>Aaron Webber says we'll hear more about it in "very early 2016"
>Jon Rooke (European Marketing Director) claims "new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday.”
>Nearly all of SEGA's merchandise for 2016 is based on Classic Sonic
>First4Figures is working on a 25th anniversary figure and is looking for suggestions; "Classic Sonic is to be the main focus, but don’t let that stop you from including other things from his history such as classic items."
>>316602174
>This could've been the perfect opportunity for an actual Sonic 4 but Sega already wasted the name on a low-budget halfass by Dimps
>>316602174
Forgot to mention that it will be trash.
Shit, has it been 5 years since Sonic Generations already?
>>316602174
Even if they make a new 2D sonic it will still be infested with shitty dialogue and cutscenes between levels
>>316602537
Not necessarily. Sonic 4 was a turd but there wasn't any voices or cutscenes.
>>316602390
Sonic 5.
Here's a few more you can add without having the inside scoop from Sega.
>it will be "console only"
>PC version will come out, at the very soonest, at 2021
>this game will come to consoles in 2016, and Sega's 2016 PC release will be the 10 year anniversary, 'definitive edition' of Sonic '06
Calling it now.
So another game without boost. And after they perfected it with Generations.
>>316602660
Sonic 5 would have to include modern Sonic and his homing attack unless they make a point to retcon Sonic 4.
Or they could do Sonic & Knuckles 2 to get around it.
>>316602174THIS SUMMERIF YOU'RE STRONGYOU CAN FLY
>>316602174
>new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday
Do they mean the games being 2D, or having the same, or similar, momentum based gameplay from the Genesis games?
>>316605107
The full quote:
>“Sega has publically apologised to the fans as the quality of console games in the Sonic franchise hasn’t been acceptable over recent years. It’s been tough translating that iconic side scrolling 2D experience from the 90s into 3D but Sonic is still huge for us so the new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday.”
>>316603070
If they fixed up 06, it could be a decent enough game.
If they replaced Elise with Sally or another non-human character, it'd be even better.
>>316605107
more psuedo-nostalgiabait ala Lost World
>>316605258
Lost World was Mario
We still don't have that third Sonic Wii U exclusive (Sonic at the Olympics doesn't count) so yeah, another Wii U game confirmed.
>>316605772
Olympics does count.
>>316605772
Olympics counts fammo
>>316605647
At least they don't watch Chinese cartoons and shitposting on crappy imageboards for more than half of their day.
>>316605772
Even though Olympics shouldn't count, Sega and Nintendo decided it does.
That's cool but they're going to do retarded stuff that retarded fans want like have him never say a word and include absolutely no other characters. They usually go too far the other direction when they try this shit.
>>316605452
It was still laced with a lot of classic elements for the sake of having classic elements despite that.
>a bunch of classic badniks, hardly any new ones
>Frozen Factory randomly turning into Metropolis Zone for some reason
>Frozen Factory randomly turning into Casino Night for some reason
>little animals and egg capsules everywhere
>cutscenes showing animals being jammed into Badniks to hammer the point in
etc. etc.
>>316605003
YOU CAN REACH THE OTHER SIIIIIDE OF THE RAINBOW
>>316604329
>without boost
Good. Maybe this means we might have actual momentum and fun pinball physics instead, granted they aren't bullshitting about "heyday" yet again.
>>316605772
>>316606046
Though extracting Lost World. We're now at 2.
Not that I care, I just want Colors to come to PC because 60fps
Bring back boost, drop the 2D segments, cut down on the auto segments and focus on making the levels have more short cuts and alt routes. Gens was a good start.
>>316606059
That's not too bad
Retarded is only ever using classic enemy designs
I just want a good Sonic game with no stupid gimmicks or stupid friends. Make it more like the Classic Sonic parts of Generations. Sega has been shitting on the franchise for years and Generations was the best game the series had in more than a decade, but surprisingly I still haven't lost hope, I just love Sonic too much.
>>316606428
>filename
silly anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mozMNPvYX30
>>316606609
>Make it more like the Classic Sonic parts of Generations
So a clunky physics-less platformer with a skip button? Just say Classic Sonic.
>>316605003
>>316606272
Well fuck now I have to listen to that.Won't you join me?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCJz33hKDR0
>>316607140
I'll listen to the original instead. I like Crush 40 but that was a terrible cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYW7-hNXZlM
>>316602174
>Jon Rooke (European Marketing Director) claims "new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday.”
It's going to be shit. Expect the rudimentary nostalgia levels (except with still-shit physics), no actual story or characterization, and a 4-hour game.
>>316606428
But mushroom hill was in sonic generationsfor the 3ds
>His arms aren't blue
Classic Sonic died a long time ago, and there's nothing they can do about it.
I bet they're not even talking about this guy whenever they say "classic"
>>316608549
Who would they be talking about, you mongoloid? That's what they have been calling him since Generations.
>>316608930
How are you liking your classic sonic 4?
>>316606428
>>316606689
how can people play a game with such awful draw distance? you literally have to remember what's ahead of you if you even want to go fast.
>>316609361
>HURR DURR DURR HOW CAN PEOPLE HURR DURR WITH SUCH DURR DURR?
Fuck off.
>>316610716
? I'm genuinely confuzzled atm
how many times do we have to go through this
>>316602174
I just want a 3D games you fucks.
They made the games 2D again because casual normalfags couldn't handle Adventure and could only screen at the camera instead of getting gud.
Fuck you.
If only they'd take inspiration from Rayman Origins and Legends...
>>316602461
only four
>>316610936
Me too but I agree with him that you have to fuck off
>>316611573Rayman Generations
>>316611573
I dont like those games.
>>316611573
By making a choppily animated french piece of shit that's too wacky for its own good? God I fucking hate Ubisoft.
10 10
HERE WE GO AGAIN
>>316611693
I don't care. This isn't your personal echo chamber. At least I'm contributing to the thread with actual discussion
>>316612007
what
>>316612139
9 9
DON'T FALL BEHIND
>>316612191
>i don't care
>except when i still respond though
Mega toppest of mega keks
>>316612369
I don't care for your opinion, I care enough to let you know this isn't your personal echo-chamber.
Reading comprehension much?
>>316610716
Don't you have gamestop employees to go mace Chris?
When is SEGA going to reboot Daytona, Outrun and SEGA Rally?
>>316612476
It would seem that the best place for your kind would be reddit, we don't say shit like "Reading comprehension much?" on here. So fuck off, kiddo.
>>316611974
Graphically, it looks better than the ugly 3D we got in Sonic 4.
>>316612687
>graphics
Who gives a shit.
And it still looks pretty bad with this flash shit.
>>316612681
>you have to fuck off
>you're the one that belongs on reddit
Sorry but this isn't your personal echochamber.
>>316612769
sorry you have shit taste.
>>316612894
>actually defending shitty flash garbage
There's indie games that had more effort put into them.
>>316612826
You were not prepared for an internet fight it seems, as your only argument so far has been "echochamber" over and over. You're going to have to try harder than that if you really "don't care" KEK, get a load of this fag.
>>316611573
If only... But that's way too ambitious for modern Sega.
>>316612826
>>316612476
>>316612191
Is echochamber the fucking word of the day or something?
SEGA should do what TOHO did with GODZILLA and just stop making SONIC games for 10 years and then reboot the series with renewed interest.
>>316602174
>new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday
every time
>>316613205
>>316613316
nice ad hominem, try again
>>316612305
He most likely misses the days when Rayman wasn't a retard and the games had god-tier music and aesthetics
Fucking Sega. A good 3D Sonic isn't rocket science. Give him movement speed similar to the Genesis games, have the triggers make him curl into ball form and have it control similar to the ball form in the Metroid Prime games. Make the levels large with plenty of slopes and shortcuts that allow good players to build momentum and do speed runs. Have like 10 levels, each with one main mission and a couple of side missions you can come back and do later that explore different parts of the level. Have the emeralds well hidden in some of the levels and once you get them all you get Super Sonic. Classic style Super Sonic, not the boss-only shit they've been using since Adventure 1.
There you go you have a good 3D Sonic game.
>>316613564
Those days never existed either
>>316605647
fuck off moeblob
>>316612191
>>316612476
>>316612826
who let the fags out
oh cool i was going to make a sonic thread
Been listening to music, specifically https://youtu.be/NwQQGicfI2g
It's really making me want to get it on PC, but I heard it's not all that great outside of some pretty good parts so i dunno. What do you guys think? I enjoy pretty much every sonic game except lots of Adventure 1 and 2, so if it's platforming focused or boost2win focused I don't mind. a mix would be perfect
![kino_no_tabi_01[h264.vorbis][niizk].mkv_snapshot_08.45_[2015.01.18_15.22.10].png](https://i.imgur.com/8YWt5tb.png "kino_no_tabi_01[h264.vorbis][niizk].mkv_snapshot_08.45_[2015.01.18_15.22.10].png")
>>316614530
YOu can respond as many times as you want. Let it all out of you
>>316615386
I finished the game a while ago, this is how long it took me to get to and beat the final boss. It's for the most part platforming, there's no boost2win, the controls are too clunky for me, and I hate the bosses. The port isn't really anything to talk about either, I would hesitate to recommend it.
>>316615386
Music has always been the best part of Sonic games.
>>316605217
You can't 'fix up' 06 unless you consider everything bad about the game to be a 'bug.' You would also have to completely change the level design and character physics because they are entirely shit.
>>316603070
>10 year anniversary, 'definitive edition' of Sonic '06
This will never happen. Sega has been trying to play it very safe with Sonic during the past few years and undoing all the shitty things the mid 2000's games did. Resurrecting the game that nearly killed the franchise would be an extremely dumb move and Sega knows that.
They'll likely just continue to piggyback off Colors and Generations since they were the most successful games they've made since then while milking the dry nostalgia cow with overused Genesis stuff.
>>316616167
That's a shame, it seems decent, but I'll wait for a sale or something I suppose.
>>316616342
Listening to the music always makes me happy it's just so fun and great to listen to
>>316617278
>Sega has been trying to play it very safe with Sonic during the past few years and undoing all the shitty things the mid 2000's games did.
>>316602174
When they say "hayday" they are referring to the based Adventure era.
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/07/23/four-sonic-adventure-3-domains-registered-by-someone/
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/07/05/hunnid-p-claims-involvement-with-new-project-for-sonic/
Hey everyone, Shadow finally showed up on Sonic Boom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqs2wSIPlgM
>>316606374
There's a 60fps hack in Dolphin. Google it.
>>316618247
This show was always really hit or miss with me, mostly miss.I really like Shadow though i'm sorry
>>316618083
No they aren't, idiot. Sonic was at his most popular in the genesis/saturn days, and Adventure was unarguably the start of his fall from grace. His hayday, by definition, are the first 4 main 2D platformer games.
>>316609361
Memorization to achieve speed is one of the core concepts of Sonic.
>>316602390
Forget it
We will probably get Sonic 5 which will play exactly like Sonic 4,have shitty music by Jun Senoue and might have the Classic Design(which is the only positive thing);_;
>>316612318
8 8 SAY DONT BE LATE
>>316618247
"everyone loves Shadow, He 's cool ansd edgy!"
HAH!
>>316616737
you can fix the engine´s physics and make it a constant 60fps though.
Those are the biggest issues in 06
>>316612642
Sega should just hire a bunch of devs to make lower budget sequels to the classics. Prove they can sell.
SOR4 WHEN
>>316618445
I know, dolphin is a really awful emulator though. It´s just not accurate
>>316618690
But the only reason you need to memorize it is because of the awful draw distance, its ´core concept´ is artificial difficulty?
>>316618679
While he was mist popular during the Genesis days (and for good reason) he didn't have a "fall from grace" until Sonic 06. Maybe you could argue Heroes, but the Adventure games were both popular and well-received.
>>316605647
>post a pic of anime for neckbeardsLOL
>>316618690
>the first run of the game is slow and terrible
What awful design
>>316613107
Ubiart is really good at scaling, something flash has trouble with. Legend has some really good looking stages.
>>316605003
One of my favorite sonic games. Played it so much on the computer. Great sound track, time traveling was pretty neat if at times frustrating, and it was fairly challenging for the kid me.
>>316615386
Real bad. No momentum, clunky controls, confusing design.
If they take out mindless boost pads/hold x to win, grind rails and scripted loops they'll already be on the right track
>>316609361
Sega always sacrificed actual visibility for graphics.
>>316618679
>saturn days
He had nothing but ports and a shitty spin off during that time. It's no wonder the fans didn't rush out to buy a Saturn.
>>316618247
I like how Eggman was the average internet shadow fanboy, must have been fun for the VA and writers. Also
>that ending
>What a swell adventure, I hope there's more next year!
>Just think of the hundreds more stories to be told using the same 8 characters and 4 locations. The possibilities are endless!
>Just to be on the safe side, maybe we should start an internet petition.
That actually got into the show?
>>316619048
The draw distance only limits speed. Unless you're playing a DIMPS game it won't kill you if you're competent.
>>316619130
Slow, but not unfun. Sonic is good enough to be fun slow.
>>316613107
Like Cuphead
That looks a million times better and it's done by a team of like 4-5 people with one guy doing most of the animations
God I would kill for a new version of Sonic 4(meanwhile Sega would force an update on the current Sonic 4 to change the name to "Sonic Retro Remix" or some bullshit) with
>24fps animation(cel animation) for everything like Cuphead
>Physics like the classics
>Directed and Designed by Yasuhara
>Art by Kazayuki Hoshino and Takashi Yuda
>Music by Masato Nakamura,Naofumi Hataya,Masafumi Ogata,Richard Jacques,Howard Drossin,Masaru Setsumaru etc.
Too bad it will never happen
>>316618924
The entire hub world in 06 is a flaw. The level design is bad. Playing as Silver and Shadow is worse than playing as Sonic. The way the game controls during Sonic's mach speed or whatever sections is fundamentally broken. Bugs are bugs, but the physics are likely the way they are largely by design, and they aren't great. You would have to restructure the entire game progression, change everything about how the characters control, and make it run better to get a game that still has bad level design, two unwanted playable characters, amd absolutely embarassing cutscenes. It would be ugly, too. Everything about Sonic 06 is visually bad.The music was never remarkable either, it just stood out in comparison to the rest of the game
>>316619747
Dont forget to use the OVA voices.
>My hat is on fire
>>316618796
You can't do anything..so don't even try
Don't do what Sonic does
>>316619469
>he hasn't played Sonic Xtreme
>>316619059
Not nearly to the extent the Genesis games were. If you think otherwise, you're either ignorant or deluding yourself.
>>316620030
No...no voices
Also speaking of that...I can't believe Sonic was voiced by this hottie in Sonic CD(who also sang "You can do Anything" and "Cosmic Eternity")
>>316618247
Shadow's aura is suppose to be yellow not red.
>>316620310
>straight to the insults
Sasuga /v/. I said he was most popular during the Genesis days. No shit the Adventure games weren't as popular when they were on a system with a fraction of the install base the Genesis had.
I would be fine with any style of gameplay so long as it is fun and well designed. At the very least, the game needs to be LONG and not finished in a single day. Hopefully thats not asking much.
>>316619059
Heroes isn't even arguable. The Adventure games you can give kind of a pass because of how old they are, but they aren't good. Neither Adventure game holds up even one tenth as well as Mario 64, or even Sunshine. That's a pretty harsh standard, but coming right out of the 90s, it's kind of a fair comparison to make, and it isn't favourable for Sonic. Everyone knew. Look at the scores the Adventure games got to begin with (pretty good, but not excellent), and then how harshly they were received just a little later after they were ported to the Gamecube. Heroes was even worse, and Shadow was worse than that.
The only games Sonic had coming out that were any good at all for nearly a 10 year stretch were on handhelds. 06 only sealed the deal and put Sonic in a place where he'd need to crawl out of the pit the 2000s games put him in and stay consistently good for YEARS to retain any good will. And they blew that with Sonic Boom.
By hey day, I hope they mean Sonic Adventure.
>>316620202
Are you saying there is a way? Don't toy with my emotions, Anon.
>>316621078
Yes because being long makes a game good
Fucking retard
Sonic 2 is an hour long and it's a great game
The problem is the gameplay itself not the length
>>316621248
fuck off
>>316605647
considering the fact that there's an entire system dedicated to manchildren who are still invested in franchises for kids, I'd say the demographic is pretty big.
>>316621472
>considering the fact that there's an entire system dedicated to manchildren who are still invested in franchises for kids
Xbox?
>>316619130
thats why the first 3 sonic games and the sega cd games khaotix and cd are heralded as some of the best games ever huh
horrible design i agree
>>316605647
Sega did a PR event for the Steam release of Lost World at a pub in London, not even joking
>>316619460
Except that one time they hired people to remake sonic 2 for smartphones.
>>316619553
>The draw distance only limits speed
Yea? We're talking Sonic though. But it also helps with platforming actually.
>>316619936
I never said sonic 06 didnt have other issues, but those are rather minor. If you take out the unfair deaths and long loading. The game becomes a lot more playable.
>>316621713
Fucking Dave, he has no right to be as amusing as he is.
>>316621717
Chaotix was an odd game to say the least, not quite good but not quite bad. The ring mechanic was somewhat awkward and the special stages were like a mix of Sonic 3s and Sonic 2s but it took the worst parts of both.
Had some great music though.
QUICK POST YOUR FAVORITE SONIC SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7S7nsh0XgM
>>316622403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXECQNnTDJs
>>316622403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3NR9wQgZOw
>>316622572
Oh and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwmWZMp8L8Y
I'm here guys. Don't worry.
>>316622403
Do fangames count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrohIsNWZKY
>>316621102
The Sonic Adventure games weren't significantly worse than Sunshine though. If they had the polish Sunshine has they'd be better. They aren't as good as Mario 64 but neither are most of Mario's games. Of the 3D ones only Galaxy can compete. So yeah that's a ridiculously harsh standard.
"new games"? So there'll be more than one?
>>316622880
fuck off with that shit
>>316622956
Galaxy 2>>>>>>>> Galaxy 1
>>316623117
Why? I think it works really well for Sonic. Feels like a mix between CD and Adventure compositional styles.
>>316622956
The most polished 3D Sonic game was colors and it wasn't entirely 3D...
Maybe Sega will remember that PLATFORMING was the focus of the old sonic games, not speed. Speed was a fun occasional treat, that's what made it special.
>>316622956
Super Mario 3D World is better than Sunshine no matter how much people try to pretend it isn't, so yeah.
>>316623227
Feels nothing like Sonic
And I'm tired of people shilling those crappy fangames
At least post a good fanmade song like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuqRBy-Pv34
>>316622651
>mfw
good fucking taste man that game had some great tracks
>>316622787
>*R.I.P.star
So...what happened? We had a brief renaissance, both Colors and Generation were not only great Sonic titles, but they were polished and well made at that. I felt like Sonic was back on track
Then we got fucking Lost World and Boom. Did something change? Or were Colors and Generation coincidental flukes?
the sonic cycle lives on. Sonic Team must be real close with Nintendo the Zelda team these days, both franchises keep claiming that they're going back to their roots and then the game is shit and nothing like the clasic games
>>316623559
>Lost World
>on the same level as Boom
It was what Sonic SHOULD have been in a 3D environment in the first place.
>>316623195
I didn't play that yet sadly. If it's truly better than 1 though I need to get on it.
>>316623289
Colors or Generations probably, yeah. 3D Sonic games gave never been very polished for whatever reason. But what I meant was that that typical Nintendo polish is the only thing Sunshine has over the Adventure games. Had Sega tightened up the controls and got rid of the glitches the Adventure games would be better in my opinion.
>>316623392
I agree completely. I don't think it's quite as good as 64 but 3D World is fantastic.
>>316623723
Mechanically, yes
Every other facet of the game was poor though
>>316609090
What
>>316622403
sonic adventure had a fantastic soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd6nDuNEmjU
>>316623846
AS YOU TRULY IMAGINED IT RIGHT?
>>316623723
I'd agree if it weren't for the shitty parkour and the fact that two-thirds of the levels were terribly designed. It almost hurts to play the good levels because I can't help but imagine how amazing the game would have been if every level were that good.
Sonic games almost always have great music, but 3D Blast Genesis version has probably my favorite OST.
>>316623767
Galaxy 2 has way better platforming and way better level design
>>316624118
>Not the based Sega Saturn version
>>316622403
My favorite is Hydrocity Zone Act 2
But I want to post a more underrated song(imo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iafwfm1xFeA
>>316624280
The Saturn version has a fantastic soundtrack, but it doesn't really feel like a Sonic OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SoTm7jPNoA
>>316624403
Could never get behind that track even though CD has some of my favourites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvqd4PieaFc
I give up on Sonic the Hedgehog, no matter what rosey promises SEGA hands us I know it will always end in disappointment. The series hasn't had a truly good game in years. Yes, Colors and Generations were fun but they could have been way better. Sonic deserves better.
I do not trust that they will be able to recapture or capitalize on the Genesis/hey day gameplay they claim they're going to focus on, because it's become abundantly clear that when SEGA realizes they've fucked up, they "go back to roots" and then reinvent the wheel all over again with some asinine gameplay that has fuck all to do with why people love Sonic games.
Sonic is a relic of 90's gaming and the only thing keeping the brand alive is nostalgia and brain washed fans.
>>316624464
That sounds more RPG-ish than anything.
>>316624464
>It doesn't really feel like a Sonic OST
It does to me
It's not that different from the Jap Soundtrack of Sonic CD
Sonic really followed popular styles of electronic music at the time
>>316623559
Lost World is no Colors or Generations but it's likely the third best Sonic 3D game.
>>316624464
NIGGA
>NOT POSTING THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlAaAlnSBVA
>>316624616
Why not?
It has some awesome birds chirping,some dank piano,some awesome drumming,good bassline etc. and it's not like it plays in a zone it's only in the unlockables
Quartz Quadrant Present is damn badass I agree
Almost every classic remix in Generations is fucking gold. I like most of them more than the originals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=241PyOfMkEk
>>316624903
I don't know, I can see why you like it but it just didn't mesh with me.
>>316624786
The Adventure games, Colors, and Generations are all better. You could even make a case for Secret Rings and Heroes.
>>316625096
>You could even make a case for Secret Rings and Heroes.
wew
I hated lost world but lets not do that. Lost world is flawed since it takes gimmicks way too far and it compromised the main game.
>>316625096
Speaking of Secret Rings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcUun6-7nE
The soundtrack doesn't get mentioned nearly enough. It was right up there with SA2 in cheesiness. I fucking loved it
>>316624194
It was kind of souless though.
>>316618247
>Those 4th wall breaking moments
Damnit I hate liking this show at times
>>316609361
Gee anon, it almost sounds like the point of the game isn't going fast, and you're too dumb to realize when a marketing meme is just a fucking marketing meme.
>>316624623
this. The only way Sonic gets a proper game that's actually good is if Sega sells Sonic's rights to Nintendo and have them produce a Sonic title. Imagine if Sonic had half the refinement Mario titles get. Sega and Sonic Team are too incompetent to make Sonic titles without something going wrong and disappointing their fanbase.
FUCK I JUST WANT SONIC TO BE GOOD DAMMIT
>>316625073
There's not a single bad track to me in the JP/EU OST
>>316619130
>replay value
>developing skills
>getting gud
pick all 3 you fucking scrub
Adventure 3 or bust.
>>316621791
Not surprised.
Everybody who played it probably needed to be drunk to actually get through the game.
>>316625456
>Adventure 3
it already happened, but they called it Sonic '06 and everyone hated it
>>316625315
Oh fuck off with this bullshit
Mario Galaxy 1 was souless too if you wanna go this route
Rosalina and her "Tragic Backstory" can fuck off
They feel out of place in a Mario Game
It's like video game companies think "sad story=good story" somehow...even though it feels completely out of place in a Mario Game
Thank God Based Miyamoto put a stop to that shit
The only thing that annoys me in Galaxy 2 is the game asking if "you were tired" and that "you should rest"
Where's the goddamn 18+ button so I can turn that shit off Nintendo?
>>316602174
I'm interested. But I have been burned so many times by Sega.
>>316625456
I'd rather they not.
>>316625565
If they didn't call it Adventure 3, Adventure 3 didn't happen. Pure and simple.
>>316625096
The Adventure games were bogged down by the other characters and the minigames in the main story. As interesting as the Knuckles levels were they weren't exactly polished same goes for the Eggman/Tails and Rouge Stages and the Kart racing.
Colors was great but the 2D platforming segments really broke up the FAST that people loved about Unleashed. There were quite a few wisps that broke up the speed too.
Generation modern segments had the same issues as Colors. The classic segments were a great but lacking in the finesse in physics they had in the genesis days.
Secret Rings started off extremely slowly for a large chunk of the game which on top of that the auto running doesn't give the player the control they had in previous games.
Heroes, control wise, was the worst parts of the Sonic and Shadow stages in Adventure. In fact they somehow made the grinding worse than it was previously.
Also it was entirely possible to fling yourself off of the edge in stages like metropolis because of how momentum worked.
I'd go on about Lost World but we always hear about it.
>>316625249
Man, I'm going to download Secret Rings and Black Knight tomorrow and play them on my Wii.
I'm totally burned out of videogames, hopefully this will spark something within
>>316625752
Fucking this, nintendo really needs to pull off this "health" bullshit
This is one of the reason why they thought level 25 cap in Splatoon was "hard to reach" when the nearly all players reached lv 25 in just under 2-5 hours and yet they expected players to take breaks every once in a while.
Nintendo really needs to see the reality, not "oh haha videogames are for children only" shit. For the recent years they already shifted their focus from everyone to just only children.
Should they trim the cast down?
>>316623428
>Feels nothing like Sonic
>Is a great balance between Rush and Classic with some "go-fast" parts, and some great platforming areas
Or do you just want to boost to win?
>>316626569
They don't use most of them anyway, so why bother?
>>316622403
Black Knight reporting in
https://youtu.be/oyGTbSbLEi8
>>316626506
>Nintendo really needs to see the reality, not "oh haha videogames are for children only" shit. For the recent years they already shifted their focus from everyone to just only children.
They're literally censoring mature rated games. And releasing half-assed games with nickel n dime amiibo shit.
At this point I wouldn't really expect Nintendo to change. You either accept it or move on.
>>316603070
there's no legitimate reason to think they wouldn't do a simultaneous windows release, surely you just thought of a shitpost based around ebin sonic '06 jokes
Its going to be shit but you autist fucks already knew that.
>>316625334
>the point isn't going fast
A drawing distance always helps. Just compare JJ2 to JJ1.
Also, you're retarded if you don't think the drawing distance is too small regardless of speed.
>>316607426
terrible song deserves a terrible cover
JP>US
>>316622403
Favorite classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1rV9kFs6I
Favorite modern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9z3bK1nQ_Y
Favorite lyrics song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T0uIXLpQbQ
and here's another version of that for the hell of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KXu9R092KI
>>316623964
I'm in Tropical whatever and I haven't enjoyed any of it.
Remove run button modders.
>>316625096
>You could even make a case for Secret Rings and Heroes.
No you can't, specially Secret Rings.
>>316626587
I was talking about the music
And the game is sort of like the classics but with crappy physics and some shitty fanfiction storytellingand sonic rush sucks
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>>316626498
Black Knight doesn't deserve all the hate.
>>316627237
All of them suck
>>316625365
Meh, what Nintendo game is comparable to a good Sonic game in terms of gameplay? None. They could pull it out but it could end up being more of the same in terms of it being another turd in the Sonic series.
Sonic Team has literally no excuses. This was made by 3 fans in their basements by modding an FPS engine and it plays better than most 3D Sonic games.
>>316626791
I don't think it's too small, but I wouldn't be opposed to it being bigger.
>>316626791
I love JJ2 but you're retarded
Sonic and Jazz are two completely different games
Zooming out the camera in Sonic makes it look like shit and unexciting
Sonic doesn't go that fast in the classics to where you can't see stuff anyways
>>316626791
JJ had cheap enemy placement. Sonic is designed to fit its low draw distance.
>>316627391
What's their excuse for the shitty animation and terrible level design?
>>316627512
>draw distance != zooming the camera out
Fucking hell man
>>316627558
>>Sonic is casualized for low draw distance
fixed
>>316626158
Just like the game Thief released in 2014 wasn't Thief 4, right?
I'm tentatively excited.
Sonic Colors was good and Lost World was a step in the right direction, just incredibly rushed and unfinished.
>>316627391
>open world
Fuck no.
>>316627623
>I want a hardcore Sonic for hardcore gamers such as myself
It's hard to visualize the first game in the franchise.
>>316626569
"Too many friends" hasn't been a problem in ages.
>>316627767
I want a good game first, graphics wankfest 2nd
>>316609361
>>316626791
>>316627623
>Using the term draw distance for a 2D game
It's the field of view you dumb shit
>>316627767
*Casualize
>>316627657
That's different. You're talking the difference between any old sequel and a sequel to a specific subset of a series. They didn't call 06 "Sonic Adventure" so it's just a Sonic game. They are free to call any new game they want "Sonic Adventure 3."
>>316627340
>8-bit Sonic sucks
Spotted the underage.
>>316627863
both are ambiguously correct and incorrect
You're arguing semantics however. Complete waste of time.
>>316627680
>Lost World was a step in the right direction
>Dog shit level tubes level design
>Open levels are more like slow ass Mario Galaxy sections
>A gear shift mechanic that handles like shit and is no different than the boost mechanic
>Parkour mechanics that don't flow into the rest of the game smoothly
>2D sections control like shit and level design mainly consist of blocks
>>316627920
While I have a fondness for the Gamegear/Master System games, the 16-bit Sonic games are admittedly much better of an argument.
>>316627391
>by modding an FPS engine
what engine?
>>316602174
>"new games will be more inspired by how it played in its heyday.”
Sonic had a heyday? I must have missed the memo.
>>316627623
>casualized
Are you retarded?
Sonic was always a Casual Game
Oshima himself(or was it Yasuhara?) said that with Sonic 1 they were aiming for a game designed for Casual Gamers(and Sonic 1 was the hardest out of the original games)
>>316607151
Wtf is this? Please tell me someone remade sonic 3 & knuckles
>>316628207
>>316605647
pokemon
>>316609361
I didn't expect anything less, character was nothing but a meme to sell consoles. They had no idea how to make a good 2d/3d platformer but sonic autists don't care because they are chris chan level of retarded and buy everything that has the name sonic on it.
>>316626791
JJ2
this is how you make a good 2d platformer
>>316628435
besides comparing the run button to boost that seems pretty accurate
>>316627739
It's not "open world." It's "not-a-hallway world." Is that so bad?
>>316621278
>he doesn't know
>>316627894
>They didn't call 06 "Sonic Adventure" so it's just a Sonic game
No they called it something much more offensive
They called it "Sonic the Hedgehog"
As in it was meant to be a reboot of the whole series
That's far more offensive then naming it Adventure 3(which for all intents and purposes it basically was Adventure 3)
>>316628565
Nonsense, don't encourage stale pasta.
>>316628351
Yeah you had to have been alive when Sonic was good to get that memo, and you were born 10 years too late.
>>316628461
pokemon has depth. Like I'm not talking about the autistic people that play it competitivly.
But I'm talking about how the formula itself is pretty complex, and it gets complexer as it goes. Sure you can beat it easily. But mashing A isn't the most effective way of ding so and there's a lot of ways to play.
I can understand adults playing pokemon, especially since mods exist that enhance the AI and make it more tactical.
>>316628573
It's basically accomplishes the same thing, except it's slower and they change the visual effect to a spindash animation. Suddenly it's okay now.
>>316628745
>Stale pasta
Nigga shut the fuck up.
>>316611316
The reason fans want 2d games is because the 3d games have repeatedly been utter shit, and at least Sonic played well in 2d.
The actual reason they made 2d games was nostalgia pandering, they had no intention of delivering good Sonic games even in 2d, and they didn't.
Thus, having made shit 2d games that were scorned by fans because they were shit, they assume fans just don't want 2d games.
>>316628975
>Nigga shut the fuck up.
>get called out
>get mad
everytime
>>316619727
was* good enough to be fun slow
>>316628875
Competitive pokemon is where all the depth is desu senpai
>>316629103
>literally just typed that out
>Has done nothing to refute any of the points
>I-IT'S PASTA! HONEST!
Lost World flopped and has had a mixed reception for a reason. The game is flawed and in no way took Sonic in the right direction. If anything, they abandoned the Unleashed formula, a formula that people have been warming up to, for absolutely no reason. They could have continued to improve that, but Sonic Team decided to be a bunch of fucking morons and change the formula for the worst once again.
>>316629043
They did have intention of delivering good sonic games in both 2D and 3D
They just suck at making games
The last good game(and also last good 2D game) was Advance 1 and that was made by a lot of old Sonic Team Staff(including Naka) co-operating with Dimps(as soon as Dimps went solo we got Advance 2 which sucked)
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>>316629423
if you're 10 maybe. That's the equivalent of playing a korean mmo for the pvp.
Just play a fighting game or a real time strategy. Anything that actually has depth in a competitive setting.
>>316629438
>refute any of the points
>points
>gear shift mechanic that handles like shit and is no different than the boost mechanic
>Parkour mechanics that don't flow into the rest of the game smoothly
>2D sections control like shit
I refuted these here. >>316628435
>>316611316
>Adventure
>Hard
Literally kill yourself you fucking pleb
>>316629658
Okay pal
>>316629438
>Unleashed fanboys are the main shitposters
Every
time
no fully-featured chao garden, no buy.
>>316629835
>unleashed
I remember that shit. I knew it would be terrible.
>can't judge it till ya played it lol
they said. Yeah right. I can still recall it distinctly - the moment I first read the word "werehog" was the exact moment I completely gave up on this franchise and never looked back.
>>316628743
Assuming you're the same person I was discussing with, that's a little off-point though.
>That's far more offensive then naming it Adventure 3
Agreed, but this isn't so much about offense as it is about freedom to make an actual Adventure 3 if they so desire.
>>316628975
I really don't see what you're trying to say here. Anon, are you confusing this fangame for Lost World? Changing what visual effect to a spindash animation? This Webm doesn't even show off the Spin Dash. And what's this about being slow?
I am very confused.
>>316629438
>warming up to
That means they were just getting used to eating shit you retard
The reason they changed it is because they knew it was shit and wanted to do better but they still made something just as shit(Lost World)
Neo Sonic Team is a bunch of hopeless fucks
