll get to see some of Junko's past. I also find it suspicious how almost every detail of Junko's past is omitted. Nothing about her parents or childhood are ever brought up.
Besides, it's pretty clear that the "Junko is the mastermind" twist was thrown in fairly last minute. The writer had to make DRZero just to actually make Junko's talent make sense. It wouldn't surprise me if he's been trying to write a reason for Junko's insanity this whole time.
>>317640048
kinda funny that this conversation could only ever happen after she finds out she helped cover up a murder
>people hating on my ultimate gymnast waifu
>>317640026
yeah, big hair guy. There's even a throw away line where Hina tells him he didn't always act clinically retarded and he says something along the lines of "my personality wasn't fully developed back then." The one time I liked him but also symbolic of why he's a shit character
I don't know who this girl is, but she's pretty cute.
>>317640048
too much worst girl itt
>>317640112
You posted her
>>317641024
Up yours, nigger.
>>317637504
Politicians say this and that, and then it turns out they were lying about themselves. QED, she could be lying about herself and so can anybody else. Hell, I'd hate to point to House MD, but anyone who's watched that show knows one of House's many remarks is "everybody lies"which then he once snarkily said "I lied" supposedly when someone didn't lie
That said, parents would be a easy cheesy scapegoat and probably a little cliche. Then again, so are many devices.
>>317641024
*tips hat*
>>317641278
>>317641627
She was in over her head
>>317640934
she's adorable
>>317641426
I think a combination of both would work better than just one or the other. Maybe Junko was born a little fucked up in the head but it was her parents pushed her over edge.
>>317638790
>He hates Akane
>>317642023
Junko x Makoto is my favorite pairing desu
>>317642876
>her creaming herself over him in DR2
Shit was hot as fuck senpai. Honestly Junko by herself isn't a big deal, it's just that for whatever reason edgy faggots listen to her edgy philosophy and ruin the world.
Sure she did some irredeemable shit, but you have to put that in the perspective of "she only did it because betas enabled her"
>>317642591
I'm just not fully convinced it would sound good and it would come out a little corny like FFXIII quality writing, especially with the way Japanese animes love to attribute everything to their parents. I mean in some Freudian sense it works out, but a good portion of the time in media like vidya, the implementation of such a literary device is often either mediocre or really atrocious.
If they did such a thing like that, it would have to be the most unlaziest thing they have ever written and showing some kind of development throughout childhood rather than a single spark. The latter is like, "I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus, so I hate all women because they're whores!" or something incredibly retarded. A simple correction to that would be "I saw my mom kissing Santa Claus a lot, and over time my perception of mom started to degrade, and as I saw other women doing the same thing, I started feeling that way about all women in general". Not to say that exact kind of correction is going to work either, but it's an example of the direction that writing should work, which is exactly how FFXIII wasn't written.
I think it should be a combination of things and not solely the parents. Such as, the parents may have done something fucked up, but other things like abandonment by society or their innocent bystander treatment of her helplessness (or whathaveyou) would have to be another variable in the scenario. Sad to say, you'd have to have backstory detail that takes about the length of MGS4's explanation of things by Big Boss.
>>317642876
>>317636281
was the easiest murder to figure out too. Only evidence you needed was autopsy.
>>317643097
>"she only did it because betas enabled her"
Why does that ring familiar in today's world?
>>317645314
>This boring manlet gets all these hot women lusting after him
This is the true despair.
>yfw you realizedNagito filled a fire grenade with poison gas
>>317645656
>mfw nagito was actually good
>>317645656
It's virtual, i'll give it a pass.
>>317645505
>>317636281
She hit her so hard a good 3rd of that bat is covered in blood, jesus.
I like how even if you win against Junko, she still doesn't lose.
>>317636281
>>317638790
>chihiro
Huehuehue
Shit list m8.
I want to slay Junko with my penis!
>>317647703
No, she does lose, losing just turns her on though.
If any of the betas she despaired said no at any point she'd probably splooge.
>>317647080
This is now my favourite pairing
>>317645505
Junko x Makoto is hot enough, but add in Mukuro and it gets better.
>>317648230
Mukuro and Makoto are still my favourite
Posting best girl.
>>317648549
I know we all have vastly different tastes, but can we at least all agree that Genocider Jack/Jill/Shou is far better than Toko?
>>317649285
Anything is better than Toko
>>317649529
This
Posting best girl
>>317624189
Junko is the best.
>Both Danganronpa 3 and Zero Escape 3 deal with time travel.
Which you more excited for?
>>317650982
Junko is hot but she's pretty objectively the worst. She ruined the entire world because she gets her rocks off on making people sad. Take away her boobs and she's a villain with shit motivation
>>317651070
>Danganronpa 3 [will] deal with time travel.
ARE YOU GUYS READY TO LIVE IN A WORLD WITH FIVE DIOS AND THREE JUNKOS
>Used to have dreams of her riding on top of me and slowly choking me out
>Haven't had one in forever
I missherthem
>>317651145
>a villain that did it not because of some sob story, not because they were betrayed, an ancient evil, or something incredibly stupid
>instead
>a villain that did it because destroying people's lives got them aroused
I dunno, I kinda like it.
>>317624189
seeing this thread every day
>>317651145
Being evil because it's the only thing that can get you off is actually fairly unrealistic and less generic than "because I'm just evil"
Best thing about her is how genuine she is.
She didn't suddenly hesitate when she was on the shit end of the stick, she just enjoyed it even more.
>>317632831
But that's true despair. You can't and never will escape true despair. For example, realizing I'm stuck with my 4.5 inch for life brings TRUE despair.
>>317651269
>>317651469
I honestly can't imagine a more unrealistic villain than Junko. Who revolves their entire life around despair? Honestly the dumbest thing about the series is that everybody... fuck I'm somewhat drunk, I can't think of the word I want? Justifies? Encourages? They fan the flames on that stupid hope vs. despair dichotomy that doesn't exist in real life. Which is fine in the DR universe because clearly this is a thing that exists there, as seen with Nagito
>>317651469
>Faiorly unrealistic
I mean fairly realistic*
People do crazy shit in real life to get off sexually, so Junko is pretty relatable.
>>317632831
I actually think I understand what you mean to a point.
There is a sense of enjoyment when I'm sad or feeling like shit, I think it's because it gives me a reason to have self pity or something.
>>317637839
>>317638790
umm why is there a dude in there?
>>317651070
I'm a bit more excited for DR3. I just like murder mysteries more.
>>317651254
>tfw when I barley ever dream and when I do it's usually about working at Toy's R Us or something stupid.
At least Celeste was in one of my dreams once. She didn't do anything but it was still kind of neat.
>>317651778
Not those two guys butI think the reason I like Junko so much as a villain is mainly because of how much she enjoys herself. She seems like she's having the time of her life ruining the world and it's oddly endearing.
>>317651145
Like I said earlier, it's not her fault that beta males enable her.
>>317652056
I can't see any dudes
>>317637839
>>317638790
I would never fuck Sakura, but she's genuinely one of the best girls.
I don't mean that in the ironic way either, she's actually a really great character, not only respectable and likable, but got shit done.
>>317652186
in the meh tiers dude
>>317637839
>Sakura
>Meh Tier
She's too bro for that, man. Bump her up.
>>317652362
>bro
>is a traitor
>>317652417
>Sakura
>traitor
>>317652260
Hacker girl, Camera bitch are females and so is sayaka
If you think camera bitch is a boy just because of the shorter hair she isn't, trust me dude
>>317652656
Chihiro is a dude. He has a dick. Even by tumblr standards, he doesn't identify as a girl. He's embarrassed that he's small and weak so he dresses up as a girl so he won't get picked on. He wanted to start working out so he could start wearing boy clothes
>>317652650
Junko was planning to use Sakura to kick off the killing games since she told her that her gym would be destroyed if she didn't do what she said. Fortunately for Sakura, Sayaka started the games faster than Junko expected.
>>317652896
He's also really really cute
>>317652896
>penis
>automatically means its a dude
Look Sir/Sirette, I'm very sorry to tell you, but you're being problematic
>>317637839
Mad
>>317653073
His mom was pretty hot
>>317653146
Sonia killed whatsherface by telling her that a full length mirror was in Titty Twister or whatever the fuck the music place was called
Okay guys, this is the official and factual one.
>>317653340
Sonia actually felt very guilty about that
>>317653360
why is Kyoko so low? She was pretty bro except for that time she tried to sacrifice Makoto for herself and then he took the bait
>>317653590
Cause she's an insanely generic kuudere?
Also cause of what you said.
>>317653661
speak english weeb
>>317653497
yeah, for like 2 minutes and then, everyone continued with their lifes
>>317653360
>no chiaki
Why would you do this anon? Is this true despair?
>>317653360
>Everyone in above average tier is touching their hands
huh.
>>317625092
You know, I feel bad. AE did Toko's character an even grander justice than I thought. And she's not even my Waifu.That title belongs to Fujisaki, boy or not.
My friend, who an hero'd back in June, though, would've loved the game to pieces because of that.
Junko is honestly an extremely vapid character. All flash, no substance. I enjoyed DR1 and SDR2 and plan to play V3 but goddamn, the mastermind of the mystery basically "doing it for the lulz" was a real letdown.
And no, it didn't make me despair. It was an extremely mild, flat sort of disappointment.
>>317653146
>Kiyoko died before she got hot
Such a tragedy.
>>317653741
Well, rightfully so. No one really gave a shit about Hiyoko, she was a terrible character.
>>317653884
Her comatose body is still hot, though.
>>317653728
its a single fucking japanese term
>Kuudere is a popular anime/manga character archetype that derives from the Japanese pronunciation of the English word 'cool'.
Think a mix of like mental coldness (as in a cold personality) and actual coolness
can someone say Sparkling Justice catchphrasein spanish?
>>317653835
It's more like "doing it for the orgasms"
She's just very sexually fustrated and desperate to catch her next fix.
She also happens to be very beautiful and therefore charismatic
>>317624189
to anyone alive heres a dropbox with junko images
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fqzq5i08j60zca1/Junko.zip?dl=0
>>317654000
>tfw no hot Kiyoko gf who's actually Junko
>>317654019
yeah but she's helpful and like the only other capable person in DR1 other than Makoto
>>317654325
>Who is Sakura
>>317654325
I never said she wasn't useful or even bad in general, I'm just describing her character type
Byakuya is also pretty useful until the last two cases, and even then Kirigiri isn't useful in the last two cases much anyways
>>317654034
No contaban con mi astucia
>Mondo
>Sakura
>Hiro
>Akane
>fucking Nekomaru
>school students
what the fuck are these 20 something years old faggots on a highschool?
>>317653360
>Mikan
>that low
>>317654456
Sakura barely ever participated in Class Trials. She was just the body guard over dead bodies and she had the fortitude to kill herself after spilling the beans on Alter Ego
>>317654537
Game takes place like two or three years after they actually attend Hope's Peak via mind-wiping mumbo jumbo.
>>317654524
Byakuya is barely useful. Go back and play; he's either being coy and wants everyone else to figure something out or he genually doesn't know shit. I'd say Makoto and Kyoko are on the same level as Hajime, Nagito, and Chiaki. Not Byakuya though
>>317654537
High school students being tall or mature looking isn't exactly unusual. Nekomaru is a bit extreme but honestly Mondo, Yasuhiro, and Akane wouldn't be terribly out of place as high school juniors or seniors. Sakura is fucking Yujiro from Baki the Grappler and is an bizarre exception.
>>317654982
I wish I didn't get spoiled with this, I would have liked to read it.
>252 / 109 / 68 / 3
lol.
>>317655090
Then go and read it
Its a great book regardless
