I know why they took out the bust slider in Xenoblade
The reason is the following:
In the Japanese game, thanks to the height and bust sliders and other hair style options etc. it was possible to make your own player character look just like Lynlee.
Now the thing is, the player character does not have the censored bikini or bunny suit. So Nintendo's fear was that people would just "circumvent" Lynlee's censorship by making their own character Lynlee 2.0 and then wear the bikini on that character.
So, because adjusting the bust slider so that you can only make girls with a B cup or above for example is too difficult for the Treehouse team, they just decided to get rid of the slider and lock the cup size of all female characters to C. That solves the issue for them.
They took it out so that people would market the game by being mad about it.
Pretty successful so far, there is way more Xenoblade discussion than there would be without manufactured controversy.
Kudos to their marketing people.
>>316614663
>Nintendo
>smart marketing
Now that is just unlikely
>>316614663
i highly doubt that
>>316614693
Not since they hired Bowser.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150520005475/en/Nintendo-America-Hires-Bowser-VP-Sales
>>316614693
>>316614734
It's the opposite method of Dragon's Crown. JUST as effective but turned on its head, so instead of having SJWs market for you, they chose to use the inverse of SJWs the kind of people who spam censorship threads. AJWs? (autistic justice) I don't know what you'd call those people.
>>316614663
Pretty much
>>316614948
I would call them dumb, but it's working so I can't really say that.
The only dumb people are the people who get mad on social media and forums/imageboards, instead of getting mad on customer feedback channels.
>>316614902
nintendo isnt smart with marketing
they are amazing in everything like stocks and games but not marketing
I'm going to play as a male but I feel sorry for anyone who was planning to play as a female, limiting character customization is stupid
Got an answer
Hello [redacted],
"Thank you for taking the time to write to us with your feedback regarding Xenoblade Chronicles X. We can certainly understand your thoughts on this matter and want you to know how much we appreciate you sending them in. We also want to assure you that your comments will be added to our records for Xenoblade Chronicles X and will be made available for other departments at the company to review and thoughtfully consider.
There are many reasons that Nintendo or any other publisher may decide to release a certain copy of a game in one market, but not another. I understand that there are (like you) real fans of these games and franchises in this market who would love nothing more than to see these titles appear as they would in other areas around the world. In fact, there are many of us here who share your interest in these titles.
While I can't guarantee anything, we do take all feedback into consideration. Your comments help us to understand what is important to our gamers.
As news comes available regarding future products, we post any announcements to our website (www.nintendo.com). Keep an eye on our site for all the latest information.
Sincerely,
Nintendo of America Inc.
Cal Trim"
Literally copypasted and completely missing the topic, asked about the bust slider removal and censorship, not about the game coming out in different markets
>>316615410
I love canned responses.
Nintendo needs to get on with the program. Sony consoles have games like Neptunia and Senran Kagura, amongst others - all of them filled with sexualised loli characters. No one complains there apart from a bunch of people who have nothing better to do.
>>316615410
Basically a copy+paste email /v/ has been getting since the first letter all the way back with "CHANGE"
>>316614323
Its not taken out. Its restricted to "woman" and "old woman" preset.
You cant put big tits on a "Young girl" or "girl".
>>316614323
shut up and die for defending them
I wont buy their shitty game I will import japanese one like i did with FFV
>>316616024
Wrong. It's gone.
>>316616065
I am not defending anyone. I'm explaining their reasoning.
>>316616024
Is that what happened? Where did you read that? I was under the impression that it was gone altogether.
>>316616024
At least provide a source you fucking fag
>>316616406
Or you can just find out for yourself eventually.
I could not care less about your "opinion".
>>316616629
So what you're saying is, you have no source?
>>316617163
of course he doesn't, that's because it was removed entirely
>>316615410
Who do I e-mail again?
I'll specifically call them out on copy pasted responses to see if I get something new.
>>316615410
I sent to NoA and NoE around the same time yesterday, got only a reply from NoE so far:
"Thank you for your email to Nintendo.
In response please be assured, we do understand your frustration and we apologise for the inconvenience.
Although we are not able to change the outcome we will forward your feedback to the head departments.
If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards"
A reply to placate fans, but at least it felt like NoE actually read the email.
>>316617634
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask/ht/295/cp/591/mq/319
>>316617636
More people need to email NoE. I imagine if they keep getting such mails every day they'll go "hey you know what we should look into this"
>>316617634
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact
Corporate Questions -> Corporate Social Responsibility
>>316617636
>>316617953
I was planning on calling instead. You think emailing would be better?
>>316618051
why not both
>>316618051
I say do both. Do say you dislike the can email and the lack of any real response from Nintendo other the past few days with all this new information that came out. Don't forget asking about them somehow doing a dual audio patch.
>>316618367
I don't think dual audio patch would happen because they would have to pay all the japanese VAs again and they have various contracts and shit
however bringing the bust slider back would literally be one click
>>316617634
We should just paste this every XBX complaint thread so people stop asking. Remember try to sound polite yet firm but not aggressive about it:
Nintendo of America: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/contact
8-4's email: [email protected]
Nintendo of Europe (UK branch) email: [email protected]
Nintendo of Japan General Inquiries (Japanese Language only): https://secure2.nintendo.co.jp/cgi-bin/inquiry/entry.cgi
Previous anons also recommended tweeting them and I remember someone posted twitter accounts to 8-4 members. If someone could compile a twitter list, it would help too.
Femanons are also encouraged to mail (moreso in regards to the boob slider)
Even if nothing is changed, at least hope that it dissuades them from censoring future games.
>>316614323
Meh, oppai loli is good too fuck nintendo.
>>316618517
Did anyone write a good example mail we could slightly edit and send in?
>>316618517
@johntv is the neogaf mod
The others don't seem to tweet as much. He'll probably just block you, though. Better tweet to Nintendo, who are the people that really should care about this. It's not 8-4's fault they were hired for the job.
>>316614323
oh look it's this thread again.
>>316618838
ponytail, midriff?
what is this?
I thought only the bikini for lyn was changed?
>>316618667
Just sent this in, was a bit hard to keep ranting due to the 1000 character limit.
Good day.
I've been a very long time mexican Nintendo fan, since the SNES and Game Boy era. I just love everything Nintendo, and have owned every console (except Virtual Boy). I've grown up with Nintendo.
And this is why it hurts so much to see the recent baffling decisions you've been making in the Americas branch. The recent decisions to censor Teen and specially Mature rated games I found ridiculous. It truly feels like we're back in the SNES era.
I was looking forward to Xenoblade X so bad, but now I will not be getting the game because of all the localization changes I found pointless. I'm not talking just about costume changes, but also terms like Dolls = Skells.
Could you forward this to your higher ups and tell them to hire more competent localizators? I mean just look at the condescending way one of the localizators at 8-4 speaks about my woes: http://i.imgur.com/ta2Q8IH.png
He's calling me a nerd and telling me to buy the japanese version, which is not possible to play.
>>316618916
Note that it says 2014, pretty sure that tweet is about Gunvolt
>>316614323
but the player character isnt young like her so it doesnt matter
people can have small tits and small as an adult
>>316618367
>>316618498
I just called NoA. The representative was really nice about it and took down my responses for the "back office" to review. I doubt that means much of anything, but I feel better for having called.
>>316619271
Yes, those are called men.
>>316618667
I think one or two anons screencapped their mails but it might be better to write from scratch so it doesn't come off as copy pasted. One anon had pretty much a one page essay but considering the amount of emails they have to read, it might also be better to keep it short ~1 paragraph. Don't charge in just complaining about breast slider (unless you're a femanon then you can bring up the lack up representation and immersion).
Some things to remember of what was changed/censored (excluding Lyn since there's no strongly good way to rationalize it):
>Removal of breast slider
>Terms changed that alter original intent and meaning. This breaks references to Takahashi's past works as well as Takahashi's vision of the game.
>Decreased amount of character personality type voice options for player (I'd suggest not mentioning dual audio since again, no strong point to rationalize)
Try to be polite and sound like a concerned fan and not self-victimized.
>>316619351
Calling might be better
Not sure. But it seems less ignorable somehow
>>316618667
It's best to write one out yourself. If you just copy it they might think it's just someone just spamming it instead of being from different people. Just say how you feel unsettled with some of the name changes and the removal/changes of content which feels like you are getting less options than in Japan. And also talk about how you enjoyed how Nintendo has been doing well with dual audio like with Awakening, XC, and Fatal Frame and hope that they can somehow patch in the Japanese voices as an option.
>>316619351
Thanks for calling. I'm guessing they will file it and never bring it out again. But better to do something than just cry over it here.
Reminder that Xenoblade is losing to Donkey Kong on Gamefaqs right now by like 200 votes
If Xenoblade loses the potato will be sad.
You wouldn't want the potato to be sad right?
www.gamefaqs.com
Are there any other good semi lewd outfits in the game or were the bikini and bunny the only ones? But they were taken out.
>>316620427
Only Lin's costumes have been altered. Elma and you can still wear everything else. Not saying it's good just that saying they are taken out is wrong.
>>316615352
>playing as a male in a video game ever when you can pick your character's gender
>>316620601
Well then let me rephrase: Are there any other somewhat sexy outfits for Lin?
>>316620797
We don't know what Lin looks in every costume yet but I'm guessing no.
>>316618838
Before anyone falls for it, this is about 8-4's localization of Gunvolt.
>>316620601
Can GameXplain be sure the bunny suits are in? When are you able to get them in the original?
>>316620797
All the sexy outfits were replaced to make them more modest. I doubt very much they'd leave one behind.
According to the dude at gamerxplain the othe rwomen didn't have outfits modified, but we haven't seen EVERY costume. Like the bunny suit, it wasn't present in the video. We'll have to wait and see.
There's probably going to be other changes, be it name changes or other forms of censorship, so there's still plenty of outrage left.
All I wanna know is if the story was altered at all. Nobody ever bothered to actually figure out if that dude on GAF who said it was is part of the localization team or not. People keep tossing that image around like proof when I don't see any.
If the story truly was tampered with in an RPG, that's wholly unacceptable.
>>316621368
Story is probably intact, but filled with some memes in the dialogue
Like Elma's "I can haz cheezburger?"
>Nintendo
I'm done. I'll never buy another Nintendo handheld or console again. FE Fates will be butchered to fucking hell.
I really wish XCX was on PS4, atleast it wouldn't have this shit localization.
>>316621368
Does this answer your question?
Or that one tweet about Azure Striker Gunvolt? Some random anon is to be trusted more than this company.
>>316621368
I dunno about exact plot points but there were two anons who played JP version that had different stances on the change of terms + BLADE's acronym. One disliked how it changed the tone and implications of the setting and reason why BLADE exists. The other anon was fine with it since they felt the game was just about space exploration and the changed terms didn't impact anything.
#FE
dub only
censored
mamori romance removed
This is #4thekiddies.
Censorship Awaits.
>>316621687
>mamori romance removed
It's not even confirmed in the Jap versionAlso was anyone in that bait thread with the petition? Mods JUST
deleted it, but we had some nice and civil discussion there. Took 'em
long enough.
>>316621368
The problem is that until someone that actually knows the Xeno games outside of XC gets a whole of it we don't really know what they messed around with. And I don't really think any reviewer right now actually played Xenogear and Saga so they can't really say how much NoA actually got right. My guess in a week or so after it was datamind with all the terms we will get a better look at how much NoA messed around with the dialog and script.
>the face of Nintendo's last home console
>>316621687
Memehouse are killing it with that localization ;) best in the business.
>>316618838
He's right though. And they added the dialogue back in, so why does it matter?
>no bust slider
This is fucking horseshit and just sjw cunts doing it to piss people off.
Based NoA fucking over those fucking pedo shitloards.
>>316618838
>It's not 8-4's fault
Oh my sides.
>>316622047
It's real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA7uW-Efy3k
>>316622056
I'm a2Dpedo shitlord but I like Treehouse, they seem cool. Even Allison is fine. I disagree with her on many points but she's a decent human being.
It's not just the bikinis. They even took away ZR from Lin.
>>316621446
>Like Elma's "I can haz cheezburger?"
shut up
>>316622176
>Alison is fine
>she is a decent human being
Be glad I didn't save all the images of her ridiculous tweets and the misandry she's been spewing out
Meanwhile on the PS4...
>>316622264
>misandry
I think she doesn't like "jerky" guys. She's married to a guy so she can't totally hate them.
Jerky here is defined nebulously as "things Allison doesn't like" which is fine I guess.
Plenty of people here hate women they've never met (and men too). That's just as dumb.
>>316621893
Was it really deleted? Last time I looked at it about half and hour ago I could have sworn it already had over 440 posts, that's not far off from 500
>>316614663
>nintendrone logic
>>316622390
>misandry is fine, he's just a woman after all, give her a break
Nice misogyny.
>>316622264
People who unironically use the word misandry need to find their testicles.
>>316622390
https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/531834952883523584
>>316622434
I don't like it, I'm just explaining it.
It is working, these threads get 400+ posts and people who don't even know what a Xeno game is now know about this game.
People think that complaining about censorship will damage sales but the reality is that more people will hear about it, the bigger the fuss is made.
So continue complaining if you want to help Nintendo out I guess. I won't stop you I don't care either way.
>>316614323
This is weird cause you can still make a short girl like Lynlee with C cups.
>>316622564
>with C cups
Exactly. So it's no longer "problematic"
>>316621446
>Like Elma's "I can haz cheezburger?"
This is actually a possibility with this shit tier localization team
>>316622264
Yeah, she's thin-skinned, but calling her out is just taking the bait.
We still have to remain civil when contacting Nintendo about it.
Instead of pointing at her and saying "SHE'S THE PROBLEM" we have
to look at the bigger picture and ignore the red herring in front of us. Let
her live her life and let us worry about what's important to us.
>>316622425
Yeah, 512 posts and then kaput.
>>316622264
Here's a mild one.
It's too damn sad that a crazy person who's openly like that has infiltrated Nintendo, but don't even start harassing her or you're giving her more power. Just politely ask for better localizations.
>>316622608
>possibility
What do you mean, it's real.
>>316622495
>misandry is fine
Where did I say that? I'm saying she isn't misandrist. She's married to a guy.
How is she misandrist?
>>316622505
>Misandry is not real. If you feel like you can't take up ballet, don't blame misandry. Blame millennia of misogyny
Well that's pretty aggressive for sure. It definitely doesn't say she hates men, it says she thinks misandry isn't real, which is pretty silly but it isn't hating men. It's hating the idea that people can hate men and that it gets a term like misogyny does.
Again, that's silly but it doesn't mean she hates men. Don't try and Orwell the context.
>>316622683
>Yeah, 512 posts and then kaput
500 is the cap. It could be the thread just auto saged
>>316622729
>married to a guy
For money perhaps. She's fucking like what, 3 guys and 1 dog.
>>316622689
She's probably joking.
Like when people say that all women are whores on here. I think they would totally go out with one of those "whores" and that they have a mom or sister they love. It's just that Allison is very much like 4chan, no wonder so many people dislike her on here and why she dislikes 4chan. It's like looking into a mirror and seeing the things you dislike about yourself.
>>316622505
>never interacted with her
>never was part of/interacted with gamergate
lmao
Typical social "justice" subhuman using a blockbot with confirmed 90+% of false positives.
>>316614323
Damn, the censor tyrants sure are overly concerned about breasts aren't they?
>>316622683
Threads on /v/ have a 500 post bump limit, after 500 posts they'll eventually die out because they don't get bumped back up to the catalog
>>316622781
Nah, it explicitly said "pruned or deleted" not "archived"
>>316622793
Sure, TMZ.
>>316622837
>>316622729
fuck off you worthless cunt
>>316622793
>For money perhaps. She's fucking like what, 3 guys and 1 dog.
Well speculating on her love life is kind of pointless. She is married in an open relationship (which is something I don't understand) but obviously she doesn't hate men, or she would marry a woman.
I'm not saying she is a wonderful human being, just a decent one. You know, average (with some unconventional ideas about love).
She clearly doesn't hate men, that's basically all I'm saying.
>>316622858
What a coward.
Hope a nigger culturally enriches her.
>>316622858
You follow one or two people who are in the list or whatever. That's enough to get you blocked.
Muh safe space.
>>316622837
Yes, joking like >>316622858 >>316622505 totes not a crazy feminist
>>316622858
I'm sure you were civil and reasonable
>>316622971
You would enjoy that, wouldn't you /pol/?
>>316622970
There is absolutely nothing decent about her in any way
She's a human I'd hate to be around or talk to under any circumstances
>>316623036
Yes, animals belong together.
>>316622936
Would you prefer to reason with me, or just say ur a cunt because you're too lazy to try and articulate why you're mad?
>>316623023
>Yes, joking like >>316622858 >>316622505 totes not a crazy feminist
>blocking somebody makes you a crazy feminist
How? Seriously explain it.
I already answer the misandry thing. She's not hating men, she's hating the idea that people do hate men and that it gets a term. That's silly but it doesn't mean she hates me. Again she's married to a man.
>>316622970
>You know, average
You should check her Twitter once, she's an awful human being, far below "average". Like near rock-bottom.
>>316623116
Oh god just stop you fucking autist.
>>316621446
>>316622692
You've just gotta be joking. There's no way they would.
>>316623061
>She's a human I'd hate to be around or talk to under any circumstances
Okay well that's a fine opinion.
Like I said in my first post, I disagree with her on many things but I think she's a decent human being even though we disagree.
Like she would probably hate that I'm posting these pictures.
>>316623171
I won't reply to you specifically if you stop, how's that?
>>316623132
Says the guy who boycotts videogames because he can't see little girls in skimpy swimsuits.
>>316622354
>Murakumo without her mask
too lewd for me
>>316623116
>using a blockbot that blocks millions of people for just mentioning a hashtag
>not pathetic
>>316623198
Can you just stop posting?
Go to some neptunia thread or back to /a/ or whatever the fuck
Thanks.
>>316623026
>thread started out rather civil and focused on emailing/contacting
>IT'S THE SJWS IT'S THIS WOMAN'S FAULT
Jesus, don't give them ammo
>>316622692
>>316623189
>tfw with all this other shit going on I can't even tell whether this is a joke or not anymore
>>316623226
I already pre-loaded X, though. Alison is just a really fucking shitty person regardless.
It's funny how much a Twitter account can say about an individual.
>>316623226
Wow, I bet you hurt his feelings and made him real mad with that one. You aren't a little kid trolling at all.
>>316623190
see
>>316623116
You're mad because I won't get mad. Which is fine but face facts.
Allison doesn't hate men, why would she marry one? She has unconventional opinions (like many here) and that's why people get mad at her. (Which helps her causes because it generates sympathy.
I don't get mad at Allison because she's irrelevant to me, she's just an average human being with ideas that strongly conflict with my own, but she's entitled to having crazy opinions. Just like the people here.
>>316623254
>Can you just stop posting?
Trying to censor me, eh?Lol, just kidding but seriously that's a little ironic if you think about it. You want me to feed your anger, I'll respond every time you do. If you don't want me to reply don't message me again!
>>316623330
I don't think it was Alison's fault alone.
However, she DOES work for Treehouse. And Treehouse is in charge of deciding what changes need to happen to a game when localizing it.
Someone at Treehouse said "Despite being rated T for Teen, we need to remove this bust slider". "It's not okay for people to either give their character a smaller or larger chest".
I can't wait for her to tweet about this thread going off
topic and now debating her quality as a human being.
Asserting that "users of 4chan" are still crazy perverts and misogynists.
>>316623257
Anon was complaining he was blocked and I made a sarcastic remark that
his or her blocking was unprovoked. It probably wasn't and anon said something dumb
to get himself blocked.
>>316623361
I made you mad at least.
>>316622970
Are you a fucking retard? Just because you're in a relationship with a man and fucking a man doesn't mean you're not a misandrist. I have a gf and I'm still a misogynist. l2logic you fucking imbecile.
>>316623374
>she's just an average human being
An average human being doesn't make lists like this.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/159hHApvkrtaVVTjHjHLjIxA6V4m4Y_BYccDA6U3rbtQ/preview
>>316623348
>tfw XCX threads will never recover
#killallmen
#heforshe
#yesmeansno
#refugeeswelcome
>>316623482
see
>>316623116
(I'll keep doing this if you want, I don't mind)
>>316623490
She's a decent human being. I don't really feel like saying more on the topic but people want to talk about her instead of Xenoblade so I'm down.
>>316618498
>they would have to pay all the japanese VAs again
I work in localization myself, and this claim is ridiculous. Not all contracts are the same, and having to pay the agencies again for the voice licenses is actually rarity. Or why do you think all the niche releases can still have them in?
Didn't Xenoblade have dual audio, just like Fire Emblem Awakening? And the reception to that was good, so it would be sensible that they had contract that included being able to use Japanese voices in international releases.
If with XBCX they can't do that anymore, that would mean they intentionally went and changed the good contract that they had.
>>316623359
Buying the physical SE. Want that great artbook. don't care about the USB.
>>316623490
Actually I quite clearly stated that I never interacted with her. Maybe learn to read next time, retard.
>>316623514
>has a girlfriend, but is misogynist
So you're a wife beater?
SMASH THAT PATRIARCHYOnly on the WiiU
>>316614663
Except they would get much more controversy by letting Lyn alone and then manufacture a HEY THIS GAME HAS SEXUALIZED 13 CHARACTERS AND I DON'T LIKE IT articles.
>>316623514
>I have a gf and I'm still a misogynist
Well that makes you a hypocrite, it doesn't make what I said untrue in any way. It also doesn't make Allison a misandrist.
Like that's just reality. Do you really think I'm somebody who has shares her opinions? Hell no. I just try to be reasonable.
Like I bet she does nice things for her friends (male and female) and maybe has a little brother or a nephew that she loves and she has a husband she's probably pretty fond of.
I just don't get the misandry angle.
>>316614663
Yep, it's the same tactic they pulled with GTA.
>>316623485
Even so, complain in emails about the game's content or lack of content in itself. Consider that if one person at Treehouse always makes suggestions and changes that result in fan outcry, then maybe other coworkers will begin to notice that that person isn't fit for the job. If you target a person specifically, they'll utilize that chance to self-victimize and rally support.
>>316623609
Whoops, didn't read
>>316623740
>Except they would get much more controversy by letting Lyn alone
I don't know man. For all the shit you guys give people who would want to censor this game, I have never really heard people talk about that BEFORE the news about the changes dropped.
Seriously.
>>316623770
Wait, I don't understand. You mean Hot coffee? I'm not getting what is the same about GTA, maybe I missed something.
>>316623594
What you're saying, then, is that 8-4 is a mistake.
>>316623857
8-4 = 4
4chan?
4chan was a mistake, confirmed? This shit is like the bible code.
omg, bible code
bible
xeno series
This shit is spooky.
>>316623756
>Hate women
>Want pussy
>Hate men
>Want dick
It is as simple as that, it has nothing to do with a case-by-case basis.
>>316623857
It's not in 8-4's power to deal with voice actors and the like. Do you even know how localization works?
>this thread
>>316623838
>Seriously
Oh come on it happen to any japanese game that dare to have female characters.
>>316623632
No, you retarded sperg.
>a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.
You think disliking the opposite gender will make you somehow attracted to your own gender instead? That's not how sexuality works, you inbred mongrel. Is your thinking so one dimensional and simple minded? I could hate niggers, but do I think they ALL behave exactly the same? No.
>>316623725
>muslim dudes keep trying to not look at the tatas
>they still take a few looks
>>316614663
...If this is true that's scary
>>316624028
Yeah actually. A hole is a hole.
>>316623976
Okay, well that's fine but that's pretty petty in itself.
The fact you'd complain about another person who isn't actually hating on a gender when you are actually guilty of that is basically projection.
I mean go for it but that's what it is.
>>316623857
8-4kids truly is a mistake.
But so is the Nintendo Memehouse.
Nintendo just needs to give their non-Mario and Zelda games to XSEED t.b.h.
>>316616024
https://youtu.be/rZtGu1nyYow?t=8m15s
It's gone.
>>316623998
Bayonetta
Your move. I will name other games that don't fit into that theory every time you respond if you want. I should be able to get like 20 if I think hard enough.
>>316624057
RULES OF NATURE
This thread isn't progressive enough.
>>316623725
>>316623990
Not fully. It interests me, but localization isn't something I'm super familiar with. I'm assuming the implication here is that 8-4 is doing the grunt work while NoA is handling shit involving scripts and voice acting.
>>316624091
How's it scary? It's super successful.
For it to fail people would have to not use social media to complain about it.
People have all the power themselves for it to not be successful, they aren't demanding people to do anything, they are analyzing social media and using it to their advantage.
>>316624182
Never mind noticed they still selected girl, maybe it's still available for woman.
>>316624141
Isn't that a fault of the legal framework having not kept up with dual-income households? Not so much a problem with women themselves.
Women take advantage of things they can just like men. It's just that advantages men can take advantage of are being stripped away faster. That's not women's fault, it's men in places of power that are doing that to be honest. Maybe a few women but mostly men who write and vote on laws.
>>316623857
I dunno, I'm not really familiar with their work enough to say. Though that one picture posted ITT paints pretty grim image.
>>316623990
Depending how badly the localization was handled, it could be. Maybe localization team was given certain budget and free reigns to handle the project. If the voice contract really is bad, maybe they looked at it and rest of their budget, and decided they wouldn't have money for translation if JP voices were included.
But this is just hypothetical, shit like that almost never happens.
>>316624249
Is this the big commotion in France I've been hearing about?
Just because of tits?
>>316624174
8-4 does A LOT of work for Xseed.
>>316624418
That's because women are cattle.
>>316624557
That seems kind of pointlessly misogynist.
>>316623756
You must be retarded, anon. Like I said, not all humans behave exactly the same. I could hate any group but still find exception in people that aren't detestable within that group. I'm a racist, but some black people are cool.
also, to bring up your earlier point
>he thinks being a misogynist means you will turn you gay
What a fucking imbecile. You sound like a sheltered baby that has never been outside before. You have no idea how human relationships work. It's sad that you'll never understand how much of a moron you are.
>>316622354
>Snake girl with pig tails
>>316624515
No you fucking idiot. 150+ people were murdered.
>>316624537
Last one was 2008. Everything was different then.
In any case XSEED has managed to keep their games almost intact, while other companies the first thing they do is "what do we take out".
>>316624182
Possibly, but nobody seems to have checked the older presets yet. That one is also grill preset.
>>316624515
Tits can't kill 200 peoples anon, it's not it
>>316624679
means you will turn gay*
>>316624679
>not all humans behave exactly the same
So why do you hate women categorically?
>he thinks being a misogynist means you will turn you gay
I don't think that, more than one person has responded to you. I'm the one that keeps posting 2D cuties, that might help.
>You have no idea how human relationships work
That's more projecting I'm guessing, since you're doing plenty of it already.
>>316624249
>sneaking in a kick on the protester
>>316624310
They're translating the game and THAT'S IT. This is something theu've said.
Voice acting is always an outside company like Bang Zoom or Soundelux.
>>316624515
Muslims just declared war on France and killed 200 ppl.
>>316624781
>Tits can't kill 200 peoples anon
What about giantess's tits?
Checkmate atheists.
>>316624736
Holy shit, is it a new high score? Is this from /pol/? I hope it wasn't a frog poster... Please tell me they didn't mention 4chan.
>>316624887
Can they just declare war on France? Is France going to outlaw Islam? That seems crazy. A lot of Black Algerian French people are Islamic, there will be blood in the streets I'm guessing.
Now I know what Nintendo meant when their ads about Xenoblade said
>In a few weeks the end of the world is coming
WHY DIDN'T THEY WARN FRANCE
>>316624895
>>316614902
>JUST as effective
it really isn't
I mean yeah it is as far as getting the name out, but not at actually getting customers to buy the product.
Both Dragon's Crown and XCX are niche titles. For simplicity's sake let's say 100 people would buy it in any situation. Before the controvery surrounding them only 25 people planned to purchase both games.
With a controversy like Dragon's Crown, where nothing is changed/removed but people get upset, more people will hear about it. Another 50 people from that set of 100 will hear about it, which means 50 more sales will happen now, due to people that might have wanted it but didn't know about it now discovering the game.
With a controversy like XCX, where something is changed or removed and people get upset, you'll still get those 50 people hearing about it. However of those 50 new people that would have wanted the game if they knew it existed (and maybe some of the 25 initial buyers) might not all be okay with the changes and refuse to buy it on principle. Let's say between any lost sales from the initial 25 and the 50 new potential customers, you're only making 50 sales. Still more than you would have before the controversy, but less than you could have if the changes weren't made.
>>316625014
Oh it's ISIS, thank goodness. They can't flood 4chan with normies. They'll flood whatever websites people follow ISIS on, like Twitter or something.
>Oh it's ISIS, thank goodness
Perfect quote to use out of context. lol
>>316624806
because I detest a majority of them. It's not complicated.
>>316614996
>customer feedback channels
>implying there are any
NoA has proven they don't care one bit what their customers have to say. They want to push their own moralist, family friendly image of Nintendo even at the cost of alienating the only people who buy their games. I wouldn't be surprised if Reggie secretly owned stocks in Sony/MS and has some sort of personal stake in bringing Nintendo down honestly.
>>316625107
We will have to wait and see the sales numbers before we can really confirm that.
>mfw all those people on gamefaqs mailing and calling nintendo over this as well
good, good
>>316625132
Okay so you're not a misogynist. You're just confused about terms.
You have to categorically dislike all women to be a misogynist. You're just somebody who hates many women, not women implicitly.
I know it's semantics, but you guys abuse the English language I just want you to stop.
>>316625183
I'm glad I can come to /v/ any time I need a laugh.
>>316625183
>>implying there are any
I call the Redmond one all the time whenever Nintendo does something I don't like.
I'm not an Anti-tendo shitposter though so I don't get pissed off EVERY announcement.
Last time I called was in the Spring because Nintendo of America didn't have a New 3DS option that wasn't XL.
So I picked up an Animal Crossing bundle and I plan to just sell Happy Home Designer because I don't care for it like the regular AC games.
I finally got a US N3DS mini though!
Who knows, maybe if more people like me call in instead of shitpost on 4chan, they will make Xenoblade Y have a boob slider. Won't know unless we try I guess. Whining on here does literally nothing.
>>316625259
Some idiot will undoubtedly fuck it up by harassing one woman (bets on Alison) and then Nintendo will go even more SJW. It's inevitable.
I think it was better to just put it under the rug and pirate the game.
>>316625260
I hate all women except for my mommy
Good to know I'm not misogynist.
>>316625418
Did you ever fuck her? Just curious.
>>316614323
>Witcher 1-2-3 sex scenes
Ok, pass
>Bust slider
"muh internet female haters"
>>316625184
Not really, there's no way to determine how many sales it would have made before controversy compared to after it.
>>316625418
I don't hate all women, just the ones on the internet.
>>316614323
They probably got super butthurt over all of the loli splatoon art. Expect of of this in the future and don't be surprised.
GUYS
Guys
It's okay
Best Buy is here to save the day
>>316625410
Who cares, this is Nintendo's last home console, they can just fuck off.
>>316625528
I guess you're right. We will have to just hold onto our separate theories without any evidence I guess. It doesn't matter much to me either way, I just thought that is what was happening. It makes sense to me.
>>316625260
I think you're a moron. You can't just make up your own definitions of words. You don't have to hate ALL women to be a misogynist. Even many misogynists like their moms.
Find me a dictionary definition that says "all women."
>>316625712
>You can't just make up your own definitions of words
The irony man.
>Misogyny (/mJˈsɒdʒJni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls
Now you show me the mental gymnastics where that means you get a certain quota. I have no doubt you will try, despite it showing just even more so that you don't understand the definition as written.
If you don't hate women implicitly for being women, you're not a misogynist.
WHY DO YOU EVEN WANT TO BE CALLED THAT? Do you get a medal?
>>316625574
LOVE PIZZA
HATE NEWSPAPER
>removing the ability to make glorious DFC
NoA confirmed for literally worse than hitler
I wasn't planning to get this game before and I sure the hell am avoiding it now.
Same thing with Fatal Frame though honestly I was already permanently turned off by it being digital-only in the states and the removed costume was just icing on the shit cake.
Why Bayonetta 2 is able to come over stateside with no issues and this isn't I'll never know. And it's not just because the characters are younger, they aged up the offending one anyway in both this and Bravely Default and still removed the costumes. I mean why even bother with that shit?
>>316625957
But they didn't age her up.
>>316625574
It's too much of a coincidence.
They know
I still want the game. Unfortunately. It just looks really good and all.
But damn I wish it had dual audio and they hadn't censored or taken out anything.
I wish I could play it day 1 without having to give Nintendo any money, which they clearly don't deserve
>>316625954
>DFC
You couldn't make flat chest you ding dong, the smallest breasts you could do was Lyn's size.
all npcs in the party use the same body model. changing lynn's equipment probably fucked with the cross characters with the same size breast so instead of fixing it they cut it instead.
When bringing over a game from Japan it should keep all the features found in the original release, no exceptions.
>>316625883
>If you don't hate women implicitly for being women, you're not a misogynist.
I do but there are exceptions, you sperg. How are you so fucking retarded? If you hate 99% of women but like 1%, you still hate women. You're an idiot.
Like I expected, you couldn't show me any dictionary definitions. You just make up your own shit. Dumb fuck.
>>316624773
Yeah I noticed afterwards.
I've been looking but I can't seem to find anyone who uses the older preset, gamexplain said it's completely gone, but all their videos they selected the girl / young girl.
I wonder if the older faces are bad?
>>316626048
I could have sworn I heard they changed her age by a few years, my mistake. Still happened in Bravely Default though as far as I'm aware, and that was also localized by Nintendo.
>>316626070
Wait, it doesn't even fucking have dual audio?
>>316626160
no, where you been buddy?
>>316625107
This
I wanted to buy a Wii U for XCX but with the censorship and no dual-audio i'll not.
>>316614323
i want to have sex with lin lee
>>316626156
That was a rumor that went around recently, but the new commentary from English reviewers indicate that she's still 13.
>>316626070
>tfw all those shit male voices except shulk
Female voices are pretty rad, too bad there aren't more from mecha anime
I'm pretty disappointing I can't make Asuka now because of the lack of bust sliders.
Are we really at the point where shit we've been saying was changed months ago is now no longer changed?
What the fuck is going on?
>>316626253
We all do
But I think they removed all the even remotely sexy outfits for her
>>316626118
>I do but there are exceptions
Then you're not a misogynist if there are exceptions.
I mean Jesus man. Come on.
>you couldn't show me any dictionary definitions
I just did.
>Misogyny (/mJˈsɒdʒJni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls
That is the dictionary definition.
Are you just wanting attention? If you are that's fine. I don't mind. If I hated replying I wouldn't keep doing it.
>>316626102
this x100
I was ready to revolt about splatoon missing the fucking squid girl costume or SMM missing the arino/necky costumes and those are so goddamn minor that nobody with half a brain would ever consider it grounds to complain.
My issue with censorship is not one of what the content is but that some parts of the world get it and I don't. I'm receiving a lesser game for no good reason and I hate that shit so goddamn much.
Holy shit these threads are cancer now
see you faggots in 3 weeks after release
>>316626156
That was localized by Binary Sonori, who was hired by SQUARE.
>>316623562
Wow what compelling evidence.
>>316614663
>If the shitposters think they're marketing the game, they will stop shitposting about it!
Is this your line of reasoning?
>>316626442
>males can be virgins
American education
>>316626331
Nobody is censored except Lynlee. Elma has all her sexy outfits.
Also the boob slider for your character is gone.
That's way worse than Lynlee's swimsuit being changed but it's not really a big deal if you like the game for the game first.
>but you can't support censorship
Well I do have to support these Xeno games, that's more important to me sorry!
I will call Nintendo and tell them I'm disappointed and won't be getting the game (but I'm actually getting a special edition... because again it's not a huge deal but I would like it to not be censored).
>>316626070
Buy used after you find out they didn't fuck up the story massively.
>>316626364
>judith with her hair down
HNNNNGH
>>316626253
you mean the 13 year old(jp) or the 15 year old(western)?either ways die you sick pedoscum
>>316626501
What? I'm not speculating on what shitposters will do, because they're like another species.
I'm speculating on how a for-profit company might use shitposting to their advantage.
>>316626156
They did, to 15 Ive read....I dont even understand how 13 -> 15 makes any difference though.
>>316626126
I suppose we'll know soon, but it makes sense for them to censor big titties on Young Girls for a western audience.
Removing the option completely is still bullshit though, I still think they are there for "woman" and "old woman" presets.
This is a matter of laws, not social-justice-internet-white-knight-Warriors.
>>316626575
>buying a used copy
Why are you telling him to pay more?
>>316626560
anon have some standards. I won't tell you that you have to hate the game, but if you don't like the way they're handling don't buy it new. Just wait for a copy to pop up on ebay or something and swipe it then. It's what I plan to do with Rodea since I refuse to support NISA but still want a spiritual successor to NiGHTS.
And if you don't care, then don't bullshit with us/NoA and pretend you do.
>>316626646
She's still 13 in the localized version.
I just wish I was ignorant of these changes, now I feel like I'm getting a gimped experience. Especially with the removal of any religious references or important concepts pertaining to the story not coming through because of the weak translation, something about a collective hivemind I think it was.
>>316614323
I hate the censorship in its entirety, but this Australian attitude towards banning flat chests in a game is so shameful and retarded.
What the fuck is wrong with Nintendo? Apparently their localization team hates diversity. They hate titles with even the slightest bit of sexual themes and they hate different body types.
>>316626828
I agree, I wish I was back in 1995 when I was a kid playing censored games without knowing it and having fun
Now I'm just angry
>>316626828
Don't worry, you're doing a pretty good job demonstrating your ignorance.
>>316626887
>They hate titles with even the slightest bit of sexual themes
I dunno man they had no problem bringing over Bayonetta 2 last year
>>316626704
This one is not Gamestop exclusive and it's available digitally. It won't be crazy rare.
In fact, with the lack of promotion and the censorship, and the fact that it's on Wii U, I'm guessing it will flop.
>>316626771
If shes 13 I'm 13
>>316626560
Chill, Jethro. It's shit like people suddenly saying the boob slider ISN'T gone somehow and Lyn ISN'T aged up anymore that makes me puzzled. I don't know what's going on anymore.
All I want is the story intact at this point. I just don't want them to fuck it up.
>>316626690
It's disappointing, if it's removed completely I would cancel my preorder.
I'm not really sure what to do now, I don't support them doing this.
I was hoping there existed at least one video of someone going through the ages in the english version
>>316614323
Meanwile at 90's Nintendo
>>316626828
>Collective hivemind
You mean transhumanisn which you don't find out until the end of the game.
Also you're showing your ignorance by spouting dumb shit anyways so I'm not surprised you believe a random Neofag.
So, uh are we gonna be able to talk about the game at all anytime soon or should I just stick to discussing it with my friends?
>>316626987
They didn't bring it over, Platinum does their own localizations.
>>316626719
>don't buy it new
I'm not paying a scalper $300 for the special edition.
I want the special edition. I want to support Takahashi's games coming West.
There is no other real option for me in this specific scenario, but I promise you I will be contacting Nintendo and telling them I won't be buying it so they're aware of at least another voice on the matter.
Again though I don't think it will make a difference. I still do it anyway just like voting.
>>316626364
i said "ALL women"
Are you intentionally ignoring that part? Are you intentionally ignoring my point where I said if you hate 99% of women but like 1%, you still hate women.
moron. ugh, you're rustling my jimmies you imbecile.
You're definitely one of the dumbest people I've ever encountered. There's a difference between hating women and hating all women.
>>316626646
>changing age
>13 to 15
woah what a difference
how do you even still buy the special edition
sold out here