A baby is drowning in the lake:
>New Vegas
Help the child
Don't help the child
Inquire to the reward first
Assist someone else in helping the child
Ponder the consequences of this child dying
Offer to help bring in the child's body after drowning
>4
Help the child
Help the child but agree to it sarcastically
Why is this allowed?
>>316661018
Bethesda sucks at open world games. Think back to Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim. It's an "open world game" where you only choices are to advance the story.
Sure, they offer some choices in minor quests, but the main story means you have to follow a linear path.
>>316661018
HATE CHILD
>>316661018
Bethesda are hacks and couldn't write themselves out of a 2 foot hole
>>316661453
HATE DROWNING
I need to stop coming to this board
>>316661598
Don't forget, you're here forever.
>Help the child but agree to it sarcastically
I laughed. This is exactly how it plays in Fallout 4.
>>316661551
HATE LAKE
>no ending to convinceyour sonfrom following the one true Railroad
I miss Obsidian.
Fallout 4's entire premise revolves around a 200 year old baby.
That just shows how much effort Beth gives to "writing".
>>316661018
>>New Vegas
>Help the child
>Don't help the child
>several 'flavor' options that just leads to one of the first two choices
Fixed.
>>316662023
Is it ever explained why you thaw out for like a minute just to see the baby get kidnapped?
>>316662159
The pods don't freeze/thaw individually, only as a group. They had to thaw everyone to get the child.
>>316661598
getting your feelings hurt, Todd?
A baby is drowning in the lake:
>Fallout 1
Ask for more information
Agree to help
Decide not to help
Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest
Reveal too much information about yourself, causing the Super Mutants to track your vault more easily
>Fallout 2
Ask for more information
Agree to help
Decide not to help
Accidentally say something that pisses the NPC off, failing the quest
Pop culture reference about the baby
>Fallout 3
Yes, I will save the baby
Depends on the caps
I will not save the baby
[Intelligence] The baby is drowning
>Fallout New Vegas
I will save the baby
I will not save the baby
[Barter 30] Double the caps and I'll save the baby
[Medicine 30] Thanks to my medical knowledge, I will easily be able to save the baby
[Survival 15/30] Uh... yeah, I totally know how to swim
>Fallout 4
Yes
No (Yes)
Sarcastic (Yes)
>>316662150
>Fallout 4
>Help the child
>precisely 3 flavor options that lead to the first choice
>>316662150
what other options would you suggest that don't result in either helping of don't helping the child? killing the child?
>>316662246
Pretty spot on
If you think that drop in dialogue is bad you should look at the original fallouts.
Dialogue went from one of the biggest parts of the game to something that consists of only a couple lines to start and end a quest.
>>316662430
(X) HATE DIALOGUE
>>316662246
>[Intelligence] The baby is drowning
>>316662246
>[Intelligence] The baby is drowning
>not saving the child
You only need one option.
>4
The baby is actually 60yrs old.
>>316662246
>Fallout 4
Walk away during conversation.
>>316662235
But that doesn't make sense, because your character is still basically frozen whereas your wife is in full control of her body, even struggling against a person to hold onto the child.
>>316662150
>New Vegas
>several options that boil down to help or don't
>4
>4 options that boil down to yes I will help.
>>316662659
You could move around in the pod in that scene, anon. Didn't you bang on the glass? Did you seriously do nothing to prevent your husband from dying and son being snatched?
>>316662246
capped
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE KARMA SYSTEM
>>316662580
children are shit. I'd rather watch them die then save one.
A baby is drowning in the lake:
>The Witcher 3
I'll help the baby
I won't help the baby (NPC convinces you to help the baby anyway)
Options 3 onwards: Pointless information about the baby
>New Vegas
Brown
Brown
Brown
Empty
Brown
>Other Fallout Games
Actual fun
Why was this allowed?
>>316662741
>playing as a woman
Have you told your parents yet? I'm sure they will accept your homosexuality.
What aboutchild adoption?
>>316662659
No they're not "basically frozen". They're locked in the tube like the other hopeless sods. Only one pod was opened up. All were deactivated.
>>316662832
>fallout 3 and 4
Grey
Grey
Grey
Empty
Grey
Why are you such a weenie?
>>316662884
>not being post apocalyptic retrofuture milf
>>316662821
>you save it
>it grows up to be a ruthless marauder who rapes and pillages his way across the world until he is killed and then haunts a town as a ghost
>>316662246
Fallout 4 is close, but it's more like
Baby?
Yes
No (Yes)
Sarcastic (Yes)
>>316662895
Not your kid.
No reason to care about it and track it down
>>316662945
There's still frost on the window of your pod, dude.
Plus you can't look around in that section iirc.
>>316662954
Grey is objectively better than brown.
>Do a quest to give a boy dying from a poisonous bite a cure
>Tell the doctor to fuck off, that I'm keeping it for myself and say "What is one more dead child in the world?"
Bethesda actually tried a bit.
Play the game first Obsidiandrone.
>>316663073You don't understand
>>316663121
You are objectively a brown person
>blow up the institute killing your son and hundreds of innocents
>keep all synths enslaved
Where was theconvince Institute to align with the Railroadoption? Why are the only choices two extremes?
>>316662884
>not being a future battle trans
>>316663054
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hole_in_the_Wall
>If the player uses the Vault 81 Cure on his/herself to cure the Molerat disease, Austin dies and everyone in Vault 81 blames the player.
You guys are retarded.
>>316662246
What about the Intelligence 3 options in Fallout 1 and 2?
>not picking the husband then changing sex after tutorial
Shaun was immaculate conception, bro.
>>316662821
>>316663038
Friendly reminder that the Catriona plague that killed potentially hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, was caused by Ciri being an idiot when dimension-travelling. And she never even realised.
>>316662340
>laugh at child
>throw rocks at child
>tell child you're getting help and leave never to return
>rapechild
I really wanted that Intelligence option to tell my son why his shit is retarded.
>>316661018
>game doesn't let you shoot at innocent settlers
>moves the gun out of the way when you aim down your sights at them
>equip fully automatic rifle and unload 60 shots until some finally trigger a hostile response
bet that psychic bitch has all the chems she wants in hell now for being such a fucking junkie
>>316663520
No-one at Bethesda passed the Intelligence check required to write that option.
>>316663603
wait, is this for real, you can't murder "Megaton Settler"s for shits n giggles?
>>316662982
>playing Fallout 4
wew lad
>>316663619
the chat wheel just works m8
>>316662246
Fallout 3
[intelligence roll failed!]
[load game]
[intelligence roll failed!]
[load game]
[intelligence roll success!]
>>316662235
What happened to everyone else in the vault?
I've only seen a couple of playthroughs of the beginning.
>>316664009
If you read the terminal in the cryo room it has teh status of each pod.
All suffocated because the life support failed.
>>316664009
The Institute shut down their life support and killed them all. But they kept you alive as a back-up.
Why they only wanted one back-up who knows. Or why they didn't just take all the Vault-dwellers with them to the institute for more DNA nobody knows.
>>316663376
You can do that?
Obsidian
>Save the baby
>Let it drown
>You talk to the baby and its a Chris Avellone self-insert
>>316663213
Bethesda wants to pretend they are clever and able to pull at your heartstrings when really they're just too dumb or lazy to include all the obvious options to their own shitty story.
>>316664085
>>316664117
Huh. So the pods all freeze/unfreeze as a group, but each pod has its own life support system.
>>316663438
It was only Nordlings, did the world a favor.
Nilfgaard is literally the only civilized country.
>>316664637
dude if you keep asking questions about this shitty fucking story you're going to go insane
>>316663493
Pretty sure new vegas did have some options where you could say you were going to help someone but be lying about it, but it still boils down to not helping them.
>>316662023
>fallout 4 story is fallout 3 story in reverse
god damn you Bethesda, god damn you
>>316663213
So can you actually play after the end of the game this time? Or is it another save before the point of no return and reload afterwards to keep playing sort of deal?
>>316661018
More like
>New Vegas
Help the child
Don't help the child
Don't help the child and say something dickish
Help the child sarcastically
Ask about reward
check perception: look a child is drowning!
check Intelligence: I >see< bubbles and >see< a child is missing, therefore the child is drowning
check strength: save the child by pulling him with your muscles
>FO4
----inquire/charisma----
sarcastic----dickish
-------spineless---------
>>316663117
You can
if you press e i think you can bang on the glass
>>316663262
I kept him aliveso I can fuk him l8r
>>316661018
I'm a huge moralfag in video games so I have no problem with it.
>>316666454
I'm a huge moralfag too and I think that's a dumb position to take.
How did we go from this
>>316663213
So they can sell the real ending in DLC like they did with Broken Steel.
>>316666503
I have no problem being railroaded into being the hero of the wasteland, because I'm already going to do it.
I didn't expect Bethesda to give me a choice, Fallout 3 was the same way.
>>316666591
To this?
>>316666679
It's boring though. Take Vegas - you have actual choice. Yes, a moralfag character won't follow Legion but other choices - NCR has some fantastic people working and fighting for it, but the top is rotten. House is a man with a plan, but is his plan the best for the common good? Independent Vegas - true democracy or doomed utopia? These kinds of choices are cool. Doing "good" things because they're the only way/the highlighted way is boring. It's not your choice.
>>316666705
HATE DIALOG
>>316666881
What part of not expecting to even have a choice did you not understand? I went into this game knowing that I would be forced to be a huge moralfag. Bethesda only gives the illusion of choice.
What is this meme that you have no choices in Fallout 4? Justwalk away from choices that you do not want to make
>>316667120
This doesn't really have much with you being a "moralfag" then, I guess.
>>316667120
Expecting something to be shit doesn't excuse it from being shit. I wouldn't mind being railroaded into one direction if that direction was actually good. Bethesda seriously needs to step their game up.
>>316661018
It's more like
>DROWNING?
>SARCASTIC
>YES
>NO (but you still do it anyway)
>>316667120
Doesn't help that Bethesda advertises the game saying that you can do anything, when in fact, you can hardly do anything.
>>316667289
I didn't say it did, but adding a bunch of black and gray morality dialogue choices that still circle around to a yes or no decision doesn't make it better either.
>>316667352
The only time "No" hasn't been a clear refusal is during the intro because you have to fill out the form, and even then it was your spouse doing the choice for you while you stayed adamant about getting that Vault-Tec faggot off your doorstep.
You can dislike the game, but blatant misinformation is not cool.
>>316667352
More like no but it gets added to your quest log anyway so you'll just have to come back later to get it to go away.
>>316667618
I think the point is, is that "No" is generally "No, not now, but later when I talk to you again and say yes, otherwise there's no way to progress my disucssion with you"
I think there was only one or two instances where saying no caused my character's interraction with that character to outright end or change the course of dialogue to a different result.
>>316662246
Almost perfect. This is how Fallout 4 goes:
A baby is drowning in the lake:
>Fallout 4
Information about baby?
(Sarcastic) (Yes)
No (Annoyed yes)
Yes
>>316662150
>Drain the lake
>Throw an innertube at the baby
>Use dynamite to blow the baby out of the lake
>Enlist the Boomers to help Fulton extract the baby
>Shoot the baby
>Detonate the sea mines surrounding the baby
>Crash a space rocket into the baby
>Deliver the baby to the White Glove Society
>Shoot the Cazadore nest nearby
>Make a witty quip at the baby
Imagine the possibilities
Anyone know if you can just skip the opening quest with that faggot in concord with the power armor just so you never have to deal with them in your settlement?
Any of them necessary for quests besides minute-man stuff? Essential and cannot be killed?
I got pissed off enough to uninstall the game from my computer after torrenting it, but I'm re-downloading it and giving it another chance (because i have nothing to play until Yakuza 5 comes out)
>>316667120
>tfw barter for a few extra caps on a mission
>[Codsworths disliked that]
>[Preston disliked that]
just manipulate my choices up senpai
>>316667843
It's not like any of the previous games were much different, saying no was mostly just a way to get out of doing that specific quest at that moment. That baby would be drowning forever until you actually helped it.
>>316668083
Just never go into the museum I guess. I don't know why you wouldn't want them in Sanctuary though. Preston can't be killed because he is a companion.
>>316661259
>Sure, they offer some choices in minor quests, but the main story means you have to follow a linear path.
Thats fine, these events go bye you mold where it goes
>>316661018
>Inquire to the reward first
I always liked this sort of choice
>>316668289
At least they got rid of karma. Remember Tenpenny Tower?
>>316661598
HATE BOARD
>>316668313
>I don't know why you wouldn't want them in sanctuary though
You can't move them around to other settlements, and their AI glitches out the rest of the settlers for me sometimes and pulls everything off their assignments. I found out killing Sturges fixed this for me. I hate have no choice for dumb reasons too, so I ended up just killing all of them in public. 0 ramifications for that. Killed off the abernathy farms people too for that.
>>316668443
HATE ROY
>Yes
>Yes later
>Yes with angst
>>316668864
I USED TO BE AN ADVENTURER LIKE YOU
>>316668864
Someone says something about taking a bullet to the knee. I think it's a raider thing if you hit them in the legs.
>>316668443
>Help the ghouls because they're the oppressed minority that needs babying and can't help themselves find somewhere else to live
>The ghouls kill everybody human
>You lose karma for killing their asses afterwards
>>316669070
those humans deserved it for being bigots t-b-h
>>316669127
Entirely separate issue. I'll kill them myself. The ghouls had no right.
>>316669127
Herbert Dashwood was a hero and a saint.
>>316668864
upper thigh!
>>316662821
Witcher 3:
>Save baby
>Let baby drown
>Demand more coin to save baby
>Throw baby in fireplace
All choices are objectively wrong
>>316661018
While the dialogue sucks it does give me the chance to do a Solid Snake RP
>>316669258
>>316669258
I love what they have done to the skipping dialogues.
>>316665124
They did.
Boomers quests comes to mind.
So did fallout 3, more then new Vegas I think.
>>316662246
bravo
>>316668313
None of the named people can be killed in Sanctuary. I was walking around, and that Marcy girl gave me attitude, so I saved the game and decided to kill her. After shooting her 3 times with a shotgun, she became hostile and her health started to go down. Then after shooting her enough, she did the little downed animation from Skyrim before getting back up.
>>316670106
You can kill Jun and Mama Murphy, they aren't essential. For some reason Marcy is, I think it's just a fuck up on Bethesda's part.
>>316670106
Oh how I want to kill her. I mean I save them, give them all a place to live, walk all across the wasteland securing resources to make it into an actually comfortable place to live and this ungrateful cunt gives me attitude!
I'm angry that you cant continue to rp as Silver Shroud THE ENTIRE GAME desu
>>316670520
>comfort as Silver Shroud
As jaded as I am about this game, I've been getting a good chuckle out of doing this quest.
>>316670265
>I think it's just a fuck up on Bethesda's part.
When you can't be 100% sure about a genuine fuck up, or Bethesda arbitrarily making and NPC essential (or any for that matter) you have fucked up royally.
>>316661259
If anything I'd say that if there's one thing Bethesda does right it's make a really decent open world for the player to explore. The problem is that their current mindset is to make an open world action-adventure game instead of an open world role-playing game.
Like for all the half-assed shit that Skyrim does I'm always coming back to it every now and then for two things: to run around in the comfy ass winter world and to use werewolf mods to run around in the comfy ass winter world. It's hard to deny that you could say or do the same on the same scale for more than a small handful of other games out there.
>>316668060
all of which are not only unrealistic but all of which still boil down to helping the child or not. Your argument is invalid, as is your heritage.
>>316662246
It would be more like
[Intelligence] You can't breath underwater
>>316668443
It's kind of amazing how Tenpenny Tower's quest is a perfect analogy for the refugee bullshit in Europe
>>316662246
fucking perfect
>>316669258
Snake is a name that Codsworth can call you.
They know.
>>316668864
>Red hud
It's hard to resist shooting them all.
>>316672260
I was thinking the same thing
