Playing this game for the first time. What skills should I increaseGeneral Deus Ex thread too I guess
>>316616305
swimming and poison resistance. Trying to get past the toxic sludge pool without level those skills is a fucking nightmare, the game really should have warned you about not leveling them.
>>316616465
Isn't swimming/environmental situational as fuck though?
>>316616305
You seriously can't go wrong no matter what you pick. Unless you want to go lethal.
It's the augs that make the real difference.
>>316616558
it is he's fucking with you
Ignore low tech weapons. You get a sword later that one shots shit.
Ignore swimming. Don't understand why people always recommend it.
>>316616998
>Don't understand why people always recommend it.
>being this new
There's a unique bio mod that is ridiculously powerful that can only be reached with high swimming skill.
The game will give you a path to go down, generally. Realize that you don't have to go down that path, and that there's almost always another option.
Pick at least one weapon skill and increase that. You're inaccurate as fuck and do shit damage without proper training. You should increase hacking at least a little bit so you can hack turrets.
Also the game never tells you this, but if you plan on stealthily meleeing guards aim around their belt area / where the pants and shirt part of the character model connect. That's the melee weak spot, not the head.
>>316616998
>Ignore low tech weapons. You get a sword later that one shots shit
IIRC it doesn't kill the heavy MJ-12 troopers with one hit unless you have the melee dmg augment and leveled up low tech. On higher difficulties you really want that one hit to kill them since they slaughter you in less than a second if you're standing right in front of them.
Suggested mods for a first playthrough? I remember a reddit post suggesting a bunch, but I always take their stuff with a grain of salt
Inb4 "hurr no mods first playthrough", I'm talking about fixing and rebalancing shit
>>316617959
Deus.exe to make the game run on modern rigs, enable better resolutions and get rid of the game breaking issues.
http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/
>>316617662
I'm at UNATCO and I have pistol, rifle, and computer at trained. everything else is untrained, and I have 975 skill points. What do I increase?
>>316616305
Pick Rifles or Heavy Weapons, they come with the best weapons (Sniper Rifle, Flamethrower, GEP gun)
Swimming has few uses, only level it up once for convince.
Only level Lockpicking and Electronics once, you will find enough lockpicks and whatever the electronic version was called to get through anything you need to.
Get Computers to advanced so you can turn off cameras and turrets, it will make life easier. I recommend doing this early.
Medicine makes medkits much better, but you only need to level it once for bad situations, the augment does a better job healing when maxed.
Everything else is iffy at best and useless at worst.
>>316617959
You don't need mods for first playthrough, and that's all there is to it. Get Deus.exe and you are good to go.
However, if you are really insisting on getting some rebalancing, google gmdx.
>>316618208
Both electronics and lockpicking are always useful skills since they enable you to bypass locks and certain security measures with less tools. Saving your points for later and increasing either rifles or pistols could also be good. If you plan on stealthing a lot you get the silenced pistol much earlier than you get a silencer mod for the rifles.
>>316616305
swimming. max it out
>>316616305
Don't pick swimming because it's fairly useless
>>316619163
Putting at least one point in swimming is pretty useful though, albeit not until mid-game. Before that there is exactly one place where you are going to take a little damage if you have no points in it and refuse to use a rebreather.
>>316616305
The skill of playing videogames.
wbout for HR? any tips?
>>316620696
Smash it.
Play original deus ex
>>316620696
HR is just a normal FPS with some RPG mechanics. Don't really need any tips for it.
>>316620696
Yeah. If you absolutely have to play DX game that is not DX, at least play Invisible War. Because as godawful as it is, at least it is a Deus Ex game. Unlike HR.
>>316620696
HR has I think one or two stupid side quests that you literally cannot complete without adequate hacking skill, so be sure to increase that. Other than that there really isn't anything complex or outright shitty skills that you should avoid. By the end you've probably maxed out most skill trees.
Also unlike the original Deus Ex where you mainly get EXP from completing objectives and exploration, in HR you also get EXP from enemies, with non-lethal (especially melee) bringing the most points and lethal non-headshots the least.
>>316621152
What makes IW so awful?
>>316621259
It's not. It's just not as good as the first.
>>316620696
Hacking, Persuasion, and extra battery life.
>>316621259
Half-assed, full of bugs, loading times that used to put Sonic 06 to shame but are still quite bad even on modern computers, terrible game design decisions, small maps, butchered hacking and computers in general, story feels like fanfiction.
Otherwise it's solid.
>>316619514
I actually beat the game the very first time with full swimming. I remember it being useful. I just can't really recall all the details. It's been too long.
>>316622051
>It's been too long.
You know what you must do
>>316622303
Replay the first level and then stop playing?
>>316622051
There are lots of places where swimming is useful. The game was designed that way, and if you purposely go looking for swimming approaches, you won't be disappointed.
The thing is though, in most cases, alternative approaches to the swimming one are a lot more useful and convenient - safer, put you in better/more advantageous positions, more things to collect along way, etc.
I can only think of two exceptions personally, one of which is only marginally better, the other one that you don't actually need swimming, aug, and/or rebreather to use. Same's pretty true of hidden stuff reachable by swimming.
>>316622402
Replay the first two levels and then stop playing
>>316622402
I just gas grenade the corner of the door and skip all that bullshit. Takes you straight to UNATCO.
If you ever used theelevatoratArea 51, you are a faggot.
>>316622617
UNATCO?
>>316622303
Yeah, I know.
I got the PS2 version for giggles. I'll see what it is like.
>>316616305
I would max Uninstall if I were you. I also had luck with Play a Different Game.
>>316622663
The UNATCO building where you're briefed on what to do.
>>316622724
Very funny, go back to your head-patting thread weeb scum :^)
Is there a more quotable game than Deus Ex?
>>316623017
Morrowind.
Deus Ex? More like Deuce Sex, because this game is fucking shit.
I start the game, and some old guys are talking about some boring shit. Something about a plague, I guess. The only cool part was when they were talking about me being a supersoldier.
My hopes were dashed as soon as the game started. Considering I'm a "nano-aug" (what the fuck does that even mean?) the fact that I die in a handful of pistol shots is shitty.
Guns and melee in this game are both broken. It takes forever to line up a shot and bullets do laughable damage.
I couldn't even bear to finish playing the first level. Fuck this game, and fuck /v/ for calling this turd a great game.
>>316623183
Nah, not really. Morrowind has a few memorable quotes, but it's hardly above the average.
>>316623209
Nice pasta.
>>316623273
I have a lot of Morrowind quotes, but only because I've played it for so long. Most of them are random greetings from NPCs.
>>316623472
B-b-b-but it's pasta!
All these years, and you stupid Deus Ex fanboys come up with the same reply once again.
You fags have called it pasta from the day I wrote it, and your utter lack of originality is the reason that your "counterargument" hasn't changed.
>>316623209
>>316623606
I'm genuinely starting to believe this guy is a fucking AI. I refuse to believe a human is doing this. It would be too sad to bear.
Nope. It's an AI. It has to be.
>>316623606
It is pasta, though.
>>316623791
>I refuse to believe a human is doing this. It would be too sad to bear.
That may as well be /v/'s motto.
>>316624089
No, /v/'s motto should be: "We spend more time bitching about games than actually playing them."
>>316623606
>You fags have called it pasta from the day I wrote it
>>316624804
>Utter lack of originality
>>316624969
>>316624089
Don't get me wrong, /v/ is pathetic. We all failed as human beings.
Which just makes this guy's case all the more sad, since even among pathetic failures he managed to hit a new low.
He has been posting his crap in every single Deus Ex thread for the past, what, two years? Three? Waiting for someone to reply so he can continue with the same "b-b-b-ut it's pasta" crap. Every single time.
No one can hate a game so much that he'll waste his life away doing the same thing day after day, year after year.
Like, I can't even feel mad. This is beyond pathetic. His life must be insanely shitty, because this is madness on a level a sane person cannot begin to comprehend. I pity the son of a bitch.
>>316621152
oh wow, the deus ex kiddo's have really done it now
okay mate listen here, dx:hr is a deus ex game, stop this meme that anything other than DX1 is deus ex (it's retarded)
okay
I'm sure you're probably just bating for some cheap laughs but oh my god kiddo it's such a weak bait if it is jesus christ
I mean, by your own set of standards if hr isn't a deus ex game, neither is iw
I mean COME ON, what are you smoking
I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think -- intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris.
>>316625850
>Problems in Paris
The future is now
>>316620764
smashthestate
>>316626001
>mfw Deus Ex didn't render the twin towersdue to memory limitations
>>316626285
Which is ironic since the whole game is about a conspiracy.
>>316625850
>predicted 9/11
>predicted the shit going down in paris
>predicted high gas prices
anything else they predicted?
>>316626285
Dude, that's bullshit. Backgrounds are fucking jpgs, what you are saying makes no sense. I could add those towers in fucking paint, the game wouldn't magically shit itself.
They just simply forgot about them.
Why is swimming so fucking useless? There is literally no difference between untrained and master, why didn't they try to make it useful on Revision?
>>316626858
There are a few spots you can only access with a higher swimming skill.
>>316626450
Electronic old men
>>316626563
>"forgot about them"
They knew.
Since Deus Ex continues to predict the future with startling accuracy, how are you going to live in the coming dystopia /v/?
>>316628036
Probably comfortably. I'm not the revolutionary type.
>>316626450
Gas prices are pretty cheap now. Praise the Emperor.
>>316625850
>>316626001
>>316626285
>>316626351
>>316626563
>>316626285
They didn't add them because the background looping would have been too obvious
It was pretty easy to imagine that the World Trade Center would get taken out considering they tried to blow the fucker up a few year prior to Deus Ex's release. Didn't get it right til the second go round.
>>316616305
uninstall.exe
>>316626939
Because of oxygen? You could just use aqualungs or rebreathers.
>>316616305
Increase yourHuman RevolutionanduninstallyourDeus Ex 1becauseHR is better
>>316628442
>>316628575
le swimming maymay xddd
>>316626285
>>316626563
>>316628348
>Well that's definitely very surreal to see all that stuff begin to happen in the real world... it's kind of an anecdotal fact, it turned out that this skyline we used in Deus Ex for New York is missing the Trade Towers... and that was not, it wasn't deliberate, it was left out despite the artist in the process of creating art, and the decision was made not to waste the time to go back, and put a man, and he's figured he'll just fictionalize the Trade Towers were destroyed in a terrorist act. And we'd... we never really put that into the game as content... but er, it was, that was our decision, and we kind of made it lightly at the time, as, er, okay, whatever, we'll destroy the Trade Towers. And now it's, when it happened, it happened for real, and it definitely feels a lot more weighty than a few pixels in a piece of art, that... you know, you could... a few designers can erase or add in
>>316628442
>>316628575
>>316625275
B-b-but he's pathetic!
Stay mad, Deus Ex-tard.
Never played any Deus Ex game before, but it has me interested. Is it possible to max out everything like you can do in Morrowind with enough time? Or is it just too different? (Assuming no mods or cheats)
>>316633065
No Deus Ex is actually an RPG. You master one (or two if you do a lot of side missions) skills and that's it. You're not allowed to be a jack of all trades.
>>316633065
>Is it possible to max out everything like you can do in Morrowind with enough time?
Nope.
>>316633186
>>316633219
Gotcha, I think I'll get it. I like when they actually make you think about your choices.
Thanks
>>316616305
Prod with the prod
if you're a filthy cheater, hitting escape while lockpicking or using a multitool will continue to weaken the door until you exit, so you can effectively break into anything with only 1 tool per door for the entire game without ever needing to level them
>>316616305
Pick a combat skill and stick with it, even low tech can be powerful with the right weapon.
>>316634498
>even low tech can be powerful with the right weapon
>even
Well, yeah, that's a bit of an understatement. Putting one or two points in low tech will allow you to ohko everything except transgenics and animals with the prod.
>>316634498
>Pick a combat skill and stick with it
>fighting anyone in the game except the anna navarre forced fight
do you even stealth bro
>>316635385
If you want to do that for a challenge, that's cool. 100% pacifist stealth winds up being a huge timesink though, when you can whack someone in the spine and get them out of your way. Or just shoot them. If you haven't played it so many times you're out of ways to make it fun for yourself, you should just do whatever you want.
If you just want a challenge and don't care about the extra time involved, try to get your arms and legs blown off in the first mission, and do the whole game as a cripple. Step it up.
>>316635385
>fighting Navarre
Come on, man.Navarre needs to meet an unfortunate end on Lebedev's plane thanks to a LAM. You don't know anything about it, of course. What a terrible accident.
>>316635927
>100% pacifist stealth winds up being a huge timesink though
who ever mentioned pacifism
you can ko anyone in the game except "bosses" with backstabs without any point in combat skills, you can even 1shot mj12 commandos with the prod if you hit the right place
>>316635385
>Forced fight
>Not using a well placed mine to cause her AI to panic and force open the door of Unatco that Alex was supposed to give you the key forI have actually never pulled this off. Does anyone know if the game accounts for her living past that point?
>>316636835
>Does anyone know if the game accounts for her living past that point?
no, the game takes for a given she dies, the game stops giving a shit about kills/nonlethal after the subway hostage situation anyway
>>316636835
It doesn't, but a few dialogues that refer to her death won't trigger. Same with Gunther.
>>316635943
Why do that when you can tell her that she's such a Flatlander Woman.
>>316636757
>fighting anyone in the game except the forced encounter
Not laying a finger on a single person in any way, except when you have literally no choice to, is pacifism. Even if you're glaring daggers into their backs as you creep past them.
>>316637014
>but a few dialogues that refer to her death won't trigger. Same with Gunther.
nope, the game assumes she dies, gunther can be skipped legit
sticks and stones
>>316636835
>play revision mod
>tripmine the fuck out of Simons' spawn place in sealab
>doesn't spawn in same place in revision; boom doesn't boom
>frown, open the door
>he just stands there doing fuck nothing, so you shoot him with the gep gun
I don't even know about these mod authors sometimes.
>not putting all your points into pistols
>>316637656
I've done that to many times it's too easy now. I keep that starting pistol you have until end game. Mod it to hell and back so by the time I have expert pistol It's like playing a point and click adventure.
>Use: Pistol
>MJ12 trooper
Playing it through the first time
It's fantastic
So... what's the most OP combat skill? Pistols?
>>316636998
Actually last time it matters is your last friendly visit to UNATCO, where soldiers pat you on the back for helping them fight the nsf
>>316637975
Heavy, but the BFG9000 (plasma gun) is bugged and useless. Flamer removes any standard enemy and GEP is the most efficient way to eliminate commandos.
>>316639059
>GEP is the most efficient way to eliminate commandos
>not the Dragon's Tooth
>>316639149
I said that because anon asked for an OP combat skill. But you're right, a DT with Trained in low tech will kill everything.
>>316617226
>high swimming skill.
or just save on rebreathers
>>316622617
I can never get that to work, no one runs to the door
>>316622926
>>316637975
The GEP Gun takedown is always the most silent way to eliminate Manderley
>>316625275
Don't drag me down with your failure, I haven't given up on life and neither should any of you.
>>316637975
Any gep round is basically an instant kill on anything, including doors.
deus ex more like day of sex
![deusex-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CJonnhQ.jpg "deusex-cover[1].jpg")
>>316641412
Deus Ex? More like Deuce Sex, because this game is fucking shit.
I start the game, and some old guys are talking about some boring shit. Something about a plague, I guess. The only cool part was when they were talking about me being a supersoldier.
My hopes were dashed as soon as the game started. Considering I'm a "nano-aug" (what the fuck does that even mean?) the fact that I die in a handful of pistol shots is shitty.
Guns and melee in this game are both broken. It takes forever to line up a shot and bullets do laughable damage.
I couldn't even bear to finish playing the first level. Fuck this game, and fuck /v/ for calling this turd a great game.
>>316622650
This. Speed boost + pipe jumping all the way
>>316637404
>fighting simons in oceanlab instead of area 51
the fuck you doing
>>316644323
>fighting simons at all
>not running past his ass at Area 51
>>316644323
>fighting
>not avoiding fights by rigging stupid-elaborate traps before the fight even begins
It's like you don't know what fun is.
Guys, I accidentally the NSF agent, what do?
