Kotaku has blacklisted Penny Arcade after receiving criticism
who
Or Kotaku noticed how horrible recent Penny arcade is?
>reporting on a webcomic
I can't really comprehend the logic behind that anyway. What's the fucking point? I would understand if they meant the Penny Arcade Expo thing or something but what the fuck is this shit?
Is blacklisting going to be the new 'in-thing' to report on?
>>317480505
I don't give a shit about those stupid websites
I only browse Gematsu and Niche gamer
Fuck off
>shitaku
literally who cares?
We aren't "blacklisting" anyone. If we have something interesting to say we'll let Kotaku report it like anyone else. I just don't see the point in letting a website get freebie copies of games that actively despise them. It doesn't make sense.
They dont dare to blacklist anyone actually big, like Ubisoft who blacklisted them, so they just throw pissyfits at lesser companies.
>>317480505
What did bald and piglike say?
>>317480716
All sundays they have a post with webcomics about games and stuff, that's what he means.
Penny Arcade turned to crap years ago - it’s a late-era-Simpsons parody of itself and about as relatively funny. Sad that they’ve got to the point where they’re clumsily re-writing parables in an attempt to antagonize journalists who really are just doing their jobs. Only in the games industry would journalists reporting that games that have problems, have problems, or things that have leaked, have leaked, would the journalists be considered the problem. I’ve worked in marketing, law, shipping, and other fields - and in none of them was anyone expecting journalists to shut up or not cover stuff. It’s funny, because people who want game journos to shut up about problems AAA games have are often gamergaters, and whinge about “corruption” in game reporting, whilst themselves demanding the ultimate corruption of reporting - not reporting things which are newsworthy (and leaks and signs of trouble most assuredly are).
>>317481474
quote from the comments
Are webcomics the lowest form of art ever created?
>>317481026
oh you
>>317480849
Cute Fredrika
>>317481219
http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2015/11/20/parabolic1
Basically, Totilo (Kotaku head) whined that they were blacklisted by Ubisoft and Bethesda after leaking info, and just about everybody on the internet called them out on it.
>>317480748
Siliconera is okay too tbqh
>>317481430
And? What next? Articles on Buckleys latest vidya-related webcomics? What the fuck is the point? Does Penny Arcade make games as well or something? Don't they report on things just as much?
Are journalists doing articles on each other now? Blacklisting each other? What the fuck is going on?
>>317480674
>>317480716
It's about the comic that PA posted after kotaku posted a big thing about how they had been blacklisted by Bethesda and Ubisoft for sharing leaked information about the state and oftentimes the existence of unfinished and unannounced games.
>>317481771
>Does Penny Arcade make games as well or something?
Yes, and they do this little thing called PAX too.
>>317480505
>don't want to feature a comic on their site that actively despises them
>Kotaku despises video games and gamers
>still features them on their website
I keep waiting for the day when their entire site will be wiped clean and a note will be put up simply stating, "FOOLED YOU!".
When will this joke of a site end?
>>317480716
Kotaku is about 99% fluff. Shit like "look at this new Penny Arcade strip" is completely normal for them.
>>317481771
>Kotaku
>Journalists
>>317480505
>a website I don't care about has blacklisted another website I don't care about
Thanks for the update, brother.
>>317481720
called who out on it?
>>317481026
Eheheheheh.
>>317481878
Yes, I addressed PAX in my original post. But PAX doesn't happen every sunday or whatever do they? I guess it makes a bit of sense if Penny Arcade makes games.
>>317481972
Sorry. 'Journalists'.
>instead of stepping back and working of a good solution to restore our credibility and working relationship with companies who are vital to our ability to provide content how about we just make passive aggressive blog posts about it
If both went under I don't think I'd lose any sleep over it.
>>317481720
LOL
>>317481720
Kinda funny, why get assblasted?
>>317481474
>It’s funny, because people who want game journos to shut up about problems AAA games have are often gamergaters, and whinge about “corruption” in game reporting, whilst themselves demanding the ultimate corruption of reporting - not reporting things which are newsworthy (and leaks and signs of trouble most assuredly are).
Wut
""""""""""journalism""""""""""
>>317481720
I don't understand how anyone can take the publishers side here.
How is it a bad thing if consumers find out ahead of time if a game looks like it could be shit?
>>317481720
digging the setting
>>317482317
VIDJEO GAMES
>>317482417
because it was an early as fuck, half-finished build, genius.
>>317482317
I would agree if their definition of 'trouble' in games' development isn't always just how politically correct the game is. If they actually reported on technical and gameplay issues instead of having a fucking parade for weeks on end because a new game has tranny in it, I'd take them more seriously.
>>317482417
Because Kotaku.
Why everyone takes this "gaming journalism" thing so seriously?
Videogames aren't serious things in the first place; they're just glorified toys.
Sorry but I'm really new to this whole thing.
What do I have to do to get blacklisted by Kotaku as fast as possible?
>>317481474
>people who want game journos to shut up about problems AAA games have are often gamergaters
>>317482538
So?
Did AC: Syndicate not turn out to be a buggy half finished piece of shit while I wasn't looking?
>>317482417
Theres a big difference between" heres a thing thats happening and here are things we know" and "Heres a thing that we heard was happening heres why I personally think it will be shit based on other things we sorta maybe heard and just kinda made up, also click this article bro."
>>317482714
1. Create a blog.
2. Use said blog to mock Kotaku,
>>317482654
Because they cost over $60 now so people want to know if they are buying buggy unfinished garbage that will cost you another $30 to finish
Always good to see Kotaku getting blown the fuck out.
>>317482417
publishers are just trying to protect their public, that Kotaku shat all over
>>317482765
But we're not talking about AC here are we, genius?
>>317480716
If I was a comic author I'd be glad a shit site like SJWtaku finally stopped posting my comic on their clickbait site, which is how PA must feel, especially when they don't need publicity from a dying site that's been abandoned by all its advertisers.
>>317482894
But we are? AC is the reason Ubisoft blacklisted Kotaku.
>Kotaku is finally dying
Thank god. Next is Polygon.
>>317481026
kek
this was the last interview kotaku had with ubisoft before they stopped responding.
>>317482872
>Because they cost over $60 now
>Buying western crap
>>317480505
they despise you because you are considered the lowest turd-hustlers on the games industry totem, kotaku. fucking fire all your employees and find some real journalists or close your site
>>317482417
When have they done articles reporting on shit like that? All they do is label a game as problematic or whatever whenever they aren't diverse enough or don't exactly match whatever their checklist is for an inclusive game.
>>317480505
>we'll still report news on them if it gets clicks
>but otherwise we won't
what are they trying to say even?
>>317482654
Out of interest, what are the criteria for being a 'serious thing'?
>>317482872
And who in their right mind would trust "videogames journalists" to tell them that?
>>317482417
>Go in a restaurant
>Order a pizza
>Sneak in the kitchen
>Taste your pizza as its being prepared
>Go straight home
>Write reviews on [one of thoses sites that review food for the sake of this analogy]
>"2/10 the pizza was uncooked all the seasonings I ordered weren't even in, I even burning myself because I wasn't offered gloves to get it out of the oven"
>>317482580
journalists are supposed to be reviewing videogames for those aspects, GG is there to say "this tranny shit you complain about in a videogame review isn't videogames, stop" or "you were paid by x for y, disclose it".
If they were doing their job, and not doing all that other silliness for non-gamer clicks, GG wouldn't exist. And that would probably be great. But those shitty journalists exist, so GG exists, so get out your popcorn and enjoy the downfall.
>>317483085
he is passive aggressively saying they will not go out of their way to give PA attention cuz they made fun of Kotaku thats literally it
>>317483089
Something actually affecting your life, your health, your financial stability and your integrity. Like politics, economics or public health.
>>317483131
> but it's just pre-alpha
> but it's alpha
> but it's beta
> but it's only just been released!
> butmods will fix it
>>317483037
But that's a really important issue that matters to people, you shitlord.
>>317482417
publishers aren't required to give out early access copies or give out information not part of their usual press releases. when they do, its a privilege to whoever gets the information because whoever gets it will clearly profit from getting exclusive access. from that point of view there are certain codes of conducts to follow to continue enjoying that privilege
this is a message from kotaku be warned 4chan
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Tf12Zhysqk
>>317482872
>people want to know if they are buying buggy unfinished garbage that will cost you another $30 to finish
Wait, what? Why would you trust these websites to tell you that?
>>317483341
>two wrongs make a right.
Literally kill yourself.
>>317480505
Keep the snowball rolling! Don't let it stop now!
>>317483402
1/10 , here's your reply
Wasn't Kotaku the one who bullied a Blizzard's developer with feminist crap in the middle of an interview? I remember the guy was so annoyed that he answered the latest questions with "yes" and "Ok".
>>317483563
No, that was rock paper scissors. They ended the interview right after that question.
Just don't pay attention to games journalism, it's nothing but garbage.
>>317483427
You must be 18 to post here, anon.
>>317483563
But feminism is really important. And what about the ethics? You can't just ignore journalists, er I mean bloggers, when they treat you like shit, that's unethical.
>>317483563
>>317483656
That was Nathan Grayson, who now works at Kotaku.
I like how Kotaku's headhoncho looks like a sleazy weasel.
>>317480505
man, technically they're in the right in all this blacklist fiasco. But boy oy boy they make it extra hard to accept this fact.
Publishers not playing nice with them is also publishers' right.
>almost 2016
>reading Jewtaku
>>317483035
Has the Hulkster brought down Gawker yet? That's the real evil here.
Come on, guys, Kotaku is totally ethical.
>>317483741
That's not an argument.
>guys, the developers we despise and actively work to sabotage by leaking sensitive information about their unannounced, unfinished games, don't send us review codes anymore!
>guys, we're not covering penny arcade comics anymore because they pointed out our obvious hypocrisy and arrogance
>>317483893
>guys, we're not covering penny arcade comics anymore because they pointed out our obvious hypocrisy and arrogance
>So let's be arrogant and hypocritical again by blacklisting them!
>>317481474
It sounded like he was almost approaching an articulate point and then. For absolutely no reason at all. Gotta throw a Gamergate reference in there.
>>317482765
Not very buggy at all.
Played it launch week, and the worst bug i came across was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FVt2Xw2XI
Syndicate is actually pretty good. Almost as fun as Black Flag even.
>>317483837
Last I heard Hulkamania was running wild because a judge ordered Gawker to turn over computers for Hogans legal team to go over in search of evidence. Unless they're squeakey clean they're going to be taking the king of all leg drops.
>>317483882
If you really think a review copy doesn't accurately reflect the final product, you are underage or retarded.
Probably both.
It's the current year.
Why are people still treating Kotaku as if it had anything to do with journalism?
>>317484040
anti-gamergate never had a point to begin with.
>>317482879
Hearing a Rockstar Games developer say something about Kotaku fills me with happiness.
>>317484116
I think 'you claim to be about ethics but based your entire movement on a lie' is a good, worthwhile point.
>>317482417
>have mutual agreement with publisher not to report on a game before its finished, aside from officially sanctioned advertising material in exchange for said material like trailers, gameplay and storyline details and early review copies
>especially a game that's still in its very early dev stages
>someone breaks company policy and leaks a game's setting, plot and even dialogue
>be journalist and get a hold of leaks, in turn break own agreement like a child and publish the leak 1:1 word by word instead of being professional and just alluding to it
>BAWWWW MY FREEDOM OF PRESS WHY AM I BLACKLISTED NOW I DINDU NUFFIN
>>317484267
Then you must be severely brain damaged.
>GamerGate won
>>317480505
>companies with left-wing tendencies hurting each other
I love it when that happens.
>>317484116
I don't know why you put "anti" on there, none of it had a point to begin with. Less than nothing was accomplished, actually. The games industry is literally worse than it's ever been thanks to the GG fiasco "empowering" cunts like Alison Rapp to freely censor and delete anything that isn't PC
Gawker Media is the left-wing Breitbart.com. If it were Milo bitching about this kind of thing nobody would take him seriously. Why should Kotaku be any different just because their politics aren't as Satanically evil?
SJW fight!
>>317484232
>coming from the faggot who incited the whole Shirtgate thing and basically incited bullying against that scientist guy
>>317482417
I don't understand why anyone would ever give Kotaku any exclusive info on game builds in the first place if all they're going to publish is "Um, So Like This Happened And it's Like LITERALLY Problematic." Kotaku is a black hole when it comes to relevant information.
If I want gaming news, I get it straight from the horse's mouth and that's gaming's official website which is IGN
All these normies going against Kotaku is great. When will they go after Polygon?
>>317484391
I put anti there because anti-gamergate stands for literally nothing.
I'm torn on this. On one hand, fuck kotaku. I enjoy any time they get shit. On the other hand, blacklisting is jacked and it shows how reliant games journalism is on publishers (I know, >kotaku >journalism, but still).
Kotaku definitely had it coming for multiple reasons, but it makes you wish the industry as a whole wasn't shit.
>>317484232
>oh fuck
>we done fuck it up
>fast lets run and call those guys we have been shition on for the last year to help us
>>317484116
thanks to GG we had some pinkhair nobody who never accomplished anything of note sitting next to the games industry's biggest bullshitter, representing us to the fucking United Nations and making cyberbullying sound like terrorism against women.
"gaming journalism" always seemed retarded to me.
Normal journalists have to work hard to become one, with courses and degrees and shit dont they? yet people like Kotaku just write some crap on a blog and claim themselves as journalists for talking about glorified entertainment toys.
>>317483341
What? This game is pretty much a first draft, not a game getting released next week.
>>317484275
>have mutual agreement with publisher not to report on a game before its finished, aside from officially sanctioned advertising material in exchange for said material like trailers, gameplay and storyline details and early review copies
Except this agreement is fucking retarded, and shouldn't be followed if you want journalists to be real journalists. More journalists should break their ties from publishers. Kotaku didn't do it intentionally here, but it would be better if everyone was "blacklisted" by publishers.
>>317483037
SHOCKING news! Ubisoft isn't thinking about the social narrative but appealing to a wide enough demographic for them to earn max dosh! 2015
>>317484548
So? Am I supposed to be jealous? Surprised? What am I suppose to feel about this? Why do you care so much?
>>317484493
Just like GG itself, then?
>cry about being blacklisted
>start blacklisting anyone who doesn't sympathize with you
lol
>>317484548
I know, isn't it hilarious?
No one takes them seriously now.
>>317484654
No, Gamergate stands for ethical reporting in video games.
Anti-gamergate has no argument and never has.
>>317480716
Because Kotaku is otherwise filled with researched and well written articles.
>>317484727
>implying anyone takes either party seriously
>>317484727
>he replies to himself
for what purpose?
>>317484743
>No, Gamergate stands for ethical reporting in video games.
So there are still GG supporters on 4chan? What was the point of exiling people to 8ch then? Might as well tell them to come on back.
>>317482417
Current gaming journalism is an absolute joke where publishers basically force "journalists" to say their games are great in order to be able to review the next one early and get all the views.
This is bad, but all of the sites like Kotaku buy into this bullshit pyramid scheme.
It's the ultimate in hypocrisy to betray that trust, and then cry about it. By all means, publish an extreme expose about how gaming journalism actually works and have the normies freak the fuck out upon realising that every review is simply a paid advertisement. But crying because you got blacklisted? To me, that says "we're sorry we tried to do the "right thing" by reporting on your game with a clickbait article, please keep letting us suck your dicks".
>>317484743
Nah.
Gamergate stands for misogyny. And I'm not talking about Tumblr / Kotaku / Neogaf's definition, but actual misogyny.
>>317484489
>Look at me, I'm so "gonzo"! Can I be the Hunter Thompson of vidya jernalists now?
Sasuga porygonu
>>317480716
http://kotaku.com/lets-see-which-sort-of-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-sa-1743939084
>front page article on a "what x are you" quiz
>>317484389
There's no solidarity in the left, it's just a waiting game until one person thinks they can be king of the hill then they climb over their friends. It's why revolutions quickly devolve into dictatorships.
>>317480505
>kotaku
>waahhh, i need a special relationship and privilege to early information to perform good journalism for the company that's spoonfeeding me information
This whole fucking this is a joke. These fucking idiots have no idea what good journalism even means at this point.
>>317484882
Because moot didn't want 4chan to become a rally point for harassing campaigns. That's not /v/, or 4chan's purpose.
>>317485070
still more videogame than the average /v/ thread
>>317481573
yes
right under furry porn and diapers
>>317484627
It's still an agreement, they still agree'd to it and they broke it. Now that they did they can still keep doing the same sleazy shit and report on leaks and whatever the fuck they want, they just won't get free early material which is what they're really bitching about.
Well no fucking shit you won't get anything from the publisher you broke ties with and burned bridges, you can still get said material from other sources, quit playing the victim and suck it up because you brought it on yourself.
>>317484882
They left and spammed this whole thing about leaving October 1st...2014
>>317481720
bretty good.
>>317484601
Normal journalism became a joke in the age of the internet, and news is 90% fluff stories so normies can forget about their dumb lives.
Gaming journalism has been absolute garbage since the 90s, when magazine publishers realised they could make far more money by making a few different official magazines for each console, and filling each version with "wow, this multiplat plays the best on Playstation, good job buying one kid!" and "this new exclusive blows anything on the N64 out of the water! Good job buying a Playstation, here are some reaffirming statements because nobody actually wants criticism of their choices!".
>>317485130
>There's no solidarity in the left
This shit is so fucking true, just look what happened to Spain in the 30s
>>317485037
>They want to become the new Hunter S Thompson
>Don't shoot themselves
>>317485182
That's not saying much, Anon.
>>317485159
>Because moot didn't want 4chan to become a rally point for harassing campaigns
Yeah instead we're just a soapbox for every chucklefuck with something negative to scream, and actual, real, not-even-pretending marketers posting blog links and trying to incite riots between consolebabies
>>317481720
I am kind of confused. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing people want from gaming websites?
Sure, if their information was shitty and inaccurate that's a problem, but don't people want to be told if a game is a buggy mess?
>KotakuInAction won
Gamergate stands for attacking left wing ideas and the people who hold them.
AntiGG stands for attacking GG because of what GG stands for.
It's mostly just stupid meta bullshit, with the odd side effect that some really sleazy people can't be criticized without outing yourself as evil.
>>317485252
Did they really have an "agreement" in the first place, or is it just because those companies don't like what outlets like Kotaku do so they blacklist them? They did the same thing to sites like 1UP when they AssCreed 6/10, they also blacklisted other sites like XboxNation.
>Well no fucking shit you won't get anything from the publisher you broke ties with and burned bridges, you can still get said material from other sources
It still shows you how fucked up the system is, that journalists can't do their job as journalists without being blacklisted and that other sites benefit from not doing their job properly and essentially acting as shills for corporations,
>kotaku
are those cυcks still relevant?
>>317485484
>don't people want to be told if a game is a buggy mess?
Yes, which is why it's sad that games journalists don't do that.
>>317485446
Our board having shitty moderators doesn't make gamergate ok.
>>317485484
News reporters report on the leak, they don't leak it themselves. The leaker will have consequences.
>>317484894
Except you won't get blacklisted for saying a game is shit, unless you also accept publishers buying ad space in exchange for a good review and you can still decline, even if you accept there's a little thing called disclosure in the form of a simple footnote saying that review was paid for or sponsored. It's called professionalism, something these retards lack.
>>317485008
I feel sorry for you.
>>317485008
ghazi please leave
>>317483874
>GG
This meme still huh?
>>317484267
If you've ever read a newspaper or watched news on TV, guess what bucko-- you've been lied to through them!
Lying in media is extremely fucking common. The problem is not just the liars but the sheep who will fully embrace anything they hear in News and allow it to affect them enough to get emotional about it
>>317485446
That image is funny because people swimming in the blue ocean always attack the red ocean and the people swimming on it.
Do people on /v/ unironically think gamergate is a crusade against women or something? Serious responses, don't bait or anything.
>>317485484
That's not what they did. They leaked information on a new game before it was announced.
They never fucking report on broken, buggy games anyway. They sure didn't warn us about Arkham Knight.
>>317485853
>Serious responses, don't bait or anything.
Where the fuck do you think you are?
I'm neutral, leaning towards GG and only because Ghazi is a worse shithole than KiA when I tried to learn more about it months ago, I don't really care for it much now but my opinions still stands
>>317485853
Are you suggesting that gamergate was anything less than an attempt to strip all human rights from womyn?
>>317485834
technically speaking, grayson fired the first shots on quinn, if he hadn't published that embarrassing manifesto the entire movement would not have started. So if we're talking "who shot first" it was definitely the Men
>>317485939
You base everything you know about gamergate on reddit?
>>317485607
You have agreements and PR with companies, it's about mutual trust. The blacklist isn't even a real ban, all it means is a publisher is free to stop throwing away free shit to someone who broke said trust, the "journos" can still get said material from other sources and report on it all they want.
>>317485853
>Do people on /v/ unironically think gamergate is a crusade against women or something?
All it ever accomplished was spamming women and interrupting some web ads for like a month so...yeah
>>317485853
It's a crusade against feminists, which makes it indirectly a crusade against women.
>>317485952
yes
we were trying to kill then too
dont forget all those people gamergate killed during the last year
Can you guys stop talking about women without their express consent? You're literally raping them through the internet by talking about women with their permission
>>317485446
>it's the scale! it's the scale that's simply wrong!
>>317480505
>creating a clickbaiting OP to speak about a clickbaiting site
Meta
>>317485853
It must've gotten stuck on some poor sods' head, what with how those fuckers have been using their GG strawman to attack anyone who isn't on their side over anything.
>>317485446
Can somebody translate this sophistry into English?
>>317486078
But aren't men feminists too?
>>317486002
No, but I went to ask a few questions because I didn't know where to get more information at the time
>>317485734
>>317485694
>>317485939
Journalists always were in the bed with publishers and developers, shilling horrendous shit, defending disgusting practices and giving 10/10 scores to badly designed, poorly-coded products. No one said anything.
Then, some slut sucked dick for scores. Suddenly gaming journalism became corrupt.
I wouldn't call it a crusade against women; I just see it as a bunch of bitter male virgins and misogynists venting their frustrations. And shitposters joining the ride.
>>317486086
Sorry women, we wont do it again.Please go out with me, im a very nice guy and can protect you online 24/7
>>317486098
>tumblr
you should go back their.
>>317481720
dat Tumblr nose
>>317484627
Leaking shit for the sake of leaking isn't serious jounalism anon. Gaming journalism is just a glorified hype machine. They are literally ads. Only few sites reports on work conditions and lay offs.
>>317486056
>>317486182
Anon, please don't bait. I want a serious response here.
Do you think they have secret websites where they talk about how much they wanna kill women or something? I don't understand. If you look on all of the gamergate websites, it's just people bitching about SJWs and game journalists.
>>317486154
"Gamers are afraid of things they don't understand, and have been an isolated collective until just recently so they feel like women and SJWs are invading their own Safe Space, and became hostile in response"
>>317480592
>Such lust for revenge
>>317486280
Read between the lines.
Elliot Rodger would be a gator if he were alive today.
>>317486182
People complained before. It only got media attention when there was a pure, innocent woman involved so that the complainants could be browbeaten as bitter male virgins and misogynists and all further dissenters could be filed in the same drawer.
>>317482765
The finished build was, and that's a legit thing to report on
Reporting that a half finished game looks shit is like walking into a half built house and complaining about the fact that there is no roof.
>>317486353
Sounds like a perfectly normal response to a foreign invasion of one's safe space, tbqh family.
>>317486182
So we're not allowed to be FOR ethical journalism now because unethical journalism always been a thing and since there's women involved we can't criticize them because that'd make us woman haters?
>>317486527
White people and men don't deserve safe spaces. All they do there is make other people unsafe.
>>317486423
>Read between the lines.
What does that mean, though?
Again, all I see gamergate talk about is how much they hate SJWs and game journalism. If it was really about women, why would there be so many prominent women in it? Wouldn't these women be chased out of it if it was about hating women?
>>317482880
>different writers have different opinions
Wow!
>>317480849
>>317481673
Just curious, but why do you as an adult male watch poorly animated cartoons meant for Japanese school girls?
>>317486182
MovieBlob is that you?
>>317486646
>same guy who aproved the first article to be publsihed, wrote the second one.
Indeed wow
>tons of sites have updated their policies and add disclaimers about their relations with publishers
>"GG accomplished nothing!!!"
You people are retarded. Sure there are cunts who ride on it because they have a different agenda, every movement has these guys and GGs time should by all means be over but it doesnt mean it was for nothing or that the initial idea was bad.
Why won't Garters stay in their contentment Chan?
>>317486726
beat me to it.
>a shitty webcomic has conventions in multiple countries
How did they get popular?
>>317486756
>Why won't Garters stay in their contentment Chan?
>Garters
>contentment
Why won't you stay in your goddamn cage, Mongo?
>>317486578
Well for starters you have to figure out what the hell ethical journalism is.
Breitbart is the least ethical journalistic organization in existence - they publish half-truths and rumors as fact and launch attacks against private citizens.Tho Gawker is almost as bad tbqhYet this is who GG holds up as their ideal?
>People unironically can't even say Gamergate because it's like Voldemort to them
Pretty fucking sad
>>317486862
Little kids being raised by single parents who have no other friends or parental figures. Same reason why Let's Plays are so big.
>>317486862
cause shitty good webcontent was pretty rare back in the day.
>>317486578
If the thing is about ethical journalism, then why the gamergate movement as we know it didn't start back in 2007, when that guy was fired from Gamespot for giving Kane and Lynch a bad score, or even in 2012 when the whole thing was revealed, instead exploding when that woman slept with those dudes in exchange for positive scores for her shitty indie game?
>>317486916
>this is the part where the dude with the pasta appear
>>317486862
They guy they found to run the corporate side is shrewd as fuck and really knows what he's doing.
>>317486954
That's how Twitter works, if you say someone's name you risk summoning them.
>>317486954
>typing out gloopy glop
nowyoufuckedup.avi
Literally doing the same thing to PA what UbiBeth did to them. Top kek.
>>317486916
How has Breitbart unethical. Do you have a list of their unethical articles that they've published?
GG has compiled a nice list of all of gawker journalist's slanderous and unethical content with Deepfreeze. Do you want to try and match or compare it with these unethical things Breitbart has done?
>>317486862
penny-arcade used to be good stuff
>>317487073
because one guy getting fired over ethical practice is not as bad as 20 sites throwing a fit and calling everyone a nigger that steals and rape for over one year
you dumb fucking nigger
>>317485853
Why GG is still a thing? What's the point? What are they """""""""""""""fighting for"""""""""""""""" now? No bait, just real curious.
>>317480505
>Wahhh bethesda isn't giving us special treatment because we treat them like shit
>wow penny arcade treats us like shit? we aren't going to give them any traffic for that
kotaku has raised the bar for hypocrisy twice in one week, this is fucking history we're seeing here
>>317487316
> """""""""""""""fighting for""""""""""""""""
This isn't tumblr, lady. We don't type like that here. So at least try to fit in.
>>317487316
>makes thread whining about censorship 24/24
>WHY IS GG STILL A THING?
>>317486696
Why are you as an adult in the teenager mindset?
>>317487206
>Do you have a list of their unethical articles that they've published?
Ever heard of ACORN? Planned Parenthood? Shirley Sherrod?
Oh right you think they're all guilty because Breitbart says so. Never mind.
>>317486954
That's because the SJWs are brainwashing newfags so its not that they refuse to say it, they can't say La-Le-Lu-Li-Lo because they've been reprogramed.
>a hurr de durr, NOT giving freebies to muh favourite journalistic si-- er, blog-- er, journalistic site is UNETHICAL!
And yet no one is pointing out that giving out freebies to begin with is the most unethical part of it. As is taking them and offering favours in return.
>>317487472
Answer the question
>>317487073
>then why the gamergate movement as we know it didn't start back in 2007
Because the internet wasn't what it is now then, there was no Twitter, no Reddit, no anything, and people weren't as frustrated with the state of journalism and gaming back then. Also in 2012 there was DoritoGate. There were tons of other incidents that you could bring up other than Kane and Lynch. People did complain about that too.
>>317487376
Like 5 minutes after Tortilla said "we don't blacklist anybody," one of his writers wonders why his friends aren't blacklisting Mark Kern.
>>317485853
Because GreenGoo only ever targeted women... You can't name a single male from the whole thing but there's at least half a dozen women who were under constant fire from trolls with throwaway twitter accounts.
>"rape u good bitch"
>"gonna fuck u into a good conservative bitch"
>"don't let me see u or i'll kill you"
But yeah sure, ethics in game journalism. Totally ~
>>317487385
>>317487461
>>317480505
Wait people still think Kotaku is relevant?
>GamerGate literally had nothing to do with Kotaku being fucking assblasted about Ubisoft and Bethesda
>Other industry devs start chokeslamming Kotaku as well
>Suddenly Kotaku cries "GAMERGATE" and social justice warriors come to their aid like big-boned Valkyries and it becomes a GG issue again
How subtle
>>317487073
Well, 2 things. #1: Twitter just started in 06 and "gate" movements didn't exist.
#2: 20+ gaming journalism websites decided to directly attack their userbase in a personal vendetta to protect their "friend". Said people then decided to continually post inflamatory remarks on twitter to get a response. They deserve everything they received.
>>317487479
>Ever heard of ACORN? Planned Parenthood? Shirley Sherrod?
No. I haven't. Could you elaborate or expand on one of the subjects, explain why it was unethical and how it compares to Kotaku?
I'm just an ignorant anon who's willing to be educated. There's not need to get defensive about what you perceive to be unethical.
>Having been the cowering creature beneath enthusiast media’s Eye of Sauron on more than one occasion, the object of their tender ministrations, their ostensible populism and their eerily synchronized perspective, I have no sympathy for these creatures. Which is to say, I have the same sympathy they express for those outside their cloister. You may feel very confident that there are conversations at every publisher now, wondering to what extent they are required to eat shit from these people.
That was pretty savage actually
Git rekt Kotaku
>>317487627
John Flynt :^)
>>317487627
>You can't name a single male from the whole thing
Isn't this because the media outlets targeted did their damnedest to make the entire thing about womyn and their alleged oppression? Smells like standard information warfare to mebut I wasn't there for it, so what do I know.
>>317487518
Kotaku wants their cake and eat it too. They're that manipulative jackass in school who is nice to you as long as his friends arent around but acts like a total dickwad any other time.
>>317487627
Anthony Burch
This is stupid, they only exist the entertain us. Nothing us, their isn't a thing to argue about.
>>317487627
>Because GreenGoo only ever targeted women.
Well, women make up a majority of gamers, so no wonder.
>>317483341
>the game being unfinished in pre-alpha is the same as the game being unfinished in release
yeah fuck metal gear solid, i played the demo and it was so short, how can you expect a game to have only one level?
Critical Miss blacklist when.
>>317487627
brololz strikes again!
>>317486751
>GGs time should by all means be over
This. Why is still going? They feed each other with the sjw crowd.
>>317487837
>tfw you're not Anthony Burch
>>317486916
Based Breitbart.
>>317487712
Everytime. Even if GG wasn't still alive, they'll never let it go.
>>317488002
Feeding them just makes them louder and more stupid. Being the boogeyman that every SJW fears only makes them act more irrational than they usually do and it weakens them overall.
>>317487901
But the attackers were all male?
>>317487627
>You can't name a single male from the whole thing
Phil Fish, Arthur Gies, a shitton of other journalists. You sound like a brainwashed tumblrite.
>>317486696
Chaika is an otaku show aimed at otaku males.
Official art proof
>>317487734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_of_Shirley_Sherrod
>>317488148
Oppressed minorities tend to lash out at the majority sooner or later.
>>317488047
>a Jewish man advocating circumcision
now there's a shocker.
>>317487073
People did get mad over Kane & Lynch, and they got mad over Doritogate. 2014 made it much easier to organize an online movement, and neither K&L nor Doritogate invoked the Streisand effect the way the 5 Guys thing did. The tone of the industry also shifted and became increasingly hostile and anti-consumer between '07-14, and even 12-14. Also note that K&L and doritogate both concerned only 1 outlet, whereas 5 guys ran a thread through multiple publications
>>317487627
Phil Fish literally suffered more financial damage than everyone else put together from the whole event.
>>317488239
>males
>minorities
By literal definition, su-
>oppressed
lolno
Kotaku should have never even said anything about this, and if asked about some kind of blacklisting, they should have just denied it. This has done nothing but blow up in their face.
I'm sure some retard over there expected willful idiots to rally behind them and join the call to kill all capitalists, but in reality, either no one cares or they just shrugged it off as "yeah, kotaku sucks fucking dicks".
Gawker will probably add them to the list of sites getting axed soon enough anyway. That, or the entire snake will just die when the atomic leg drop hits.
>>317488195
A wikipedia article? really? You can't even put it into your own words?
Next you'll link me the gamergate wiki page and say everything in it is 100% true.
>>317487316
It isn't but gaming blogs and feminists acting like it still is.
>>317488193
God fucking damn. I feel like there should be a higher resolution version of that.
>>317488342
Majority of gamers are women (according to gamers themselves). Therefore male gamers are a minority in the hobby's field. What's not to understand?
>>317486353
Well he's not wrong
>>317487627
>You can't name a single male from the whole thing
Nathan Greyson, Jason Schreier, Totilo, Geoff Keighly, Archon at the Escapist..
