How do we go from THIS....
A) Hate Dialogue Choices
>>316818108
to fallout 4 dialogue with 4 options, gtreat thread op
to THIS
>mfw I kept the Bronze Sphere
>>316818273
>>316818337
>tfw opening the bronze sphere
>>316818273
This is fucking pathetic.
wow its like im reading an actual book
so rare and unique
>>316818224
Todd, shouldn't you be making Fallout 5: Call of Duty edition?
It's an attempt by them to attract as many casual players or people who don't want to bother with lengthy dialogue sessions.
>>316819260
But it's a book where you can have choices
There's literally no other medium as perfect for it as video games
What happens if I open the sarcophagus? All these fags are telling me not to open it, so I definitely should right?
>>316818337
>mfw I forgot the Bronze Sphere
>>316819580
That's another game
And it's just a bomb
>>316819459
>choose your own adventure books don't exist
What else is different in your universe?
>>316819669
Are you serious?
>>316819673
Choose your own adventure books are cumbersome and INFINITELY inferior, that's what I was talking about. Having a system manage the background stuff so you can just immerse yourself and read is much better
It's barely a video game but it's a good thing in itself
>>316819459
What aboutvisual novels
>>316819836
Yup, meant to post a JC but couldn't find one in my folder
>>316820039
No visual novel has a dialogue system like this. Ever. They're all just picking a path every once in a while, and then just clicking start to advance dialogue
>>316818108
Is that onslaught of text considered to be a good thing? Are you one of those people thinking words raise your iq?
>>316820426
No but a good amount of differing dialogue options is a good way to raise the feeling of being immersed in a roleplaying game where you can do and say whatever you want, the more the merryer
>>316820645
You don't do shit, it's a character driven game. If you ever played Torment you would know that you just go down the list, option by option and strike off endless sentences of painful prose.
>>316818273
Graphic engines and voice acting.
>>316820832
maybe that's how some people play these games -- selecting the ramaining responses and skipping reading the text, but there's some people that actually enjoy reading what the game has to offer, and I do think that more dialog choices (even if it's for pure RP purposes) is better than less choices.
Planescape was always an outlier. FO4's dialogue wheel is retarded but every or even most 90s RPGs did not have as much dialogue as Planescape did.
Planescape's story was on par with an average schlock fantasy novel. Games are just not a good medium for narrative.
>>316821794
No it wasn't
This makes me question if you've ever read anything made in the past 20-30 years in terms of books or if you're speaking out your ass as a /lit/fag that doesn't actually read books
>>316818637
Fuck you buddy, sarcastic Hawke carried that shitstain of a game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0sGW_0b6_s
>Planescape: Borement
>>316819958
The only difference is you don't have the go to page whatever. How that is infinitely inferior makes no sense.
>>316819673
are you really advocating for less options for video game dialogue?
>>316821982
>VTMB still has one of the best facial animations in the past 11 years
>>316821794
>games are not a good medium for narrative
The fuck? Sure they are, it's just fucking autists can't be arsed to read words. This is why shit like the dialogue wheel and voice acting game into play.
You do know these are just info dumps right? You click one, read what he has to say and go back to choose the other options.
>>316821943
>not standard femhawke
Shit video
<- SPEAK AS THE SHROUD
How did we go from this (pic related) to >>316818108
>>316822328
What about 4 and 5 (they seem identical) and 14 and 15 (one is lie and the other is bluff but they're the same sentence)?
>>316821937
Serious question: are you retarded?
>>316821378
The point is that the dialogue choices are not choices at all, they don't dissapear when you choose one except in the Ravel scene. Ah what a shit game, can't believe it's still praised. Bethesda is a braindead company but dialogue should be narrowed down compared to Torment.
>>316822478
As far as I remember, you can still go back and choose the other options.
>>316822478
Truth/Lie affect your alignment and some beings can sense whether you are lying
>>316822215
Not really but they were really good yes.
is fallout 1 actually good?
You know what upsets me?
How you can't craft ammo. Fuck you
>>316822593
Serious question, did you go through high school ?
Did you read the most famous works of the ages, going from ancient epics like The Illiad and Oddysey, through middle age books about el Cid and Tristan and Isolde, all the way to works of the renassance and romantism periods, like dantes Divine Comedy, the Decameron, Les Miserables and the like
Those stories are nothing special
In fact les Miserables specifically, lauded as a masterpiece, is fucking mediocre, with hamfisted messages that are bashed over your head. Yes the restoration period was bad Victor, we get it. The stories in it are no more complex than what you'd find in genre fiction, regarding poverty and the tragic fates of characters, except just without the fiction
So my question stands, are YOU retarded / Did YOU pay attention in high school when you went through all the most famous and aclaimed historical works ?
>>316818108
What happens if I want to ask more than one of those questions? How do I know which option progresses the dialogue?
>>316822953
>shoot a nuclear warhead at a dude
>he's still alive
>>316822953
Why would you want that?
You have basically infinite ammo in this game asides from mini nukes and alike.
>>316823523
Usually the ones that don't end with a question mark, like the I intend to merge with you one
so now that we've had some time with the game, can we all agree that Fallout 4 is way better than Fallout 3/NV but worse than FO2 andbetter than FO1
>>316818108
>The series has gone from a slow cerebral game to a faster paced more action oriented one
both ways have their merits. Id very much like a true successor to fallout 2, but fallout 4 is still a highly enjoyable game regardless of its lineage.
>>316822171
No, although it depends. More options doesn't automatically equal better.
>>316822387
> playigng non cannon protag
lmao what a kekold
>>316822953
>mfw you'll have to buy DLC to craft ammo like how you had to buy Dawnguard to make arrows in Skyrim
>>316822387
>Voiced Bioware female protag
>Ever
I bet you also played a female Shepard
>>316818108
...to this?
>>316824725
>canon
>in Dragon Age
>>316825987
Default Bioware canon
>>316822064
It's infinitely inferior because the medium is not suited for it. At a certain point the tedium of having to find the right page becomes too cumbersome for it to be practically possible. That's what makes it well suited as a computer game.
In theory you can use a physical notepad to draw the registers of your computer and manually do the operations for any computer game in existence, so the argument that you could also give it a physical representation doesn't hold, because you can do that with any game out there as well - yet the practicality of it makes it non-viable. And the same applies to choose your own adventure books once they reach a certain degree of depth and complexity. Not to mention that Torment also implements a whole lot more of game-logic which people who claim it was "just a VN" forget about, proving that in most cases they're repeating hearsay rather than relying on their own experience due to the fact that they haven't even played the game.
>>316826936
So basically you're saying you're too lazy to look for the page that continues the story. Video games are also guilty of the same thing, it constantly break the flow of reading for gameplay sections.
>>316828717
I've already told you why this is a nonsensical argument:
>In theory you can use a physical notepad to draw the registers of your computer and manually do the operations for any computer game in existence, so the argument that you could also give it a physical representation doesn't hold, because you can do that with any game out there as well - yet the practicality of it makes it non-viable.
