>According to Robert House, cats are extinct by the year 2281.
>The events of Fallout 4 occur in 2287; a decade after Fallout 3, and six years after Fallout: New Vegas.
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>>316654965
It's a lion that get mutated by rad.
>>316654965
They kept some cats alive by putting them in Vaults. Some of these cats can escape and end up dead in Boston. There is no contradiction.
>>316654965
who gives a shit what goes on in this horse shit festival? fuck off and take your shit taste with you you shitter bitch.
When did House say that? I don't recall that conversation.
And how exactly does he know that cats are extinct all over the United States?
>>316656565
>There's more than one way to skin a cat, as the saying goes. Or went, that is - cats being extinct.
>>316654965
They keep track of this how exactly?
>>316654965
Wasn't there a vault filled completely with cats?
le ebin reddit cat meme :^)
>>316656739
Just a room in the upper seats in fenway
>>316656739
>a vault filled completely with cats
>le wacky vault experiments! xD
Seriously?
Even without vaults cats existed shortly before events of Fallout 2 so I'm not surpised if some of them made it in a different areas.
Cats are extinct in California though. Confirmed twice.
>>316654965
As powerful house was in Vegas I doubt he knows whats running around Boston
>>316654965
Maybe cats are extinct in the west, but not the east.
I remember Josh Sawyer being asked about cats being extinct and he said that he didn't think so, as cats are way more self-sufficient than dogs. Then again, of course "cat-lover" Saywer would say that.
>>316654965
>Nightstalkers exist in NV
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>>316656494
It's lazy, not dead. I found a trader in a little shack with a giant cat picture and like 8 cats lounging around.
>Implying the cats aren't from Vault 81
How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves with no intelligent leadership? It took The Master years to perfect the dipping process
How do the Vault 87 supermutants make more of themselves when anyone they kidnap would die instantly to the 3,600 rads/second at the entrance of the vault
What experimental conditions were Vault-Tec trying to test by locking up a bunch of people with a massive amount of extremely dangerous mutagenic virus? How to kill the fuck out of everything as fast as possible?
How and why does Vault-Tec even have any FEV at all? Did Bethesda honestly confuse West-Tek with Vault-Tec?
How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?
Why is a GECK now a matter manipulation device and why is such a powerful tool being wasted on making a water purifier for water that shouldn't even be radioactive in the first place?
How does using an unstable and extremely dangerous GECK matter manipulation device that can easily explode and destroy everything around it make for a water purification system? Water filtration is infinitely easier than transmuting atoms.
How does Dad even know what a GECK is and plan a machine to use a component he has never seen or used before? He may as well have designed the water purifier to use unobtainium.
Why does your father design a purification machine that is capable of dumping all its radioactive filtrate into the control room as a "trap"? Was Dad a psychopath? How is the radiation trap even possible when the purifier is not even complete at that point and not active?
Where did Dr. Lesko obtain FEV for his fire ant experiments?
It's a synth. And House was on the other fucking side of the country.
This is pretty autistic thing to complain about because theres literally 50 reasons cats could have survived without Richard Branson McIronLung knowing about it senpai
>>316654965
>cats extinct before dogs
Literally impossible.
>cats
>going extinct
Don't believe their lies, the super science / radiation increased their powers so that they can mind control dog owners.
"Cats are extinct" is just a myth the cats have spread to protect themselves from robots (which are immune to cat mind control).
>>316658186
>How does Col Autumn get inside Vault 87?
He's great with kids.
>>316656945
>GAAAAARY
>>316656945
Fuck off
Dumb subhuman frogposter
>>316658186
fuck you, that's why
in all honesty, bethesda cares more about how cool the moment is rather tan how much the moment makes sense in its context.
I'm replaying FO3 right now, and nothing makes any fucking sense.
>>316654965
>implying cats would go extinct but dogs wouldn't
shiggy diggy!
>>316654965
Holy fuck, how can you be so dumb?!
They KNOW that and they just put the cat there so it can be an obvious "oh wait theres this one cat left still alive" twist.
Jesus Christ, you faggots are relentless with Bethesda games. Where this retarded hate comes from anyway?
>>316658536
I agree.
Just the thought of a bunch of slaves hiding in the dc ruins and using the Lincoln memorial as a homestead urks me.
HEY GUYS LET'S LIVE IN ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES ON THE MAP XD
>>316658648
Mutant dogs might eat the cats?
>>316654965
>Not knowing what extinct means
There isnt a breeding population of cats by 2281. That doesnt mean every one of them is dead, it means they are in the very last possible generation, and that the species couldnt possibly continue.
>>316658737
>oh wait theres this one cat left still alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXdNj6Hmg2w
>>316658186
Bethesda are hacks.
>>316658284
riiight
>>316654965
Looks like House was wrong, just like he was wrong about my Courier helping him.
>>316658791
>The moment of extinction is generally considered to be the death of the last individual of the species, although the capacity to breed and recover may have been lost before this point.
Nah, you're a fag
>>316658817
>Cat Meat
>>316658284
>>316658648
maybe humans helped dogs survive due to their usefulness (I'm talking about big, smart dogs like german shepherds). In that context, cats are effectively useless; granted, they're better hunters in the wild, but maybe not good enough to survive in harsh, post-apocaliptic desert conditions.
>>316654965
is there a way to reset special and perks with a console command ? I messed and im already 20 hours in :(
Oh I forgot something:
Why is Jet something that is apparently around pre-war? Much less located in sealed pre-war locations.
Where did the Jet in FO3 come from? There is no manufacturing capability nor any semblance of Brahmin ranching, especially considering that D.C. is supposedly a lifeless wasteland with zero resources, food, or water for no real reason.
What in the fuck is up with the Talon Company? Who in the fuck has enough resources and wealth in the D.C. hellhole waterless struggling wasteland to afford a clone army with unlimited resources? What is their purpose? How do they even work on a logistics basis?
Why does the East Coast use caps as currency? What are caps backed with?
The cats are the synths!
But seriously, cats may have survived and bred by humans only in Boston. Meanwhile in the West Coast, the cats are extinct, according to House.
Hey, the East Coast are Bethesda's own Fallout universe while in the West are original/Obsidian's so they do whatever they want.
Humans would never allow cats to become extinct. They are just too cute to miss.
>>316659680
This desu.
The life of a cat has infinite value.
>>316659583
>nor any semblance of Brahmin ranching
I think the one Brahmin in Megaton would translate to about ten or twenty in non-Bethesda
>>316654965
This Fucking Quest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiIAUPzlQHI
>>316654965
>game "lore"
You fags are worse than anime nerds going on about which silver haired faggit would win in a fight.
It's a fucking game. It's sole purpose is to entertain you.
All game stories are fanfiction-tier quality.
>>316660853
>s-stop discussing things I don't care for!
>>316660853
>It's sole purpose is to entertain you
Yeah, and the story isn't entertaining.
The medium being shit does not excuse it being shit.
But that cat's dead. There is no contradiction.
>>316661312
It isn't dead. It's lazing around.
See
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>>316660853
The only reason to play a RPG is the story.
>>316661398
If you want a (good) story go read a book.
>>316654965
>New Vegas
>canon
Nope
>>316661617
If you want (good) gunplay join the army.
>>316654965
>According to Robert House
Stopped reading right there.
Everything post Fallout 2 isn't canon.
>>316662145
kek
>>316656945
You don't think there were any vaults where people had pets?
How could House know they would be extinct everywhere?
>>316661987
Yes.
Canon games: 1,2,NV
Non canon: Tactics,BoS,3,4
>>316658186
>How does Dad even know what a GECK is and plan a machine to use a component he has never seen or used before? He may as well have designed the water purifier to use unobtainium.
I forget if he found out about the GECK before or after he went into Vault 101 for the first time, but I think he found out about it from the overseer - who shouldn't know about it unless V101 got one, as other Vaults' experiments were kept secret - or otherwise discovered it during his time in V101.
>>316654965
HOUSE WAS WRONG
>>316654965
You know House is just a guy with a bunch of robots, right? He's not omniscient. In fact, he tends to be blindsided a lot of important things, such as Benny's betrayal or the disloyalty of the Strip families.
I'll believe he's never seen a post-war cat. Hell, I'll believe cats are extinct in Nevada. But it's hardly a lore flub when cats still exist across the country from one guy that said they don't.
>Some girls cat escapes from Vault 81
>Asked to go find it
>Not sure how the game expects me to do it
>Literally walk up to the cat and tell it in English to go back to Vault 81
>It fucking does
>>316662407
NV has same this to be honest
>>316662767
RADIANT AI
>>316654965
How would House know that every cat in the world was dead?
>>316658284
>in a world where mantids and cockroaches are large enough to attack people cats would still exist
Sure
Weren't there occasional NPC cats in New Vegas? Am I imagining this or confusing it with some other game?
I thought there were occasional cats that weren't enemies (even if you didn't have Animal Friend).
>all these people attempting to defend the quite possibly tiniest oversight by Bethesda
>>316662620
All the vaults had information about GECKs, there was just a limited supply and not every vault received one.
>>316662930
Plenty of dogs mutated, so there's really no reason the cats wouldn't either.
It's just a strange kind of omission, honestly.
>>316662767
IT JUST WORKS
how would cats even go extinct
especially over dogs
>>316656734
A pretty invalid perspective given House's influence and view is limited to the West coast.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have an understanding of what happened on the East coast.
>>316657959
What?
>>316664118
hunted for food maybe
>>316656945
Vault 81 had a secondary vault that was filled with fucking mole rats. why can't there be a cat vault?
>>316658186
I agree these are all good questions.
But you have to remember one that Fallout radiation is not real-world radiation.
>>316664179
He could've crunched the numbers on their chances of survival at some point.
Judging by the condition we know the east coast to be in, I'm surprised cats didn't get eaten or evolve into something that could protect itself.
>>316664397
why would you hunt cats over dogs
Someone kept cats in vaults and they got out in
Boston, repopulating.
>>316664524
Dogs are useful as pets and the wild ones travel in packs.
Was vault 111 always written as a vault for cryogen? Or did the make it up for the game? I read about all the vaults before fallout 4 was announced but I forgot whether they just recently gave it a purpose.
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>>316659583
>>316664920
Vault 111 didn't exist in the canon before Fallout 4.
>>316665354
Alright, that's what I thought.
>>316664580
so are cats if you're actually going to grow the crops necessary to build any reasonably sized settlement
of course nobody does this in fallout since everyone just eats 200 year old cans of beans
Fallout 3 should have taught you that Bethesda games aren't in the same canon as the other fallout games.
>>316665535
Bethesda's games are pretty much entirely self contained anyway
the only ""real"" mention i can find in a Bethesda about a seperate fallout game is a terminal entry in the citadel about the lone wanderer
>>316665439
By useful as pets I mean, if you take it hunting with you, it will fuck shit up with you/keep you alerted to other things attempting to fuck your shit up.
>>316654965
>I'm not the only person who noticed this or got upset by it.
House is a retard. Nuclear apocalypse only counts as one out of 8 lives.
>>316665535
Pretty much this.
By the end of Fallout Tactics it was pretty much stated directly that the brotherhood was taking over everything.
>listening to robert house
>>316654965
Cloning and genetic shit.
Fuck you it's the future with robots and mutants walking around.
>>316654965
>taking word of god from a man that would prefer to jack off to robots instead of real women
lol
>>316658817
>That shadow LOD pop
>Cats are literally right in front of you
Kek
>>316666464
Is there a problem?
Extinct in the Mojave, sure. But House isn't omnipotent.
>>316656548
Why does it make you angry when people enjoy games you don't like?
>>316666595
probably because hes a buttmad virgin kek.
>>316666559
>confusing mr house and robert house
>>316666646
Same goddamn person
>>316666646
>>316666646
kek
>bitching about cats when they retconned how fusion cores work
>>316666646
Right and next thing you will be telling me is that Snake died two years ago on that tanker.
>>316666646
Pretty sure cats were hunted cause they were easy to catch or used for Centaurs.
How the fuck would a guy completely confined to a 100-mile radius be able to know if cats are alive anywhere else? His whole weakness is that he's too self-centered and smug.
>>316654965
Why has no one pointed out that House couldn't have possibly known that cats were extinct?
Obsidikeks, I swear.
>>316666646
>implying mr house, robert house and not-at-home are all the same person
>>316654965
If Beth wanted to they could just say they came from a Vault filled with crazy cat ladies.
Also wasn't there a quest in F2 where you helped a little girl find her dead cat or something, and it was the only one left?
>>316666646
Todd makes a lot of mistakes with Fallout, but Howard would never let him have that mistake pop up.
>>316665439
How's a house cat gonna fight a mole rat the size of a dog
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>>316667629
In Fallout 2 you could talk to a lady reminiscing about her dead cat from her childhood. She said it disappeared one day, probably because someone ate it, and they're not really around anymore because they were easy food.
What's weird is, even before NV came out, people were pointing to this as proof that cats are extinct in Fallout (I guess hers was the last one in the world?). "Cats are extinct, some lady in a bar told me so. There's no higher authority than that!"
In Fallout: BOS there was also a quest to track down a prostitute's (recently) dead cat, but the less said about that game, the better.
>>316665354
That's literally every vault though.
>INT 5
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ONCE AGAIN, HOUSE IS NOT A VERY SMART MAN
>>316662407
>Not understanding humor
man neo-/v/ is out in force tonight.
>Thinking that Bethesda would ever acknowledge New Vegas as canon
>>316671920
How can they keep writing their shitlore fanfiction if they acknowledge the superior writers as canon
>>316666857
Underated post
>the dog privilege is real
Give me a fucking break.
Cats are better pets than some stupid dogs, can we acknowledge that there is a dog privilege in videogames?
>>316672146
Be ignoring the west coast, until the games first villain is show to somehow migrated all the from San Fransico to Boston.
How would House know about the existence of cats anywhere outside of the New Vegas region?
>>316672760
You mean an amalgamation of factions from the first and second games
>enclave
>super mutants
>brotherhood of steelJesus christ what were they thinking
>>316673012
Maybe ignore was the wrong world. Re purpose to suit their infantile game design ideas.
Because the real BOS was in 3, they where just made out to be the "bad guys"
>>316672523
>can we acknowledge that there is a dog privilege in videogames?
Yes there is.
>>316656548
>"shitter bitch"
After you calm down and realize other people have opinions that aren't identical to yours. I want you to sit down, hold a gun to your head, and pull the trigger after the retarded shit that you just wasted my time with.
>>316673140
>Because the real BOS was in 3, they where just made out to be the "bad guys"
BoS are the bad guys.
Go and play Fallout:Tactics...They are the ultimate dicks.
>http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/essays/cd.aspx
>YFW DOGFAGS ARE BTFO
AHAHAHAHAH
>>316666595
because we've got enough subhumans on this plantet already
>>316666645
>le virging xD
get c.ucked, retard.
>>316673248
I know this. Hence why the Capital Outcasts are the real BoS because they aren't the boy scouts like Lyons' Capital sect.
Fallout 4 seems too much like it was made for people who have never played other fallout games, not even 3 and New Vegas.
Ironically it has no tutorials for most of the new features.
>>316674182
its made specially for people who think these games are seminal achievements of the medium.
aka Bethesha are retards who make games for retards.im enjoying it to a certain degree. send help
>>316674361
You're enjoying it because it's just Fallout 3 with new vegas mechanics in a new setting.
>>316663981
people ate all cats in fallout universe.
>>316654965
Opposite side of the country pal, how the fuck should House know what's happening in an area that may as well be a different country now that long distance transport and communication is all but dead.
Annoying how nvfags bash wearing their canon armor when their game is mediocre as fuck
>her der house yesman caesar or new repub
>her der muh massive quest content that becomes nothing but a stale text adventure
Shove it up your ass
>>316675756
nigga what the fuck are you trying to say
>>316675837
That nv is shit in different respects, incomparable to fo4
Apples n oranges
>>316664460
He didn't take into account some vaults might have had a shit ton of pets
>>316675935
Comparably it's a better Fallout.
>>316673279
Lovecraft also wrote a short story about a man who inherits a strange house (won't spoil it), and the owner has a cat named Nigger Man
>>316676113
>Nigger Man
Sounds like a bizarre superhero
>>316675756
kill yourself frogposter
Fallout 4 has a submarine with a chinese ghoul captain who's been sitting around doing fuckall for over 200 years. Bethesda aren't known for their writing.
>>316654965
>he doesnt know FNV is a spinoff and not canon
>>316662407
>>316677173
a month later, anon got the joke
So any reference to House found yet? So far the Hub and NCR has been mentioned.
fallout 3/4 would make much more sense if it took place 20 years after the bombs fell
>>316674361
>aka Bethesha are retards who make games for retards
>no tutorials for most of the new features
seriously fo4 was the first AAA game where i had to read the fucking manual in a decade
>>316654965
New Vegas isnt canon m8.
>>316672523
>can we acknowledge that there is a dog privilege in videogames?
Cause they are fucking useless, go hunt mice somewhere else.
>>316654965
This is literal autism if you care about stuff like that
>>316673248
>that ending where you put Barnaky's brain in the Calculator
Tactics had some damn good evil endings.
