>raiders are always mindless drug addicted psychos that are just evil for the sake of evil
>not just tribes that have stuck together to form a community and survive in the harshness of the wasteland
Is anyone else tired of Bethesda's black and white morality and rape of the Fallout lore?
>>316817808
>drug addicted psychos
That's what raiders always were.
>>316818468
I take it you've never played fallout 1 past 5 minutes?
Raiders in FO4 are quite a bit more human than they were before.
>>316817808
>he says while stockpiling chems off the corpses of the raider genocide he's taken part in
>>316817808
>Not reading their notes and terminal entries and finding out they're exactly what you're describing that you wish they were
Someone's a run and gun casual.
>>316819106
Protip: Equip a bowler hat on Codsworth. It's adorable.
>>316819106
All the raider conversations are great
>Turns out the kid couldn't swim
>>316819458
This. Shit has me feeling like I'm playing an Arkham game. Even though the stories and lines get repetitious I appreciate the effort.
>>316819034
the khans were the ONLY ones that had any background but i killed them immediately so i never cared, raiders as a random encounter were always just a bunch of punks trying to take your shit, so regardless of if they were psycho induced assholes or people who needed my shit was irrelevant, they died by my hands.
>>316817808
The other day I was thinking of coming up with nonsense bait about how "Raider Scum" was incredibly offensive and raidistic... But then I decided that it was too stupid.
>>316817808
It was okay when Fallout 1 did it
>>316817808
>fallout lore
>>316819327
It's like when pirates were bitching to ubisoft about fc4 issues that only effect pirated copies
A lot of gamers are just fucking retarded.
>>316819034
Yeah, the Khans and other gangs in FO1 were totally people just trying to survive instead of bloodthirsty thugs whose leaders literally try to kill you for looking at them the wrong way
>raider violently chasing and shoot cow
>"think you can win huh?"
>mfw
>>316817808
Sounds appealing.
>Early game FO4
>Pass that crashed plane
>come up on a Raider camp
>approach it
>Raider in Power Armor pops up out of nowhere and Nukes my shit
Either way, they're getting wiped out so I can build a new slave labor camp.
How the hell did this end up being WORSE than /v/ predicted?
>>316817808
They need a kill on sight human enemy to fill up the world with le epic gunfights
>>316820018
>equip Boxing gloves
>sneak behind Raiders/human enemies and press the Power button
>Sole Survivor either punches the shit out of them, performs a neck snap and instantly kills them or performs a motherfucking german suplex
>mfw
I am loving this so much.
>>316817808
your a consumer not a developer, shut your mouth if you cant do it better yourself
>>316820241
More like they need at least a few NPCs that aren't essential :^)
>>316819949
They were both simultaneously. It was part of the reason they survived at all.
>equip full raider gear, sack helmet with straps, pipe gun, look like a crazy chaos cultist
>enemy raiders still try to kill me
>settlers still welcome me with open arms
or
>assault gunners compound
>at night
>wearing power armor head to toe
>"There she is! kill her!"
>>316820286
"Did you just take a shit on my table?"
>WOOOOW CHEF RAMSAY WANTS SOMETHING TO HIS GODLY STANDARDS I SEE, HOW ABOUT YOU COOK US A GOURMET MEAL YOURSELF YOU DO-NOTHING HACK
>>316820263
I haven't played it, but I noticed there's some pretty varied H2H animations in the game. Pretty cool.
>>316817808
>people who loot stores for TVs and VHSs when hurricanes hit are just trying to survive
That's what you sound like, OP.
>>316820151
>expected skyrim with guns
>got skyrim with guns, plus HATE NEWSPAPERS
Just needs slutty mods.
>>316820840
>VHSs
What are you, a roof Korean during the LA Riots?
>>316820791
It's pretty lovely, man. Can't wait for a mod that makes them occur more frequently. I fucking love punching people to death and hearing them cry out "MY ARM!" before the final blow rains down on their head and kills them. The Sole Survivor can even trip them though it does no damage. I did it to some Psycho on the stairs and she fell to her death. It was hilarious.
>>316819949
They were both
Leaders just like in the khans and in the mafia were bloodthirsty bastards so they could keep people in line, but they were still tribes for survival, hell you could even visit the khans tribe camp in fallout 1 and join them
>>316819106
Ironically, so are the fucking Super Mutants. I found myself sneaking a lot just to hear enemy conversations.
>They actually have conversations with each other, about expanding
>Sometimes when fighting you, they scream about how humans will pay for their ignorance for creating them
Not only the dialog, but the AI in general links together with everything so well. It honestly reminds me of FEAR.
>Sneaking on rooftops
>Super Mutant spots me
>"I see you up there, you little sneak!"
Honestly, compare this game to Skyrim and it's like the entire development team was overhauled. After Skyrim I thought this game would be a disaster. Very pleasantly surprised.
>>316822794
Compared to Witcher 3, the enemies are way more engaging and fun to fight. That goes for both combat, design, and dialog.
The only time I remember enemies in W3 actually reacting to how the battle is going is when they scream "HE'S CASTIN' SPELLS", and there are only two different lines of that.
>todd posting still continues
How should I feel about it?
>>316819949
the vipers would even have a chat and negotiate with you you shit
>>316822794
Theres so much little attention to detail its amazing. I'll definitely end up purchasing the game eventually because I am really surprised by how good fallout 4 actually is.
>hiding behind a car when it starts to burn
>curie warns me and tells me to find new cover
>didn't even notice
>>316823175
HATE TODD
>>316820151
Wat. The game is leagues better than /v/ was saying.
I think Tortanic ruined /v/ a bit. Become part of the culture to want another one.
>>316824208
its trash
>>316823526
I swear, there's enemy commentary on almost everything.
>Raider Attack Dog runs at me
>"Sick him, pal!"
>Head Cripple Raider
>"I can't fuckin' see!"
>Kill one of their friends
>There's different dialog from nearly every enemy
I wish games did this sooner, even the smallest details like that are what makes games more immersive. I remember in Alien Isolation when I got cornered by 3 different cyborgs. One of them said "WE just want to help.", which made it feel like they were adapting to the situation.
>>316817808
>raiders are always mindless drug addicted psychos that are just evil for the sake of evil
Actually, FO4 handles this a lot better than 3. Raiders are still dicks but they seem to have a bit more humanity to them.
>sneaking through a raider base
>hear one of them saying he's going to go fight in the combat zone
>his buddy tries to convince him not to, ends up telling him to stay safe and don't get killed
Could have been worse.
I hope there's a mod that makes low level raiders run away in fear when you're in high level power armor.
That and territorial animals.
>>316824208
Its not a bad game, its just not a Fallout game. Its more like Borderlands.
>>316824670
>wearing power armor
>walk through tripwire triggering a pistol trap
>bullet *PING*s harmlessly off the armor
>>316824208
>leagues better
When I heard they were cutting out most RPG elements, I figured that the exploration and itemization would get better in return.
Surprise, the weapon variety is shit and there's no reason to explore locations since you won't be getting better gear.
I'm playing on survival at level 29 and I kill pretty much every non-legendary enemy I run into in 2-3 shots with a double projectile rifle. I know I'm not going to be getting better loot, so why bother exploring?
>>316825038
>Wearing power armor
>Melee weapon raider runs at you
>"Oh come on, who the fuck would do tha-"
>He jumps at your back and attempts to take out the fusion core
>Settlements have scouts that will alert the base if you let them get away
Sad that the Creation Kit is so far away.
>>316825218
Bobble heads, magazines (games, hairstyles, paint jobs, and so on), scrap, power armour/power armour parts, experience, potential quests, autism, legendaries with different effects, potentially unique clothing items for dress up time, potentially unique weapons.
I'm sure other people can think of more. Guess you're just that gud/lucky anon cause legendaries are still trouble for me on survival.
That and I just like exploring places, loot is never my primary concern.
>inb4 none of that counts
>>316820772
One day i'll see an argument on this board that doesn't involve shit analogies.
>Do a quest to help some guy drain a huge pool of water because he wants to search the place for loot
>Come back later andIt's now a giant raider base and the guy who gave the quest is the leader of it.
>>316825671
>inb4 none of that counts
It's not that none of that counts, it's that none of that matters.
Why look for bobbleheads when I don't need stat increases?
Why look for power armor when the power armor is pretty useless?
Why look for unique wepaons when they're not going to do better than what I have anyways?
The game is asking me to play it for no actual reward. There's a reason Oblivion/Skyrim exploration is awful, and that's because of randomized loot. You'll fight a draugr deathfucker and get an iron sword of with 5 ice damage.
Maybe the locations would be worth exploring if they were actually interesting, but
>Bethesda
As an example
>find the racetrack flyer
>head to the racetrack to see what kind of races they have going
>it's full of raiders and they just shoot at you, nothing to do there but kill them
>hear about the combat zone from two raiders talking
>head there to see if i can join the fights and make some caps from cage fighting
>it's full of raiders and you kill them all, but hey here's a companion to make up for the fact that you wasted your time
I mean for fucks sake, give me a godamn break here. I want the game to engage me and it absolutely refuses.
>>316819106
Yeah, I saw one where the raider was talking about regretting killing someone and hoping the next one wouldn't be so messy. It's pretty cool to hear those things, but doesn't stop me from shooting them in the face.
>>316817808
I YIELD, I YIELDNEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
>>316825949
Oh shit, that's what that cunt is up to! I failed the persuasion attempt to get him to tell me what he was really doing and planned on killing him just because.
>>316826296
I get what you're saying but
>power armor is useless
>don't need stat increases
Be 100 percent honest anon are you really playing on survival? Not that it's difficult really but their 200 percent damage increase and your 50 percent cut make it sort of hairy. Power armour is incredibly useful.
>>316825813
This one is pretty good because its both shit AND food.
>>316820286
Why?
>>316827165
>Be 100 percent honest anon are you really playing on survival?
Yup. I used the power armor once or twice and realized it was completely redundant.
Run into a tough enemy? Cripple the legs and kite it. Bottlecap mines help.
The most trouble I've ever had was with a legendary sentinel bot and an assaultron at the same time. Ended up using 2 nuka grenades. But it was definitely worth it because they were guardinga fucking power armor set.
>>316819106
In most raider bases there's terminals that change depending on what you do to the other gangs.
>>316827165
Where the fuck do you find fusion cores though? They run out so quickly, do you just have to buy new ones every time?
How can there be so many fucking Raiders all wearing identical armor?
80% of the human population is Raiders. If they don't fight each other, then who the fuck are they raiding?
>>316822794
>>316823526
So how much are they payin ya?
>>316827649
Raiders do fight eachother though,
>>316827649
Bunker Hill pays them off.
>>316826296
>why even play a video game when outside looks better than graphics
>>316827649
This.
I mean I kind of like how in Fallout 4 you get some abandoned settlements that clearly had people in and are now overrun, but jesus fuck are there literally only TWO towns in the Commonwealth other than the ones you found? How the fuck did things go this much to shit?
>>316827473
I only saw this in the Forge base.
>>316827975
>TWO
Diamond City and...?
>>316826296
I hear you, we are just a million miles away from the original Fallouts. Remember that Todd Howard fucking hates RPGs and has no interest in playing any part of a game that doesn't involve killing things, so stage by stage he's been removing that from all Bethesda games since he took over.
Raiders that you can TALK TO is an insane idea to him.
>>316828147
Goodneighbor, but there's only like 4 quests
>>316828147
Goodneighbour. It's to the east of Diamond City, you pass it on the "Freedom Trail" but it's easy to miss. it's involved in the main quest quite a lot.
>>316828208
Virtual blood and fanboy tears sustain him.
>>316828319
>>316828262
Oh yeah. I spent a lot of time doing things there but it was so small I didn't consider a city.
All this time I've been hoping for someone to pop up and mention that there's a sprawling reclaimed metropolis for me to visit.
So I was just about to return some quest for the Brotherhood when apparently an UFO flew overhead and crashed. My companion was very excited and said we should investigate. There weren't any quest markers but I went into the general direction of the aircraft and found it. Now that I'm at the crash site, there is literally nothing to do.
Can't enter the thing. There aren't any alien bodies lying about. It hasn't even dropped or lost any kind of loot. For what purpose include this in the game then? Is it a homage to the earlier Fallouts? I just wasted my time tracking this thing down and I got nothing in return. Fuck you, Todd!
>>316828556
You have to follow the ayylmao blood trail to a cave nearby.
>>316828420
I just fucking hate that just because he doesn't like the talky side of RPGs, he has the audacity to buy up beloved IPs that have always featured that as equal to fighting, and completely remove the options that he isn't interested in. It's like he has no idea what the appeal of CRPGs even is.
>>316824437
also how your character mutters under their breath when you skip conversations.
>Hear about the Gunners
>Excited for Merc faction, maybe it'll be Talon Company done right
>Maybe I can join and be a mercenary!
>They're just reskinned raiders
I never knew that this game had Red Orchestra style shooting from cover in first person.
Pretty cool
>>316828605
Ah, thanks. Maybe I should have investigated more before venting on /v/
>>316828549
Well I said town, not city. Fucking hilarious how everyone was excited when they showed the market of Diamond City on the first reveal trailer, then that turned out to be the only bit of civilization you ever see in the entire game. There are actually LESS settlements than in Fallout 3, I didn't even think that was possible.
>>316825949
Aha! I knew he was up to some mischief I never helped him after I failed the speech check
>>316827473
>>316828050
I killed the raiders in beantown brewery and read about the hostage they took from Red Tourette's gang. Later when I went to clear out red Tourette's tunnels I read their account of the war they'd been having with Tower Tom and how someone went into Tom's compound and slaughtered them all.
Poor Lily..
>>316817808
I have never played a fallout game before.
Is the first one any good and if it isn't what one should I start with?
>raiders are grenade addicted robocops
Ftfy
>>316824437
This shit is golden, there is so much contextual dialogue in the game. I wish they had spent this amount of effort (or any effort at all) on story or dialogue options.
>>316829098
yeah fallout 1 and 2 are crpgs, if you like older games they are for you. 3 is shit tier, newvegas is acceptable with heavy modification, 4 is semi shit.
>>316829001
There's a terminal with his journal. He says the area is suitable as a good place to stop traders from and I recognized the area from trailers. It's where you nuke the raider in power armor.
>>316829098
Have you ever played old school, top down turned based RPGs? If no, it might be a bit of a shock, but Fallout 1 and 2 are universally accepted as classics, two of the best RPGs ever.
>>316827615
Buying them is the best way, just get level 3 fortune finder and you'll want to buy them just to have something to spend money on
>>316829098
>I have never played a fallout game before.
leave here and stop posting, we all know you are going to call fallout 1 and 2 total garbage because you are some young fucking casual spoiled by shitty modern games
>>316819616
I loved the batman arkham games for that. I don't know how many times I would.just sit.on a telephone pole or rooftop listening to conversations, it was some great world building
>built up Sanctuary Hills into a nice little town, 18 people.
>The original settlers still spend 90% of their time hammering away noisily at that house doing nothing, even if you assign them to be guards or shopkeepers they barely do it, too obsessed with noisy hammering
>No way to get rid of them other than sending Black Kaiden to another settlement.
>>316819458
I seriously had to reload 3 times just to hear all of that story without my companion alerting them. And then by the end I genuinely felt kind of angry and slaughtered them all.
But then I realized it was just a video game and a script written by someone in an office.
>>316829373
Fair enough, I really neglected all the Luck side of things.
>>316829464
Not all children are total plebs, some of them prefer old school games, you'd be surprised. You were underage b& once too.
>>316829464
What are you even going on about? All I want to do is try out games I haven't played because I'm bored of the current games these days.
>>316829982
What RPGs have you played?
>>316828824
Can you post a screen with the cave location, it flew over my head but I was fighting a behemoth nearby
It just works.
>In b4 'Are you running this on a toaster'
The answer is yes.
>>316830249
Sure. Cave to the left. It's near the coast line
>>316819420
I tried doing that on Curie and it didn't work ;-;
>>316830732
Or rather close to the river, there is no ocean there
Muh beachfront mansion settlement
spooked me outta my mind
>>316828790
Fucking this
Disgea is coming to Pc. Disgaea 5 will be on Pc soon enough you just wait. The PS4 sales have been too low not too port.
All the rebirth games on Pc, Megadimension Neptunia VII will be on Pc soon enough too.
PS4 owners btfo
>>316830413
I don't care bout your toaster, but why exactly did you paint fucking power armor red?
I get its meant to be much more common here than back in Vegas and DC, but painting it bright cherry red looks awfull mate, rare or not.
>>316830860
Do you guys ever get attacked? I'm lvl 40 and not a single chance to test out my pimped out defenses. One and only time I got attacked was an empty settlement did not build up so it was just mutant extermination.
>>316830413
Did you fuck with the character size or something?
>Keep giving Mama Murphy drugs
>She asks for Psycho
>Sure, here you go
>Oh, sight bla bla oh I should've seen this coming
>Dies
>Everybody in the settlement gathers around her body
>"Oh no, I should've seen this coming" "Oh no, I'm gonna need a moment" and so on.
At least I took her body and put it in her chair, poor old lady junkie.
>>316824985
There hasn't been a "Fallout" game in like 10 years.
>>316822794
>talk about expanding
I didn't know Dobson worked on FO4
Again, it's 200 years after the apocalypse. There ARE successful settlements, anyone who chooses not to help rebuild is criminal. That's how the setting works.
The one shot Beth had at doing something different was Tenpenny Towers but, yep, they fucked it.
>>316831004
is nepnep VII good ?
I mean i only played the first rebirth on pc and i couldnt go past chapter 3 when you get to nintendoland
shit is boring as fuck and the combat system is meh
how is VII better than rebirth 1 ? want to know, not trolling
>stroll the wasteland
>see legendary bloatfly in the distant
>sneak, aim, shoot, it explodes in one gorillion pieces thanks to bloddy mess
>on my way to its corpse get attack by hounds
>deal with them
>don't find the tiny pieces of my legendary bloatfly
>don't be able to loot my legendary piece of equipment
Thanks, Todd. At least the Witcher showed you on the minimap lootable corpses of enemies
>>316828556
So that's what crashed out of the sky. Piper said something about it but I somehow didn't see it at all. Have no idea where it crashed.
>>316831483
>be retarded
>thanks Todd
>>316817808
>not just tribes that have stuck together to form a community and survive in the harshness of the wasteland
Isn't that what you can build your own settlements for?
>>316819034
What are the Blades and the Gun Runners?
>>316831028
Painting it all red raises agility and I can't be bothered to change it to the paint scheme that raises damage resistance yet.
>>316831195
I tried to modify it at the station and the game froze me in place. Then I popped out with popped collars.
>>316817808
>not just tribes that have stuck together to form a community and survive in the harshness of the wasteland
Megaton, Diamond City, Tenpenny all fit that description
Also Raiders are tribes that stuck together to survive the harshness of the wastelands. They just use drugs to do it
Because they are raiders.
>>316831151
I believe that if your settlement's food and people are lower than your security you get atacked, otherwise they don't come.
Something long these lines.Its stupid but hey, Mods cause Bethesda gets a free pass.
>>316819034
>play fo2
>raider random event while traveling
>9/10 one of the raiders will use jet before attacking
mcfuckingdie
>>316820286
>>316820772
>>316825813
The only proper food analogy for gaming is basically this.
If someone cooks you dinner and it's not very good, but you're still hungry as hell, you'll eat it until you're stuffed.
However, if you were at a diner and got shitty food, you'd send it back.
Like with video games, you can pirate it because you're just "hungry" for something to play, play it and then perhaps mention it was pretty awful, but you needed to eat.
However, if you payed for the food, you'd get a refund because it wasn't as advertised.
>>316831151
Not yet, but even if I do I have turrets all around the perimeter so they wouldnt get very close.
Any tips on building settlements? Trying to do full perimeter walls but of course there are always spots where they don't line up.
Do I need to worry about there being multiple entryways or do attackers always come from the front?
>>316831739
>A random event including a RAIDING PARTY meant for attacking people for their resources is totally the same as their entire tribe outpost / camp
>Who are the blades, vipers, gunrunners, khans in fallout 1
Golly gee wizz, anon.
>>316831615
Wait a fucking second, you wot now.
Painting it red gives you agility?
Besides it being fucking stupid, why would you go for agility, one of the most useless stats in the game right after perception?
>>316828696
It's like Todd doesn't understand what RPG means. Fallout 4 isn't even an RPG anymore.
>>316831915
Pretty sure that's a "red makes it go faster" joke
>>316831814
The few times I've been attacked, they always go towards the one gate that I have.
>>316825038
>wearing power Armor
>trip a wire
>BOOM
>legs are nearly broken
>find the weapon
>bayonetted missile launcher
>mfw I have no face because phone posting
>>316831814
wait for mods to make it not shit
>>316831980
>>316831915
>what is Warhammer 40k
>>316831949
>Fallout 4 isn't even an RPG anymore
Not even remotely, but its a much better game than FO3
>>316831989
How do I deal with the radiation?
>>316832151
Scrap the barrels in the water.
>>316831151
I do get attacked by Super Mutants quite a lot now in my sttelment.
But since i kinda built it like Junktown with a fucking wall shacks around the whole parking lot and made a choke point with turrents, nothing gets inside.
Also i fucking hate how Super Mutants cant kill my settlers, whats the fucking point then
>>316831980
Huh.
Well,that would be neat, but I doubt it.Pretty sure Orks use a darker, much more pleasent shade of red.Shame no black and white taxi motif in it either.
>>316832094
>2011
>being a blood raven shitter
>Not being glorious imperial fist master race
>>316827615
You burn through fusion cores WAAAAY faster if you sprint. My cores last real time hours because I don't sprint.
>>316832219
>cant kill my settlers
Yep, that's stupid. On the other hand, if you don't help defend if you get the quest message thingie, you lose quite a few.
>>316832297
>Being the special snowflake spess muhreens
>>316832149
>Not even remotely, but its a much better game than FO3
I'd be impressed if it managed to be worse. FO3 failed as both a game and an entry in the fallout series. At least Fallout 4 manages to be entertaining on occasion, even if it shits on the corpse of the franchise.
The real shame to Fallout 4 is that it accurately predicts the future of TES VI. I can't wait to find out they've gutted skills entirely, so you only invest in HEALTH/STAMINA/MAGICKA and then grab perks.
>>316832297
>Not being an Ork wearin humie clothez.
>>316832472
Also i found a note on a super mutant that said.
>KILL
>LOOT
>RETURN
And i have a quest to stop Super Mutants from attacking some other settlements.
Guess that we Fallout 1 now, i love having my settlers in vault suits, only have girls and 1 black guy.
>Kill legendary raider
>Get this
T-thanks
>>316832597
>so you only invest in HEALTH/STAMINA/MAGICKA and then grab perks.
Isn't that how Skyrim is?
>>316832297
You seem to have mistyped Imperial Legion anon.
Its alright, but do be careful not to chose another cadre of pissants in armor instead of the awe inspiring every day man, devoted to the Imperium.
>>316832190
Fuck, really? I've fenced this whole pond
>>316832705
I'd much rather not be a meatshield that kills enemies by drowning them in my own men
>>316832690
My line of thinking was that at least skyrim maintained the illusion of progression, but I forgot the perks at the root of every tree that force you to invest into them to be fully competent in the skill you are using. It's stupid, and I am going to fucking weep for TES VI.
I always forget how it is in the vanilla game since I usually use SPERG, but you're absolutely right, it's basically the same thing.
So what's the best legendary item bonus in your opinion?
Personally haven't found much interesting yet, most useful was probably a Tommygun with +25 Poison damage over time. The shots stacked so I could kill things like Mirelurk Queen in half a magazine, the initial shots wouldn't do much damage, but the stacking posion would drain that bitch's HP bar like nothing else
>>316832912
At least I'll always haveOblivion
>>316819317
>he then sells the drugs unironically
But there are honest communities so it means it can be done raiders are just niggers who took the easy way because they are niggers
>>316832678
Aside from caps, is there a reason to invest in settlements?
It feels like a chore
Why not make a radio with Microsoft Sam that you can add .mp3 files too and he reads the title of the mp3...
>4 power armor variants
is this a joke ?
>Quest at the castle to reach the armory
>Rubble blocking the path
>Npc suggests explosives
>Quick save and try everything from mines to minibuses
>Nothing
>Solution was to just open the construction mode and scrap the Rubble in my way
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>316832498
But those aren't Space Wolves anon
also
>unironically being Imperial Meatshield
>unironically being a xeno
>unironically being a mutated chaos edgelord
>>316833362
How do you get caps out of a settlement?
>>316833362
No, it's completely pointless and that bummed me out
>>316822794
>hate newspapers
>>316831225
>mama murphy asks me to build her a chair
>pop open the window and there's a unique chair for her
>click to build it but some error message pops up saying i need to assign somebody to this or something
>option just bugs out and vanishes
>can never build her the chair
>mama murphy disappeared and i have never seen her at my camp ever again
>>316833821
> complaining that mama murphy is gone
m-muh sight
muh chems
>>316833821
She loved that chair, she sat in it until she died... Then when she was dead, I put her in the seat again.
I know that's what she'd wanted.
>>316824437
I loved this kind of shit makes me regret my PC is too shit to play. Sounds like a very immersive game.
>>316831645
Megaton, yes, let's increase our chances for survival by clinging to dud bomb.
So what's this scrap improvement thing you can build? I thought maybe I get stuff for my workbench from it but I can't use it and the NPC I assinged to it, isn't giving me free shit either. What gives?
>>316834304
And let some random wanderer fuck around with it from the instant he walks into the city
>>316832678
genius
>>316834304
>>316834436
you people only bitch about that because bethesda did it
if black isle had done a megaton esque city you fags would be going on about
>deepest lore
and
>lel classic quirky fallout humor
fuck off
What did Todd mean by this?
>>316834994
There's no humor to it in any way. Atomic bombs were the cause of the wasteland, the end of the world. Rather than have a healthy fear of the weapons that turned the world into hell they decide it'd be fun to settle around an active nuke and build weapons that fire small nuclear bombs.
It's just stupid
>>316835148
What did he mean by this?
>>316822794
When bethesda scrapped skills they were able to add more believable dialogue and more voice actors.
>>316832678
>Gun does radiation damage.
>ghouls are immune to radiation.
>unique version makes up for loss of damage to ghouls.
>>316833034
The best one I have BY FAR is this "martyr's" metal chest piece, it makes you go slow motion when you go under 25% health, it's saved my life so many times.
>>316832678
IT JUST WORKS
>>316829931
Surprisingly there are underages on fucking Doomworld forum
Is there any reason to play the harder mode in this game? It just seems like enemies become bullet sponges and the guns do less damage too. What is the point?
>>316836252
Kill yourself
>>316836549
You get more legendary mobs, and they drop legendary loot
>>316824985
Yeah, that's actually pretty true.
> Set backstory as a character (but Borderlands gives you 4 to choose from)
> A moderate number of base guns with a insane amount of variety through part swapping (except Borderlands you can't swap it yourself, there's just an abundance of guns with random parts)
> "Legendary" Weapons with unique effects (Borderlands does it better)
> Even a lot of the perks and effects of stuff are very similar, except Borderlands is much more creative and confidant in giving the player complex systems to make thier build.
>>316819106
>That one camp made of ex minute men that had to become raiders to survive
>The commander slowly loses his morals throughout his logs
>>316829232
>fallout 1 and 2 are crpgs
they're popamole shit, senpai
Okay, gotta say bethesda didn't completely fuck up on companions.
>clear out raider den #3034 because only the general of the minutemen can be bothered to keep the people safe apparently
>MacCready at my back, sniper to my shotgunning
>picking over loot
>hear clunking noises behind me
>pipes breaking?
>scripted sequence
>it's MacCready trying to kick open a master level safe
>go over a pick the lock myself
>"I-I would've gotten it eventually...good job though, gonna have to teach me that."
Can I have a harem in this game?
>all that effort to build some water purifier in FO3
>can just slap some together out of literal trash in FO4
>>316817808
>thinks tribals and raiders are the same
>bitching about lore when you don't even know it
>>316836965
>when you wipe them out, other raider groups mention it in their logs
>>316837149
>Hancock tries to help me ease the fridge boy into finding pit he's become a ghoul
It's the little things. Anybody who says this game is worse then fallout 3 or skyrim are factually wrong.
>>316837149
Companion dialog on the fly is great, only real problems I have overall with fallout 4 is the janky ass controls and even more retarded companion AI.
>>316831567
>killing an enemy
>retarded
Nice defense of FO4
Are there those ugly centaurs in this one?
>>316837301
in fallout 2 there was a vault with thousands of water chips falsely shipped to it. Finding a water chip was the main quest of the first game, and you were given a time limit to complete it.
>>316837301
>can just slap some together out of literal trash in FO4
Oh, yeah. Didn't think about that. You could line 50 purifiers up and down the the Potomac. I'm going to give them some credit and say it wouldn't have solved the shitty land issue like refreshed and radiation flushes water tables would. or something.
>>316837301
> can build fully automated turrets with some scrap and a circuitry board
Bethesda in charge of logic
>>316837149
MacCready is such a cunt. Every time I kill something he goes "Chalk up another kill for me!" or "Impressed yet?"
No, fag, you are literally worse than Piper.
>about to clear out raider nest
>they've all got names and engage in friendly banter
>>316817808
So what? You have the same motives killing them for their shit
Raiders should be like tribes in PVP servers in ARK; generally neutral until you start taking shit in their territory
>>316837301
I take it as them finally realizing that was retarded since mr handy's could also make purified water and 3.
>>316837883
> just turned around and left because I figured that named raiders would be related to some quest
>>316837519
Not that I've seen. Just mutated dogs.
>>316831801
That's stupid and you're stupid.
>>316829232
Not him but I have all the fallout games except 3 on steam. I have only played 3, new vegas and 4 and I want to get into the old ones.
Are there any recommended mods and/or tips for a first timer?
I just played a few minutes of the first two ones to feel how they were and there was an awful lot of clicking just like old games used to be. But I won't really mind it much if the story/lore and RPG elements are genuinely cool, like Planescape Torment is.
>>316838080
Fallout 4 has been good about that actually. In Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim (and all the other TES games actually) I've been playing with avoiding fucking up scripting in mind. If something looks important for later, avoid it.
So far, I've been able to say I've already done x for y quest. Having no broken quests sitting in my log is a big deal for a bethesda (and obsidian) title.
>>316837883
Works for me. I am literally genocidal and I wish I can kill everyone in this game.
Genocide mod when? Call me Edgy McEdgyton
>>316836538
Like 90% of the zandronum online community is underaged, which is a massive surprise to me
>>316837301
You could say the FO3 purifier tech has spread and improved in 10 years, but I'm pretty sure The Castle has a purifier that was there when it was abandoned years before FO3 is set.
>>316838038
There's a lot of things in the game that go back on the dumb shit in 3, like the BoS going back to what they should be like.
>hear race track commentary
>sounds like fun lets check it out
>instantly get attacked on sight
>have to murder everyone in self defense
>at some point the commentator stops talking and starts shooting
>all i wanted to do was gamble
>watch robots run in circle then leave
>>316838410
>Everyone shitting on elder lyons for almost tearing the brotherhood apart by trying to play the nice guy
I love it. Asshole brotherhood is best brotherhood.
>>316837145
They are about as CRPG as it gets fuccboi.
>>316828790
This , there is literally no reason for them to be hostile to you by default , you should be able to join , work for them or atleast hire their mercs
>>316834034
>Mama Murphy asks me to build her a fucking chair
>I'm the goddamn vault dweller, I'm not building you a fucking chair
>Get a job and build your own chair, you methhead bitch
>that junkie asks me to build her a chair again
> ~ setessential 0
> shoot that junkie prick in the face
> i'm not building you a fucking chair
What's your favorite side quest so far? Mine is the one with Drinkin' buddy.
>>316838891
> missing out on quest xp and dialogue because he can't be assed to press a few buttons
Faaaaaaaag
>>316838835
Same experience for me.
>wandering the wastes
>see large compound with some guards who aren't wearing rags
>assume they are a friendly town, approach
>they agro me
Apparently it was a suicide cult since I murdered them all.
>Cars explode
>No one can figure out how to turn one on or fix one, or make a new one
>>316839198
With high charisma/high level you really should just no longer aggro Raiders by default. Even if they just stood around and had no unique dialogue itd be better than this shit.
Within a few days mods will make this game twice as good.
>>316837149
>Travel with Hancock at night
>He suddenly says ''Did you hear that?''
>Crouch and look around
>''Yeah me neither''
What a fucking dick
>>316838990
He's doing gods work.
>>316838178
Play with some realistic damage mod and more armor slots
>>316838953
i dont think i have one, they all suck shit
>>316839258
>No one can figure out how to turn one on or fix one, or make a new one
They could. There are working vehicles. Maybe no one in the east sees the point of land vehicles.
>>316819106
>>316836965
I also love how the alert dialogue has changed if you disappear during combat.
In the other FPSouts they use the default "Must be the wind" dialogue after you shoot a few people and disappear, now they say things like "Must be using a Stealth Boy". I appreciate it.
>>316817808
Ironic that Todd and others at Bethesda have probably played more of Fallout 1+2 than you ever have.
Not to mention raiders feel more fleshed out in this game compared to 3.
You can read/listen to logs from Raiders who got their shit pushed in by Super Mutants and Ghouls.
I went to some town that was taken over by Super Mutants and there's loads of dead raiders around, they had a community but got rekt.
There's a journal you find in a subway that's overrun by ghouls that used to have raiders just trying to survive.
>>316837149
MacCready is a bro, which is surprising considering how much of a little cunt he was as a kid
>>316839258
There are no usable roads/everywhere is completely covered with junk on the east coast. On the west some people have carts. The Brotherhood have Vertibirds, obviously.
>>316838953
Silver Shroud
>oh hey there's a radio station
>guy talking mentioned he heard rumours of someone come out of Vault 111
>>316839760
>in 200 years nobody thought it would be a good idea to clear the roads so they could use vehicles for more efficient trading
>>316839747
He mentioned he was from Little Lamplight but HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T REALISE HE WAS IN FALLOUT 3.
Fuck I have no recollection at all of any characters from there, or anything about that places other than the fairy lights and that legendary screencap of that post about it.
>>316839736
>I went to some town that was taken over by Super Mutants and there's loads of dead raiders around, they had a community but got rekt.
>There's a journal you find in a subway that's overrun by ghouls that used to have raiders just trying to survive.
But fallout 3 does this too.
>>316839973
Between the heavy initial radiation, semi-tribalism, rampaging, small settlements, those who prey on small settlements, larger factions doing all they can to keep what's theirs theirs, and mutant animals only getting stronger in addition to super mutants and ghouls going feral, at what point do you think any faction in boston could have cleared, repaired, maintained, and defend the roads?
>>316840447
When the minutemen were at their peak.
>>316829031
I did it the other way around and the Beantown guys were relieved that someone else took care of Red.
>>316821212
That was how I killed the courser. He fell down several floors through that hole in the middle of the room. Someone asked how I was able to kill a courser and I couldn't help but laugh remembering it.
>>316817808
I've found its 1 of 3 things.
>A group following a charismatic leader like the forged.
>A group of lazy fucks that just don't want to have to do any work and just kinda fell into raiding like the former minutemen.
>A group of elitist fucks that think they are just better then you like the gunners.
The only group I would say were chem psychos were the ones at the plant from the first minutemen quest and they fall under the first category. Their leader wanted to harness the sight for his own use.
>>316840496
We don't know what their peak looked like. Safe settlements and trade routes doesn't mean "alright, let's start rebuilding".
It could've been all they were capable of to maintain the castle, patrols, response teams, and stationed minutemen in settlements.
If they fractured after one major loss, I doubt they were ever as powerful as you'd need a rebuilding faction to be.
>>316839580
>>316839760
>can't make a road out of desolate land
It's stupid on all levels. Almost as stupid as people building inferior sheet metal shacks in Diamond City.
They had to build those shitty looking sheet metal shacks. Everyone in fallout 3-4 is a retard.
Compare Diamond City to Vault City. No one knows how to do anything, and are just happy living in ruined trailers and one room sheet metal sheds. It's retarded.
>>316828745
If you press different buttons to skip you get different dialogue
the hate newspapers button can make you say something like "shut up you old man"
>>316840496
Their peak couldn't have been that great if mire lurks destroyed them
>>316829464
>n-no please don't play my niche turn-based nerd game I might kill myself if anyone else realizes it's shit :'(
>>316840940
I'm not talking about EVERY road, just main roads connecting settlements.
>>316822794
Didn't Skyrim do this with bandits? Or is this to a new level?
>>316832912
>sperg
GOAT mod
>>316831004
Wrong thread, Dumass
>>316833717
That's part of a really bad intro to a really good and endearing character. Piper's dialogue past that moment is some of the best in Bethesda Fallout.
