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HasMetal Gearconditioned anyone else to fucking abhor these things? Like, I have a serious ethical problem with these things just being around, and I tried picking one up but immediately had to drop it. I don't care how good the fatman is.
Look what these fucking things did to the world, why would I use one?
>>317518360
>I tried picking one up but immediately had to drop it
Why? So some super mutant can use it? You should have took that shit back to vault 111 and locked it up in there so it was buried. At least there you know that shit is safe. Your inactivity in handling the mininukes is just as bad as the people that use the fat man.
Way to be an enabler, you shitmop.
>Not hoarding all nuclear-related objects and storing them out of everyone elses reach
>>317518360
I sell them cause I love money. Also whatever makes less super mutants run at me holding them jesus christ fucking help me.
I only ever used the Fat Man against Super Mutant Overlords in 3 because they are annoying as fuck damage sponges that otherwise take 5 minute constant streams of bullets to take down MEANWHILE your wasting your supply of Stimpaks just so you don't die because FOR SOME REASON when they wield Lazer Rifles it does a fuckton more damage then you will ever do wielding it.
Fuck, even the Behemoths are easier to take down because they're dumb as fuck. Yes I'm mad, and yes the Overlords still piss me off.
>>317518969
and thats how the Brotherhood of Nukes started
But this is a world where radiation is magical and can make you basically immiortal
>>317518360
It's funny, because in Fallout 1, even the fucking terrifying hive mind abomination Master refused to use nukes as a weapon for MORAL reasons.
"This is our Master's weapon of last resort. If we find an enemy we cannot defeat in battle, then we will destroy them with this. But I doubt this will ever happen. Even our Master does not want to unleash the dreaded power of the atom again!"
And then by Fallout 3 you go around nuking everything with mini-nukes and the megaton bomb while HACKIN AND WHACKIN AND SMACKIN is playing in the fucking background
>>317518360
But Metal Gear doesn't really even show the impacts of the Nuclear arsenal, the furthest it ever got was deterrence. I mean, they used a bloody Davy Crockett in MGS3 and its effects are barely shown anywhere in the game.
>>317519717
Well, yeah. Bethesda fundamentally misunderstood the tone of the games.
>implying the US and China wouldn't have destroyed the world anyway with a long drawn out conventional war
>tfw I killed Kellog with a mini nuke
>>317518360
Because Bethesda had to go full on lol whacky and introduce fucking nuclear catapults.
Not even some type of Davey Crockett knock-off or anything, a fucking shoulder fired catapult. For nuclear weapons.
Not to mention Bethesda was under the impression that the Great War was fought with fucking WW2 style fatman/littleboy type bombs instead of goddamn nuclear ICBMs. Because lol whacky 50s setting.
>>317518360
I hope you don't plan to side with the BoS then or you're going to have a heart attack.
>>317520349
Oh and I almost forgot about the massive fucking retarded mecha that hand tosses an unlimited number of nuclear footballs because why the fuck not lol whacky 50s amirite
>>317520003
If they had waited just a bit longer, it's quite possible fusion reactors could have become efficient enough to be mainstream and therefore eliminate the issue the war was being fought over
That being said, I doubt conventional warfare would have the same impact on the planet as Fallout's ridiculous amount of ICBM neutron bombs
>>317520471
If we're going down this route with the amount of shit that got nuked there should be a lot less buildings standing and random foot items/whatnot sitting around unharmed.
>>317518360
Are you retarded?
>>317520471
When I sided with the brotherhood I actually got a little perturbed at the fact that Liberty Prime was literally just pulling an infinite amount of nukes from his back that were the size of a smart-car, and whipping them at the ground in front of us. Like holy shit what the fuck is going on who thought a shitty escort mission was what I wanted to finish this bullshit story arc with the worst faction in any game. Christ
>>317518360
I can't believe how weak the fatman is in this game. It does maybe half health to a lot of enemies and more like 1/5 to murlocks.
>>317521008
>murlock
We ain't in WoW here, boy.
>>317518360
>Look what these fucking things did to the world
Peace?
>>317521213
Yeah the horrible giant mutant scorpions roaming around sure do put my mind at ease.
>>317518360
No, I abhor them because the first one I shot in Fallout 3 arched and hit an overhead beam right in front of me and I killed myself. Haven't touched one since.
>>317519465
Oh... oh my god.
>>317521213
I think he's referring to the Fallout world, anon.
I know it's hard for you to read, sometimes, but it's okay.
>>317520202me too.
>>317521008
Stop playing it like an FPS and get the proper perks if you want the Fatman to kill everything in sight.
>>317521450
Considering he brought up metal gear it was obvious the talked about the meta of bombs.
Why was the bomb in Megaton a fatman style bomb? And why does it have a logo on it that looks sorta like the Vault-tec logo?
Did Beth forget that ICBMs were used in the Great War? And that the Great War didn't happen in the goddamn 50s?
Did they seriously try and have a fucking Chinese bomber cross the entire continental US to manually deliver a fucking antique nuclear weapon that is over 100 years outdated by that point? And the bomb doesn't even explode but still produces a fucking massive crater?
Fallout 3 and 4 are fantasy universes with magic replaced by nuclear power
>>317521753
Nah dude I've been alive 100 years from radiation poisoning it's real.
Why don't the Children of Atom from rad poisoning?
>>317522196
They're taking that radaway on the side. Bunch of frauds.
>>317521753
Even Bethesda's fantasy universes seem excessively magic ridden
>>317522196
I dunno, why don't they from rad poisoning? My dad from rad poisoning years ago, it was very. Now my family is.
>>317520349
I don't think a nuke launcher is out of place in the Fallout universe, or Liberty Prime for the matter. The game is very clearly a parody of 1950s jingoism and that stuff fits perfectly. The realism argument goes out of the window when you have shit like radiation turning people into zombies.
What is out of place however is how despite the destruction nukes caused no one seems to have a problem with using them. The BoS in Fallout 4 sit and rant about how they need to destroy synths because of the harm they can cause humanity but they have no problem nuking the shit out of Boston with an arsenal of nuclear warheads and a giant robot? The same BoS who hate wastelanders because they don't want irradiated DNA in their ranks?
Bethesda are just shitty writers. There's no reason in a post-apocalyptic world all the organised factions like the BoS and the Enclave would be using weapons of mass destruction. Even in the previous games the most evil factions had more sound motives. The Master's Army wanted to evolve everyone into super mutants so humanity could thrive on an irradiated world, while Caesar's Legion just wanted Hoover Dam to power their infrastructure. The only faction that should reasonably want to use shit like nukes are raiders or dumbfuck tribals.
you fucking autistic or something
weird lad
>Walkin down the street minding my own business
>Hear *PSSHHHWWWEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW*
>Die to mini nuke before I know what's even shooting it
>>317520202
>Killing Shawn in his hospital bed with a mini nuke from 2 feet away
>>317519269
If you shoot their arm it explodes on the first hit. blow them up immediately and you kill most of them
>>317522731
That's if you're lucky enough to have a nice open space and not have terrifying beeping run at you from around a corner.
>>317522497
Libery prime doesn't fit into fallout 3, let alone fallout, fallout 2, or new Vegas.
It's Optimus Prime throwing nuke footballs and shitting le funny randums ex dee memes.
>>317522497
>I don't think a nuke launcher is out of place in the Fallout universe, or Liberty Prime for the matter.
Confirmed for first fallout was fallout 3.
>>317522634
>Turn corner
>Raider with a fat man 2 feet away
>Surely he's not that retarded
>Oh, he is.
>>317522634
>>317523048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg9r7lvc4fs
It's been 200+ years. How have the nukes not become decayed and useless?
>>317522910
And how exactly is that any less ridiculous than nearly everything else in Fallout? They can mass produce robots and laser cannons but suddenly a giant robot is pushing the limit?
>>317523048
>Minuteman mission where you have to take the base and put up a settle radio beacon
>sneak up into the small wood house, there's a guy named Boomer in raider power armor
>with a fat man
>shoots it inside tiny house with the rest of his buddies
Relevant.
>>317523108
This literally just happened to me, same location and everything. Now I'm shitposting on /v/ instead of playing.
This is literally one of the most autistic things I've ever read on this board. Which says A LOT.
>>317521008
>murlocks
>>317523192
I passed by there when I was on my way to the haunted house place, whatever it is.
It didn't last long.
>>317523372
I just played ring around the rosie around a big rock until he exhausted his mini nukes. Can't say I didn't die more than once trying though.
>>317519465
Reminds of a Fist of the North Star OVA I watched once. Kenshiro meets a bunch of monks that are apparently guarding some great power that no one knows what is because they kill everyone that leaves, and it turns out to be a storage for nuclear weapons.
>>317523171
A giant communist hating robot held under the Pentagon fits into deus ex, not fallout.
Contrast the Master to liberty prime. One of these were obviously made for children raised on memes, and created by people who didn't understand the franchise they'd bought.
Can you guess which?
Speaking of the Master, he wouldn't ever appear in a Falloutscrolls game. He's too sophisticated and mature for Bethesda's target audience.
>>317520471
JOHN MADDEN
>>317523372
>Exploring
>See this raider controlled radio tower
>Dogmeat runs in
>Mushroom cloud
>This guy comes out with crippled arms
I feel sort of cheated out of a "boss fight" now
>>317518360
packratting and never using anything great unless its a boss fight conditioned me never to use them. then the game ends and I have 50.
>>317518360
The world is free from humanity propelling it into an ice age. There's still life everywhere you look, just not nearly as many humans. I don't see the problem?
>>317519717
>>317519941
Meanwhile you can nuke 2 entire nations in New Vegas.
What now obsididrones?
>>317523554
>>317523214
Funny thing is that if oyu post it somewhere alike Reddit, the cult of Bethesda would probably say "Didn't read, probably troll stuff xD"
>>317523372
>enemies in power armor have a lower chance to hit in VATS
Why?
>>317523554
>He used to be out adventuring until he took a robot to the knee xD
>>317521006
you're not escorting liberty prime, liberty prime is escorting you
>>317523660
This. People shit on Bethesda and forget Lonesome Road.
>>317523749
The weak points are harder to hit or some shit
I've sold both fat mans I've found so far. I would much rather charge someone with big jim and smack their shit.
>>317523660
And you get a suitably fallout narration if you actually launch the nukes. The player character voices disbelief about nuclear missiles.
The NPC who has them calls them 'America's voice.' He had to 'speak to history' to even be convinced that they existed.
It's not a casual nuke catapult that any random raider can pull out their ass.
>fags on /v/ pretending to be cultural expects on the subtle nuances of '50s america
*tips crumpled fedora*
>>317521658
>power armor left rusting in the middile of the street and in containers for 200 years
>city farthest away from nuke is more fucked up than one that was closer
they really don't care about logic anon
>>317523958
Good thing that Fallout doesn't take place in the 50s then hombre :^)
Can mini nukes be harvested for nuclear mats in FO4?
>>317523660
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ulysses'_logs
The build-up to potentially nuking people in new Vegas.
It's not comparable to fat man launchers.
>>317523958
>fags on /v/ pretending to be cultural experts on the subtle nuances of alternate timeline 2070's america
>>317520202
This guy knows whats up.
>>317524145
AFAIK only the pre-seperated one in the same basement as the useless "Guide to Diamond City"
>>317523630
>boss fight
>only attack is nuking the shit out of you
>>317518360
>tfw the gun you've been slowly building is more powerful than a small nuclear blast
>>317523749
It seems like the bulkier an enemy is, the lower the chance
>Death Claw right in front of me
>MFW 48% chance to shoot it's stomach
>>317524295
Damn, that's where I got the idea.
>>317519109
Aw shit time to play as a paranoid hoarder
>>317524404
I just found this shit, kekd hard
>>317520623
Petroleum has plenty of uses other than fuel. China wouldn't just let the USA control the only supply left on Earth.
>>317524474
I have been playing every 3d fallout like that.
Oh hey guys what's going on in this thread.
>>317520202
>Not making it personal
>>317524364
Does the damage stat shown take the additional projectile into account? I'm sure my gauss rifle is fully upgraded, but the damage is sitting at around 380-odd.
>>317524748
What hell, did you get extremely drunk before taking him down?
>>317518360
Did you seriously get your view of the fission used as a weapon from a fucking video game? Like the lasting effects on the environment, or people in Japan didn't inform that opnion, or maybe any knowledge of the manhatten project, rather some of the shittiest fanfic tier game dialogue? You are a terrible person.
>>317522402
I accidentally the whole rad poisoning
>>317524848
Yeah I believe so, also I have 5 points into rifles, so there's that too. Once I grab Science 3 I should be able to boost it to 608.
Mirelurk Queen 1-shots
Is there any good way to make lots of money?
So far I have found that selling excess purified water makes a pretty penny but it's not that much a cap and the shops have not generated any revenue for me
>>317525126
player.additem 000000f 999999
>>317525126
Purified water farms, mutfruit farms, and really just making sure you have maximized bartering perks.
I usually pick up expensive items on bodies and sell them. Usually sitting at around 20,000 caps
>>317525126
pre-war money is worth a lot and is abundant. just make sure you're not turning it into cloth. sell drugs too
>>317523660
Except in New Vegas it has a massive impact on characters and is the main point to the Lonesome Road story that changes if you fire them or not.
In Fallout 3 your dad simply says he is disappointed in you for nuking a fucking town.
>>317525234
What button on the controller is that??
>>317522634
>I was walking alone minding my business
>When nuke hit me in the eye
>FLASH BANG ALAKAZAM
>>317518360
Do you even want to set the world on fire, liberal scum?
>>317525410
The "build a gaming computer" button.
Don't do that additem faggotry though.
>>317525279
>mutfruit farms
I think I have those but most of my food at my main base is gourds
>>317525476
I just want to start a flame in your heart, anon.
>>317519802
>barley shown anywhere in the game
Please read the story. ;_ ;
This explosion was the first thing that went wrong in the series
>>317525234
Proer tip, you can just write f if you want
>>317523554
the master recreated faithfully with modern graphics would be fucking horrifying
>>317525545
>tfw when I wasn't paying attention and dumped 3 levels into automatic weapons instead of pistols
>Fixed mistakes with console commands instead of having to restart the whole game or replay 8 missions
>thank you mr race
>>317523554
>One of these were obviously made for children raised on memes
What has the fucking world come to.
>>317523554
>A giant communist hating robot held under the Pentagon fits into deus ex, not fallout.
>Fits in Deus Ex
>>317523130
>It's been 200+ years. How have the computers not all broken down and become useless
>>317525591
Have you lost all ambition and worldly acclaim?
>>317519717
And in fallout 4 you see super mutants ALLAHU ACKBARing with them.
>>317522196
Virgil says they're immune to it, somehow.
>>317518360
Metal Gear games all carry such strong anti-war messages.
I especially love the Anti hero-worship themes the games have.
>>317518360
One problem.
Mini nukes weren't used to destroy the world in fallout.
MK-28 nukes were. Mini nukes were developed for use in anchorage.
>>317518360
Because there are no morals in the wasteland
>>317523554
Jesus christ he looks like every single shit in his life was just thrown all over the walls.
>>317524748
I died enough in that fight I literally popped every drug in my inventory and hit Q mid dialogue and just vats' his head off with a combat shotty.
Not very exciting but it got the job done.
>>317526407
I hated nukes even before playing MG, the trought of having something that can erase life to molecular level, in the hands of people who could just decide to drop one and end everything, it fucking terrifies me.
>fallout 1 and 2
There is only 1 nuke, nukes are seen to be a mysterious, powerful force
>fallout 3
Nukes everywhere, you can even get a gun that fires 8 nukes at once
>new vegas
Mini nukes exist, but are limited supply and never respawn.
>fallout 4
Haven't played
>>317526907
Mini nukes randomly available like any other weapon lying around.
Vendors sell ammo for it like nothing.
>>317526907
fallout 4 is worse
I have a fat man that fires 2 projectiles, upgraded to MIRV (which is an incorrect use of the acronym for all you fallout 3 faggots) so one (of the 30+ I've found laying around the game) splits into 8 mid air. They don't care about fallout. They haven't since they started development on 3.
i bet you didn't even nuke the ncr and legion
>>317526681
The tunnel leading to him is covered with the remains of all his failed experiments, and walking towards him actually hurts your stats, then drains your HP.
You need to wear a special piece of gear, or be the most physical combat god in the game, to even get to him.
>>317524138
Cute, the reddit user doesn't know that fallout is meant to be the 50's that never ended.
>>317525707
JOIN.
DIE!
JOIN.
DIE!
>>317527202
dude WHAT, that sounds sick? it splits up into 8 mid air WHat?
>>317527346
I wonder why psychic stuff was never really brought up again. The only other psionic thing that I know of is that one kid in New Vegas with that weird headpiece thing.
>>317518360
It's a video game, the fuck are you on about?
>>317527542
>sentient AI roams around
>Power armor is a thing
>Energy weapons found commonplace
The analogic aspect of 50s technologies have survived, that's what happened, time didn't magically froze in the 1950s.
>>317527674
You're what's wrong with fallout.
>>317527595
>TFW that female voice gave me an erection
>regular enemies deal so little damage i can basically face tank everything
>a raider comes out of nowhere with a missile launcher or a fatman and one shots me
i hate explosives
>>317527695
There were the guys in the Mariposa military base in Fallout 1 that were Psykers (the purple robed dudes), as well as the mutant that summons deathclaws in Mariposa in Fallout 2. And I guess the old lady at the start of Fallout 4 is a Psyker too.
>>317527941
>all power armor raiders uses a fucking fat man
goddamnit.
>>317527202
Does one of the mini-mini nukes do as much as a regular mini nuke? If I remember correctly putting on the MIRV mod drops the unupgraded damage of a fat man to 18 for me.
>>317527941
>carefully sneak up on raider/supermutant hideout
>wild dogs/molerats/fuck else out of nowhere
Fucking always
Also the only raider with a fatman that I met was on top of that church in quincy and he fell down like a retard trying to fight a vertibird
Thank fuck for bethesda AI
>tfw no one has the item code for the Airship Captain's hat
>tfw just want that bitching hat without having to go postal
>>317527542
Yes I'm sure we had laser weapons in the 50s.
Next you will tell me we had H&K CAWS and Pancor Jackhammers in the 50s too. After all, time stopped in the 50s even though Fallout 2 explicitly states that these weapons were made in the 1980s.
Fuck off.
>>317528052
The old lady isn't a psyker, Bethesda doesn't even know about psykers, they're just fucking bad at writing.
>>317527941
Fucking this
>Quick save
>Right as I do an enemy shoots a missile at me
>I instantly die
>Have to reload, spam tab, take every drug I have and sprint and jump away just to live with like 5 HP and with all broken limbs
Shit is cancer. Worse is when you wear power armor and a missile/fat man instantly destroys most of the pieces.
While I don't want to advocate making the game easier than it already is, I think explosive damage needs to be toned down. At the same time, up the damage of all weapons, so that enemy humanoids always die in 1-3 headshots based upon weapon, and you die in a few shots too.
>>317528274
>save
>kill him
>loot hat
>drop hat on ground
>console and click on the hat
>write down code
>player.additem code
>>317528372
~tgm
fucking retard
>>317528372
I hate to be stupid, but:
if you play on any difficulty harder than normal, you are increasing the damage enemies do artificially with a flat bonus and reducing your own damage by the same flat bonus.
>>317528442
I play on xbone
>Fighting normal raiders
>Their weapons do shit for damage, don't hurt at all
>Suddenly a higher level raider appears
>His pipe pistol 2 shots me
>It's just a pipe pistol with a bayonet on it.
>>317528372
Simply remove missle launchers and the Fat Man. Or leave the fat man and put 3 mini nukes in the game.
This isn't fucking borderlands. It's also not fucking fallout. Wasteland 2 is the best we're gonna get.
>>317528532
Then why the fuck do you want the item code since you can't even access the console?
You can't make anymore, so just use all the ones that are left and there.
>>317520202
>Walk into room with Nick
>Kellog comes out with his hands up wanting to talk
>Immediately begin blasting him in the face
Fallout's story is atrocious but at least you can interact with NPCs the way you want to, so fucking satisfying to just pump his stupid face full of lead rather than listen to his sob story and how you should forgive him
>>317528673
>play on console
>you can't access the console
am I being rused?
>>317528771
No you're just stupid.
>population of main base spikes from 11 to 19
holy crap
>>317522497
>I don't think a nuke launcher is out of place in the Fallout universe
Debatable. I can see a handheld nuclear device thanks to Fallout's general obsession with nukes prewar. I can see some american general going "OKAY, SO WHAT WE NEED ARE SMALL NUKES THAT CAN DESTROY REGIMENTS AND BUNKERS, BUT NOT OUR GUYS. EGGHEADS, GET ON IT"
>Or Liberty Prime
No, not even close. Not even a little. It maks no sense at all. Giant Robot's are not a 50's thing. That is more of an 80's or 90's idea of having a giant robot fight wars for you. Robots in the 50's are like Mr Handy's, where we thought robots would eventually do everything for us.
And even if you take it out of what generally fits in Fallout, Liberty Prime is so fucking stupid. The idea alone pisses me off, it sounds like some fan-fiction bullshit.
"SO THERE WILL BE A GIANT ROBOT UNDER THE PENTAGON AND HE HATES COMMUNISTS. WHAT IS THE POINT OF A GIANT ROBOT IN A WORLD DOMINATED BY NUCLEAR BOMBS? WHO CARES! HE HATES COMMUNISTS!"
>>317526907
Fallout 4 is OVERLY saturated with them. I have found 18 fatmans so far, and over 45 mini-nukes.
>>317528907
is this some sort of meta trolling?
I wish they were more powerful
I mean a mini nuke should be more than just a big explosion. You're destroying stuff at the cellular level, I'm expecting nuclear weapons to be both rarer and much, much more deadly.
Crysis did the nukes right imo, all you need is add a fuckton of radiation so if you were to pass by the area where you used the nuke youd die after a few seconds.
Also nukes are the main reason why WW3 didnt break out and probably won't.
>>317528994
literally Korra tier, aparently
>>317522196
high endurance
>>317525643
yeah I'm surprised that few people know you can completely miss out the zeroes
>>317524926
And that's supposed to be a bad thing?
Since then OP learned something. Sure, maybe that shows how OP is a faggot who doesn't read much, and maybe being an active participant in a video game makes it resonates more with that turbo faggot.
But in the end of the story, OP learn something new and the video game actually manage to deliver its story to its audience. No matter how you look at it, that is a good thing.
Learning anything from anywhere doesn't make anyone a terrible person.
>>317523958
>over 250 years in the future
>50s america
>People think Fatman launchers make no sense
Seriously? The game is set in the 50's. In the 50's, the world is obsessed with nukes. They put nuclear material IN FUCKING FACIAL CREAMS IN REAL LIFE. The alarm clocks have nuclear material in them. There are sodas named after nukes. Cars were nuclear powered. There is plenty of precedence to developing small nukes for use by infantry.
That doesn't mean that they should be as prevalent as they are, of course. The Fatman should be extremely rare, only used by a few enemies, and the ammo should be even rarer. Like coming across 10-12 in a whole play through.
Instead you find tons of fatmen and like 100 nukes.
>>317529521
>The game is set in the 50's.
No
>that feel when you hear a mininuke go off in the distance and dat flash goes off, and you just aren't sure if it's a mininuke or if this time the entire commonwealth is going to be reduced to smoldering ash
>>317529521
>The game is set in the 50's
Stopped reading there
>>317528994
>he's a portable nuke launcher
>his nuke caches is literally just open on his back
>a stray bullet could set it off
>he's being hit with missiles and lasers
Liberty Prime is fucking awful. It makes no sense, no matter how you look at it. It would be more efficient to coat their vertibirds in whatever magical alloy allows Prime to shrug off hits like he does
>>317529521
The creation and storage of the mininukes were in the commonwealth, that's why there are so many of them
>>317529585
>>317529623
A 50's version of the future. You knew exactly what I meant.
The game is literally 'What if the cold war never ended and America was like it was post ww2 forever'
>>317529118
>playing on console
Console: Xbone PS4
>can't access the console
developer tool accesed with the ~ key used to enter text commands for debugging/testing
See not trolling, you're just really stupid.
>>317529521
>set in the 50's
No it's not. The game makes 50's science fiction into reality, in the future
>>317528771
The in-game console on PC is something different than playing on a console. You have to hit I believe the ~ key to open up the dialogue box thing to input you commands, which is impossible on Xbone or PS4, but could possibly be enabled later in the future with the help of mods.
>>317529585
>>317529623
>Being retarded
It's like the 50's imagined the future. Have you even played fallout before?
can you shoot them if they're coming at you in vats?
Are there any like, hard places in the game? I've been mostly doing walky-talky quests recently and I feel like just clearing out some high-level, legendary infested dungeon
>>317520202
>TFW kellog survived a mini-nuke
>>317526464
>were
>>317529643
See this is what is so hilarious to me. None of you have any fleeting concept of how a fission bomb works. You don't "set off a bomb" by bouncing it off of something.
You know the two dropped on Japan never touched the ground right? Jesus what do schools even do?
It's a video game. Calm down there.
>>317529778
>>317529883
>being retarded
>calling other people retarded
I saw a Judge Dredd comic and a girl wearing leg warmers the other day, the current year is now 1984.
>>317529905
The Glowing Sea is the most difficult area in the game, and it's still a cake walk.
There are no super hard, special places like the Quarry or Deathclaw breeding grounds in New Vegas.
Just bullshit.
>>317524364
Where do you get that?
>>317518360
>legendary fat man weapon
>shoots 2 projectiles at once
>add the experimental mirv mod that splits each nuke into 6 nukes
>2 projectiles at once still applies
>mfw i shoot 12 nukes for every shot fired
>>317523554
>fits into deus ex but not fallout
Did we play the same game?
>>317530063
I accidentally typed 'in the 50s' instead of 'in a future version of the 50s'
My point still stands, arguing over semantics is pointless.
>>317529778
Except no. Even in FO1 and FO2 military technology progressed and advanced similarly to ours. Automatic shotguns developed in the 80s are explicitly mentioned and present.
I'll give you a hint: the Great War nukes weren't used in bombers like in WW2. They were on nuclear ICBMs. There is a good reason the Great War only lasted a few hours.
The major technological divergence in the Fallout universe was that they never developed microchips and other miniaturization technologies. That is why the Platinum Chip in New Vegas was such a huge deal; it was the beginning of microchip technology and miniaturization brought forth by House.
>>317530216
I'm just fucking with you anywayfaggot
>>317528372
>At the same time, up the damage of all weapons, so that enemy humanoids always die in 1-3 headshots based upon weapon, and you die in a few shots too.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/333/?
>>317530085
>The Glowing Sea is the most difficult area in the game, and it's still a cake walk.
That's probably because the fauna are easy as shit to kill.
I'm more looking for shooty dudes. Are there any Gunner strongholds or anything?
>>317520202
>Was low on ammo and stims from exploring and didn't think Kellog would be too tough
>Nick's AI was not cooperating at all
>Kept getting killed over and over, either because I would get hung up on the geometry or he would throw a grenade and I could not get out of the way fast enough because of said geometry.
>Got him down to half health but ran out of good ammo.
>Tried a good 5-6 more times.
>Fuck it.
>Pulls out fatman and oneshot him.
Fuck Kellog.
>>317528994
That, and man portable nuclear launchers are a real thing deployed (but obviously never used) in the 50s. It doesn't seem so silly that if the 50s mindset remained into the future that a handheld version would be looked into at some point.
A giant robot is a bit of a much bigger leap, seems doable but the way it was done in liberty prime is just truly memetastic and retarded.
I just ran into a guy named Art and his synth, I passed a speech check and the dude kneeling said he was a synth. What happens if I kill the real guy and let the synth go?
>>317530264
The major difference was a nuclear renaissance that superseded oil as humanities primary energy source, hence its prevalence in everyday culture. Which adds another layer of assfucking retardedness to fallout "gas generators the game" 4.
>tfw I don't even consider myself a "fallout fan" and I know more about it than bethesda because I played 1 and 2 when I was younger
>>317530264
The idea for nuclear ICMBs was around before WW2 ended. I remember there was some talk of trying to strap nuclear bombs to the V2 rockets Germany was using. Those being developed are not out of the question.
And it's less about what technology is present, but instead how it is applied. They have advanced robotics that are used to make what are essentially robotic maids and butlers, because that was an idea of the 50's, robots taking care of everything. Nuclear power is used in cars and everything else (though they also had the justification of fuel running out), because Nuclear power was seen as the future in the 50's.
The culture as well is incredibly similar to 50's america. The language used, the red scare, the patriotism. It's definitely 50's america, in the future.
Obviously, as human beings, we're not going to be able to know what would happen if America kept on it's path in the 50's, but they've tried to emulate some of it.
>>317530710
Literally no difference
>>317528994
>it doesn't make sense this would be in the 50s
It's a good thing the bombs fell over a hundred years after the 50s ended then.
How do you increase energy weapon damage? I've got like 900 energy cells because my combat rifle beats the shit out of any laser weapons.
>>317530719
>Which adds another layer of assfucking retardedness to fallout "gas generators the game" 4.
Not to mention the red gas cans that are scattered all over the place.
>>317530350
I had a bit of a struggle, I was some way below level 20 though.
Ghouls are nothing but the vast amount of scorpions and deathclaws hit me pretty hard.
>>317530802
Thanks Bethesda.
>>317523554
>tfw no total conversion for New Vegas featuring a properly animated Master
I'd pay real cashmoneys for that, if only to see all the goop pulsating and eyes blinking
>>317530637
They weren't man portable, and it wasn't some retarded catapult that shot it 20 yards. A tactical nuke is still going to have a massive blast radius, the mini nukes in 3/4 are smaller than a 250 conventional bomb, which were commonly dropped from fighters during WW2.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Davey Crocket system, which wasn't somethign one guy would carry around, and he didn't launch it from his shoulder. It was a self propelled unguided rocket delivery system. Don't try to compare things to reality if you don't want to actually do it, or if you're an idiot and lack the knowledge.
>>317518360
I never use the Fatman, I just picked them up and break them for parts and store the nukes. Better in my heavily guarded compound that in the hands of raiders
>>317530898
Speaking of ghouls, why are there so many feral ghouls in FO4? It feels more like a fucking zombie apocalypse.
>>317530851
I am pretty sure Energy weapons are now just classified under whatever they are.
Laser pistols are considered handguns
Laser rifles are considered rifles
Gattling Laser is considered a heavy weapon.
It's bullshit and stupid. They should have replaced that radiation damage perk in Intelligence with an energy weapon one. Why fucking combine Energy weapons into traditional firearms?
>>317530350
yeah there's a prison that the Gunners took over, if you just follow the railway south you'll see it
>>317530710
i just broke their legs and took off
>Playing a videogame where you murder a ton of shit
>But I have have an ethical problem with this one weapon because it's too murdery
>Also the opinion comes from playing Metal fucking Gear, when the horrors of war are told better in many other places
The fuck
>>317530891
>>317530719
Gas was still a thing, it was just the cheap alternative to clean burning...fissile materials.
Note that line in the "he's a man" song which goes "has a car that runs out of gas"
Gas was for poor people in the fallout world pre-war.
If everyone could have a nuclear car and nuclear generator then the resource wars wouldn't have happened.
Pay attention to the lore and whats going on around you people.
(Ba dump ba da)
ANYTHING GOOOOOEEEESSSS
>>317531053
>supermutants everywhere for no reason
>mirelurks in tiny ponds next to settlements that should have cleared them out
>ghouls running around nowhere near sources of rads
>gunner checkpoints in the wilderness nowhere near useful targets
At least robots are usually placed in believable positions.
>>317518360
Where in real life are you located for there to be nukes sitting around?
Or, OP, are you too autistic to remember that youre playing a fucking videogame.
>>317519717
>and the megaton bomb while HACKIN AND WHACKIN AND SMACKIN is playing in the fucking background
>>317531053
that's probably exactly why. Zombies are hip, don't you know?
They're tragically boring enemies in every game, especially this one. I got a pistol that uses 50% AP, so I just switch to that and VATS them to death.
The same reason there are fucktons of supermutants.
The same reason there are about 20 time more raiders than there are actual settlements and normal people.
Because Bethesda.
>>317531070
Wait what? Is there not a "guns" perk anymore, Just shit for long guns and pistols?
>>317530637
Real life fatman equivalents aren't nuclear catapults with a 50 meter range.
Bethesda didn't know what they were fucking doing, and it shows.
>>317531070
>Bullshit and stupid
>Bethesda
Pick two
My experience with mini nukes:
>pick up Fat Man and a couple mini nukes
>give to MacCready to hold for me since I'm not going to be using it unless something big shows up (which didn't ever happen in my playthrough)
>continue on with my day after handing over the launcher and mini nukes
>a couple rooms into the building later, in combat
>die instantly, no fucking reason that I can discern
>for some reason MacCready decided to equip and fire the fucking thing directly into the small of my back
I abhor them, but only because companion "AI" in Fallout 4 is basically nonexistent.
>>317531216
Fallout 1 explicitly says fossil fuels began to deplete, exacerbating tensions in 2050, so yes gas was a thing.
>>317531384
What is wrong with the idea of a fatman?
I don't understand, what are your actual concerns?
>>317529778
>A 50's version of the future.
Literally no. The only difference was that cilicon board technology was never invented so all the technology still uses vacuum tubes and shit. However, they had a far greater understanding of nuclear science so technology still progressed, just differently.
It's not the 50s but future, electronics just didn't advance as much since the 50s and the technology was the only thing that survived the two centuries.
>>317531237
best song
>>317531367
There are perks for semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic pistols, automatic weapons, and heavy weapons.
>>317531470
>give hancock my stealthboys to hold onto
>he uses two while wearing power armour and fighting ghouls
>>317531367
Perk for fully auto weapons, perk for all the other rifles, perk for heavy guns, perk for pistols
Not sure if energy weapons use their seperate perk because I haven't been using them much
>>317525707
>implying the puppet doesn't make it fucking horrifying
>>317531545
>Its not 50s, but the future
Yes it fucking is. Of course they're technologically advanced, it was fucking 120 years since the 50's.
Culturally the game is still VERY, VERY 50's.
>>317531041
Fair enough, I guess I used a pretty loose definition. When I said "man portable" I meant something like a vickers gun, something that could be deployed and used by a team of dudes in the field, not some big ass towed thing or launched from a fixed structure.
It just doesnt seem a stretch from that, if the mindset is the same, to turn it into a nuclear PIAT 100 years down the line
>>317531487
You can't have a fission reaction that results in a tiny, contained detonation. It's impossible.
>>317531559
>>317531579
Jesus, I was actually gonna pick this game up too. That sounds like garbage.
>>317518360
>serious ethical problem
>with things in a video game
>>317531481
Not to mention people seem to forget the final battle in fallout 2 was on a fucking oil rig.
>huge cool looking asylum
>expect spooky atmospheric exploring
>the related quest is rushing through it fighting raiders
Why are Bethesda so completely incompetent and awful?
>>317531686
That is your concern? That it makes no sense?
What about the fucking idea that the world was devastated by nuclear weapons, and that only ~150 years after that humanity was able to start to rebuild? Or nukes turning people into zombies that are immortal? Or bottlecaps being used as currency? Or power armor? Or water chips? Or GECKOs? Or half the other shit in the game?
99% of the shit in Fallout is impossible. The whole premise is impossible to begin with.
>>317518360
despite all the fantastical representations of nuclear apocalypse, nukes are scary when you read about them, even the low yield ones.
>>317518360
Just wait until you get this beauty.
Wildlife & mutants laugh at it.
But it melts humans into their constituent parts with incredible ease.
What could be more proper in a nuclear wasteland than using radiation as a chillingly lethal way to kill your fellow man?
>>317531487
>They're just hanging around the wasteland for any dumbass to find 210 years after the nukes fell, sometimes not even in military locations.
>They exist, and people just go around using them for no reason.
>>317519370
Overlords use tri-beam laser rifles, but I get what you're saying. I recall using the terrible shotgun a lot, and even with a sneak attack, point blank, pointed in the general direction of the head, I don't think it ever took off more than half their health. It's funny you mention behemoths though because I think by max level overlords end up with more health than behemoths.
>>317529517
2050's you mongloid
>>317531216
How the hell was gas for poor people pre-war? It was ridiculously expensive because the world was running out of petroleum.
>>317518635
>arthas was a neckbeard
wasn't he megachad?
>>317531487
The fallout universe fears nukes, and for good reason. They wouldn't employ shoulder firing catapults to nuke each other's raider settlement.
Even if they had the technology, it would be exclusive to forces like the master's army, the brotherhood, and the enclave, and they wouldn't want to use it, either. See the master's views on using the nuke he actually does have.
It's Bethesda being stupid.
>fallout is about nukes and a 'what if' future, as it would have happened if the 50s were different.
>so it's 50s music forever, 50s propaganda, communists, nukes, and every game has to be about water and bottlecaps.
>forever.
Bethesda are retarded, and you're retarded too, anon. Go fuck yourself.
>>317531686
Thanks anon, I was super concerned with the scientific validity of shit that happens in fallout.
>>317526137
>It's been 200 years, how has the supermarket not been looted and completely picked clean?
>>317531871
Because they keep getting truckloads of money despite being incompetent and awful. Why improve or change at all if you're getting rich as fuck?
>>317531732
If you liked fallout 3 its impossible not to like this onewhich puts me in a bit of an awkward position since I fucking hated fallout 3 but I like this one
Seriously though bethesda abandoning their stupid attempts to make an RPG are for the best, skills in fo3 were basically just the same as the perks, could max them all out easily and speech was still random chance you could save scum
The only difference now is that there isn't a lot of dialogue (which lets be fucking real, always sucks in bethesda game since their writing is illiterate vietcong tier), its basically the same amount you'd get in a standard story driven shooter, but you get to pick some meaningless replies, and the gunplay is vastly improved to their previous showing
Imo just pirate it, I put 30 hours into it and I'm not even ashamed because they cut so many corners
>>317531216
>I'm gonna make a post on 4chan.
>I'm gonna post about shit I don't know.
>give me a second, I'll fuck it up even harder than anyone could even imagine.
Look up the resource war.
>>317531946
>find a legendary raider
>he has a special one of these that does extra damage to humans
>my fucking radiation levels when
god damn that was annoying.
>>317518360
Do you have an ethical problem with flamethrowers too? Or is just because you fear the big bad nuclear boogie man?
>>317528746
The first time shaun walks into the room you can just shoot him before he starts to talk too
>>317530139
crashed plane in the northern area of the map
master lock
>>317531998
I mean gas cars were low quality shit compared to american nuclear powered cars.
Same with generators.
Obviously it was expensive, it's expensive now too, I was talking relatively, and frankly if I were to make a nuclear-powered car right now it would make a gas powered car look cheap by comparison.
