Is W3 a lockdown for GOTY?
>He still chooses a GOTY
It'll win the "people's choice" and lose in everything else
>3000 of those reviews are /v/irgins just typing out one-liner memes
>>316646379
I hope FO4 drops below 85
>>316646379
It already won
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/the-witcher-3-wins-ultimate-game-of-the-year-at-golden-joysticks-2015-5471812/
>>316646943
Voted for by people who are not allowed to own knives.
>>316646943
>golden joysticks
Witcher 3 won't win the most GoTYs.
>Going by popularity Fallout 4 fucking STOMPS the Witcher 3
>Going by Metacritic MGSV wins
Either way, Witcher 3 won't win. I've still got my money on Fallout 4 taking the majority, Uncharted 2 and MGS4 raped Fallout 3 in metacritic yet Fallout 3 still won the most GoTY awards.
BesidesBloodborne > MGSV >= Fallout 4 > Witcher 3
>>316646943
>doesn't include Fallout 4 or MGSV
>was going up against Dragon Age Inquisition
Come back when the relevant GoTYs are involved
>>316647036
>bloodborne
Top kek. You can't be serious
>>316647036
>MGSV >= Fallout 4 > Witcher 3
MGS V is literally the biggest blunder in the 20 years I've been actively following video games for. Weak bait.
>>316647020
>>316646997
>>316647142
>15 million votes
>irrelevant
Enjoy your circlejerk
>>316647036
>Uncharted 2 and MGS4 raped Fallout 3 in metacritic yet Fallout 3 still won the most GoTY awards.
Wow you're trying to create a pattern based on a large multiplat winning over two exclusives. U r clever.
Just Cause 3 comes out December 1st.
Will it actually be given a chance, or do all the places pick their GOTY before that?
>>316647036
Witcher 3 moved open world design forwards a bit, and especially changed things within its own series.
Bloodborne is just Souls. i.e. just making the same game over and over. Doesn't appeal to anyone who's not already a Souls fanboy.
No, that's Heroes of the Storm or Life is Strange
>>316647341
>>316647295
Look at the competition. MGSV and Fallout 4 don't qualify for it, they qualify for the 2016 awards. It's some ass backwards bullshit desu senpai.
Come back when Witcher 3 beats out MGSV and Fallout 4 directly.
>>316647341
>popularity matters
Well then Fallout 4 has it in the bag, doesn't it?
>>316646379
If you are asking what wins the actual GOTY awards, its going to be FO4
If you are asking what /v/ thinks GOTY is, its [subjective view here]
If you are trying to start another fucking W3-attempt-to-shit-on-another-game-to-stay-relevant bait thread, well done you succeeded.
>>316647680
>Fallout 4
>not shit
>MGSV
>not shit
baka desu
>>316647680
>Well then Fallout 4 has it in the bag, doesn't it?
If you were trying to make some direct comparison between Fallout 4 and Bloodborne (like you're doing with 2008) then maybe
Witcher 3 would be a better game if it was a better game to play. I enjoyed the characters and quest lines but the actual playing of it is a chore.
>>316646379
Honestly, yss
I love Bloodborne and personally think it's a better game due to the combat but the Witcher 3 is a great package that has a lot to offer.
>>316647651
>Witcher 3 moved open world design forwards a bit,
How? It does nothing with its open world other than provide empty space and annoying encounters on the way to areas with actual content. There is no environmental interactivity or anything like that to justify the open world. It's a traditional hub-based RPG stretched into an open world in a blatant attempt to get the Skyrim bucks.
>>316647295
I think TW3 is goty tbqh and the Golden Joysticks are still shit.
>>316647651
>Witcher 3 moved open world design forward a bit
This meme needs to die. It literally did nothing new and in fact, took a huge step back
>Destroyed exploration with the lack of dynamic encounters (GTA V, RDR etc)
>Made everything seemed artificial and turned exploration into a checklist bordering in on Ubisoft tiers with the bullshit POIs and smuggler caches
>Literally zero interaction with NPCs (see GTA V)
Witcher 3 did NOTHING with the open world formula apart from play it sickeningly safe, don't tell yourself otherwise.
>User scores
>Relevant
>>316647680
Fallout 4 must be redeemed on Steam, whereas Witcher 3 is DRM free so retail and other keys won't appear on Steam.
You could pre-order W3 for 30$ for a GOG key, so I bet a bunch of people bought it that way instead.Probably not enough to make a difference, but just saying.
>>316646379
Bloodborne
>>316647838
Novigrad by itself blows anything Bethesda has been doing out the water.
sure is game fags up in here.
>>316647921
>pic
>witcher 3 99% waifu
there was barely any waifu content
>ratings mean a game is good
>>316648004
That's not a high bar. Bethesda are extremely amateurish developers.
>>316647953
This
>>316647341
>yet Fallout 3 still won the most GoTY awards
retard.
>>316647921
>uses 'sickeningly' twice in the image and again in your post now
Can you stop posting screenshots of your own posts?
>>316647935
>muh GoG
Everytime
>>316648004
>Novigrad
>Every NPC is a literal prop that you can't interact with at all
GTA Vice City had a more impressive city
>>316646379
here, have a reply
>>316647680
I see you moved on from critic score to sells numbers since fallout 4 didn't score as high as the witcher 3. You have been shitposting the witcher 3 for half a year and I am starting to think it's your hobby.
MGSV had a terrible story and an empty open world.
W3 is boring and uninteresting.
F4 is buggy, unoptimised and somewhat streamlined for an RPG.
Obviously the best game of 2015 is Life is Strange since it's a comfy, enjoyable, adventure game with some neat ideas (the ending is somewhat predictable but at least it wasn't asinine).
It would be a shame if TW3 won goty when the gameplay is complete shit.
>>316648004
>Novigrad by itself blows anything Bethesda has been doing out the water.
Well yeah, Bethesda sucks major dick
The only real GOTY contenders are Bloodborne, Witcher 3, and MGSV
>>316648194
>somewhat streamlined for an RPG.
It's barely an RPG at all.
>>316648182
see
>>316647036
Either way you spin it, Witcher 3 loses tbqh senpai :^)
>both games
>a pain in the ass story-heavy pile of shit controls pseudo-rpg
Both suck.
>>316648246
More of an RPG than "The Shitter 3: Follow the red period stains"
>>316647680
>>316647036
>>316647921
>These same images every single thread for
months
Do you get an automatic alert any time someone makes a thread about Witcher 3 or something?
Xenoblade Chronicles X is Game of the year.
Thanks. Go Hawks.
Off the top of my head, the only proper original games that came out this year were Splatoon and Life is Strange, everything else is just sequels, remakes, remasters, reboots etc...
A lot of things were also open world snoozefests
>Witcher 3
>GOTY
I want to like Witcher 3 but the combat is shit, glitches abound everywhere and even general movement about the world can be a pain in the ass. The music is nice.
>>316646379
>shitter 3
>good
No
>>316648421
No, Witcher 3 has more roleplaying and you can actually generally tell what your character is going to say.
I'll agree that Witcher 3 plays like shit and is very boring and generic, however.
Splatoon got it on lock
>>316647036
Fallout 4 shouldn't get any awards, its a matter of principle, the other nominees exhibit a massively higher level of polish compared to Fallout 4. It would be disrespectful to give a game so unpolished that I don't even think it should be out yet the GOTY award.
I know, I know that they rushed the game so they would be eligible to get the GOTY marketing and the holiday sales. But they shouldn't be able to get away with such a vile marketing ploy that is insulting to the paying customers.
If those judges have any standards or any respect for the video game industry, they must not give Fallout 4 any awards, so Bethesda has to actually try to deliver a completed game next time. This whole its OK when Bethesda games are buggy argument doesn't hold any water nowadays, because TW3 set a higher standard for open world games QA, because you would almost never run into any bugs, specially game breaking ones like you do in Fallout 4, or random crashes and poor performance for the matter, this kind of think should never happen in an AAA game released in 2015.
And before a fanboy comes saying "I've never experience any game breaking bugs so they must not exist", you're either lying, deluded, blind or extremely lucky, because everywhere you look, no one is denying that the game is very glitch, save for hardcore Bethesda fanboys.
>>316648658
>generally tell what your character is going to say
>2~ dialogue options on average
>Geralt only repeats the first 3 words and then goes on for a ramble for at least 3 more sentences until you get another choice
>"Push Djkistra forcibly" - Geralt breaks his leg
kek no
>>316648153
Exclusives rarely win GOTY. Therefore the fact that Fallout 3 beat out Uncharted and MGS4 tells you very little about Fallout 3
Please try and keep up.
>>316648658
thats funny
>>316648658
>very boring and generic, however.
underage detected
>>316646379
A couple months ago I would've said GotY would have gone to MGSV without contest... but we all know better now.
Witcher 3 deserves to win, even with the downgrade BS. Because even a downgraded Witcher 3 is better than FO4 and MGSV.
>>316648936
It's a medieval high fantasy kitchen sink game. It's as generic and uninspired as it can possibly get.
>>316648795
Yea because Witcher 3 isn't buggy right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc6RnI47vTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F89nhqPRn2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8Al__RVU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM1P-5MlOcc
Game was buggy as fuck AND crashed like ass on release. At least Fallout 4 doesn't crash every 4 mintues like Witcher 3 did to most users.
If we're going by polish then MGSV wins
>>316648860
>dijkstra spends entire game complaining about how damaged his leg is
>game mentions last time geralt shoved dijkstra he damaged his leg
>character entry mentions how damaged his leg is
>options stresses that it will be forcible
>hurr durr why did forcibly shoving him break his leg
I'm reading that most of the 0/10 ratings are from people with brand new accounts on metacritic that rated the game badly on all 3 platforms.
Some sort of competitive strategy from other game companies perhaps? Who fucking knows.
>read user reviews for fallout 4
>most of them are poorly written, copy-pasted and obviously most of them haven't even played more than an hour
>immediately disregard
>>316649146
>literally arguing the fact that Witcher 3s logic is "shove =/= breaking a fucking leg"
Witchershills are the most insufferable fanbase on /v/, prove me wrong
I do see the witcher 3 winning the majority of awards and here is why,
>massive world
>Decent gameplay
>good writing and great characters
>lots and lots of content
>the developers are beloved
>grest graphics and a great soundtrack
Now should it win? It can be argued either way if it should or shouldn't and it has it' flaws, however in the year 2015 it has everything that the critics look for. I can see other games stealing a few awards but I don't see the witcher 3 losing that many.
>>316648936
He's right though.
The Witcher 3 is rather hard to get into.
It's inherently boring and dull despite various ~zany~ and dramatic characters being spread throughout.
>oh look we're in a small village
>there's a big bird attacking the village
>let's sort it out
>but first talk to the people in the inn and play magic the gathering with this one dude, or you can piss off these other dudes
>now go to this nearby fort occupied by soldiers
>foreign soldiers
>now go here to get X so you can summon the big bird and defeat it
and it just goes on like this and it just gives you a never ending list of things to do in this vast psuedo-northern-slavic open world area that vaguely steals from tolkien like most rpgs.
and then there's also the references to previous games which you'll obviously miss out on if you don't play W1 and 2.
So then you've got to slog through 1's tediousness and 2's dullness
I just can't get comfy
>>316649281
It won't win the majority of the awards for the same reason Dying Light (another great selling game) won't.
They were flavor of the month games
>pic related
>5 year old Bethesda game with over double the player count
Witcher 3 doesn't stand a chance tbqh senpai
>Witcher 3 with Dragon's Dogma style of combat, exploration, character creation etc.
YES.
>>316647680
Wouldn't a large number of people get Witcher 3 from GOG? I know I sure as hell did since I could get it cheaper that way.
>>316649409
You do realize that popularity has nothing to do with goty, right?
>>316649485
Even if you add a whole 100k users from GoG it still would get curb stomped by Fallout 4
I think W3 is majorly overrated.
The game does everything it wants to do excellently, but its just so fucking boring, I can't be bothered to finish it.
>>316649409
Dying Light scored in the 70s on metacritic, Witcher 3 has a 92 on PS4, making it tied for the second highest rated game of 2015.
Who cares about how many played a game on Steam? League of Legends wrecks both games in terms of player count, doesn't make it GOTY. On consoles GTA V and Call of Duty are destroying both.
>>316649514
>popularity has nothing to do with GoTY
I bet you think Oscars go to the most worthy movies too you fucking naive faggot
>>316649124
>>316649357
Nah you're both just retarded, especially if you look at The Witcher, a series that takes place in a low-fantasy setting and compare to Tolkien, of all things.
And what you're describing is literally every single open-world game where you "go there" and "do that" until you get to the end. As for it being boring, that's up to your personal taste, but The Witcher 3 blows most other games out of the water completely when it comes to writing. If it's not your cup of tea it's one thing, but if you think it's boring because of pacing or poor writing or characterization, you're just an idiot.
Where are the knives.
>user reviews
>>316649846
There's nothing low fantasy about The Witcher games. Nobody is throwing out fireballs or teleporting behind you in The Lord of the Rings.
>>316649846
>u insulted muh precious game that I consider goty
>ergo you're retarded
and yes open world games are inherently boring
the witcher 3 is just exceptionally good at being boring
it's like a girl that has really nice tits and ass and hips and a pretty face, heck she's pretty intelligent and keeps herself clean and isn't a slut
but when it comes to being with her and hanging out/dating/whatever, she just ends up being the most boring and dull person, and it's up to people's own tolerances to put up with the dull and boring stuff to get a nice piece of ass.
>>316649846
>Witcher 3
>low tier fantasy
You don't know what low tier is do you? Witcher 3 is the literal definition of high tier fantasy and the only thing separating it from tolkien is "MUH EDGY TITS" that GoT faggots use to justify liking the complete bottom tier genre of literature
>And what you're describing is literally every single open-world game where you "go there" and "do that"
Nah senpai, most open world games give options. Far Cry offers stealth, GTA V has vehicles tanks and airplanes, MGSV has all of the above, Fallout 4 has different play styles and builds mixed in with Stealth, same with Skyrim.
Witcher 3 has 3 variations of a swordsman (Alchemy+Swords, Signs+Swords or pure swords) and witcher senses that damn near every quest revolve around (Literally EVERY Witcher contract revolves around them).
>>316647036
> Casual Souls as the best game of the year
>>316649930
W3 still does better with "professional" reviews anyway fagl0rd.
WITCHERKEKS GETTING BTFO
What happened?Are most of them playing Fallout 4?
>>316646943
>Gaming Personality - PewDiePie
>Bothering to mention e-sports at all.
>Best Gaming Platform – Steam
>Best Family Game – Splatoon
>Best Gaming Performance – Ashly Burch as Chloe in Life Is Strange
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
>>316650362
Changes nothing still beating Fallout 4
>>316649930
>Professional reviews
>>316649998
>The Witcher stories fit very much. and considered for the most part, a posterchild of low fantasy. While the series has some high fantasy elements, low fantasy concepts, the human condition, drive the fantasy of the world, curses and monsters are driven from failure in humanity, and war and social strife come from realistic human power struggles and fear far more than anything.
>>316650412
In Metacritic? Cool, still not winning GoTY if it goes by Metacritic. Popularity and relevance? Fucking Batham Arkham Dyke is more relevant than Witcher 3 (not even joking, it stomped Witcher 3 in sales).
Witcher 3 is pure mediocrity, doesn't excel anywhere and will be forgotten because of this. Fallout 4 will be remembered because mods and the longevity Beth games have, MGSV due to its metacritic.
:^)
>>316646379
apparently scriptfags like W3 more than Fallout 4.
WHO KNEW?
>>316646379let the bodies hit the floor..
>>316649998
>>316650137
Uh, neither of you know what low fantasy is. Gray-on-gray morality, flawed (as opposed to heroic) protagonists, mundane (as opposed to fantastical) settings, etc.
You're actually retarded if you think The Witcher is high-fantasy or Tolkienesque.
>>316650469
https://www.google.ch/search?q=Low+fantasy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=HAZIVv_vDYu7UY-ThMgB
>Low fantasy stories are set either in the real world or a fictional but rational world, and are contrasted with high fantasy stories which take place in a completely fictional fantasy world setting with its own set of rules and physical laws.
If you consider a world with witches, giant toads, dwarves, dragons, ghouls etc as a 'rational/realistic world' then yea, I guess Witcher 3 is low fantasy
>>316650469
Witcher is high fantasy
LoTR is also high fantasy
If it has any kind of magic, supernatural occurrences, or otherworldly creatures, it's high fantasy.
A low fantasy game would be something like Mount and Blade
>>316650648
see
>>316650680
Witcher 3 is the literal definition of high fantasy. I swear, Witcherfags think their game is some holy grail/revolutionary form of media when its ironically the most generic piece of writing out there.
It's high tier, low tier fantasy does not have fucking dragons, dwarves, elves and witches faggot. It's no more low fantasy than Lord of the ring, stay mad
>>316650137
The game gives you options. The choices you make can completely change how a story turns out and can have permanent, world-changing outcomes. What the fuck are you talking about?
No.
>>316650680
BTFO
T
F
O
>>316650735
>A low fantasy game would be something like Mount and Blade
>a game clearly lacking any kind of fantasy elements
>>316650910
>completely change how the world turns out
>literal 20 second powerpoint presentation at the end of the game
>>316650965
Fantasy is just another word for fiction
>>316650965
>he thinks fantasy has to include dragons and elves
>being this narrow minded
I knew Withcerkeks were the complete lowest common denominator but holy shit
>>316651156
Uh
>Low fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy fiction involving "nonrational happenings that are without causality or rationality because they occur in the rational world where such things are not supposed to occur."[1] Low fantasy stories are set either in the real world or a fictional but rational world, and are contrasted with high fantasy stories which take place in a completely fictional fantasy world setting with its own set of rules and physical laws.
It should be, but CDPR don't seem to be the kind of people to pay off "journalists" so Fallout 4 will almost certainly win it.
>>316650945
CHeers senpai but I already posted it
See: >>316647921
It pretty much got ignored as was expected
>>316650965
Holy fuck you're retarded
>>316650868
>>316650680
>>316650735
Magical creatures can absolutely be present in low-fantasy though. What makes something high or low fantasy isn't just whether or not there's magic in the world, but also the overarching themes and other elements.
Like I said, you guys just have no idea what you're talking about.
http://bestfantasybooks.com/low-fantasy.html
You guys don't seem to know what low fanasty is.
>>316651238
>in a rational world
>Low fantasy can either be in the real world
>in the real world
>real world
>rational
>real
Look at the examples faggot, it literally lists Mount and Blade as an example of low fantasy in gaming
>>316651061
The choices you make in early missions determine whether or not story-critical characters live or die or ever show up at all in the future. The way quests turn out can completely change depending on your choices.
Have you even played the game?
>>316651385
Just because their interpretation is on a website, doesnt make it any more valid that ours.
If anything, that website is wrong, because at least 3 people here disagree with your 1 source.
>>316646379
Why does GOTY matter exactly?
So you can somehow justify spending 60$ on a game?
>>316651376
>magical creatures
>elves
>Dwarves
>time travel
>dragons
>djinns
>sorcererrs
>Witches
>Wizards
Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter and Skyrim confirmed for complete lowest form of fantasy around
:^)
>>316651521
Wikipedia has the same thing to say about low fantasy, though.
Maybe those 3 people are just morons. ;)
>>316651462
Yep, completed it and there is absolutely close to no real world affecting choices nor is there any variety in the gameplay, the game is fucking boring and I only stuck through it because I liked the Witcher characters
Yes. It was the only.game.I enjoyed all the way through. And I thought the gameplay wasn't even that good. Goty
>>316651521
And your right but your interpretation doesn't mean your right as well and I am not the only guy who is saying it's low fanasty.
>>316651521
>objective definitions stop being right if someone disagrees with them
Holy fuck, am I on Tumblr? Go back to that shithole and never return, you fucking faggot.
>>316651710
No it doesn't.
See: >>316650680
Fuck you OP, don't draw these morons to TW3's meta critic.
This place is fucking /b/ with videogames.
>>316651572
>Harry Potter
Heroic characters, good/evil morality, coming-of-age themes, magic so common that it's almost mundane.
>Skyrim
The Elder Scrolls in general is full of larger-than-life heroic and messianic characters who save the world single-handedly over and over again.
Y'all are actually just retarded, and have no idea what the words you try to use mean.
>>316651871
>objective definitions
Ok senpai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_fantasy
> Low fantasy stories are set either in the real world or a fictional but rational world, and are contrasted with high fantasy stories which take place in a completely fictional fantasy world setting with its own set of rules and physical laws.
Guess Wikipedias objective definition >>>> your one then, right?
>>316646379
>Is W3 a lockdown for GOTY?
Aren't there like 500 different GOTY sites/magazines/blogs/etc. now? At this point wtf is even a sought after award?
I'm glad people are opening their eyes with bethesda games.
https://landsquidattack.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/subgenre-study-high-and-low-fantasy/
Here have another source.
>>316652030
>Low fantasy places relatively less emphasis on typical elements associated with fantasy, setting a narrative in real-world environments with elements of the fantastical. Sometimes there are just enough fantastical elements to make ambiguous the boundary between what is real and what is purely psychological or supernatural.
Holy shit you didn't even read the second paragraph.
>>316652015
>Geralt and Mary Sue Ciri
>Geralt, a monster slayer gets embroiled in assinations of kings and essentially saves the world from the white frost
Witcher 3 isn't any better faggot, Witcher 3 is not high fantasy at all. This is ridiculous, it has just as many high fantasy traits as Lord of the Rings
>>316651961
Why are you here?
>>316651883
It does, though. By the very definition you quoted.
Witcher might as well take place in some medieval Polish shithole and the supernatural occurrences have their own science behind them.
>>316652030
See what I posted above. You clearly don't understand what you quoted, you mumbling idiot.
>>316646379
BLOODBORNE
GOTY
>>316652146
>ambiguous boundries =/= dragons, witches, sorceresses, time travel, monsters and ghouls
Holy shit you're right, it proves my point even more
>>316650735
>If it has any kind of magic, it's high fantasy.
Where did you pull that definition from? Your ass? Literally every single definition of "low fantasy" allows for magic and mythical creatures.
Did you even try googling "low fantasy" at all before posting bullshit?
>none of the Witcher games includes Geralt's headband
>>316652270
Damn son, you full-on mad.
I guess getting BTFO does that to people.
No matter what anyone says, this is 100% the definitive truth. They are completely right too.
I tried, I tried so hard to shill and love Fallout 4. I even relentlessly defended it here daily.
Nearly 6 hours into and I'm done with it entirely.
Did a very poor job drawing me in, wasn't engaging and by the time I stopped playing I noticed I didn't give a single hoot about returning to the game.
The only reason I haven't completely forgot Fallout 4 exists is because /v/ constantly reminds me.
What in the hell went wrong with FO4?
>>316652146
>ambiguous boundries
>Witcher 3s monsters, mutants, dragons, wyverns, sea monsters, wizards and witches are now considered as 'ambiguous boundries'
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGHWatching Witcherfags slowly realize just how generic their game is truly is a sight for sore eyes
>>316652290
Those definitions are wrong.
Low fantasy is essentially Medieval fiction. Maybe with some unrealistically large animals, like giant wolves/bears, but that's as fantastical as a low fantasy should get IMO
>>316646379
Nothing is guaranteed at this point.
>>316652146
>Witcher 3s world is now considered 'ambiguous'
>>316652432
>Those definitions are wrong.
I AM on Tumblr after all.
You fucking people, man.
>>316652270
>>316652414
>Sometimes there are just enough fantastical elements to make ambiguous the boundary
>Sometimes there are just enough fantastical elements
>Sometimes there are just
>Sometimes there
>Sometimes
Damn dude you even skipped the first word in that sentence: "sometimes".
There is no definition of low-fantasy that totally excludes fantastical elements like magic or monsters. It's just as much to do with the themes as it is to do with the fauna of the world.
>>316652432
>it's not me who is wrong! it's the world!
The word you're looking for is "alternative history" or something similar. Low fantasy is a derivative of heroic fantasy, and the term always allowed for some form of magic and mythical creatures.
>>316652547
>>316652414
>>316652270
All me btw ;)
>>316652676
C U T Esaved
>>316652583
Do you know what ambiguous means? How the fuck are fire breathing dragons, time traveling elves and fucking wizards ambiguous to the point where "you don't know if its real or not"?
Holy shit, read your own definition faggot. Using your logic literally nothing is high fantasy and eveyrthing is low fantasy.
I can't even believe this is being discussed, Witcher 3 is as high fantasy as it gets
>>316652575
Language is subjective.
I bend words to my will, and make them work for me.
I'm what they call a "dominant linguist"
>my face when this thread
When did The Witcher turn into such a shitposting magnet?
BTFO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high_fantasy_fiction
>list of high fantasy fiction
>Witcher saga
GET FUCKING REKT
>>316652432
You're literally making up your own definition of low fanasty. Low fanasty has always allowed for mythical creatures and magic but then again I can see that you guys probably just think that there are only two genes of fanasty when there is actually far more. Educate yourself before you try to debate.
>>316652816
because it's shit
>>316652730
>>>/vg/wtc
back to your containment board
>>316652741
>I bend words to my will, and make them work for me.
I do the same with your mom, you fucking faggot.
>>316652816
It's literally ways been this way. Get used to it.
There is no such thing as a civil witcher thread on /v/.
>>316652816
Because it's fanbase is filled with autistic manbabbies who think their series is something more than it is. The fact that they think 'high fantasy' is some sort of a negative connotation tot he point where they will completely denounce the definition and brand Witcher 3 as something it's not (probably because "high fantasy is too popular, muh Witcher 3 totally isn't generic uguize") .
>>316652362
Theres a mod for it in TW1 but it looks shit.
>>316652906
That's a hug box though, why would anyone want to go there?
Sounds more like you need to go back to reddit or >>>/trash/
It's only your fault if you get triggered when someone disagrees with you m8.
>>316647921
Is the ebin screencap (not yours of course) supposed to mean something? Maybe 5 quests in the game have that witcher senses needed
>>316652846
>ASoIaF also on that list
Yeah, no. The list is shit and you know it.
>>316652850
literal flames come out of a guys hands towards a mystical griffin
>low fantasy has some hiccups, but it's still rational
>>316652846
Whelp, there rit is. Witcherfags can go back to discussing their dead game now
>>316652734
I mean, I don't know how many times I have to repeat it, or how many times people have to post links to definitions, but having magic and monsters alone doesn't make something high fantasy. I said this earlier and I'll say it again since you're retarded, but low-fantasy often has more to do with the literary elements: themes, characterization, etc.
I hate to use the word but the Witcher 3 takes place is a gritty world, with gray-on-gray or gray-on-black morality. There are no "heroes". The characters are all flawed. The scope of the story is usually restricted to the main characters, who just don't have the ability to "save the world" once and for all.
You are an idiot and need to read a book, anon.
>>316653062
>Game of thrones
>Fucking dragons, priestesses, giants and white walkers
>not high fantasy
Loving your tears tbqh senpai
>>316653061
thats just a flat out lie
>>316652410
I bet a whole pile of fanboys raged at that review.
>>316647036
>feelguy blocking MGSV's xbox score because it was lower than W3's
I liked FO4.
Who the fuck cares about Witcher 3, some gay romance game with shitty world-building?
>>316652493
2015 was great.
>fallout 4
good
>rise of tomb raider
good
>fatal frame
good but censored in the west, fucking bullshit
>yoshi's wooly world
good
>yokai watch
good
total war attilla redeemed rome 2, witcher 3, bamham, mgs5 and bloodborne are all good games.
there's also undertale, which was good too.
Pretty much every platform got good games this year. No greatest game of all time contenders, but most of them were good. All of the major ones just got some flaws that get blown all out of proportion, leading to the doomsday cries of "VIDYA IS DEAD" which by the way, are repeated every year.
>>316653167
They won't care. They will just shitpost and say you're wrong. No point in arguing.
>>316653118
>Witcherfags can go back to discussing their dead game now
Don't mind if I do.
So who is ready for the next TW3 expansion in 2016?
Blood&Wine will most likely be even better than HoS, and that shit was great, just more icing on a delicious cake.
I wouldn't want Fallout 4 to be GOTY for the simple reason that its complete lack of technical polish is such a deep insult to consumers everywhere.
Everyone would fucking laugh at a book that became a nominee to win the Nobel Prize for Literature contained multiple spelling errors every 2-3 paragraphs. Fallout 4 is basically in the same scenario.
It doesn't matter if they're good games/books, they're still embarrassments to their respective mediums.
Yes, I know that many games are often released with bugs and broken shit, but rarely have such high-profile titles been released in this bad of a state as Fallout 4.
>>316653221
>implying low fantasy excluded magic entirely
I don't even know why you're so worked up, anon. Still doesn't make you less wrong.
>>316653325
>you
>talking with yourself after getting BTFO
>>316647036
Pls
>>316653325
Yeah.
I wonder if they realize that LOTR, the poster-child of High Fantasy, took place in a low-magic world.
>>316653318
You're right but look where you are. /v/ hates games.
Bloodborne. This year was a bit odd, the contenders are all pretty great, but anything outside of BB/FO4/MGSV/TW3/MM/MH4U is pretty awful.
I think the DLC right before the end of the year will be the thing that locks it.
>>316653409
>resorts to le "umadbro" after getting completely savaged
Ah well, feels good. I'll leave you guys to discuss your confirmed high fantasy game now in peace>inb4 the thread dies in the next 3 minutes because their game is literal who tier
>>316653358
THEY BETTER BRING BACK REGISOR AT LEAST LET US BANG HIS SUCCUBI-FU
>>316646379
>graphics whore
Its funny because Witcher 3 took some long ass time to actually look like it did in the E3 videos.
>>316653551
>wanting to fuck a succubus
>not cutting her head off
>>>/x/
>>316653560
>to look like it did
>implying it's even close
>>316652846
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Low_fantasy_novels
>dresden files
one of the books is literally called "laws of magic" m8.
Low fantasy does not preclude magic.
>>316652734
>I can't even believe this is being discussed, Witcher 3 is as high fantasy as it gets
According to the very definition you posted, "low fantasy" doesn't exclude fantastic elements like magic. In case of The Witcher, it's a rational world inspired by medieval Poland with the occasional supernatural occurance. Magic isn't even part of everybody's everyday life, only Geralt's who happens to deal with it professionally.
To cut a long story short: You're wrong according to your own definition.
Regards, /lit/
>>316646379
it's not even close
W3 = good game
MGSV = mediocre
FO4 = garbage
Do I think W3's GOTY? No. But it's better than fo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdkLr9hflyw
M A S T ER - P E I C E
>>316653694
>he spent all this time scouring through the low tier fantasy section to find Witcher
>couldn't find it
>resorts to some literal who book instead
Witcher is confirmed high tier senpai ;) Unless that book has dragons, wizards, ghouls, wyverns, Griffons, Manticores, mermaids, dwarves, dopplers and literally any form of high fantasy you can imagien like the Witcherverse then it's still more low fantasy than Witcher :^)
Now unrustle those jimmies and realize that Witcher is just as generic as the rest of the uninspired high fantasy genre
>>316653358
When will it be released? And how will the pricing be? I thought about getting the season pass.
Using Metacritic user reviews as a base for an argument about an arbitrary GOTY award is like trying to figure out which college is the best by comparing the comments on their Facebook pages. It's a fucking useless argument that nobody cares about. If you need to have your opinion validated by an award, then you suck at like.
People like different things. Get over it.
>>316653358
Pretty pumped. Can't wait to see Toussaint. Too bad my boy Reynart is dead.
>>316653901
Probably 20$.
>the DLC is now scheduled for first half of 2016 (January-June)
>>316653821
>W3 = good game
>MGSV = mediocre
>FO4 = garbage
you know how i know youre a shill?
>>316653543
You are dumb.
>>316653865
>listen to this
>sudden urge to reinstall
Fuck no, I've got other shit to do.
>>316647036
Sonycvck pls.
>>316653897
So you do accept that low fantasy allows for magic and fantastical creatures?
>inb4 b-b-but the argument was about witcher
no it wasn't. The argument is about whether low fantasy can have magic or not. Thanks for playing.
>>316653543
It's alright, bro. Keep the tears coming.
>>316652816
welcome to 4chan newfag.
>>316653905
>which college is the best by comparing the comments on their Facebook pages.
I'd say it's harvard. It clearly has the best facebook page.
>>316652816
Since the downgrade
like seriously m8, have you never posted in a witcher 3 thread before?
>>316654243
Nope, the argument was if Witcher was high or low fantasy. Scroll up senpai (see: >>316649846) and the book you sourced doesn't have fantastical creatures (i.e in relations to the initial argument, manticores, wyverns, dragons, ghouls, nekkers, niggers, mermaids, dopplers, dwarves etc)
>>316654038
you know how I know you are retarded?
>>316653905
What I find pathetic about people using Metacritic is that the very same people who say that a game THEY LIKE is good because it got high reviews on Metacritic would be the first to ignore Metacritic if it gave a game they like bad scores.
Or if a game they DIDN'T LIKE got high scores, they'd be the first to say that reviews don't matter.
It's just pure hypocrisy.
People love using Metacritic only when it conveniently suits their purposes.
I wish the site didn't exist. Same with Rotten Tomatoes when it came to movies, or just about any popular "ratings/reviews" site.
>>316654465
>and the book you sourced doesn't have fantastical creatures
>The books are written as a first person narrative from the perspective of the main character, private investigator and wizard Harry Dresden, as he recounts investigations into supernatural disturbances in modern-day Chicago.
>>316654654
>inb4 he moves goal posts again
>>316654465
The argument was about low fantasy
>>316650735
>If it has any kind of magic, supernatural occurrences, or otherworldly creatures, it's high fantasy
But it's fine, we can come to an agreement. You can accept that low fantasy can have magic, I'll take wikipedias word that witcher 3 is high fantasy (despite not fitting the definion on it's own article about high fantasy)
>the book you sourced doesn't have fantastical creatures
it has magic and supernatural creatures. Have you never read the dresden files m8? They're pretty famous for fantasy books m8.
>>316654654
>supernatural disturbances =/= manticores dragons, dwarves, dopplers etc
Ghost documentaries confirmed for high fantasy
>>316654896
Called it. >>316654803
>>316654896
By your definition, why wouldn't they be?
>>316654896
>private investigator AND WIZARD
>no magic or supernatural creatures
What, wizards aren't magical or supernatural now? Also there are vampires and shit.
>>316654803
>moves goalposts
>initial argument was purely about Witcher 3 and which genre of fantasy it fitted in
The mental gymnasts are truly glorious to behold
>>316654548
I totally agree. People forget that almost ALL reviews of any product are based on one experience and one opinion. It's almost always biased in some form or other.
I'm not a fan of the movie Space Balls. It just wasn't for me, but it is a popular movie and other people have good things to say about it. And that's fine. I don't just go around shitting on people because I didn't like the movie. I respect someone else's opinion and just leave it at that.
>>316655048
They really are. >>316654654
What has the game done to you that your shitposting is this dedicated? Or was a Witcher fan mean to you?
>>316654890
>i'll accept that Witcher 3 is high fantasy
All we wanted to hear senpai, nice talking. Carry on discussing yourdedgame now
>>316654964
He's a well known troll who has been doxxed before. He literally just trolls in every thread and always gets btfo. Just ignore him guys.
>>316654896
>>316655048
>In the world of The Dresden Files, magic is real, along with vampires, demons, spirits, faeries, werewolves, outsiders and other monsters
>>316655183
Well, as long as you know what low fantasy means now. Is it so hard to accept you don't know what words mean? If you just said "witcher 3 is high fantasy because..." without making shit up about low fantasy we wouldn't have wasted so much time.
>>316655149
>Witcherfag claims Witcher is a low fantasy series that differs from high fantasy
>gets anally annhilated
>"b-but this literal who book has a detetctive who hunts for ghosts, d-don't move goalposts, the whole argument was about magic and low fantasy or something!"
>don't move goalposts
>>316655130
Lots of people are insecure about their views.
They need validation from crowds, both professional and non-professional, to make them feel secure about the movies/games/music/etc that they like or dislike.
They can't just simply like a game. They have to find "professional" individuals validating their feelings towards the game. The same goes when they don't like a game. They need that validation.
>>316655341
I thought you said you were leaving, anon?
>>316655183
>>316655417
I agree though I do think metacritic serves a purpose but it gets abused.If I am interested in a a game and it scores 70 or higher then I will buy it at launch. If it scores lower then I will wait for it to go on sale as that means there is usually some problems that will prevent me from enjoying it at launch.
wow.... is this thread for real.... or high tier fantasy...
>high and low argument ends
>Everybody stops discussing the witcher 3
What a fucking dead game
>Witcher
>GOTY
Nah. I got my own choices for it. I prefer games that aren't overhyped triple A mature games.
>>316655341
>gets anally annhilated
How? The list doesn't reflect the article's definition.
The point is: If Witcher is high fantasy for featuring magic and supernatural creatures, so is The Dresden Files. And yet one is in the low fantasy list while the other is in the high fantasy one.
Stop being so mad, anon.
CDkeks getting BTFO
>>316655341
>faggot doesn't know what words mean
>gets educated
>still tries to take the high ground by saying that's not what the argument is about
>>316655761
>Undertale and Besieged in great tier
>LITERAL meme games
>lists unreleased games
Please kill yourself.
>>316655774
JUST
>>316655958
Okay, then take Undertale and Besieged out if you dislike them. Those are kind of controversial choices based on personal enjoyment, but the rest of the list is a little more clear cut.
>m-muh unreleased games
If it's on a console, I can assure you it won't live up to hype.
Question about the Witcher DLC: Will I need to start a new game or can I play with my post-game save?
is sempai and desu a world-filter for something, I keep seeing it. I got what kek means but those two I don't get it.
>>316655958
>meme games
Since we're talking about genre definitions in this thread, what is a meme game anon-kun?
>>316655770
>>316655775
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high_fantasy_fiction
>list of high fantasy fiction
>Witcher saga
>>316655958
Don't reply to ACfag, please.
>>316656148
With Hearts of Stone you have the option to start a new game just for it. You will be given a level 30 Geralt with some decent gear, and the main quest will be disabled.
>>316656148
You can use your post game save state.
>>316656230
>still can't accept that he doesn't know what words mean
>>316656297
Forgot to answer you question, yes you can play with a post game save.
>>316656297
>>316656343
>>316656434
That's dope, thanks anons.
I'll get the season pass.
>>316656387
Whatever the word means, the Witcher 3 fits it (which was the initial argument)
>>316656187
A game which gains popularity and momentum from having memes created from it.
>>316656471
good, you accept your ignorance. That's the first step to learn something.
>all this conjecture/misinformation in this thread
As an avid book reader (who acknowledges fantasy as the complete lowest form of literacy available).
>Low Fantasy - Most cases the real world with fantastical elements added (i,e Harry Potter for example) and in other cases, any sort of a medieval setting that is shrouded in realism. Essentially anything that you could actually picture being plausible in the real world
>High Fantasy - Anything that is completely fictional with completely fictional entities and monsters usually involving dragons, higher magic, kingdoms, monsters and the like (i.e Lord of the Rings). Essentially nothing that you would deem possible in the real world
Witcher 3 is DEFINITELY High Fantasy.
>>316656581
>le squid is a kid XD
>finish le fight XD
>le played like a fiddle xD!
I guess every game this year is a meme game.
>>316656581
>A game which gains popularity and momentum from having memes created from it.
That makes sense. But nothing in that definition makes an argument about the actual quality of the game. People use the term as an insult, but from what I see, you can have a game that was made popular trough memes, while still being a good game.
>>316656724
>tfw you win an argument
>>316656951
Too bad you will never know that feel. ;)
Man, it's gonna be so much fun to drink in all the salty tears of MGSV and Fallout 4 fags tears when not only the Witcher 3 wins GOTY but also takes home most of the awards. Sure the fags love to talk shit about the game but we all know that each night they are beating away at their tiny cocks, breathing heavily as they look to their bedroom doors, praying that Geralt will burst in and plough them. Witcher 3 GOTY EVERY YEAR. THIS I LIKE.
>>316656824
>Low Fantasy - Most cases the real world with fantastical elements added (i,e Harry Potter for example) and in other cases, any sort of a medieval setting that is shrouded in realism. Essentially anything that you could actually picture being plausible in the real world
You do realize that you posted two different mutually exclusive definitions right?
>>316646379
why wasnt there a fan backlash against Witcher 3?
>>316656824
/lit/ here, stick to reading.
>>316657006
>initial argument
>Is Witcher 3 high fantasy or low fantasy
>my stance: "It's high fantasy"
>your stance: "It's low fantasy"
>actuality: It's high fantasy
;^)
>people honestly think fallout 4 won't win goty
You really think goty is about quality of the game? Fallout 4 could be the worst game ever made, with more game-breaking bugs and horrible design decisions then big rigs over the road racing and it would still win goty.
>>316657296
Wait. You, alone, were the one replying to everyone posting about low vs high fantasy in this thread? Seriously?
>>316657296
>inconclusive list says it's high fantasy
>actual definition says it's low fantasy
