What the hell happened to fun in videogames?
Now every game is either a "cinematic" boring casualfest or a 2deep4u indie story
Are there ANY modern games that just focus on fun, addictive gameplay?
I feel like this hobby isn't for me anymore
>>316823125
Is that from the "ultimate melt movie"?
>>316823125
I got turned on by that webm.
There's something deeply wrong with me.
>>316823125
>>316823125
What in the fuck.
>>316823125
Mad Max, Fallout 4, MGS V, Black Ops III, Halo 5.
Nice gif.
>>316823272
Nah it Sam Niel vs Cthulhu
>>316823351
Wow, you just listed the casual shitfests OP complained about
Nice
What the fuck is that gif
>>316823351
None of those are fun. I dont play them and feel anything. Just a boring urge to do boring quests. They're time killers. Thats all. If I have to have a podcast in the background to make a game fun then its not a fun game.
>>316823398
Wasn't focusing on that because casual games are fun. I was focusing on 2deep4u which is probably trash like Life is Strange.
>>316823272
>>316823291
>>316823294
>>316823524
>Not knowing one of the greatest horror dramas of the 80s
>Being THIS plebeian
>>316823398
those games dont really qualify as either overly cinematic or "indie shitfests". If they arent to your taste thats perfectly fine but complaining about a lack of fun in games and then bitching that something isnt hardcore enough for you seems odd.
>>316823125
Soooo, what's the story here?
Cause at first I'm like "whoa she got raped real good", then I'm like "No, maybe she's giving birth to a horrible Thing monster?", then I'm like "Bitch be bleeding and cumming from her shoulders, I don't even know anymore".
>>316823527
Podcast? I play all games solo, normally you should too. These games are insanely good. Arkham Knight too.
>>316823125
Look better.
Just because you dont know about video games outside the ads you see on gamefaqs doesnt mean there arent other video games.
>>316823623
Yeah seriously.
How do you not know attack of the killer cream pie you faggots?
>>316823623
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FUCKING NAME
TELL ME
TELL ME
TELL ME
>>316823125
what's going on there?
>>316823828
>>316823840
Boku no Pico
>>316823125
Well that disturbed me thanks a lot OP thought I was on /v/ not on /x/ you fucker.
>>316823623
so is she giving birth or what? looks like a bunch of cum ozzing out of her puss puss
>>316823828
All I can remember is that the movie involves stale liquors and hobos.
>>316823828
Polanski's Repulsion.
>>316823527
Anon i hate to break it to you but you have a terminal case of cynicism. If your childhood self were given any of those games he would shit his pants in happiness. Its not the games that have changed anon, its you
>>316823724
>Bitch be bleeding and cumming from her shoulders
I'll never understand female anatomy.
>>316823374
>>316823623
No, I was right. It IS Street Trash, fuck you for calling me a pleb
L I T E R A L L Y R E V E R S E I M A G E S E A R C H
Great movie
>>316823125
Is that Street Trash?
>>316824156
>Spoonfeeding kids THIS hard
>>316823828
>>316823991
I watched it when it came out I think, and I couldn't remember the fucking name, turns out it's plane called "Possession" that's why I couldn't remember it.
>>316824008
Then how come I can still play PS1 games that I never touched as a child and have more fun than anything released now?
I tried Ape Escape for the first time ever a week ago and playing that feels so much more rewarding than anything else this year.
>>316823125
>That entire scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsDb4I6gAZQ
Smh desu senpai
>>316824313
sounds like a nostalgiafag to me
>>316823125
wtf man....
STOP DISCUSSING THE WEBM
Recommend some fun games
>>316824518
Halo 2
(good) indie shit, retro games, and game dev is your only hope at this point.
I realized this years ago and have been much happier since. AAA were still interesting but their need to entice as many people as possible always left me wanting something more.
Hate it all you want, but this is the most fun I've had in a game in years
>>316824427
someone needs to edit this with heavy metal in the backgroud, do it for science.
>>316824518
The great mistake of making a thread with an image more interesting than the topic.
>>316824742
It's the only way to get replies anymore, apart from rampant shitposting
Just Cause 2. Multiplayer mod was the best shit to ever happen. I think JC3 is coming out soon.
>>316824313
the graphical style inherent to the generation brings you back regardless of if you played that exact game before. Dont you think that kids today will nostalgiafag just as hard about Black ops 3 and Fallout 4? What makes you now any different than that kid in 10 years?
>>316823125
Killing Floor and Red Orchestra are my go to multiplayer games
>>316824860
Just Cause 3 looks awesome, that fire trailer was cool.
>>316823125
L4D2. No cutscenes, the entire game's a parody of horror B-movies, and it's fun as hell.
>>316823125
There're some really fun gameplay oriented games still. But their sales are not that high which means we won't see PS2 era ever again.
>>316823125
Normies and SJWs happened. Once normies became interested in video games, devs just wanted to make sure that they could make a quick buck and sold their souls. All of their work was turned towards either a fucking bore of a movie or and SJWfest instead of an actually worthwhile fun game. If your going to find any fun modern games, it's definitely in the indie section and not the tumblr-esque indie isle. I heard Night of the Necrodancer was pretty good. Shovel Knight was actually pretty amazing though, even if it did come off as 2deep4me.
The Shantae games are fun as fuck.
>>316824731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsDb4I6gAZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DH-jz0p9TY
>>316823125
Unreal tournament 4
>>316825509
>2015
>arena shooter
>>316823125
Fun is just a buzzword used to describe the pleasure of an experience. But it doesn't actually describe the experience.
For example: I could say I like horror games. Therefore, being scared is "fun" for me. And another person might say they don't like horror games. So being scared isn't "fun" for them.
Calling something "fun", doesn't actually describe the thing.
>>316825443
actually fits pretty well/10
It's as if every game nowadays needs to have a shitty story.
Fuck stories, gimme mindless gameplay.
Old flash games, here I come
Or those games just fucking suck like this piece of shit.
>>316825219
>Normies and SJWs happened
those are factors but to imply thats the main reason games have changed over hte years is absurd reductionism. Its a complex issue and boiling it down to "its the fault of those people i dont like" does a disservice to the conversation.
I'm the same as you OP
It isn't anything to do with nostalgia, Games have lost so much diversity over time. The reason modern games are so lackluster is because they don't need to be good anymore.
Internet marketing and marketing in general are the biggest ways to generate sales, which is why there is no pressure from developers to develop anything innovative anymore
>>316825940
>that demon girl with a sword and a fucking toast in her mouth
no way this character design wasn't ironic
>>316826104
It's actually just an acessory but you don't see shit in the game once they start vomitting enemies on your screen so I never bothered taking it off.
>>316823125
Fuck you you fucking casual nigger.
Seriously.
>>316826104
Those are optional accessories you can customize the characters with.
Smite is a pretty fun and addictive. I have 1100+ hours played. Its free. The battleground of the gods. It is a moba btw.
>>316826242
Is that a double-dildo on the HUD?
>>316826383
What? Which part of it looks even remotely lik a double dildo?
>>316825920
What ever happened to the way Looking Glass and Valve did things? Where story was mostly in the background, and if it was forced into gameplay it would at least offer something interesting.
>>316826080
>there is no pressure from developers to develop anything innovative any more
there is no pressure because it is too risky to fund something that might crash.
VR is the most innovative place right now, however soon it will become like the rest, a bland series of copy pasted and generic mechanics one it becomes profitable
>>316826529
>>316826940
Those are weapon slots. Every slut has 2 different ones. The pink haired guy has 'trick'daggers and katanas.
I know it might not be everyones cup of tea. But Splatoon is a fuckton of fun.
>>316826940
>>316826529
>>316826940
Shit look like a DIL-DOH.
>>316825981
Maybe, but when something becomes mainstream, it definetely becomes watered down and made more "acceptable" for a wider audience. Look at Youtube. Youtube actually was a thriving and somewhat interesting community before the mainstream truly knew about it. While it may not have been large, the quality was outstanding for the most part. It was just another vehicle to socialize with friends and connect with the world at large. Now, its a cesspool of some of the dumbest shit on the Internet (like that fucking Yo! Momma Jokes channel. Seriously, those jokes were last funny in '05 at the latest).
While I don't like Normies and SJWs, I honestly think the popularity of the medium was ultimately it's downfall(along with other factors). If it had been a less popular medium, maybe there would be more fun games on the market.
The majority of people have bad taste in books, TV, movies, etc. Why do you expect them to like good games?
>>316827234
We miss you Chad.
>>316827246
spot on
Theres also the death of the mid tier publisher and AA devs to consider. Back in the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era we had a fuckton of developers all making games. But the astronomical cost of developing for HD consoles and the big companies being the leeches that they are took their toll.
>>316823125
Have you tried wii u? A lot of those games are just "pure fun"
At the very least that's what I consider the platforming genre to be, and I'm so glad the wii u brought the genre back.
Also you can have lots of "pure fun" with local multiplayer, which the wii u has plenty of
>>316823125
It use to be gameplay > graphics.
Now its the other way around.
Arguing over whos next gen console is the shiniest is easier to sell to the normies then whos next gen console has the most fun games.
At least PC has that rare indie game that fun for a while every few months.
>>316823125
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>>316827103
I just got it last night and i agree
>>316827567
Next gen started not that long ago. It's going to be about graphics first for a while after that, of course.
If the next generation of consoles can barely even beat the old in terms of graphics, they likely can't manage anything else better.
>>316823125
Fun is a buzzword. It's not quantifiable. I can say that any game is not fun, or I can legitimately not have fun with any game.
There is literally nothing wrong with a game having a story, an immersive roleplaying experience, or a cinematic experience. Any or all of these can still be fun, and a game that's fun to play can have all of those built in to it.
What you want is for games to step back to the 90s, which was likely a time period you never experienced in the first place. You want games to be purely for the enthusiasts and the children. You can still have the former.
Just play games on PC. There are plenty of fun games that cater to niche audiences. There is a slew of independent titles like Shovel Knight, Volgarr the Viking, Crusader Kings, Shadow Warrior, Killing Floor. All of these are made with a specific vision in mind, for a specific crowd of people who are emotionally invested in gaming.
There are still a whole world of titles that are made for fun, for the experience of mastering the game, and so on. You simply need to look for them. /v/ is a good place to find some of them, since there are so many people here that you can definitely find good games constantly. You just have to know how to filter out the bullshit.
Also, I wish I never looked at that webm. Fuck horror movies.
fun is sexist
>>316827567
The moment a AAA game has mediocre graphics everyone loses thier shit, like with Fallout 4.
Publishers are scared of this and force their devs to pimp out the game instead of making it play well.
>>316825648
Well, there is a different between fun and engaging. You could enjoy horror games, but are you sitting there with a smile on your face having a blast? Or are you just entertained? Both are fine, and maybe you're the kind of person that laughs and gets the endorphins pumping from silent hill, but most people aren't. Just like a game of soccer can be fun, but a game of chess probably isn't, it's engaging.
>>316827567
That's why I don't care about which hardware is stronger. The moment you start caring too much about graphics you're limiting yourself. I have seen a lot of people who can't enjoy old fun games anymore because of graphics.
>>316823125
>Are there ANY modern games that just focus on fun, addictive gameplay?
MGSV, Souls series. That's probably it.
>inb4 witcher 3 goty
They can fuck off with this casual bullshit, I don't understand how can people think that anything>gameplay
The most fun I've had with an FPS in years.
>>316823125
>sperm and broken hymen blood spilling everywhere
>>316828349
Gets boring after 3 hours.
Videogames are still fun just quit being cynical.
>>316828387
The average hentai doujin
>>316828349
I can't wait for the fucking sequel.
>>316828484
How is shit like Life is Strange or The Witcher 3 fun?
You just can't defend your 2deep4u story shits without calling someone 'cynical'.
>>316823125
Games with fun gameplay get shat on anyway for being 'meme games'.
cineshit and indie games are also all 'meme games'.
If you go on /v/, everything is a meme game and you will find no actual discussion.
You should know this by now.
>>316828349
>that room by room level design
I got sick of this shit and couldn't be bothered to get past the second act. It doesn't help that it was a fucking industrial area too.
The sequel looks fantastic through, it's everything I hoped for.
>>316828172
Then why bother with new consoles? Upgrade processor in PC.
>>316827103
This and a lot of Wii U games are almost mindless fun. I play Splatoon almost daily. I load the games, play a few matches and that's it.
>>316828653
You're post is just one big meme
>>316828653
The problem is even bigger outside of /v/. No one plays games for gameplay anymore. Everyone jerks off to Fallouts, Witchers, Skyrim, Telltale games and shit.
>>316828687I like Nintendo games
>>316828582
Try playing games that appeal to you
>>316825443
Hahaha fuck thanks mate.
>Just Cause 3
>Hitman
>Crackdown
No cinematic bullshit, just pure chaotic sandbox goodness
>>316823125
Bloodborne
Hotline miami.
That game saved gaming for me. Hotline miami two is fine as well although they started adding a story in the sequel, which bummed me out a bit. Its better in all other aspects than hotline miami one though so pick it up nevertheless.
>>316823125
Idk, butShantae and the Pirate's Curseis pretty fun.
>>316828816
>>316828582
What the fuck? I thought /v/ liked Witcher.
It's got great depth for a cross platform RPG
>>316828920
>just cause series
>fun
Pick one and only one
>Are there ANY modern games that just focus on fun, addictive gameplay?
In this day and age those types of games can be shit out in a week's time by a group 4 no-namers in their living room
these exist in abundance, so I don't know why you're acting like they don't exist anymore
>>316823125
Fun is perceived by the player.
Some people see cinematic games as fun. Some people see walking simulators as fun. Games aren't as simple as they used to be, so when it comes to vidya fun is all over the place.
Anything Wayforward makes really.
>>316823125
Bayonetta 2.
>>316829082
It got nominated for GOTY.
>>316823125
get the fuck out, Nintendokuck
>>316823125
>mfw try to play csgo
>everybody is a tryhard coz MUH ESPORTS, punishes you for not using best guns 247 or AWP instaheadshots before you do shit
>play old shit offline with PS3
>satisfying hours of no griefing and generally just nice experience
wish i could play starcraft 2 or WoW casually but it will never happen the online servers are assfaggot gold
>>316829082
>>316829292
>/v/ liked it
I didn't like it since its release. I hate The Witcher series, especially after bullshit ending to the books and people getting orgasms over boring characters like Ciri or Yennefer. Gameplay sucks, story isn't really as great as people say and graphics are okay.
>>316825174
God Hand might have been the last "video game" I actually played, it did not take itself seriously for a single minute, its nice to play something like that once in a while
the reason that games are casualized now is because graphics got better. The entire idea of a game is petty cool if you think about it, most people know this and with new graphical technology there is less imagination and abstraction required to enjoy games, this lowers the mental barriers to entry for enjoyment and immersion.This causes large amount of new customers to enter the market that shifts demand away from more mentally challenging and mechanically deep games. Along with the higher budgets required to make these graphically intensive games and the overall shit taste of the market nowadays pressures developers to make safe consumable choices.
There are always good games being made, there are some lean years sure, but as long as someone wants to play a good game, someone will make a good game. I just wish large studios devoted their time to a decent project every now and again.
I can relate to OP most games feel like a chore especially with all the open world games released recently (The witcher 3 is an exception), maybe try Dungeons defenders if you have a buddy to game with.
>>316823125
Get a Vita and/or a Wii U. They saved my love for video games.
>>316823125
It's time to go back to Nintendo games, pal.
>fun, addictive gameplay
Splatoon. Look no further.
![alt-noscale[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vHszZwQ.jpg "alt-noscale[1].jpg")
>20 minutes long beginning, not a cinematic but really gameplay
I mean this could work if you REALLY worked hard on a scenario, a scenario which isn't at first glance fucking horrible like every ass creed rehash
Even then something like Fallout New Vegas or Pathologic is good in the sense that you have 4 dialogues then bam you can play, and the scenario is good so you don't feel forced to follow the plot on a fucking leash
Especially now with those Open World game, very trendy and all but do we need 30 minutes of "Hey look around while shit explode and those tacky characters are establishing the plot, OH GOD THEY WANT TO KILL YOU QUICK GET IN THE CAR TIME FOR SOME SLOW SIGHTSEEING WHILE I TELL YOU ABOUT MY LIFE"
New Farcry for example do that and it's terrible
>>316830165
>try Ground Zeroes
>the very first scene features Snake with a wrist mounted holographic phone thingie
>in 1974
Yeah, no, fuck that noise.
>>316823125
Sauce?
>>316823125
>Hates casual games
>Too stupid to find non casual games himself and asks to be spoonfed on /v/
No anon, you are the casual.
I felt the same way. Then I played the Souls games, and they actually feel like video games.
>>316826080
>Internet marketing and marketing in general are the biggest ways to generate sales
sure but thats true of every industry in existance so that seems like an odd thing to point to.
Rather id agree that marketing costs are out of hand however it goes in tandem with development costs also beign intensely bloated. Games cost too much to take a risk on a big budget game and the mainstream industry doesnt see a point in anything but big budget games. Im sure you can see the issue.
you arent wrong about marketing, but its only emblematic of a larger issue rather than the root cause
>>316823125
Just to add emphasis, I'll suggest the same as some anons before me:
Splatoon
>>316830601
this desu, or just play old games, played homeworld for the first time last year and had a fucking blast
there are 20 ish years of good vidya, go nuts faggot
>>316830465
Possession.
>>316824930
Fallout 4 is shit compared to Fallout 2
Games have gotten worse and its a fact
Children stop posting
>>316827246
You are by far one of the most delusional people I have ever seen on this site and I'm thoroughly convinced you never even got to visit pre-Google YouTube.
The people were as dumb as they are now, just lesser in number. The majority of people using YouTube were using it to find anime. Speaking of which, I wish I still had the copypasta that LITERALLY EVERYBODY put on their videos to abuse the search to try and pull in as many views as possible. It was still loaded with crappy "reviews" and "reactions." Let's Plays existed in spirit, they just never went by that name until...was it Slowbeef who came up with it? Someone from SA. You still had stupid people doing stupid things or their animals doing stupid and/or cute things. The YouTube "community," which is a very interesting word of you to use on something more akin to a cesspool, you're so desperately trying to romanticize never existed on a grand scale. Any good corner of it was, and always will be, a tiny majority that is in no way indicative of what the place is actually like.
Oh, and please stop pretending that you remember things before they went bad. You and I both know you're just using secondhand knowledge.
>>316831014
What ever happened to the Bethesda that wanted to make the Elder Scrolls games life sized?
Why can't they be more experimental?
>>316831014
mainstream games sure, smaller budget shit still has some sparks of life here and there
>>316827246
The thing is that sort of popularity has been found by other mediums and they still manage to produce quality content as well as the schlock for the masses. In TV movies and books we see tons of bullshit out there for the "casuals" of hte medium but also content made for connoisseurs. htat content usually isnt as high budget but it is still solid as hell and a lot of it looks pretty damn good on a relatively small budget.
The issue is that games have yet to find that middle ground. We have absurdly expensive AAA titles that absolutely must be aimed at hte casual market if they want any hope of making money, and you have dirt cheap indie games that almost always lack quality. theres a niche there for middle of the road costing games aimed at a small but hardly insignificant group i.e. us. It just seems the model for making such games has yet to be found, but rest assured it will. We are an audience with money who want a product and it is the nature of capitalism that in time that want will be filled. I certainly couldnt say when it will happen, but theres hope for the future
>>316824440
>nostalgia
>for games he hasn't played until now
god, this new generation is fucking retarded.
>>316828816
but thats the thing, to those people that gameplay is good. They arent faking, they legitimately enjoy it.
It would be more correct to say the gameplay you find fun isnt produced much anymore
You remembered to pre-order fun, right?
>>316823125
In the last few years?
>Ys Memories of Celceta
>Sayonara Umihara Kawase
>Bayonetta 2
>The Wonderful 101
>Souls games in general
>Rayman Origins/Legends
>Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen
>Deception IV Nightmare Princess
>Alien Isolation
>The Evil Within
>Etrian Odyssey IV
>Dragon's Crown
And that's just a few I can think of. Stop playing shitty games, I guess.
>>316823125
>>316831885
2 was unbelievably dull. It felt like the best thing ever for a couple of hours and then I realised that that's it, that's the game and all there is to it.
>>316831885
JUST
>>316823623
>1980s
nope
>>316831885
I really don't want to buy another 60 dollar game on launch after the last two mistakes, but Fuck me does this look worth it.
>>316832087
CAUSE
Just Cause 3
XCOM 2
Total War: Warhammer
DOOM
Any online FPS
D W A R F F O R T R E S S
(with monster hunter mod + a really tiny world + short history + maximum mega-beasts)
Fortress mode is good, but .40 broke seigies coming so meh. but adventure mode with the monster hunter universe mod means you can start off as a crazed naked bastard make some cat bone armor and venture of to kill dragons by bludgeoning them with baby teeth.
>>316831761
No. People just have low standards nowadays. They take everything that appeals to a wider audience and praise it above all else.
>>316832968
>dwarf fortress
Great, a bunch of ASCII symbols.
>>316823125
i watched this film drunk. shit was crazy
>>316823527
>None of those are fun
>I don't play them
Then how do you know they aren't fun, if you don't play them?
/v/ again is a special kind of stupid.
>>316833680
>not using a tileset/ better ascii graphics set
>>316823125
Congratulations, you have grown up.
Maybe you guys should try some indie games? A lot of those are usually focused on gameplay alone. Out of the ones I played lately: Downwell, Vagante and One Finger Death Punch. All extremely gameplay focused and just fun to play.
>>316832968
>.40 broke seigies coming so meh
Can you explain? Do they not come AT ALL?
>>316833046
Your statement implies you think gameplay rests on a sliding scale of good to bad and everything falls in their somewhere. Id argue that's far too simplistic, you can point to good and bad examples of all sorts of gamely, including types you or i might not like. I dont like sports game, but ive had my ear talked off about the differences between different franchises and the quality of each. Even though i (and likely you) don't personally like it, its unfair to say all games of that variety are bad or have bad gameaply.
Certainly there are some people out there who adore games 99% of people would call shitty, but in general i think its a little closed minded to say those with different tastes just love shit. I bet a lot of them would hate the stuff you love.
Look towards Nintendo.
>Super Mario 3D World
>Mario Kart
>Sm4sh
>DK Tropical Freeze
>Pikimin 3
>Splatoon
>Wondy 101
Only 2 of those have a major story and Pikmin 3's doesn't get in the way of the game. They're usually more concerned with making a fun experience and then making up a story for it.
>>316834272
the opposing civ needs:
>to have enough population
>to see you have higher wealth than them
>to be at war with you
>to see you as a threat
>to see you as being close to their stuff
>to take the time to train troops
>to take the time for troops to travel
necromancer towers kick ass though, and now because you can bludgeon kill enemies hammer users are a must against them and other fleshy creatures like the sponges.
other stuff in .40
no weapon runs are now viable due to changes in how battles use up time as well as what you can do while unarmed. the forum goes have put out a guide to what is basicly a dwarf martial arts based on all the new junk. you can easily overpower several many people, while breaking arms stealing weapons and preforming jump-kicks (jumping (j) / climbing (h) is in along with multi-tile trees. so ambushes are fun now.)
you can also surrender to a bandit (y) and give him your stuff. in general combat now can jump between simple fist-fights and to the death battles.
>>316823724
I think that's supposed to be a fluid pouring out of her ears
>>316835016
>>316834272
OH! and dwarves have emotions (actually pretty deep desu, they can now have opinions of recent fort events. they will even cry when happy or sad enough. a harsh side effect is if you as an adventurer decide to go full lets-kill-everything your character will cry as you fight, insinuating he doesn't want to do it and you're just possesing him), and running/ jogging/ walking slowly are in
you can also leave control of a fort without actually getting rid of the fort which means you can be a citizen in adv. mode to your own city,
>>316834324
I'm not talking about this sort of thing.
The only thing that a game has to have to be successful is good graphics, simple, yet trying to be deep story and mediocre gameplay. Tastes are really narrow. There are people whose taste is just picking from AAA games without looking at the quality - they play sport games, rpg games, shooters.
And people who explore their taste and actually try to get the best experience in their favourite genre.
You know what I'm talking about? A modern 'gamer' who likes rpgs will love every AAA rpg thrown at him. Is it really a taste or just a preference?
>>316835016
>>316835474
thanks, anon
>>316825219
>SJWs
Nah pal it was just normies. The publishers were practically paying for the whole development of their AAA flagship titles and when they started looking into who was testing games it was mostly pro testers who were there to break the game, not just anyone off the street, so they assumed if they could make the games comprehensible to those assholes, maybe they would become a new market. Check out writings about how much Halo 3 campaign was reworked under these conditions. It turned from an experiment into a commandment: spoonfeed everything. Similarly, when Activision "merged" with blizzard, the same kind of un-fun cost-benefit analysis revealed that the hardest and most rewarding parts of world of Warcraft were only played by a small percent of the players. Too a developer, that's because only a small percent of the players are able to appreciate this content because it was meant to be overwhelming, but also be the highest expression of the game's design and the most interesting content. Activision saw that as "shit these nerds are wasting money on" and put pressure on Blizzard to make that shit way more accessible. Result? No one does anything except that content now, because nothing else is as rewarding. (Pvp is for gays)
SJW games are just much more about their themes and narrative than their game design, so they leave it dumb and derivative because they don't care about that aspect of the medium. Like writing a story just because you want it to be a book, not because it benefits from our deepens the format.
