Fuck it. I give up.
I was enjoying DD and doing fine untill Grand Soren. I struggled with some of the main quests so far and was quite annoyed. After that I started doing any and all side quests I found in Grand Soren. Every fucking thing now just kicks my ass and I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Party members are essentially uselessYes I noticed that my pawns don't level up and changed them. Healing means fucking nothing because your maximum HP lowers too. Unless I spend money on potions but it just drains all of my money. And who the fuck wants to open a inventory screen in mid fight all the time? You can't even take fights slowly because your party members start to die at some point and reviving them takes all the time.
I figured I was too low on levels or something and tried to get back to the first town and see if I missed any quests. I can't even get back. Some bandits on the way just wreck my shit. I'm seriously thinking I'm doing something wrong.
What gives? Or is it just a bad game?
kill yourself faggot
If you want EZ mode switch to Strider or Ranger and buy a whole bunch of explosive arrows.
>>316806939
No, seriously. Give me tips or fucking anything. Even Dark Souls didn't give me this much of a hard time because I always knew what I did wrong. Here, I have no clue. Better gear? Farm fucking goblins for levels?
>>316807127___________________________________________________________kill yourself_______________
>>316807127
What are you playing as and what is your level?
>>316807230
Strider level 15
>>316807127
What gears are you currently using?
>>316806831
>Healing means fucking nothing because your maximum HP lowers too.
Restoratives.
>all of my money
How shit are you? You can literally swim in dosh right away. I can play solo without a mage and still not run out of cash.
> start to die at some point and reviving them takes all the time.
What? Just walk over them and hit revive.
>I figured I was too low on levels or something and tried to get back to the first town and see if I missed any quests. I can't even get back. Some bandits on the way just wreck my shit. I'm seriously thinking I'm doing something wrong.
Wait, you're seriously having problems with the highway bandits (and not the boulder pass bandits)?
GIT FUCKING GUD
>>316807316
Can't remember really. I know I bought almost a full set of new gear from Grand Soren because I thought that was my problem. I don't think it helped me at all. I also found some in the main quest where you needed to check the dungeon below Grand Soren.
>>316806831
>drains all of my money
I don't understand how that's possible.
>>316807293
If you want to level up quicker don't take as many pawns with you.
Daggers are shit unfortunately from my experience, so you should probably just use your bow for the time being and have a tank pawn to aggro everything for you.
Maybe I'm just bad, but daggers really haven't been a good experience for me. I could always switch to another weapon and do more damage with it. Hell, my pawn with a great sword out damages daggers.
>>316807372
I've had like 10k cash max. Although I've already used it all on restoratives and gear.
Reviving party members is useless because they are going to die in the next hit anyway.
I'm dying to the bandits in the same route where the escort mission happened before Grand Soren. It's a ambush or something because I'm getting a new quest everytime I go there.
>>316807293
At this point you should have skull splitter, the most damaging skill in the game. I don't know what your problem is. The yellow vocations are the strongest in the game.
>>316807665
You wanted to take the shortcut, right? Those bandits are pretty strong early in the game, but I don't see why you can't just turn around and take the long route.
>>316807665
Which system are you on and which version of the game? If you're PSN + Dark Arisen I can add you and share my pawn with you. He's around level 30 I think and mostly just a meat shield. It would get you going enough until you're in a good spot.
>>316807665
>Reviving party members is useless because they are going to die in the next hit anyway.
Are you playing on Hard or something?
>>316807642
>Daggers are shit
>instant reset is shit
>dodging is shit
>thousand kisses is shit
>skull splitter is shit
You're shit
>Maybe I'm just bad
Yes you are
But seriously, daggers are fucking amazing, especially for strider.
>scholar's coat
>leather chestgaurd
>laced leggings
Bueno
>>316808014
Normal
play hard mode
never have money troubles again
God damn, I can't wait till January when we FINALLY get DA for PC. Unless Capcom totally botches the port, it's gonna be fucking amazing to play with a steady frame rate at a non-shit resolution.
>>316808118
Have you been buying and upgrading your skills?
Have you been upgrading your weapons/armour?
I can't fathom why you are having such a hard time
>>316808118
I'm pretty sure you're exaggerating then. I'm normally level 10 when I get to Gran Soren and pretty much no enemy kills me or my pawns in one hit unless it's the bolder bandits or the well sauriens.
>>316808015
>not reading what I typed
I never said that the abilities are shit. I guess I'll recap it for you.
>I could always switch to another weapon and do more damage with it. Hell, my pawn with a great sword out damages daggers.
I've been on assassin since level 10 and all of the daggers that I've found have been terrible damage. I can sit on an ogres face and spam thousand kisses, doesn't even compare to my greatsword pawn.
>>316806831
You are just bad at it.
>>316808146
>guy has trouble with normal mode and is clearly new to DD
>duhh just play on hard
Fucking idiot
here's some tips for ya
always carry ferrystones with you, you can use them to go back to gran soren, cassardis plus whatever teleport crystal you've placed
you can buy them at the black cat, explore the city
if you can't win a fight, leg it
yellow vocations can dodge, abuse that shit
I assume you're doing the grimoire quest, just run past the bandits
seriously, they're leagues above you right now
>>316808230
Yes to both. I just checked a certain quest on youtube that I'm having trouble with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzSolwk_0jE
How the fuck does he have that much health? I'm not nearing even 1k, And I'm doing next to no damage to the troll in that video too.
>>316808118
Then it's completely unbelievable that your pawns aren't just carrying you honestly, unless you're going up against chimeras/dragons/lizardmen too early. Which enemies are you having trouble with? Fucking BANDITS? GOBLINS? Seriously??
The only excuse would be if you went to the witch woods early and met the bandits there. They're pretty hard, but they're not on the way to gran soren.
Also:
>I started doing any and all side quests I found in Grand Soren
Generally a bad idea, since the game will be too easy after a while. (Remember that board quests are generated infinitely, you'll never run out.)
But seriously, WHERE are you having issues? And with which enemies? If a certain area feels too hefty for you, you ought to try someplace else. But honestly, if you just follow the main quest, you will never have this issue.
>>316808447
>How does he have that much health
He's level 95. I assume you're not level 95. He went into that side quest very late in the game. The sword one of his pawns is using is one of the original best weapons in the game.
>>316808487
Goblins are fine. Anything else kicks my ass.
Here is an example of a quest
>>316808447
>>316808568
Read the other reply to that second post.
>>316808272
>I never said that the abilities are shit
Abilities are tied to weapons. Besides, baseline daggers are fine as well.
>all of the daggers that I've found have been terrible damage
Well there you go, it's because of terrible weapon quality, not weapon type. Helm splitter in particular does ridiculous amounts of damage. (Though as an assassin, you don't have access to that.)
For what it's worth, I find bow/sword assassin to be a lot of fun, but daggers are undeniably more versatile. Only advantage to sword would be the damage of dire gouge.
>>316808447
What pawn setup are you using? Given your troubles I would advise you to have a mage, fighter and another of your choice - you can always look for some twink pawns to carry you if need be (just look for pawns wearing overly fancy armours)
Also ogres are quite high level enemies, if you're finding an area hard try doing quests in a different area, e.g have you been to the witchwood yet?
If you want to use healing items, stock up up on flasks amd head to a spring to fill them up. They're a party wide heal and the best thing to be carrying around until BBI when you just stop giving a fuck about your pawns health because you can load everyone down with as many herbs as you need. As far as bows go, it's slim picking early game. Just try and keep whatever you have on hand upgraded from the guy in grand soren. Best armor you can get early is the berserk set in the shortcut cave, but killing ogres early is a time consuming bit of work. Well worth it though.
>first time playing
>Big ass knight with loli support mage
>tfw well oiled rape machine
Nothing personal kid
>>316808718
Mage, 2x Fighter.
But that's the thing. I can't get anywhere. I'll just die.
I guess I'll just admit that I suck at the game. Even fucking Dark Souls was easier.
>>316808568
If ogres are your problem, try to get some arrows that cause sleep. You should be able to buy some in Gran Soren.
>>316806831
Git gud
>>316807665
Alright, there is a quest in Cassardis to 24 bats. Go down in the sewer and kill them, go back to the inn and rest till morning and repeat. That'll net you like 60000. Then, buy new shit and avoid things if you feel like you can't fight it. You don't have to kill everything that moves just yet.
>>316808908
Go sorcerer, mage and sorcerer or ranger. Melee pawns can end up dumb as hell most of the time, and die quicker than ranged ones.
>>316808908
don't worry, it gets easier
dragon's dogma is a more traditional rpg than dark souls, in the sense that your level actually matters
you'll bust your ass to kill an ogre now, but by the end the game you'll be fucking up chimeras left and right
the rule of thumb is if it one shots you, run
>>316808908
I guess you do just suck. I can't fathom why you're having so much trouble.
I mean, there were roadblocks I ran into when I played the game, but nothing like this.
>>316808908
Well anon, when you begin to experience catastrophic failure at the core mechanics of an RPG, that is usually a sign to start completely over from scratch.
You are missing fundamentals and should just make a new character to learn how to be good.
>>316808908
you can always grind up some levels, enemies damage and health a static so things will only get easier
Obviously later enemies have more hp/damage, so just give yourself a few more levels
Go to cassardis and the encampment and take evey quest that isn't an escort. You'll fulfill them without trying and they give you shitty weapons to sell. If you've already done all those quests, you're just gonna have to git gud
>>316808447
>>316808568
Yeah, that ogre can be a bit tough if you don't know what you're doing. You just gotta whittle it down and be cautious. But you could also just ignore him for now and go on with the main missions, returning later when you're stronger.
Generally speaking, if you die horribly against some monster that just seems too strong for you, move to another area/quest and come back later. I think a lot of people expect Oblivion-style level scaling to be in effect in their RPGs, but DD doesn't adhere to this at all. Some areas are just death zones if you get there unprepared.
Here are some general tips for enemies:
Lizardmen = cut their tails off
Harpies = use a bow
Ogre = focus on defense, you won't be able to burst him down
Drake = for the majority of the game, just run. Otherwise focus on his weak spot and beware of his tail
Ghosts = need magic or weapon buffs
Wolves = hunts in packs (no, i mean just knock them over)
Undead = weak to fire
Chimera = kill snake, goat and lion, in that order
Bandit = wildcard, hard to tell their power level. But generally just try to keep them ganging up on you.
>>316808908
you can do it anon!
I'm rooting for you
>>316808908
Not sure if it helps, but you ought to think of the game less as dark souls and more like devil may cry. The combat system is a lot more similar to the latter.
>>316806831
I think the real problem is needing to git gud, and don't take that as being mean. Strider is seriously strong and you should have a dodge roll by now. If you find yourself trapped in animations, just use Reset, a skill whose only use is canceling for combos. Also, don't be afraid to CHANGE CLASSES in Gran Soren. If you're having trouble, maybe Strider isn't the best class to be playing. Go Fighter to get some max HP.
Pro Tip: Your stats as you level up are based around what class you were when you leveled up. You get more max hp as the red classes, among other things like strength for example.
>>316808838
>loli support mage
Great job being an unoriginal fuck.
>want to get a healer pawn for my team
>loli
>loli
>loli
>loli
>bald tribal faggot
>loli
>loli
>>316809432
Should have stuck to Skyrim kiddo.
I remember my fighter pawn, used to always encourage him to sit there and bang that shield, while my loli arisen jumped on their faces and stabbed them to death, when I get it on pc he'll be banging that drum once more.
>>316809526
What does this have to do with what I wrote?
>>316809416
I don't have dodge nor reset. I changed my class to Mysticknight, bought new gear and noticed that it isn't for me.
That took all my money and points to level up mt character. It just feels like I'm stuck because everything kills me.
Maybe I should start the game over.
>>316809432
>time to get a new pawn!
>loli
>casca
>casca
>casca
>guts
>casca
>guts
>casca
>casca
>big breasted slut
>loli
>casca
>guts
OP, you can also try and see if there are new weapons to buy. They're all just linear upgrades, and can help immensely as lower-tier weapons simply don't penetrate enemies armor at all.
>>316809416
>If you find yourself trapped in animations, just use Reset
This man know what he's talking about. Reset/instant reset is a seriously underrated skill. It's almost hard to go back to other weapons once you're used to it.
>maybe Strider isn't the best class to be playing
Agreed. It certainly isn't hard, but fighter is a lot more traditional. If he wants easy-mode, he might wanna go MA though. Good to have a ranged weapon, can be frustrating for melee only characters.
>>316809207
You should add, certain elements just cripple the fuck out of them.
Lizard- ice
Ogre/troll - shock is preferable, fire works too
Drake- depends on the drake
Wolves- Pretty sure it was fire (and they travel in packs)
Chimera- burns real nice
Undead/ghosts- holy or fire
Bandit- fire
>>316806831
try git gud
>>316809432
I have a beautiful tall brown elf amazon as my support mage pawn :3c
She looks pretty exotic with the caster gear you get from UD, like the veil.
>>316806831
wolves hunt in packs OP
>>316809526
Loli-fags everyone.
>>316806831
Try going around things that easily kill you, you dumb kek
>>316809647
>no brown elves
Did we play the same game?
>>316809632
MK is boring as balls, and fucks your performance on the poor specs of last-gen consoles. (It can be very strong though, if you know the broken skills.)
But yeah, MA is a lot easier/versatile. If you're more of a sword and board kind of guy, go fighter. Very easy to play, and gets super-fucking-strong, but may be a bit boring to some. Also shares most gear with MK, so you don't have to buy new shit.
>>316809614
>>316809820
Said it was my first time playing didn't know loli triggered everyone. Since it does I'll make all my future pawns lolis too.
>>316809925
>MK
>boring as balls
Fuck you and your garbage fucking opinion.
>>316809702
Right, but at the start, you don't have access to such "advanced tactics", especially if you're a class like strider. I'm mostly talking early game since he's not very far yet.
I'd say he should pick a mage pawn with anodyne, halidom and fire weapons. (Fire works well against nearly all early enemies. Lizards are EZ as long as you target the tails.)
>>316806831
Get past level 20. That's it. Everything becomes infinitely easier once you break 20.
But honestly if you're just too lazy to heal yourself or revive your pawns there's really no advice that's going to help you here.
You lack the bare fundamentals for success.
>Play game enjoying the shit out of it
>Get to Grand Soren
>Cool city but it's pretty small
>Stick around leveling up and doing some quests
>this shit is fun but time to move on
>explore a bit
>not really any quests out there
>Go back to everywhere i had been
>confused as shit
>The map must be huge if i've only discovered Grand Soren by now
>Do a few more quests that don't even feel like main quests anymore i am spying on king sex and shit idk how this helps slay a dragon but whatever
>after hours more of playing and no new city found i go online
>Grand Soren IS the city
>It is the main city, the only city, the main hub of everything, no other big cities, this is the world
>i will never find another city hub to chill at with a different atmosphere
>just running back and forth the same roads only to return to this... city.
>Turned game off and never returned
I loved the hell out of the game, but could never accept the fact that this was the only settlement in the game apart from the first two.
>>316810025
Wow, you're such a rebel!I don't even play this game any more, but go ahead and waste your time.
You don't have to fight everything in your path.
Stick with ranged attacks if you're getting one shotted by bandits.
Maybe do some levels as Warrior(at least 10) to get some physical defense and more health.
>>316810030
I have to agree. You're either recasting buffs or smacking glowing balls. Perfect blocking can be satisfying though (although you also have to buff for that.
Never played DD, going to buy it for PC though. Should I play on hardmode from the start? I'm not shit at games and am willing to bash my head against one enemy for hours on end until I'm git gud enough to beat him if I must.
Or will I run into bullshit I won't get past at all? Is it more enjoyable on normal?
>>316810209
Then don't look how much stuff was cut out of this game. It'll break your heart.
>>316809632
>I changed my class to Mysticknight
My favorite class man, so fun. Mystic Knight is a power house of fuck you. I never even used the cannon skills people rave about but arguably the most powerful skill in the game. Shield enchants make the game 2ez. Go do some easy quests for some money, but if you feel starting the game over is best then it may just be. I would suggest starting out as fighter if you do so. Personally, I never like to go to an advanced/hybrid class before I max out the basic one. Getting a lot of early levels in Fighter will give you a good base health pool to go into the other classes without dying too easily.
My first 50 some odd levels were in Fighter and Mystic Knight, so when I NG+'d the game as Strider I came out like pic related, but doing sick flips and shit with daggers and a 2k health pool.
>>316806831
Level up, get better equipment, venture out prepared.
DD doesn't hold your hand and expects you to strain your brain a little.
>>316810030
It is though. No action, just preptime, preptime, preptime.
>OLOL HAVEING SO MUCH FUN REBUFFING HOLY SHIT xDD
I know abyssal anguish is broken as fuck, and grand cannon can be good, but they require so much time just casting shit while being nowhere near as spectacular as anything on sorc. Also, the shield parry looks retarded and has an annoying delay to deal with, even though it's good if you get it right.
I'll give you sky dance though, that skill is aweome
>>316810290
Hard mode is not fun.
>>316810273
>>316810346
I made a thing of using Stone Forest / Jungle and perfect blocks with a proper elemental buff.
People say that Stone Forest is bad, but they have no idea what they're talking about. The stagger on the spell is real and deals great damage if your magic is high.
>>316810209
Which games are you comparing it to? I thought gran soren was rather nice for an open-world RPG. I mean, compare to fucking elder scrolls, where every "big city" is smaller than god damn Cassardis.
I'd love more cities of course, but it's not like you're gonna spend that much time there.
>>316810290
The best would be to play hardmode on a fresh character after you got bored of the main game. Else the increased difficulty combined with the fact that you don't know what enemies you will face will really fuck you up.
The start of the normal game is already quite challenging.
>>316810432
Even if your magic isn't high, Stone Forest is useful as fuck. Annoying ass harpies? Channel that shit and release when they flock to mess your day up. Stunned for eternity while you spank their asses into oblivion.
>>316810290
I'd go with normal first, as long as you don't overlevel the game can be quite challenging.
The problem is that the game definitely isn't "level 1 naked run" capable, like Dark Souls is. Certain enemies will fuck you up if you're undergeared/leveled, and you'll have to spend like an hour straight fighting the same enemy to whittle him down.
On the other hand, some people swear by hard mode. It's definitely doable, but I can't recommend it for a first run.
>>316810290
Hearing that hard mode increases the stagger and knockdown threshold on enemies was enough to make me never play it. It would make Warrior even less effective and unfun.
>>316810814
>increases the stagger and knockdown threshold on enemies
oh that's a weird way to make it harder
I definitely wanted to play warrior first, I think I'll be playing on normal, thanks
>>316810942
That's not all it does. Makes them hit harder and also gives them more HP, iirc.
Also, you get metric fuck tons of XP and gold.
>>316806831
You suck dick fag.
I never even used a potion until I got to Bitterback Isle and then only on the fuck huge bosses.
A mage pawn that you borrow with that restore shit is plenty to keep you going until you're done with whatever you set out to do assuming you don't suck complete dick (so you don't qualify I guess).
Bandits may rape your face but animals and wolves should be easily killable until you can handle bandits (which isn't that hard assuming you didn't run straight for them right out of the gate).
What class are you anyways? I can't imagine you getting raped so hard if you're a ranged or mage class so I'm guessing you're a melee class with no ability (as a person) to dodge attacks or maneuver around things.
Anyways, don't forget to give up and kill yourself.
>>316810209
See pic if you want to suffer.
That was the only major gripe with the game, I loved everything else, it felt refreshing, the beginning made you feel like an adventurer who gets his shit pushed in by a stale fart, aimed vaguely in your direction
But every almost every encounter can be won if you are persistent
Some of the most fun I had in games was during my first-playthrough, venturing out into the lands at level 10 and fights lasting mutliple in-game days.
It was wonderful, I hope people get to enjoy this shit, I feel like most of the problems that some people seem to have stems from DD not taking your hand, and I love that.
>>316810290
Oh god yes you should. Normal mode is so easy by midgame you're just absolutely steamrolling everything. I did that for my first playthrough aalnd shelved it for a year before beating it. Easy is really, really easy. Hardmode is much more balanced, and stays that way mostly until you hit BBI, which isn't effected by mode and is hard as hell retardless. Hardmode does two things that are nice: you get gobs of money, and you'll actually die a time or two. The catch is, you will be one shot at the start, but with infinite paused menu healing it's the only way to add challenge.
>>316810814
I played warrior like 40% my first playthrough on hard and hardly noticed that. Just get the augments.
>>316810814
>>316810726
>>316810525
>tfw first time in Chamber of Fate on vanilla DD
My anus was not prepared for that shit. I don't think anything came close to that, even at BBI (perhaps some of the garm fuck-you death squads, or elder ogres assuming no MA)
>>316806831
>Can't kill bandits
just wait until yo have to fight literally anything else.
maybe try a different vocation? Try leveling as fighter for a while to build some HP. Spam compass slash gg
>>316810814
I did this for some time. After I killed the snake and the mercedes, the lion was almost immune to knockdown. Most painful experience I had with this game. Took me more tries than I could count, just jumping light attacking all day. His simple pawn attack was almost an instant kill, but I didn't wear much armor.
But on the same day, after I got me some arc of deliverance I killed the chimera with one hit after the snake and the goat were killed. Really strange.
>>316806831
>I figured I was too low on levels or something and tried to get back to the first town and see if I missed any quests. I can't even get back. Some bandits on the way just wreck my shit. I'm seriously thinking I'm doing something wrong.
I assume these bandits you're talking about are the ones near Cassardis, they're pretty easy actually, just learn to prioritize targets. Take out the ranged ones first, the mages especially. Since you're a Strider, you might want to find vantage points, like on top of a broken wall or something and use ranged attacks if you're having trouble with close combat
If all else fails, just run away. This is one of the games where you need to know when to do that, you seriously don't want to fight a Wight with shit level and equipment.
Also do some quest, level up and get better equipment.
>>316810942
Be aware that warrior only has access to 3 skills at the same time (which is universally agreed upon by the player base to be bullshit)
It's really fun once you master arc of deliverance, but it can get a bit repetitive. I'd advise you to try a few different classes and see what you enjoy.
>>316810290
Hardmode is intended for people who already have played through the game, people in the 80lv and up.
It increases enemy damage and money dropped
It's literally
>DOSH DOSH DOSH
the mode
Play on normal, play smart, as if you were an weak ass fucboi adventurer who has to choose his battle carefully.
>and am willing to bash my head against one enemy for hours on end
You want have any problems as long as you fight smart, and find out about enemy weaknesses.
Keep your weapons upgraded.
>>316806831
>I'm seriously thinking I'm doing something wrong.
Meh.
The game is at it's hardest at lower levels. The world doesn't level with you so once you start getting up there you'll begin obliterating everything in your way. You just have to get their first.
If you're looking for a cheap way to proceed, add someone from here as a friend on PSN/XBL whatever then download their pawn for free. A high level pawn will pretty much carry you through the base game, so you don't need to worry as much. It'll give you a bit more space to go at your own pace.
It's just important to remember that enemies of all types will kick your ass at low levels and especially if you run in like an absolute madman.
Do plenty of side quests back in the early regions and, if need be, run past any enemies without engaging them. Sometimes you just need to get somewhere.
>>316811153
Forgot pic. This was the first time I've ever seen the chimera eating me.
>>316811094
>>316811015
shit, now I'm conflicted
beating an enemy that would one-shot me and gaining a buttload of XP would be really rewarding
>>316811230
oh I've been arcofdeliverancing in other games and I love getting the timing right and slamming enemies mid-charge or something, even if it takes a couple of tries to get right
I'll definitely also play other classes somewhere down the line though
>>316811328
thanks for the tips
>>316811019
Read the thread.
>>316811032
>fights lasting mutliple in-game days
Those are always fun. I remember encountering a golem as a sorcerer and having to punch him to death because lol magic immune. Took me 2 in-game days. (I used a few high bolides as well though)
>>316811094
>Normal mode is so easy by midgame you're just absolutely steamrolling everything
Because you're overleveled. I won't disagree that the game has scaling issues, but ignore side-quests and it has a nice enough difficult curve.
>>316810290
You'll get one shotted a lot for a while but you make more money and get more exp so you end up stronger earlier. Enemies will refuse to stagger and never react to your attacks though.
>>316811230
>which is universally agreed upon by the player base to be bullshit
I'm probably the only one that will eagerly defend this.
>>316811586
Go ahead, try.
>>316806831
Make your main pawn a healer so you don't have to keeMake your main pawn a healer so you don't have to keep replacing her. Make sure you have a fighter pawn with you to take aggro. 3rd pawn should be pure DPS. Make sure to read pawn descriptions to make sure you get the right inclination (eg not guardian). Make sure you have alMake your main pawn a healer so you don't have to keep replacing her. Make sure you have a fighter pawn with you to take aggro. 3rd pawn should be pure DPS. Make sure to read pawn descriptions to make sure you get the right inclination (eg not guardian). Make sure you have all your abilities learned. For strider, several abilitil your abilities learned. p replacing her. Make sure you have a fighter pawn with you to take aggro. 3rd pawn should be pure DPS. Make sure to read pawn descriptions to make sure you get the right inclination (eg not guardian). Make sure you have alMake your main pawn a healer so you don't have to keep replacing her. Make sure you have a fighter pawn with you to take aggro. 3rd pawn should be pure DPS. Make sure to read pawn descriptions to make sure you get the right inclination (eg not guardian). Make sure you have all your abilities learned. For strider, several abilitil your abilities learned. Strider has several abilities that have knockdown. Use them, and shoot the guy when he's down. Buy explosive arrows if you can. Other than that, git good.
>>316811741
Holy shit, what a mess of a post. Oh well, the points stand. Don't be shit
My only problem is that until BBI the enemy design is pretty boring for the most part.
Chimeras were sick but you're introduced to them right at the start. A lot of the enemies you fight are just bandits or wolves or golbins. I was expecting more fights like the Griffin but they never came.
Shame because a sequel could be really, really good.
>>316811586
Y tho? Mage/Sorcerer gets 6 and they have a 2h weapon as well
>>316811491
>Venture out into the west
>Ha, wolves
>Oh, these bandits are managable, that guy with the sword is rushing towar- dead
>Venture deeper more bandits
>And some more plus a Cyclops
>Deeper in
>Chimera
>Drake
>Go down to the cliffs, see some boxes and start throwing them around
>As the box hits a rock it starts moving
>Shit my pants and started to believe that I pissed it off
I loved every second of that journey as well as getting royally fucked
>>316811491
High glicle or whatever can hit those too iirc
>>316811153
>Fighting the horror that is known as a Chimera with only its Lion head remaining, for the first time
>>316811707
We had this yesterday until the thread died due to hitting bump limit.
But to make it short: warrior is not about having option.
>>316811896
Having only three skills would really fuck up those vocations.
>>316810209
I wish they hadn't cut the city in the mountains that Savan and the DragonForged was from. Shit was awesome.
>>316811816
>why aren't regular enemies like bosses? :(
>>316812101
Nice strawman. My point is most of the game you're just fighting the same boring enemies. Golbins aren't fun to fight, neither are wolves or bandits, but they're most of the game.
Taking down something like a Cyclops is sweet but the game needed more of these kind of enemies rather than just very small alterations to existing enemies.
>>316811968
Yeah, but didn't have it with me. I honestly didn't expect a golem, or I would've got MA or something.
>>316812080
>warrior is not about having option.
But that's boring.
Everyone has to do a staff and shield MK run through vanilla at least once.
>Perfect block bitches for effects
>Can cast AA on your staff
>Won't get knocked down
>Motherfucking Brontide everything
Gets much harder in BBI where your spells won't really cut it, but in vanilla through the everfall, it is fucking RAD.
>>316811491
I didn't do that many sidequests, that's the thing. Everything just gets really wonky past the hunt questline. Hardmode just seemed much better scaled. The paused healing, and encouraged paused healing at that with the wound system just breaks the game. I would be the happiest person alive if they managed to implement real time item use for the pc release.
>>316811585
Enemies still react to some attacks at least. They still stagger on fire/lightning or freeze on ice, and I don't remember having any issues whacking things around as a warrior, though I did switch to that about level 20 last time I played, and it has been awhile.
>>316812245
Dude, learn what a strawman is. Try to read between the lines.
What you're saying is basically that you'd like more boss-like enemies (like cyclops, gryphons and chimeras) and less regular enemies (like goblins, bandits and undead)
Point is, they wouldn't be very exciting to fight if you met them as often as regular enemies.
Also, I disagree, I think regular enemies can be fun to fight as well. I wouldn't mind more huge enemies of course, but it's not a flaw I'd hold against the game to include more mundane enemies to create some contrast.
>>316812250
That's your problem. I found mastering the few options you have very fun. Suffering through BBI as warrior was one of the best things I could have done with this game.
>>316806831
Never do this
>>316811741
>Make your main pawn a healer so you don't have to
Hire some Mage from the rift, check their stats, skills beforehand.
Mage stat growths are completely shit, and they usually loses their worth after you hit the lv30 range and have some disposable in-come for curatives.
It's no inconvenience whatsoever to spend some time in the rift checking for a Mage that can help you for 20 levels until he becomes useless.
>>316812250
Don't worry, giving warriors 6 skills will be the very first major mod this game gets. Seeing as how it's on the same engine as DMC with style switching mods I don't see why it won't be fairly easy to do.
>tfw you first travel to bluemoon tower just because of curiosity
Worth it
>>316812453
>The paused healing, and encouraged paused healing at that with the wound system just breaks the game
I see your point, but I found it a lot more enjoyable to just not abuse the healing system and instead play on normal.
I do agree that it would be interesting to see a real-time item usage mod, but it would only highlight how broken it was in the first place.
>>316812603
Damn right, mage personal pawn is a waste. Sorcerer is the way to go.
>>316812526
No, you're just fucking retarded, anon. You claim to have "suffered" through BBI, but obviously you didn't if you enjoyed it.
>>316806831
Basically you were fooled by /v/ the game is shit and I will explain why:
>No indication of where roads lead
>No hint to what enemies are weak to
>No hint of when enemies are alone or in groups
>No warning to avoid status effects
>No clue to which items are masterworks
I don't know how people defend this game.
>>316806831
OP I think your enjoyment will greatly increase once you realize the game has a special AI coded for the wolves that make them hunt in a group like formation.
>>316809925
>MK is boring as balls, and fucks your performance on the poor specs of last-gen consoles. (It can be very strong though, if you know the broken skills.)
I assume you're spamming GC and sigil, since you brought up the performance issue. I'd avoid spamming those too much, as it makes the game pretty boring, much like MA's sixfold and richochet skills.
>>316812526
You can master more than 3 skills at a time. Then again, you seem like a masochist, so whatever floats your boat I guess.
>>316812612
Let us certainly hope that mods will be possible/forthcoming.
>>316812721
>No clue to which items are masterworks
All of them.
>>316812713
Don't get hung up on words. BBI as warrior was challenging and sometimes frustration, but because of this far more rewarding and satisfying.
>>316812721
>>316812731
Nope, I generally avoid anything that takes ages to cast. Unfortunately, that's nearly all of MK's skills. (Also, AA cases similar slowdowns.)
I see you enjoy shield parrying, but fighter can do that better. (Excluding the parry spell effects of course, but again, rebuff rebuff rebuff)
>>316812721
>WAH NO CHEAT MODES
jesus what the fuck are you talking about? Do you want the game to come with an included unskippable walkthrough guide?
>>316813503
Seems you missed the joke.
>>316813582
where is the fucking joke? or are you just assuming it was a joke because it was so fucking stupid?
>>316813674
>Seems all roads lead to Gran Soren
>'Tis weak to fire!
>Wolves, they hunt in packs!
>Are you noticing a trend?
>C'mon man, did you even play the game?
>>316813674
Wow, anon. You haven't even played Dragon's Dogma have you? For fucking shame.
>>316806831
You are apperntly bad at games.
>>316813892
>>316813918
Yeah, I played it a lot fucking years ago when it came out.
>omg he doesn't get the joke people would only get if they played it recently because the game is so forgettable! he must not have played it XD
Unlike you I didn't wait for this to become a meme game to play it you underage &b fucking cunt
>>316806831
Anon, you might just need to practice more. Dragon's Dogma is a genuinely difficult game, and WILL punish you for not being cautious, but also swift in your elimination of your foes. You WILL die, so save often. Have a mage with you always to enchant your weapons so you can actually deal damage worth mentioning to your enemies. Try to play as a more simple class at first, like Fighter, and then ascending to Warrior, until you understand how the game works well enough to feel comfortable trying out some other classes like Ranger or Mage. Dragon's Dogma is kind of like Monster Hunter, but with better controls. I can't git gud at Monster Hunter at all, and dislike the controls so much that I just dropped it, but if I can master the controls of Dragon's Dogma enough to play on hard mode where wolves and goblins will OHK you at the VERY beginning, I have confidence that you can hone your skills enough to play on normal.Also, you get random 10,000 gold drops from ANY KIND of enemy on hard mode, so I'm rollin' in dosh. It's a lot harder to be rich on normal mode.
>>316814469
>>316814469
I played the game at launch and I haven't played in at least a year. Stop getting mad because you didn't get the joke, anon.
you make this thread everyday
>>316814621
in at least a year? you played this game for 3+ years? well no fucking wonder you remember
>>316814469
>getting this mad for not getting a joke
Anon...
I finished the game twice without tracking the quest for The Hero achievement. This third run is going to be a bitter one.
>>316810209
I'm working on some concepts in my spare time as to the layout and different environments the next DD game should have.
>>316814759
>I have no life and I must post.
>girl in my historically accurate french murder/sex comics reminds me of Maddie
Neat.
Faster pls.
>>316815289
>2 more months
>>316810209
The Gransys Peninsula's only a little place.
It's a crying shame we can't journey to other lands, but what we got represents a backwater duchy pretty well.
>>316815489
at least we'll get footage in a week or so
>>316813674
Are you fucking stupid?
learn to dodge.
>>316807127
Git Gud.
>>316813168
>Nope, I generally avoid anything that takes ages to cast. Unfortunately, that's nearly all of MK's skills. (Also, AA cases similar slowdowns.)
Then what is the performance issue that you're having trouble with? Because when I played MK, the only time I had performance issues with skills is with the GC and sigil combo.
>I see you enjoy shield parrying, but fighter can do that better. (Excluding the parry spell effects of course, but again, rebuff rebuff rebuff)
Not really, MKs invincible frames are longer than fighter because of the spell casting.
The fighter has a shorter recovery time though.
I still prefer MK over the fighter's guard skill.
You ps3 bros got me hyped up for this game when it comes to pc, so please tell me:
How is the exploration, if there is any?
What else is good, outside of the combat?
>>316812379
It's pretty rad, I agree, but I prefer the maces.
>>316814724
> forgetting its just a jape
> ever
>>316810209
>get to the encampment
>cassardis is like an inch away on the map
>expect fuckhuge game
>90% of the map is unexplorabe mountain and ocean
What a cocktease.
>>316807372
>Mystic Knight
>Blighttown
Can't wait to set up 3 holy magick cannons on PC
>>316816091
the customization I guess
you can explore if you want but there's not a lot of stuff to find and almost every area is tied to a quest
the overworld is pretty bland too
now, bitterblack isle is a different beast
>>316816091
Character creation and the combat are both high tier, the world is mostly good because of it's very nice lighting system. Night is dark as fuck, and you will get fucked up by the creatures that come out then. Creature design is a strong point imo, and everything about bitterback is just very well done for a dungeon crawl. The other endgame dungeon, everfall, sucks a bag of dicks though.
>>316816596
I enjoyed the Everfall's easy access to the larger monsters. Being able to fight hydras whenever you felt like it was fun.
>tfw Assassin makes all other vocations obsoletewhen is this coming out on PC so I can unplug my PS3?
>>316816091
Pawns. Some people are really butthurt about them, their ai doesn't always works how it was intended and the game doesn't communicate well how to train them. But when you do know they can become really awesome. Some of my favorite moments in this game are my personal pawn fucking shit up. You can see them grow and become better and it's always anice feeling to get your pawn rented and high rated.
>>316816293
>>316816596
thanks
>>316817016
Is playing with pawns the intended and balanced way to play, or can I solo?
>>316817246
It is intended and balanced, but solo is possible.
>>316817246
You're intended to do it with pawns.
You can do it solo, mostly as an Assassin due to the special things the Assassin can get (I don't think they're augments, I"m pretty sure they're class specific features or whatever) that increase your abilities while fighting alone. Used to be better, but it got nerfed with DA.
>>316817246
you can solo, but the game really pushes you to at least have your main pawn with you and is balanced around that
>>316815227
source?
>>316817246
While pawns are fairly integral to the whole DD experience, and running a 4 sorcerer party is recommended at least once since you can get them to all simulcast, assassin has solo play buffs and anyone can solo if they want.
>>316817462
It was one single augment, autonomy.
>>316817597
Well, combined with Bloodlust. Then you're really fuckin' strong.
How bad of an idea is it to play the game first time (Normal mode) with a self imposed rule to only heal after combat ends?
Skyrim style pause menus really ruin it for me and it seems like most hits you take in the game are "fair".
>>316817792
If you make your pawn a mage you will be getting healed in battle anyway
>>316817792
First time ever playing? I wouldn't say it's un-doable, but it's gonna be annoying.
This thread is the perfect example why knowing how to build your character is just as valuable a skill as twitch reaction times for dodges and shit.
>>316817693
You don't need to play solo to use bloodlust.
>>316817958
No, but you do need to play solo to use Autonomy. Combine them by playing solo at night.
>>316817920
>>316817943
I don't mind dying a ton if i feel i can do better next time.
But if i really can't avoid hits reliably and it's a battle of attrition then i imagine it could get annoying .
>>316817246
>Is playing with pawns the intended and balanced way to play, or can I solo?
With pawns is the intended gameplay, but it's possible to do solo. In fact, you can benefit a lot from solo play with the right augments
Though if you're playing solo, you might want to prepare a lot.
>>316818102
You can, but you need to learn it. Biggest problem is that unless you're playing a yellow vocation so you can dodge, the only thing you can do is just stay away from enemies or block, and that takes a lot of stamina depending on the attack.
>>316818102
every class can avoid damage, more or less reliably
yellow vocations can dodge, reds can block, parry and i-frame through shit and blues can levitate
>>316818102
On normal mode, you'll be fine. You just probably won't be taking out the drake early (he's like a level 20ish kill on normal mode normally), that would be the one annoying thing to fight.
>>316817506It's 110% edgy hilarity, just warning you.
January will bring with it as much shitposting as Prepare to die and all the "artificial difficulty" whining.
And then it will be followed by whining about how DD has the worst fanbase.
The mustard race can't help smearing shit all over themselves and then complain that they're covered in feces.
>>316812453
>>316812704
what I do to make the game challenging is to not bring a healer. Instead relying entirely on potions and whatever I find in the dungeons.
When you're running with just yourself and your pawn max carrying capacity is a real limiting factor, especially when later on you need to be prepared for status removal as well.
Just my own small way to add challenge to the game.
>>316807372
>Sorcerer
Cant stop laughing, why does every fucking sorcerer pawn have that?
>>316814724
at least fucking masterworks should have been stuck in your ear
nigga I haven't played the game since Dark Arisen and I still get flashbacks from that merchant
>>316818883
Because maelstrom is literally the best spell in the entire game. Even better when used 4x at once
>>316817792
>How bad of an idea is it to play the game first time (Normal mode) with a self imposed rule to only heal after combat ends?
>Skyrim style pause menus really ruin it for me and it seems like most hits you take in the game are "fair".
shouldn't be a problem if you bring a mage with you who will heal you with spells
in fact on my first run through I never ever used potions because my mage did all the work
>>316818883
I refuse to hire any Sorcerer with that thing unless I plan on spell syncing with them. There are so many other decent nukes that don't piss on the physical vocations.
>>316818342
I read that
it's fucking great, but I enjoy edgy sometimes
+incest
>>316819226
Like Gicel. The coolest spell in the game.
>>316818883
>why does every fucking sorcerer pawn have that?
It's one of the strongest spells in the game.
>>316819265
>Gicel. The coolest spell in the game.
*badumtshhh*
>>316816091
>What else is good, outside of the combat?
Sense of adventure. Very few games really feel like you're preparing for expeditions, exploring places, and hurrying to be back before nightfall. It's fun as fuck.
>>316818883
My whole experience in BBI with my sorc character is basically waiting behind doorframes and casting Maelstrom.
>>316819610
>waiting behind doorframes and casting Maelstrom
My go-to strat was standing on balconies, casting high bolide.
>>316817792
You'll probably want to at least be able to use status effect curing items during combat. Getting petrified and being smashed to bits instantly because you refused to go into a menu is a bit much.
Besides that, it's entirely possible and probably pretty fun.
>>316819264
Hell yeah, this shit is godtier.I like how the women are all unapologetic sluts. Also it kind of made me want to get boned by Michelangelo.
>>316819265
Glicel sucks so bad.... until you happen upon the fact that it can be fucking aimed. Why is this not stated anywhere is what I want to know
>>316820160
decadence is probably my biggest fetish
also corruption of innocence
this is probably the best fapfic I read in those regards:
https://www.literotica.com/s/corrupting-amber-ch-01
it's the 12 chapter transformation of an innocenct girl into a heroin addicted cockslut
>>316820776
Oh hohhohoo. Thanks, m80.
Is it worth picking up a used copy and playing through it on PS3? I can't contain my hype for giant fucking spells.
I hope they do something with NG+ besides "play it again on ez mode because you keep all your equips and level".
>>316822298
You're going to be disappointed when you see how boring it is to play Sorc. Prepare to spend a lot of time standing still or getting hit before you casy because the AI won't protect you.
>>316822421
>tfw wanted to make a big bara berserker pawn to protect me
Fuck life.
>>316822716
It's doable but you'll have to spend a lot of time training your pawn, something the game provides almost no explanation of.
>>316821451
you're welcome
keep sharing if you like
>>316822716
the thing is that you need to train your pawn, especially if they have a red vocation
otherwise you'll just see a bunch of standing around and doing nothing
>>316822921
>>316823057
So, uhh, after googling it, I just have to hire a pawn that acts like a tanky berseker, and it should learn through that? That's actually a pretty cool sounding system, desu.
>>316823421
nope, it mostly learns from you
that means pick up a greatsword and show him what to do
the amount of things they can pick up on is actually impressive, you can even start to see some of your habits after a while
I wonder if they're going to patch out guard farming in Grand Soren.
So next playthrough is gonna be my Arisen and Main Pawn as two Warriors. Sorcerer and Ranger as Secondary Pawns? Seems kind of typical.
>>316823998
get a mage
>>316824102
How about three warriors and a mage? Would that be worth it? I know you can still do Metal Golem if you get lucky in kiting it around and leap off of its back to smack the airborne medals.
>>316824292
Honestly Fighters usually do a Warriors job the same, and they actually have good skills.
>>316824292
sure it's viable, but living armors, ghosts, liches, wighs and metal golems would be a pain in the dick
>>316824461
I know. I'm just blinded by imagining 3 warriors unleashing Arc of Deliverance on a fool. Dragon's Maw is actually a really good skill for damage for Fighters.
>>316824467
Think there's any way to get around that pure physical? Would stacking Conquerer's give you enough strength to bypass their fuck high defense?
>>316824461
But they don't look nearly as cool, anon.
>>316824728
enchanted weapons work well, but carrying around an extra greatsword just for physically immune enemies is a lot of extra weight
also I don't remember if you can actually get one before the end game
>>316825042
>also I don't remember if you can actually get one before the end game
Caxton can sell you some, if you give him one of the idols.
Mystic Knight best Vocation
Carry around a sword/mace of every damage type and a staff and just fuck everything up
>>316826639
MK is kinda boring imo, I'd rather play fighter
they do have a ton of options, but they all involve a ton of setup time so in combat you're stuck with 2-3 skills and a clunky shield
>>316826639
MK could easily use 8 slots with that huge amount of skills. A shame the class doesn't have a taunt skill though, I rarely get to use the kickass shield parry skills.
>>316808015
>instant reset is shit
It makes you OP as fucking shit holy christ.
YOU CAN JUST NEVER STOP.
Anyone tried shield assassin?
>>316828087
Not so fun, I rather go with sword&bow.
>>316828357
sword and bow is rad as hell, but it's also fucking terrible
>no shield
>no dodge
why
>>316828087
Assassin is such a good class, I carry a light shield, a sword, some daggers, my best bow.
Change it up whenever you want, shits fun.
>>316828357
Reason I ask is mainly because of Showdown. Huge increase to Strength, Gale Harness for speed, then Thousand Kisses at mach 1.
>>316828498
This is what Clairvoyance is for. Or you just kill everything before it becomes a danger to you.
>>316828782
Sorry, didn't spend enough time with shield assassin to have a real opinion on this skill. Both skills don't seem to cancel each other out, though.
>PC Dragon's Dogma
>finally possible to make a mod letting you use more than 3 weapon skills at once
If no one else cares I'll do it myself
At this point there's no reason not to wait for the Dark Arisen PC port. Also, if you're playing DD but not Dark Arisen, you're playing the wrong game.
>>316829820
I'll hold you to that, anon.
>>316815227
Looks like edgy "church is evil" sillyness
Is it worth giving a Warrior pawn Arc of Deliverance? Seems like they'd never be able to pull it off and giving them Savage Lash would be better.
>>316829959
Don't be hatin'
>>316830942
they either do nothing but try to land it and whiff it 99% of the time or they never use it, it's weird
lash, exodus and whirlwind is what I normally give them
>>316830942
In general, no, says the community. My warrior pawn was once able to kill a chimera with it, like any arisen would have done. But I never really trusted the ai. You could give your pawn the lesser version, savage lash. But I saw pawns misusing even this skill, charging it in front of a wolf, which then just runs away like the little shit he is.
>>316831198
wait I meant lunge, not lash
>>316830942
I usually stick my Warriors with skills that don't rely quite so much on timing.
>>316831198
>>316831523
What about Ladder Blade for getting me onto airborne enemies? Would that be worth grabbing for a pawn?
>>316831646
it's situational as fuck and warrior barely has 3 slots to work with already, but if you really want to grab onto harpies go for it
>>316831820
I was thinking more for Griffons or Dragons that are just hovering overhead with no real way for me or my melee pawns to reach them.
>>316829820
If Capcom have any sense they'll make a special PC mode where arbitrary restrictions like this are gone.
At the very least being able to switch them on the fly would be cool but nope. It makes sense for the pawns, less so for the arisen.
Also needs a mod with real-time healing items, probably THE biggest gripe with DD is needing to pause to heal because it shits all over the immersion and action the game is so good at otherwise.
>>316832007
well, griffins land fairly often and once you latch onto them it's gg
as for dragons, don't bother, I've tried. they just back away as soon as you get too close
just hit the tail until they fall down
>>316832393
Dicks. Well, thanks.
>>316832007
>>316832274
If Capcom had any sense, we'd be waiting for Dragon's Dogma 2 right now, instead of DD Online or port of Dark Arisen.
>>316832274
I'd settle for a hotkey you can set to a healing item. Navigating those menus in the middle of a huge battle is a pain.
