Fallout 4 comfy settlements thread.
post your towns, /v/
the tarberries give us strength
>>317537895
What if you're attacked from the other side of Sanctuary though? Also:
>Building in Sanctuary in the first place
>Not building your base at the Castle
>>317537895
That is some fantastic shit right there
>>317538503
I restarted my character, so I haven't gotten to castle yet.
Besides, I usually build up Sanctuary because it's where several named NPCs as well as your pre-war home is. As the General of the Minutemen, wouldn't you bolster that naturally defensive spot into a bustling metropolis even if you take Castle as your main base? A Constantinople to your Rome?
>>317538091
top kek I love it
Damn, that's some good shit you did there.
I don't know where to build my shit for the moment.
>>317537895
Can you actually build something this good without modding?
>>317539289
I used the console to make the OP image, but only to clip some things into each other. Settlement size, resources, etc. aren't modded at all. Just be sure to scrap weapons from your inventory off the ground of your settlement rather than the benches so it tricks the settlement size limit into thinking you're taking stuff away.
The 'tcl' command is great for clipping those junk walls together so they don't have spaces all over the place. I use them for my outlying farm settlements which don't have nearly as much space as Sanctuary or Castle.
>>317539669
>but only to clip some things into each other
So you have to use console commands after all. Fucking retarded, Bethesda.
>>317537895
How many settlements can you have? I got like 7 or 8 places already and am running low on craft material to actually expand them beyond some walls, basic turrets and beds.
>>317537895
I haven't played this yet, can you post more cool settlements?
>>317537895
Jesus christ I knew graphics in fallout 4 were bad but not this bad
So glad i didnt preorder that shit
>>317540198
Right? We clearly are the superior beings here.
>>317539795
I built this without console commands, as well as repaired the walls at Castle.
Let me tell you it's a pain in the ass to get it meticulously correct though, and the clipping just makes it easier and can even add some flair to your settlement. Concrete foundations will naturally clip through the bottom of the ground to even out your walls and building so stuff isn't floating in the air and inadvertently look like shit. Maybe you're not as anal about it as I am, but even foundations can be a little fussy in some spots.
Also remember: clipping doesn't help you when trying to clip into the world's geometry that you can't alter. You just have to suck it up and try your best to make things fit without looking like shit.
>>317540073
a lot, to get more materials just scrap everything in every settlement you don't need. it all amasses over time
>>317540402
totally gonna rip off your power armor storage
>>317540402
>>317540323
I knew the autists of /v/ would make this part of the game interesting
>>317539669
>Just be sure to scrap weapons from your inventory off the ground of your settlement rather than the benches so it tricks the settlement size limit into thinking you're taking stuff away
Why? I don't understand
Can you make settlements anywhere by just spawning a workbench?
>>317540463
Not him but i have a question, is there a way to scrap junk en masse? or is transferring all the junk to the workbench enough?
>>317540834
yes there is a mod on nexus for it
>>317540834
you can but there are issues with enemy spawns and the cells not being marked to be persistent
mods will fix this eventually
>>317538503
Can you get rid of the eggs on the ground at the Castle? They bug the shit outta me and I can't seem to delete them.
>>317540834
No, there will probably be a mod for that at some point there. It's not like your hurting for settlements in this either. I'm at at-least 13 or so.
>>317540998
Transferring junk is enough, the game will scrap the shit it needs when creating stuff.
Has there been any evidence scrap benches aren't completely worthless?
>>317541108
They disappear eventually. Just wait a few days or a week in game.
>>317540817
So the settlement size meter in the top right of your UI when you build stuff will steadily increase. This is to make sure players aren't cutting Todd Howard's dick off when their frames go to shit when they tried to make a metropolis with a computer that barely meets minimum requirements. For those of us with decent computers, you can build far beyond the limit and still maintain good frames, but regardless the limit is universal for any player.
So if you want you can download a mod to manually get around the settlement size limitation, but if you're a console peasant you will have to trick the settlement size limit into thinking you're removing objects in your settlement. Say you want to add onto your settlement's wall but you can't build anymore --> go into inventory, drop all those shitty pipe pistols raiders piss out on a daily basis, then in Workshop mode scrap them while they're on the ground.
The size limit bar will steadily decrease as you scrap each weapon, thus allowing you to continue adding more stuff in your base. It's tedious but console players can't mod.
I hate how you can't remove piles of rubble
I hate how you craft things in a ruined state, it makes no sense.
I hate how despite it being 200+ years post bombs, people would rather live in rusty tin shacks than sweep out the dust and rubble from a building that is still standing and live in those.
>>317537895
how can i cheat to build the stuff for the teleporter, building shit is gay
>>317541536
just type in consoleurgay
How do you get more settlers? I've tricked out Sanctuary and have most categories above 45 yet I still only have 12 settlers including named NPCs?
>>317541197
they pretty much are but after a point you get so much settlers you might as well assign one to it
>>317541762
get more charisma, add more supply lines, more beds
>>317541762
It's tied to your base charisma +11. I have 6 charisma and 17 unnamed settlers at the drivein movie place and can't put anyone else there
>>317541197
Scrap benches passively create stuff like concrete/steel/nuclear material and puts it in your workshop.
As you might imagine, multiple settlements having these will add up if you supply line them.
>>317541987
>Settlement population is limited by the player character's Charisma. The Default Cap is 10, +1 for each point in charisma, meaning one can have a population cap of 20 (10+10). This can be further increased by wearing charisma boosting clothing and consumables. It is possible to get 38 settlers with a base Charisma of 10, the Charisma bobblehead, wearing Agatha's dress/Reginald's Suit as well as a Charisma-boosting hat and glasses, and consuming Grape Mentats, beer with the Party Boy level 2 perk, Day Tripper and X-Cell. Go to a settlement, wear the gear, pop the chems, and move settlers from the settlement to the desired settlement.
>>317542279
Well fuck me that's incredible
Can't wait until modders create really good settlement locations without annoying ass geometry and fix all the glaring construction issues.
>>317540402
is this in game fps?
>>317542709
I know some people are, but don't expect anything really good until the GECK comes out. We can't add anything new or fuck with much of anything so far.
>All these fucking normalfags playing their game.
That you're having fun is just sad. Go away.
>>317540323
Do you use tcl on the actual object or just in general without an object selected?
>>317537895
>Huge fortified front wall
>Completely exposed from the back
You fuckers even roleplay your settlements?
Daily reminder about the TCL glitch for those on PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjausOrCEw
If you PC guys aren't running this mod for your settlements, you're fucking mad as a Mexicans dog.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1145/?
You can put actual, real life trees in your settlement. Pre war cars, brotherhood of steel stuff, Institute stuff, covenant stuff, rocks, the list goes on and on.
Seriously download it.
>Wearing power armor
>Get hit by raider with a pool cue
>Staggered
Fun gaym
>le settlement game
Fuck off cunts
>>317544878
Do they require resources?
My autism will flare up if I can place props for free.
>>317540198
Dude... just look at the resolution of his screenshot. You could tell he's a poorfag with a toaster playing on low settings and shit resolution.
>>317545651
Everything costs 6 cloth for some reason.
It scraps into whatever it should be made of tho, so there is probably some nice cloth-to-whatever conversions to be had.
>spend 2 hours trying to rebuild my house
>come back to sleep my bed that I put a comfy pillow on
>some ghoul fucker is in it
this is fucking bullshit
>>317537895
>>317539669
>tcl for clipping buildings together
i spent so much time trying to make the pathing in my hangman's alley slum work...when i just could have done this...
so much time...
>>317537895
>no habitants
>>317546120
yeah i fucking hate that other settlers can even stand on my front yard. might dig in to a new base with 0 settlers. I've literally dumpstered a few settlers but if I kill another the whole town is gonna turn on me
do setlements ever get attacked?
>>317545410
>5
What's wrong anon?
Why are we not able to set ownership of a house? I'm sick of random settler cunts sleepin in mah bed.
>>317546461
Can you sandman kill them at night maybe?
I've been killing everyone I can using that perk. Killed a bunch of diamond city guards that way and no one minded whatsoever.
>>317546205
>>317546591
Yes, but they usually attack that shitty farm with two people instead of the forts you've put time into.
>>317546591
Yes especially if you don't give them adequate defenses, and if they have alot of food and water they become more attractive targets. >>317546682
>>317544878
wow
>>317546709
>>317540402
Holy shit it's like a fucking slideshow.
get a new rig already.cool settlement though
>>317546709
where did you get those concrete walls?
What's the best place to pirate dis kingz n shet?
>>317540402
Is that a parking lot?
>>317546941
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1145/?
>>317546768
Well no shit, would you rather raid a small farm with 3 people and one turret or a fucking fort with artillery, heavy turrets, traps, and many armed settlers?
>>317544878
This mod has those amazing bank vault style doors as well.
Fucking brilliant.
>>317547069
Fort, obviously. I've been attacking raider and super mutant camps already. What the fuck is the farm going to have? Food? I don't need it.
>>317546873
damn im stealing your power armor storage
Currently collecting black settlers to work my corn field prison with a giant light sign that reminds them they are niggers in the works.
>>317547009
I've been holding off on getting it
Is it buggy?
>>317545651
Just use tgm.
>>317548202
I haven't noticed any.
>>317540402
this is the power of the personal computer
>>317547069
>>317547614
>not turning every farm into a high-tech fort of a death with 20 settlers armed with fatmans
raiders don't attack me anymore for some reason
>>317548156
>tfw you have all your white settlers armed on the walls while your blacks and ghouls work the fields below
I gave up trying to make nice settlements and just turned the red rocket station into my personal base. fuck everyone else. they had 200 years to get their shit together.
>>317548202
Been messing with it for a few hours over here. No issues. The rocks are great, I just wish I could stack them into a mountain. Still working that out.
The pre war props are fucking sweet.
>>317549651
>see that mountain
>you can build it
Is Starlight the biggest settlement in the game?
How the fuck do metal corners work?
>>317548792
i did the same. just me, dogmeat, and codsworth in our own place.
Do companions need power cores in their armor if I tell them to get in it?
>>317550652
Dunno if it needs one in it but it doesn't drain
That bitch Piper just got into one on her own that I didn't even know I'd found
>>317550763
If it doesn't drain that makes me think it doesn't, but even if it just needs one to show you have them that's fine. I just don't want to be draining them twice as fast for the sake of looking cool, since really my companion is just there to hold shit and for the atmosphere.
>>317550890
I think it needs one in it. If you leave armor sitting around with a core in it, NPCs can and often will hop into it and walk around/walk off with it. Usually only if combat starts, they'll jump in it to defend themselves and won't leave it until you force them to. Take the batteries out when you park your armor anons.Caravan traders can use the power cores they carry to take your unpowered suits and run off too.
Here is my rocky entrance to sanctuary using the more props mod.
The trees look so much better than that dead shit that was there before.
>>317547009
Ugh god damn I hate myself so much. I got the game for ps4 because I wanted the pip boy (surprise it was disappointing) and because Todd fucking lied to me when he said next gen consoles would have mod support. Well now I can get those sexy concrete walls or any other mods because I'm retarded and let myself believe everything they said about it for consoles.
>2287
>building anywhere other than Spectacle Island
Fucking plebs
>>317551314
>Download this mod
>Everything costs cloth
>My shit in other settlements starts spawning in sideways
Wat
>>317551314
Muh pre war house with a pre war sports car.
>>317550387
The island is the biggest I believe. Shitty landscape though, almost impossible to make things look decent.
>>317551389
>Think Bethesda is finally going to give me a blank canvas to work with.
>All those hills and shit that make it impossible to build without shit looking like ass.
Castle and Starlight Drive in continue to be the only viable areas.
>>317551389
I like how big it is, but there's not enough actual flat land. I still use it though.
>>317538503
> What if you're attacked from the other side of Sanctuary though? Also:
Nothing, placing defenses is pointless since settlers are invincible unless you attack them
>Shoots an additional projectile
Does this mean double damage or does the second projectile do a fixed amount of damage?
>>317551976
>the spaceship actually crashed.
Well fuck. I saw it fly by too.
Once the modding tools come out this game is going to become a glorified Sims.
How do I get this cow down?
Can you build anything that doesn't look decrepit and half destroyed/cobbled together?
>>317537895
do all settlements have to look like shitholes? can you not make something look new?
>>317551976
the addional projectile is strange.
It's not fully double, it's like the extra projectile doesn't account for any bonuses like different weapons mods ore perk bonuses or something.
Nobody really knows anything other than "it's not fully double damage"
>>317552460
We can only use what we have... Until mods. Then we'll have perfect castles. Probably be able to remove all of Sanctuary and build up a probably city.
>>317552424
>Play post apocalyptic game
>Doesn't want have destroyed shit everywhere.
>>317552420
push him off with a prop
>>317552647
Yeah, but why not also have the ability to build things that don't look like scrap, like the concrete buildings from Fallout 1/2?
>>317552420
you'll need a crane to get it out
I want a floating full size UFO to be my base.
>>317552647
Anon, it's 210 years after the bombs fell. People have been living in some of the places for over 100 years continuously now.
Sure, it's not going to be spotless and the materials aren't going to be factory-fresh, but people would certainly have painted some shit and swept the floors every once in awhile. Every building you enter looks like the bombs dropped yesterday, when in reality it would take someone less than a day to clean the debris out of some of these places and maybe a sweeping a week to keep it clean. When you're living your entire life in a shithole you do what you can do make it less shitty, especially when it's so easy.
Who wants a copy of fallout 4?
YIMPB-2HYV6-RZ2QF
>>317553108
Don't really care Anon, it's a video game about a post apocalyptic world. People go in with expectations of a certain asthetic. No one watches a Mad Max film and thinks "Man I hate all these destroyed buildings they should really clean the place up"
>>317553161
duplicate key of gorky
>>317553161
Thanks senpai :^)
>>317552420
I used stairs to get on the roof and pushed him down. Then he ran to his bitch.
>>317553237
he's right tho, it's retarded. film and games are not equals, a film is an artistic cinematic experience and a game is something you play around in and explore in more detail. the buildings in mad max don't matter because they're not an important part of the film, but the buildings in fallout are very important and matter a lot. the player spends most of the game in and around buildings
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>>317552424
Sure, let me just go to the local smelting place and have them make me a clean cut shipment of steel plating and accessories. While we're at it we'll head on over the the nearby logging facility were people can meticulously make wooden crafts unimpeded out of the rotten trees.
>>317551389
>not building a prison like robbaz
>>317551381
You could always pirate it.
>>317551389
are you using tcl or is there a building camera mode?
>>317553237
Two atomic bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's only been like 70 years and both those cities are doing fine.
You guys seem to have things that I dont have. Can you find plans to build new settlement stuff?
Or is it a park that I glossed over?
>>317553931
That's an absurd comparison. They were rebuilt in part by the country that destroyed them as part of the occupation that the United States dumped tons of money and effort into. Two bombs destroyed two cities. The blockade and firebombings did more damage than the nukes.
baka
>>317553931
>Muh realism
I'm not playing a post apocalyptic game to take in the lush greenery and thriving civilizations, Anon.
YOUR SON IS THE VILLAIN KILL HIM OR NUKE COMMONWEALTH
Do people put much time into most things that they make? I've done a (semi) picturesque run on Tenpines and Outpost Tamoja but nothing too serious. This is my Tenpines.
Also
>no restarting game in ultra for cinematic 30FPS screenshots
>>317553931
If im not mistaken in the FO world nukes weren't about blast size but about leaving behind as much radiation as possible.
>>317553931
Boy golly, it's almost like the entire country didn't get nuked to shit and it had an extensive rebuilding project with the most successful country in the world at that point!
>>317554138
everyone's done that by now
>>317553108
>>317553237
>>317553931
>>317554085
The real issue is the fact that there's a plethora of valuables strewn across the wasteland and in every single building. Guns, ammo, consumeables, crafting items. There's TONS of it EVERYWHERE.
It should be picked completely clean. COMPLETELY. 200 YEARS IS SUCH A LONG TIME.
>>317554085
>>317554163
Ahh but it was REBUILT
nice try boys, but it looks like i win again
>>317554287
there's
no fucking way
food would still be on the table
and yet? bethesda finds a way.
>>317554156
Chernobyl has tons of radiation and it's lush and green.
Radiation isn't anti-life guys come on
>>317554287
Then it wouldn't be a game, it would be real life. Which from the sounds of things, some of you need to experience more of.
>>317554447
>Radiation isn't anti-life
In media it is
>>317554085
210 years ago lewis and clark became the first americans to see the pacific ocean. since then california has become one of the biggest states in the country. in 210 years we invented the automobile, the airplane, went to the moon, and went from black powder muskets to experimental lasers and rail guns. if you're still living in shacks after that long you're literally abbo tier retarded.
>>317554515
you looking to fight me irl senpai?
The building interface is shit.
They should of just put you in birds eye view and let you drag and drop buildings and shit. Having to walk to every area was retarded as fuck. And clipping to walls is done horribily. Half the time it's clipping at the wrong sides or it won't let you clip until you get just the right position.
Also you can't level the land to be the same elevation so half the shit looks retarded when a house is half floating or going right through the terrain.
Fuck, every time I see the incredible shit you guys have made, I get really disheartened on my quest to take over the entirety of the Commonwealth and establish the New Commonwealth Republic.
>>317554447
>Radiation isn't anti-life
This, I love fallout but why do they treat it like this? Sure, the places that got hit by multiple nukes might have no normal plant life, but places like the Commonwealth which evidently only received the one nuke should have some vibrant plant life taking over everything. Nuclear winter wouldn't cause all future plants to be weirdly brown and leafless. A post-apocalyptic setting like in the last of us would be cool for a fallout game, non-radioactive food would still be hard to come by and all the normal rules would apply but the city would be overgrown with nature just like it would in reality.
>>317554515
It's a fine game anon. just a bad bit of story premise for the game they wanted to make.
>>317554287
200 years is indeed a damn long time.
>>317554353
Not really
You're just stating your point again without acknowledging the factors that actually lead to the conclusion
for example: 2 + (1+1) = 4
but without acknowledging that the (1+1) happened, the conclusion wouldn't be 4
without (1+1) it's just 2 + 0 = 4, which is incorrect
mathematically, you're a fucking retard
>>317554789
Just use Wood Foundatiom floors to level the land, they're designed to clip through the ground
>>317554671
Only if we can buy weapons and armor from a virtual store before each round, which we will pay for using virtual money we earned in the last round.
>>317537895
Is their any way to make your settlement not look like shit?
How hard is it to clean up your material and hire a contractor to build your shit?
>>317554895
I don't do math bro, I just bring the heat on the court you feel me
Statistically, I got you dunked homie
How do you unlock the Minuteman flag? I have the 'Merica flag, but that's all
All these people wondering about why everything looks so shitty 200 years after the apocalypse have obviously never been to Africa, the eastern bloc, or Detroit.
>>317555123
you help the minutemen, retard
>>317555004
maybe we'll get a "wasteland clean up" mode some time later, as long as the textures/models making up the trash aren't part of the floor, it should be possible.
>>317555004
i just built everything literally from the floor up. i have hundreds of above ground shack foundations layed out everywhere in my main settlements.
Is there a way to racially purify your settlements? Does it play at all like the Fallout Shelter app with kids and training and stuff or was it completely half-assed like everyone assumed it would be?
>>317555142
what does places run by bix noods have to do with majority white new england?
>>317556826
At least those places can fall back on charity, foreign aid, and the tax money from people who actually contribute to society.
No such thing in the fallout universe.
So has anyone come up with a good use for the projection screen in Starlight? I'm using the diner building as a military fort, but I'm not sure what to do with the screen
>comfy
>shitty metal walls, holes everywhere and dirt everywhere
No
>>317553931
Nuclear winter is not the same as two atomic bombs on one city.
I hate her
>>317554823
It's been like that since the originals anon. Accept that it's basically the aesthetic of fallout with the exception being towns like Vault City
>>317557474
I built a wall all around the compound and used it as the fourth wall for my house and built a town in the middle.
>>317557631
>building a log cabin in the woods full of scavenged and repaired furniture and artifacts of your old life
>not comfy
>>317553073
You're alright.
>>317553073
underrated.
Can I dual wield Power Fists? That's the only mod I need.
>>317552420
>~
>click cow
>moveto player
>>317551381
>>317551381
>Todd fucking lied to me when he said next gen consoles would have mod support
how fucking dumb do you have to be though
>>317540402
I don't like stuff like this, it doesn't look like a proper town or settlements. Doesn't look like a natural fitting part of the Fallout world.
>>317551381
>Todd fucking lied to me when he said next gen consoles would have mod support
No, he didn't. You are just too retarded to comprehend English.
He said at E3 that only Xbone would get mod support, and that would take a while to go into the game, because they have to okay any mod that'll go up on their site.
If you bought a PS4 for that, then you are just stupid as fuck, because it was told from the beggining Xbox only.
>>317558750
Consoles are getting mods later, whenever they release the GECK. Yes it will be very limited, sadly
>Keep seeing these threads and get tricked back into playing 4
>Always quit after 20 minutes after re--realizing that the settlement building is literally worthless since there's no interaction with NPCs, no invasions if it's halfway decently defended and completely soulless and empty
Rate my dog dick.
>>317558792
Fallout 1/2 towns were mostly shacks surrounded by walls.
Megaton was literally a bunch of shacks with ramps stuck together surrounded by walls
>>317558913
And my sanctuary.
>>317558937
The exception being the places lwith literal mud huts or the place with a GECK
anyone have a good list of mods to check out or should i just bumble around the nexus until i find some that aren't shit?
>>317554823
Read the wiki on The Great War. Turned most of the planet into a desert wasteland. Of course, then the problem becomes atmosphere quality given that there aren't many plants left.
So if you use the tcl command you can just build however you'd like without the game giving a shit?
>try to build a town
>Big fucking gaps everywhere in houses because walls connect like shit
>>317558937
>Fallout 1/2 towns were mostly shacks surrounded by walls.
Depends on the town, but most of them were built onto pre-war buildings like: >>317557793
Regardless that's not what I mean. What I mean is, by looking at it you can tell some some random bozo put that town together. The layout and design doesn't make sense, it's just "BIGGER MEANS BETTER" design, crudely thrown together.
It's like when you see a location or housing mod on the Nexus, and they always stand out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the wasteland because of how amateur the design is.
>>317554002
You can find magazines called Picket Fences or something that gives you extra stuff you can build. They're not that great though.
>>317541415
Different anon, but I noticed this... Good catch. I've been doing this anyway with all the junk I find because I can't stand having a workshop full of shit, and since it randomly pulls items from anywhere in the settlement to do mods, you can't place anything without worrying about getting it pulled and sacrificed. Then I noticed Red Rocket had so much free space. Makes sense.
>>317559139
You should really just wait for the GECK.
>>317554002
there are a few mods out that add tons of building stuff, and the magazines that give more options but not many
>>317558937
>Fallout 1/2 towns were mostly shacks surrounded by walls
No they weren't, only the really small ones like Modoc. Even the starting town Klamath has pre-war building still intact, and then you have NCR, Vault City, Broken Hills, etc. that shit on everything in Fallout 3/4
>>317557793
I really hope Bethesda add architecture like this in a patch or DLC.
I like settlement because of the previous built wall, but the edit range and the not scrap-able houses bug me. I want my own house with a bobblehead stand and terminal and all, but there's no fucking room except in the middle of the path. Currently living in the office, but those jew settlers keep breaking in and using my shit.
>>317558891
Did you know that there is also hundreds of hours of questing, exploring, shooting, crafting, and looting in the game as well?
Or maybe you're just a joyless cunt with ADHD.
>>317554895
his (1+1) is having more years to rebuild m8. time heals
>>317559428
Oops, I meant covenant not settlement.
>>317559452
All of those aspects of the game fucking suck though
>130 hours in
>Am just now discovering this place
Looks like I'm going to have to scrap my home at the castle and start over fresh
>>317559338
is it going to be anytime soon? might just get some of the better settlement mods and some things like ammo crafting and stuff like that for now. already starting to lose interest because of how strictly limiting all the mechanics are and i haven't even done most of the main quests yet
>>317557640
Do it, Anon. You piece pf shit. DO IT.
>>317559428
You can manually assign settler to beds; just build as many beds as you have settlers and assign anyone who sleeps in your bed to another one
>>317559139
The prop mod mentioned above is sweet, the vault 111 jumpsuit and armor reskins are nice if you're into that sort of thing. Also the mod that removes essential npc tags for when you want to just murder everyone.
>>317559452
>hundreds of hours
You've seen virtually everything the game has to offer after 50 hours unless you REALLY like "Clear out the Super Mutants/Raiders/Ghouls #495" and the shitty legendary weapon system and loot thing wear every piece of armor has 5 words in its name despite hardly being different from the base form
>>317559582
W-where is this?
>>317559452
>questing
Sure do love going to [Insert random location] to clear out all the raiders!
Remember when Fallout quests used to have multiple solutions? I miss that. When are Obsidian coming back?
>>317557640
She is a institute informer. Kill on SIGHT.she actually is, its on one of their terminals
>>317559553
So then you obviously don't like Bethesda games.
Why are you still forcing yourself to play them?
>>317559719
>not supporting the Institute
Why are you holding mankind back
>>317559736
Maybe he's a Fallout fan, and actually expected it to play like a Fallout game. Or at the very least, an RPG.
>>317559736
Even Skyrim was better than this
Fallout 4 can hardly even be classified as an RPG
>>317559695
That's not true. There are many locations that I've found, and am still finding, that all have their own unique story to tell.
The locations in this game are the best of any fallout or elder scrolls game by far.
>>317542279
>>317559818
It is by definition, an RPG. It isn't a classic RPG but it's definitely an RPG.
>>317559818
>Last two games played nothing like Fallout or an RPG
>BUT THIS IS THE ONE!!
>>317559715
There are multiple solutions to many quests. Non violence, siding with one faction or another, killing entire factions, making two factions go to war while supporting a third faction, attacking immediately, etc.
>>317559937
New Vegas played like a Fallout game and an RPG. Bethesda have no excuse.
>>317559934
No it isn't, it's pretty much Borderlands now.
>bethesda was hiding multiplayer bases for an expensive secret DLC
>all modded bases dont work
i prayed every night for a multiplayer patch, but now. I swear to fucking god, Todd, dont you dare.
>>317559886
Because skeletons and teddy bears placed in comical positions with a few entries in a terminal is much better than actual quests with actual characters
>>317559818
Idiot it's been the same way for 7 years.
Why would he expect that part to change?
>>317559896
>32
How the fuck? None of my settlements ever get more than 22 people
>>317560031
Yes it is. Your hatred for Bethesda doesn't change definitions.
>>317559052
Sanctuary looks really good.
Dog dick looks like shit, should have ignored the natural borders.
>>317559998
>Non violence
That's a fucking lie. The closest you can get to a non-violent solution to questing in Fallout 4 is by not doing the quest. Most of the quests in 4 literally have the one and only quest objective of "Clear out this raider group"
>TFW my settlement is literally vanilla Sanctuary with a few turrets, a few water pumps, a radio recruitment beacon, and a generator.
>>317560062
Define "actual quests".
>>317559998
Please tell me how to solve "Kill these Mutants" non-violently when dialogue can't even be initiated and 90% of the speech checks are just asking for more money
>Don't place any generators
>Don't place any radio towers
>Just surveying the land to build me a house, ME. Not a settlment just my own house where people dont sleep in my god damn bed all the time
>Turn around
>"HEY IM NEW HERE"
Why is there no option to tell them to GTFO?
pls tell me how to console command the mr handys from graygarden to another settlement, i love them but hate graygarden.
>>317560090
>No skills
>No traits
>No reputation
>Quests are just sending you out to kill random mobs
>No alternate solutions
>Dialog choices are as dumbed-down as they can get, and don't matter
>No role-playing
How in the fuck is this an RPG any more.
>>317560118
The radiant quests are like that for sure.
But if you haven't been able to use your charisma to find non violent solutions over and over again you're either a liar, a retard, or a troll.
>>317560118
That's not really true. I just ran into a gas station near Vault 111 that had me negotiate between a trader and drug dealers who wanted their money. I had the option of killing either side for profit or talking the trader into paying up.
I talked the dealers into paying me more, then the same thing from the trader who made a better offer. Then I put my boot to the dealers necks.
>>317560161
that's all it needs to be until more mods come out to make the basebuilding at least decent
>>317560273
>A role-playing game (RPG and sometimes roleplaying game[1][2]) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making or character development.[3] Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.[4]
It's an RPG
>>317560074
read the fukken post he quoted
>>317560195
There are a bunch of opportunities to solve things non violently with a high CHR character.
>>317560237
shoot him.
or make a dump settlement and move everyone there.
>>317555000
>>317560278
The only time you ever get a speech check, it's to ask for more money.
Oh and that reminds me, the only speech checks in this shitty game are Charisma related. In the previous games, you had skill checks for various skills, perks, and SPECIAL. Now it's been dumbed-down so far that they removed all except Charisma.
So now I have a 10 INT scientist character, but I can't say anything smart in dialog. I can't use my character's intelligence to find alternate solutions to quests, since they're literally "Go here and kill this raider group"
>>317560273
>Gear acquisition
>Stat acquisition
>Character skill trumping player skill
It's an RPG, the capacity for you to play pretend has no baring on that
Also
>Wanting New Vegas style non-gameplay that consists of going from point a to point b and passing a skill check
>>317548364
>implying it runs better on a console
I've seen the gameplay footage; you are not fooling anyone sony shill.
>>317559896
>32 People in Hangman's alley
Where the fuck do you have room for that many people. I have 15 and it's crowded as all fuck.
>>317552647
When you strip things down to their base parts and then build shit from scratch, shit tends to look like it was built from fucking scratch.
>>317560359
>A role-playing game is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting
Literally every game ever made confirmed for being an RPG.
Based Wikipedia.
>>317560481
>Wanting alternate solutions to quest
>>317560273
They didn't take skills out, they just changed them.
The practical effects you'd get from building them are still in the game, both through perks and through SPECIAL stats.
>>317560192
Like the fucking side quests in New Vegas.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Flags_of_Our_Foul-Ups
I randomly picked this and it's a good example. It's another NCR quest but has an actual story behind it, has you deal with several characters that all have their own personalities in which you choose who's advice you take. The result ends up affecting the ending, too
Even unmarked, insignifcant quests that have no impact on the story like dragging the Rangers corpse out of a Friend trap so he can have a proper funeral is better than the majority of content in 4
>>317560281
Plus the covenant investigation, the railroad and bos dilemma late game, many of the Institute missions both before and after the main ending, the ability to pay off bounties instead of rescuing kidnapped settlers to mention a few.
I'm 100+ hours in and I still find ways to get more money, save lives, take lives, ruin my reputation with someone, or avoid going anywhere, all using speech checks.
How to I no clip the building pieces?
>>317560517
build up instead of out my man
>>317560669
tcl
>>317560547
>i will ignore the rest of the sentence for the sake of winning an argument in /v/
truly unbeatable logic
>>317560547
Jesus its saddening to see the Gfaqs-tier retards got the final say on this over at the Grand Hall of Internet Canon.
>>317560192
>>317560518
>posting Vault City
>>317560704
I've selected the item and then type tcl in the console but nothing happens, i'm only able to no clip myself. Am I doing something wrong?
>>317560268
someone tell me this its literally the only way to make settlements good
fuck humans, robots 4 life
>>317560476
100% not true.
There are intelligence checks, and many charisma checks also rely on luck skill.
Also, if all of your quests are "go here and kill that" and you never have a chance to take a different route, you're a lying to yourself.
>you can build stuff
>it's all made of garbage
Holy shit humanity, get your shit together already. How hard can it be to chop up some trees and build something new?
>>317560669
>tcl
>grab the pieces of the building you want to lose collision
>place down your new piece
>>317560760
just watch this video anon you can't fuck up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5YsvxxKhk
