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here are the 3 contenders for GOTY all three of them excel in
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here are the 3 contenders for GOTY
all three of them excel in one aspect of gaming, while lacking in the other 2
so tell me /v/, which game is your GOTY? Which aspect is the most important?
graphics?
story?
or gameplay?

last thread there was a lot of shitposting and shilling so let me clear things up
>MGSV had barely any story but still managed to fuck up the main plot of the series. the gameplay falls flat for a stealth game, you have all these items yet it's not even worth using them as you can storm in guns blazing. But boy is the Fox Engine amazing
>Undertale graphics are obviously not it's greatest aspect. the gameplay is pretty unique but at the end of the day it's just bullet hell minigames and make sure you don't kill your enemy in the final hit. The fans praise it mostly for it's storyline, characters and writing
>Fallout 4 has Bethesda graphics and Bethesda storyline, but most people play it for the exploration, going on quests, killing monsters just general gameplay without paying too much attention to the story
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>>316622563
>the gameplay falls flat for a stealth game
You're an idiot. Because you can play it as an action game doesn't mean it falls flat as a stealth game.
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>>316622563
>Fallout 4
>Gameplay
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>>316622563
Gameplay is the most important in a game followed by graphics then story.

Undertale is flavour of the month and a rip off of Lisa
MGS V looked amazing and player really well
Fallout 4 is just awful to play awful to look at and has an awful story. Fallout 4 shouldn't even be classed as an RPG.
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>>316622563
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>316622693
yes it does you fucking faggot, if you can get through the game without using stealth it might as well not be a stealth game
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>Undertale
Too pretentious, pandered to tumblr. WAY TOO MUCH STORY.

>MGSV
Violent murder simulator. For the MATOOR GAYMERS. Too much story.

>Fallout 4
Also a violent murder simulator. FOR LE MATURE GAYMERS. Again, way too much story.

Honestly? None of them deserve GOTY. I refuse to tolerate games that have realistic graphics and want to be movies, or games that sacrifice gameplay for narrative.

You wanna name me a good game this year, give me a title that has less than 10 minutes of cutscenes, has amazing gameplay, is optimized for PC hardware, can reach 60 FPS and 1080p, and isn't trying to be realistic in the slightest.
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>>316622894
It isn't a sleath game. It's an open world sandbox game, you can tackle each and every mission how you want, which is why they allow you to pick your inventory loadouts. Once again, you're an idiot.
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>>316623085
>Too much story.
Don't talk about shit you don't know.
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>>316622821
>Gameplay is the most important in a game followed by graphics then story
Nah.
We aren't in the 80-90's anymore, grandpa.
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>>316623085
Crypt of the Necrodancer
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>>316623085
>10 minutes of cutscenes, has amazing gameplay, is optimized for PC hardware, can reach 60 FPS and 1080p, and isn't trying to be realistic in the slightest.

...MGSV?
You seriously haven't played any of these games, have you?
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>>316623182

Am I supposed to play video games, or am I supposed to watch them?

See,I'm paying money here, so I want to PLAY and ENJOY my game. If I'm watching cutscenes, that's not happening.
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>>316623182
>barely a minute after posting
>undertale internet defense force already out to whine and bitch
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>>316622563
>Which aspect is the most important?
Gameplay, which is why Monster Hunter is GOTY.
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>>316622563

Can someone replace tumblrtale with TW3?
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>>316623185
Looks like the UDF are here
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>>316623328
>>316623318
I think he's trying to say that MGSV has no story.
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You know the real winner
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>>316623303

>...MGSV?
Way too much story, too many cutscenes, too much dialogue. Gameplay is average, with the stupid violence and boring sneaking. If I wanted to shoot people, I'd play Call of Duty. if I wanted to sneak, I'd play Thief.

It's not optimized for PC hardware, since I can't mod it or access the content they cut out.

It can't even reach 50 FPS on lowest settings, because the new engine is far from perfect.

Also, way too realistic. I don't want any graphics that look even remotely like the real world. We've become a society obsessed with realism, and it's gotten out of control.
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>>316623328
>Doesn't even read posts
Retard post force is in full effect!
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>>316623085
Just Cause 3
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>>316622563
"ONLY PC GAMES CAN BE GOTY!"

Multiplats suck cock. The best games this year we're exclusives like splatoon, mario maker, halo 5, until dawn, and bloodborne
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>>316623318
Again, don't talk about shit you don't know. MGSV's story is few and far between.

>>316623328
>Undertale
That fucking reading comprehension you got there, buddy.
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>>316623434

MGS still had too much story. I instantly dropped the game the second Quiet showed up and cried about how she needs to breathe through her skin, but in the customization menu you can put a heavy jacket on her.

Bravo Kojima.
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>>316623085
you're one of those purist faggots that only care about gameplay
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>>316623596
> I instantly dropped the game the second Quiet showed up and cried about how she needs to breathe through her skin
AT LEAST FUCKING PRETEND YOU PLAYED THE GAME, HOLY SHIT
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>>316623568

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeV992m7L84

>5
>HOURS
>OF
>CUTSCENES

>"it doesn't have too much"

This game could have several billion hours of gameplay, but it would not be enough to suffer through that.
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I haven't played any of those. Splatoon is goty
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>>316622563
unfinished
undershit
shit

MH4U if you're into autistic grinding, nothing if you aren't
this year was even worse than the last.
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>>316623596
>MGS still had too much story
I hope you realize how stupid this makes you seem to anyone that actually did play the game, and invalidates you and your opinion.
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>MGSV
Unfinished, also broke a critical plot hole in which Big Boss became a snatcher in MG2 desu.
Graphics are amazing for a low end pc
Gameplay is the best

>Undertale
nothing wrong about it, graphics are indie casual crap and gameplay is just simplified like a regular rpg

>Fallout 4
Crap story with crap ending. Graphics are a bust, but gameplay is well.

Everyone's opinion on here desu
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>>316623818
see>>316623759

"Not a movie" you say. HAH. That's a laugh.
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>>316623496
You definitively didn't play it.
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>>316622563
But MGSV's strong point is its gameplay, not its graphics or story. And in that department it's really great.

I don't know why Fallout is in there like it's good at any of those three.

Witcher could easily take a spot under story or graphics, and its gameplay is ok.
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>>316623938

You can't play a movie, anon. You can only skip through it with the fast forward button.
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What is it about MGSV in particular that makes it so obvious that you haven't played it?
Did Bethesda's marketing team not even bother to learn their competition? Why do they get away with this?
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>>316623759
>>316623918
That's a supercut with gameplay and additional bonus scenes cut into it.

It's also the longest one on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojB8jsBf-NE
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>>316622563
>This thread again
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>>316623918
So you don't realize. Neat.
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>>316622563
Bloodborne came out this year. I know that's easy to forget, but it did.
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>>316622563
replace all of those with Witcher 3
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>>316624143
To be fair three and a half hours of cutscenes is still a lot.
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>>316624158
>>316624143

That's still WAY over 10 minutes, the maximum amount of story acceptable in a video game. So you haven't done much to argue in MGSV's favor.
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>Games unarguably better than Undertale in any reasonable's person opinion released in 2015 (Chronological order)
Bloodborne
Pillars of Eternity
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Super Mario Maker
The Age of Decadence

If you honestly disagree with any of the games listed above being better than Undertale, you're a retard and not worth listening to.


>Games that may or may not be better than Undertale but are about on par released in 2015 (Chronological order)
Blackguards 2
Cities: Skylines
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
Ori and the Blind Forest
Titan Souls
Crypt of the Necrodancer
Splatoon
Massive Chalice
Rocket League
Galak-Z: The Dimensional
Volume
Until Dawn
Soma
Prison Architect
Downwell
Yoshi's Woolly World
Rise of the Tomb Raider
StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void

If you honestly think Undertale is for sure better than every single one of all of the games listed above, you're a retard and not worth listening to.
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>>316624375
Jesus fucking christ I'm not even the guy you're going back and forth with but you are completely retarded.

Try actually playing the game.
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>>316624517
>Super Mario Maker
Not worth shit, and isn't better than shit. The entire rest of the list I'm fine with, but you're a faggot.
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>>316624517
>look mom! I posted it again!
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>>316624721

>playing the game

But you listed MGSV mate. I can't play a movie.
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>>316624517
>Anon's arguably more butthurt than you
None
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Fallout wins GOTY
Undertale wins indie GOTY

Fallout isn't BETTER then whatever game you think should get GOTY, but seeing as GOTY is 'measure of what normies like' F4 is what will win it.
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>>316622563
>so tell me /v/, which game is your GOTY?
The Age of Decadence
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>>316624375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8YkcOeOfQ
>Zelda OOT has too much cutscenes

Plus, you clearly haven't played it if you think it isn't optimized for PC hardware when the game runs on a toaster, or if you think it's too unrealistic when it revolves around mechanical walking nukes, photosynthetic snipers. eradication of the english language via parasites, and pretending a wolf is a dog

It all comes down to "amazing gameplay" which is mostly subjective.
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>>316624819
ok please tell me if you're trolling

If you are, I'm trolled, just tell me please.
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>>316622563
>so tell me /v/, which game is your GOTY?
So far Pathologic HD, but I'm hoping that pic related will change that.
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>>316624517
>Super Mario Maker

I don't get it. I love Mario games and have a good time playing Mario Maker, but it isn't that great. It feels like it's missing too much. Why pick a barebones level editor over all those games?
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>>316622563

if you want a thread about TW3, just say so OP, no reason to go jumping through hoops
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Why isn't Afterbirth in this list
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>>316622563

Bloodborne
Bloodborne
Bloodborne
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>>316625003

>Zelda OOT has too much cutscenes
YES, IT DOES. Why do you think I have such a hard time replaying it?

>new game
>BORING CUTSCENE
>goes on
>continues going on
>don't like it? lol no skip button
>finally control link
>get shield and sword
>ANOTHER LONG CUTSCENE
>throw cartridge in the trash

I'll never understand this "OOT is the best thing ever made" meme. The gameplay is fun, but honestly it's not worth suffering through the story.
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>>316625160

Bloodborne has excellent gameplay, but story and graphics? please anon...
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Witcher 3 > Bloodborne > MGSV my GOYS
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>>316622563
as someone who played mgs and fallout I can say without any doubt that 5 has better gameplay mechanics
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>>316625139
Cause it's not a game.
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>>316622563
>graphics
>story
>gameplay

Each of those games excells on one of those things

Bloodborne excells in all of them.
Checkmate friendos, BB is goty.
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>>316625139
As an expansion, Afterbirth added some shit content.
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>>316625302

Oho, yeah, you're right. Afterbirth is not a videogame, thanks /v/
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>>316625160

i'm only halfway through Bloodborne so please forgive my ignorance, but as far as story goes i still have no idea what's going on, i'm just running from one boss to the next, killing dudes on the way and getting short incomprehensible cutscenes here and there

can't really see BB winning GOTY based on graphics either, it's pretty mediocre in that aspect

can't fault the gameplay though
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>Undertale winning GOTY
Can you imagine the levels of butthurt this would cause? An indie game being GOTY?
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>>316625075
Wow, a 月の水 fanboy who also like Pathologic?
Great taste sir
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>>316625420
It's DLC for a game.
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>>316625431
Yeah, shame the game isn't even close to being good enough to have a chance to win that award, especially in a year as packed as this
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>>316622563
>here are the 3 contenders for GOTY

But Undertale isn't nominated for that in the Game Awards.
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>>316625431
>Can you imagine the levels of butthurt this would cause? An indie game being GOTY?
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>>316625663
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
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>Fallout 4
>Gameplay
Ayyyyy. I'd give that to necrodancer, despite it being released in early access last year.

Also Undertale's gameplay wasn't bad, if anything the true noteworthy thing in it is that the story intertwines with the gameplay and it's a story that couldn't be told in any other medium.
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>>316625429
The art design and enemy design is magnificent.

The story isnt your typical "here, read text, obtain all info needed" type of deal. You have to search for it.
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>>316622563
>Fallout 4
>GOTY for gameplay
What about the million fucking bugs it has that impede gameplay?
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Fallout 4 is mediocre in all aspects

MGSV has excellent graphics, good gameplay and a shit story

Bloodborne has excellent gameplay, mediocre graphics and not much of a story

Witcher 3 has excellent graphics, good story (would say excellent but second half is rushed), CDPR has raised the bar when it comes to the standard of sidequests though, the gameplay is mediocre

ofc there are more things taken into account when reviewing a game, such as soundtrack, voice acting, fleshed out characters, atmosphere, world building, attention to detail and more arbitrary stuff like scope, ambition and innovation plus a ton more i've probably forgotten

personally i think Witcher 3 hits the mark better than the other nominees this year, although MGSV and Bloodborne also are worthy nominees

Fallout 4 and Mario Maker though are two games i feel have no place in a GOTY contention unless you factor in only the size of fan base and nothing else
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>>316624517
>Better than Undertale
>The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
>Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
>Super Mario Maker
Get a load of this absolute shit taste.
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>>316626017
>mediocre graphics
>bloodborne

I hope you're not fucking serious m8
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all of them are shit desu
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It's sad this year was full of below average games, but I think I'll manage. Pic related, I had a fantastic year of PC gaming.

GOTY definitely belongs to Undertale, out of those three.
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>>316626128

mediocre might be a little more strict than it deserves, but there's nothing impressive about them imo
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>>316623996
There are about six actual cutscenes in the whole 50+ hour game, and tutorial/prologue notwithstanding, you can skip every single one of them. Stop being autistic.
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>>316626205

nice bait you got there anon, happy fishing
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>>316626347

That does not warrant there being 3+ hours of cutscenes. You know that anon.
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>>316625519
Thanks, anon. I'm a tad bit surprised that I'm not the only one who's interested in both of those here.
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>>316626205
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>>316623996
>>316623496
You have no idea what you're talking about.
MGSV have like fuck all for story but a ton of filler (gameplay).
Optimized is not the same as not having access to all the files, optimized is how well it runs on the platform, and it runs extremely well on PC (even on my toaster).

Your last statement is whatever really. If you dont want to play it because of the artstyle then so be it, that's your choice. Dont talk like you played it though, it makes you look stupid.
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>>316626421
>That does not warrant there being 3+ hours of cutscenes. You know that anon.
No, I don't. There's usually a two-minute cutscene in every five hours of gameplay.
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>>316625387
This guy gets it.
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>>316626472

>MGSV have like fuck all for story but a ton of filler (gameplay).
You don't seem to understand. NOTHING should have 3 hours of cutscenes. Not even Sony movies.

>>316626559

>No, I don't. There's usually a two-minute cutscene in every five hours of gameplay.

And that 5 hours is filler, and doesn't want there being that much story. Couldn't Kojima tell the story without cutscenes?
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>>316626664
>Couldn't Kojima tell the story without cutscenes?

This would be a lot easier if you just said you don't like Metal Gear.
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>>316626664
>And that 5 hours is filler, and doesn't want there being that much story. Couldn't Kojima tell the story without cutscenes?
Okay, so you're just pretending. Thank God, I was worried there was someone that was legitimately this retarded in the world.
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once i heard MGSV had a ton of quests that repeats themselves and that you're asked to do over and over again, some even to unlock hidden content, i lost all motivation to try out that game

the graphics and gameplay looks good, but putting shit like that in an RPG leaves a sour taste in my mouth, fucking hell, if it was a NG+ mechanic i'd be fine with it, but as far as i understand this is different

feel free to inform me otherwise
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>>316626664
It's not 3 hours in one fucking go you retard. It's 3 hours dragged out over 50 hours of gameplay. You have to look at percentage of story vs percentage of gameplay. Jesus christ.

If you said MGS4 were a movie I would've given you that since it does have a cutscene that is 1 hour long, but you are just acting like a retard at this point.

You should play mario for nes, no cutscenes, no nothing, just run and jumping.
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>>316626830

>if you don't like massive amounts of story polluting what should be a gameplay-only medium, you're trolling!

I don't ask you to blindly agree with me. I just ask that you understand my disdain for story in video games.
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>here are the 3 contenders for GOTY cuz my mommy didn't buy me a PS4

Bloodborne is easily GOTY.
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>>316626965

I hope you're not implying that Mario is bad because it's light on the story element. If anything, that's the only thing it does consistently right across every single game he's ever been in.
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>>316626997
Am I wrong though? With a stance like that, you must not like Metal Gear. Maybe the MSX games, but come on.
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>>316626883
If you're talking about the Side Ops, then yeah, it kinda sucks. At least they change locale so it doesn't feel like the same prisoner rescue every time. As for the Extreme/Subsistence/No Alert missions in Part 2, you don't need to play any of them. The only thing that any of them really unlocks is a Sniper Wolf outfit for Quiet after beating the Extreme version of her boss fight.
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>>316622821
Lisa and undertale have two wildly different approaches to the earthbound style rpg you're fucking retarded bruh.
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>>316627108
I am not implying shit, I'm suggesting a game you would enjoy.
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>>316626997
>what should be a gameplay-only medium
Why should video games be only gameplay? Should a movie not have a soundtrack, or credits because they aren't video?
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>>316622563
Fixed your image, no need to thank me.

Gameplay might change depending on how JC3 is.
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>>316622563
if you think fallout 4 has better gameplay than undertale you don't know what gameplay means
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>>316622563
JESUS CHRIST IT'S LIKE YOU DIDNT' EVEN PLAY MGSV
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>>316625240
>Story
>Graphics
>Important

Pls.
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>>316627137

I'll be truthful. I hate Metal Gear more than almost any other series. I even hate it more than Gone Home, or Depression Quest, or Fez, because at least that doesn't bore me with cutscenes. I'd even take TLOU or Uncharted instead, if only because they have slightly less cutscenes.

>>316627256

>Should a movie not have a soundtrack, or credits because they aren't video?
It can have those, but they shouldn't be the focus. They should be very minor assets that exist only to make the product better.

A cutscene's equivalent in a movie is like a moment when the screen goes black, and you only hear music, and it's not even slightly related to the mood of the movie.
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>>316622563
>FO4
>Gameplay

>Not TW3 for graphics
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>>316627265
>Dying Light
I mean, Arkham Knight is actually a reasonable choice, and I haven't played PoE so I can't speak for/against it, but why the fuck do you think Dying Light had better gameplay than Transformers: Devastation, TPP, Halo 5, DMC4:SE does it really count?, Bloodborne, or several other games? Dying Light was a very mediocre game, whether or not you liked the freerunning mechanic.
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>>316627054
Well I'm glad your mommy did, Anon.
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>>316626439
I've been following 月の水 since ダンジョンクロニクル and I fucking love Pathologic.
It's my motto to enjoy good things no matter where they came from.
Doujin game, eroge, novel, movie, game of all sort, who care?
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>>316627461
>A cutscene's equivalent in a movie is like a moment when the screen goes black, and you only hear music, and it's not even slightly related to the mood of the movie.

That analogy makes no sense, dipfuck.
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>>316627461
>bringing SJW shit games in the discussion for no reason
Okay I'm out, everyone just stop replying, he's either autistic or trolling. I mean I hate those games and their creators too, but there's a time and a place for bringing up GG bullshit
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>>316627632

Movies are a visual medium, and anything that takes away from that is detrimental.

Videogames are an interactive medium, and anything that takes away from that is detrimental.

Capiche?
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>>316627265
Is Dying Light even worth trying if I thought Dead Island was a piece of shit?
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>>316627738
You are the only one here that made that connection you fucknut.
Listing shitty game is not the same as GG discussion for fucks sake.
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>>316627557
How was it mediocre? It had a good open world, fun parkour mechanics, way better crafting and upgrades than Dead Island, it could be very challenging depending on how daring you are, there's plenty of content... overall I thought it was a solid game.
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>>316622894

It's not exactly a stealth game, but if you'e not good with handling well under pressure or if you just can't shoot for shit, stealth is an option.

You can do both, its up to the player to decide which playstyle they prefer or are more skilled in.
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>>316627963
I will agree with you on the parkour, and the open world was good, but the combat is a make or break for me on games like that, and I think it was very shoddy.
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>>316627858
Yes, it wrecks Dead Island in all areas and is actually good.
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>>316623085
>too pretentious
What does that mean?

>pandered to tumblr
What does that mean!?!?!

>TOO MUCH STORY
WHAT
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>>316622563
I actually really enjoyed the gameplay in Undertale - I thought the bullet hell mechanic and sparing opponents was pretty fun, and each bullet hell segment was specific to the enemy that you were fighting.

I wish that the combat system could be flipped for the player though in a genocide run / in regular combat - what if you were trying to hit the enemy in the same way that they had been trying to hit you? It would have been really cool if you could have different bullet hell attacks while they try to avoid you.
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>>316624375

Good god you're stupid

That's 3 - 4 hours of cutscene amongst a long ass fuck game

trust me, you're playing the game 90% of the time. And the cutscenes are skippable. Stop whining.
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TOTALLY DISPUTABLE BUT GENERALLY RIGHT OPINION COMING THROUGH
Evolve is only on here because it's mediocre, but there wasn't anything else interesting during that month. Blops 3 is kind of stuck in a similar position. It's okay, and I bought it, but I know it isn't deserving of any awards
It's also okay if you don't like the M$ games, this board abhors the Xbone and I will respect your opinion
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>>316627265
>PoE
>Story

The game has one of the worst writing and pacing I've seen.

Not to mention the shitty gameplay.

If you play this game after Original Sin, you will be dissapointed, by how mediocre it is.
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>>316628802
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, I FORGOT THE RANKINGS
GOD DAMNIT
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>>316623085
So Rocket League and Yoshi? Good games, but you'll probably find some other bullshit reason to hate them anyway.
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>>316628719

That's what they said for TLOU.

>i-it doesn't matter if the singleplayer has 2 hours of cutscenes and a bunch of walking segments where you do nothing while someone vomits exposition at you!
>the multiplayer is fun and makes up for it!

Which is a crock of BS if you ask me. You want me to wade through feces just to find a diamond you claim exists.

>>316628935

Yoshi is too casual and wastes my time asking to find yet more useless collectibles. Rocket League is okay.
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>>316627461
I always thought I would have a similar stance of "nooo story in my video games!", but it really depends on a case by case basis for me. One of the reasons I dislike OoT is because of those long cutscenes, but then cheesy cutscenes are one of the only reasons I enjoy those poorly put together Sonic Adventure games so much. I think it's extreme to hate Metal Gear so much for the cutscenes, but I can see why.

Though I must confess I've never really played Metal Gear myself, but I'm still planning on playing MGS1. I've played like ten minutes of it. I think the series' combination of story and game is interesting, and perhaps video games would quickly become dull if they only focused on how they played. But I do feel strongly that how a game plays is the most important part.

>A cutscene's equivalent in a movie is like a moment when the screen goes black, and you only hear music, and it's not even slightly related to the mood of the movie.

I don't know about that. Perhaps not music alone, but I am reminded of gags where you can't see anything and the comedy comes from the sounds you hear. Like a character crashing off screen and you hear cats screeching. You might as well make use of everything available to you, and that includes story.
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>>316629024

... Okay no you DEFINITELY haven't played MGSV, shut the hell up
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>>316622563
Forgot a game which already has a GOTY edition
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>>316622821
>rip off of lisa
I want normies that don't play every single game so they can whine about them correctly to leave my board, REEEE
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>>316629143
>>316629110

I only make a fuss of story when I've seen examples of games do it far better.

For example, look at Metroid Prime. Hours, maybe days worth of explorable lore, and yet it doesn't have anywhere over 10 minutes of expository cutscenes. Why can't Kojima do that?
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>>316629024

Play the fucking game you idiot

I'm not saying the game is particularly good but what you're saying is completely wrong, it's a 30 - 50 hour long game with about 3 hours of cutscenes rationed pretty evenly throughout the game

if you don't like it you can just skip them

say what you want about the actual quality of the game (except that you can't because you clearly haven't played it) but quit implying that you're watching the game more than playing it
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>>316629282
>souls puke

Fuck off retard
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>>316629585

>watch the movie
ftfy.

>it's a 30 - 50 hour long game with about 3 hours of cutscenes rationed pretty evenly throughout the game
And again, TLOU is a 50-100 hour game if you include the multiplayer, but that doesn't excuse the rather poorly thought out story.

>if you don't like it you can just skip them
Only to be led right into ANOTHER cutscene, which I have to skip, then another, then another, and then another. Where does it end?

>say what you want about the actual quality of the game (except that you can't because you clearly haven't played it) but quit implying that you're watching the game more than playing it
Kojima spent all his money on fancy realistic graphics and CGI cutscenes, so I can't attest for quality existing in the gameplay.
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>>316622563
You are missing The Witcher 3 mate
Replace the pretentious indie shit with it
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>>316629657
>lmao Sans so funnay xDDD
>KOJIMAAAAA!!!!
>BUY MY GAMEEE :ddd
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>>316629554
Actually, MGSV does do something like that. You can listen to exposition tapes while you play missions, though of course the game still has the cutscenes in there.

I'm not sure if I would want every game to handle it like Metroid Prime did. Variation is nice, after all.
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>>316629554

Well then stop being comparative

>Why can't Kojima do that?

Gee, I guess every single game should handle the dissonance between mechanics and story the same way right?

Kojima likes cutscenes, and clearly people have come to like that over the years because I can tell you that alot of MGS fans were disappointed that there weren't more cutscenes in V.

>>316629887

You literally have no idea what you're on about, even people who hate the damn game would know that you're wrong
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>>316623085
Rocket League?
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>>316622563
this is some great shitposting OP. I like how you clarified that this thread exists solely to confirm your biases. 10/10
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>>316629554

Alot of story in MGSV is told through tapes that you pick up, the cutscenes are actually used to introduce characters and new gadgets etc. alot of the time

the story is there if you want it, but if you just want to play you can do that too
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>>316630434

>You can listen to exposition tapes while you play missions, though of course the game still has the cutscenes in there.
Then sadly Kojima didn't do his job enough if he still has enough cutscenes to bore me half to death. He should've had more tapes and stuff to prevent cutscenes from causing me boredom, and skipping cutscenes is only a bandaid on a bigger problem.

>>316630262

>Gee, I guess every single game should handle the dissonance between mechanics and story the same way right?
More like
>most games should ditch the story altogether and stop being cinematic movies
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You guys are retards. I'm leaving.
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>>316630757
don't

we'll miss you senpai
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>>316622563
>my shitty opinions are fact

Go fuck yourself you faggot and stop making these retarded threads
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>>316630542
Now I'm honestly curious. Is there any game you like that happens to include cutscenes? Or do you strictly only enjoy games without them?
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>>316630542

>He should've had more tapes and stuff to prevent cutscenes from causing me boredom

See, that's moving on into -opinion- territory, I watched all of the cutscenes and enjoyed most of them

>most games should ditch the story altogether and stop being cinematic movies

While I agree games should strive for their interactive nature I also want diversity, MGS is the only franchise I've accepted for having lots of cutscenes because that's kind of it's thing and always has been since the first MGS
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>>316622821
>Gameplay is the most important in a game followed by graphics then story.

Whatever works best with each individual title is what is most important you fucking idiot. There is absolutely no reason to set arbitrary impositions on an entire medium because "HURP IS GOT WURD GAME IN IT THEREFORE GAMEPLAY", despite it being a very flexible medium being capable of achieving greatness through many different means. If you think games like Planescape: Torment, Terranigma or Deus Ex are great games then you're a fucking hypocrite. If you don't, you're an utter retard. If you haven't played them, you shouldn't even be on this fucking board expressing your opinions on what games should be like as if you know shit.
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>>316631000
There has to be very, very little cutscenes for me to enjoy them.

>>316631007

>See, that's moving on into -opinion- territory, I watched all of the cutscenes and enjoyed most of them
But were they interactive? Isn'tt hat the point of a video GAME?
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>>316631550

But were they interactive? Isn't that the point of a video GAME?

Games can be whatever the fuck they want nerd, stop trying to push the idea that every game needs to push to be interactive at ALL TIMES. Some players want breathing room, something to watch

Not saying MGSV's cutscenes are cinema worthy or anything but cutscenes have a place in video games

don't put games in a box bro
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>>316631550
>But were they interactive? Isn'tt hat the point of a video GAME?

Now that's dangerous territory. Some games like to make cutscenes active by including quick time events, and I really hate that. Usually they come with no warning, and QTEs are always dull compared to the game's regular gameplay.

It's actually not made much better by games where you're still in control of your character, but you're not allowed to do anything but wait until some character stops talking. Like Half Life 2. It still serves the same purpose of delivering exposition and being a break from the action, but it's not really all that different.

I don't know where I'm going with this, but I cannot see cutscenes as being inherently wrong. I only have a problem if they go too far, like most Telltale games and Until Dawn. But I guess I excuse Metal Gear because it has so many gamey things going on between cutscenes.
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+2 rupees
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>>316623596
You can admit you didn't play it
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But Undertale has great gameplay (sticks to a basic theme but makes it very versatile and changes up the formula constantly to keep you on your toes, can be very challenging, requires actually thinking), and a great story, and you are neglecting to acknowledge that in Undertale the gameplay affects the story and vice versa, which is really the crux of the "Gameplay or Story?" argument. The gameplay is more than just the battles, its in the decisions you are making and how you approach the battles.

The graphics are actually pretty great, imo. They're not AAA, and there are certainly improvements to be made, but Undertale uses the style to it's advantage, making the most out of little details and idiosyncrasies within itself, which is really more important. I'd go so far as to say that Undertale done in a more fully fleshed out, big-budget illustrative or 3D style would lack a lot of the charm that it currently has.

I haven't played enough games to say its GOTY- hell, its probably not even my GOTY, but OP clearly knows shit about video games.
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>>316623085
zelda triforce heroes fits all of that criteria except for pc and 1080p
it's pretty dang fun
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Arkham Knight had better graphics
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Graphics GTAV, story BLOPS3, gameplay both.

You know it's true.
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>>316628210
Depends on why you thought it was a piece of shit. If you thought it was "wasted potential" then you will like Dying Light. If you thought the game was boring, and the literal embodiment of "kicking the dead horse" on zombie games, then you will hate Dying Light.

It is literally DI 2.0. Everything is improved, but an improvement on (in my opinion) a broken system, is still a broken system.
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