Not a place to talk about whether it's good or bad, just talking about the game itself- questions, glitches, future DLC/Mods, etc.
Anyone know if there's a way I can build robots to defend my settlement? I want to have Securitrons and Sentry Bots patrolling the perimeter.
Failing that, is there at least a unique Sentry Bot who I can send to my settlement?
Is it an improvement over F3 or more like a DLC?
Where are the robobrains
>>316587516
if you ignore New Vegas then it's still a step backwards since it's missing a lot of content.
>>316587706
Aside from skills what is missing?
>>316587516
>Is it an improvement.
In some areas yes, in others no. personally I fucking hate the city cluster fuck. I attempt to go around a building to get something and run into raiders, super mutants and various other pull shit, once I get on the other side I found out theres no fucking door and have to keep circling it till I find a way up
Settlement building is neat while buggy as all fuck. pieces snapping together has to be the most annoying god damn thing I've seen specially when you want something just right.
Perk system is underwhelming, if you want a perk and don't have the special stat for it you can just spend your level up on the special stat which is fine I guess. Charisma has a use and is decent at pulling in extra caps and exp if you are just doing mission after mission, you can also stick some guys up or even convince them to side with you for a bit.If your on the fence just put it aisde, wait for game of the year edition or some dlc to come out.also the lack of weapons is retarded
Are there any consequences for ignoring settlements?
>>316587894
Anything above mediocre writing.
It's bad.
>>316587939
Thanks anon seems like I will wait a little bit and jack off to incest hentai in the meantime.
>>316587992
No.
>>316587894
Robobrains, a clear route of all the caravans, an economy, I have yet to find anybody wit more than 1000 caps, and I honestly have no use for them.
Radiation acts retarded
>eat food for health
>lose a piece of your health from the food
Weapons don't holster on your side or back.
repair is gone, no reason to pick up a gun you already have.
>>316587894
Not him, but at least for me, what this is missing is good writing. Besides that, it just felts like you are playing a guns version of skyrim. Im 4 hours in and I have zero motivation to keep playing
I dont like modern Bethesda games, but if you are one of those people who spent hundred of hours in the past TES, you will like it
>>316588245
Radiation is actually the best it's ever been in this game.
The lack of repair is great as well, it was annoying and it didn't add to "immersion"
The lack of holstering is bad though, i liked that
Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn when?
How do I turn Curie into a Synth?
>>316588245
> no reason to pick up a gun you already have
That's an improvement anon
>>316588372
I'm here to help Anon. Press and hold the reload button ('R' by default on the PC) to holster your weapon.
>>316588486
the gun just disappearss, i don't think youunderstand our concern
Is there ever a point where I can craft weapons entirely? Or can you only ever mod existing weapons?
>>316587992
it becomes apart of the main quest later. You need to build a portal device thing basically.
As long as you just keep throwing junk into your workshop you'll be fine.
Anyone been to Cambridge Polymer Labs?
Can you keep using the chemicals to make more pieces of Power Armor or can you only get the one chest plate from the quest?
>>316588404
If you do stuff she likes (i love that companion system) she will tell you herself she wants to become human and you can propose to make her a synth.
Curie is best girl
>>316588486
Yeah, you can see armor that you equip, but no the weapon.
Also, how is no one talking about the BEST thing they took away and i hope DEUS EX HR Sequel will have it.
FUCKING GRABBING
i want to grab peoeple, so they don't lie around forever, i want to pick up stuff and throw it around, i want to organize my stuff
I WANT TO LAY IN A BATHTUB FULL OF PRE-WAR MONEY GOD DAMNIT
>>316588684
huh never actually tried again.
i'd assume once but i'll double check when i get home.
i know you can't drop the fucking chemicals afterwards.
>>316588964
you can, just press and hold E
>>316588964
Hold E to grab shit.
Took me a while to figure it out too
>>316588964
>GRABBING
it's still there.
although some things can't be fucking grabbed.
I want to move the old skeletons out of the fucking drive in.
Whose the best companion to have? Combat wise
Please tell me there's a way to scrap all junk without having to drop it on settlement ground.
Also, has anyone used the infinite caps glitch? Does it work with all vendors?
>>316589149
dog probably since you can get lone wanderer perk with him, and you can upgrade him to pin enemies down and shit
>>316589150
It auto scraps out of your inventory when you run out of that particular junk.
Help me decide whether I should get this game anons. I liked exploring the world in Skyrim for the first time, and a little in NV, but not the one in Fallout 3. I preferred the deadly headshots mod in NV to the vanilla combat, it made it feel more like STALKER. I hated all the copy-paste locations in FO3 and Skyrim, and thought 99% of the quests were trash, including those of the factions, so I didn't even try to do most of them. I've quit all these games without finishing the main storyline, even though I spent 140 hours in Skyrim.
Is Fallout 4 at least a small improvement in these areas?
>>316587405
>DLC
more power armor suits
and a bunch more paint jobs hopefully
>>316589350
>dog probably since you can get lone wanderer perk with him
Are you rusing me?
I hope it's true.
>>316589149
Nice and thick.
>>316589396
>>more power armor suits
why?
i don't really wanna go MUH lore.
but i will.
MUH LORE MUTHFUCKA!
>>316589374
pirate it and find out
>>316589374
You will be more disappointed than you ever have been in your entire life.
>>316587405
Are the craftin benches linked?
For example, if i dump all my junk on the chemistry bench, then fast travel somewhere and use the armor one, will all that junk still count as materials?
>>316589374
Wait until the modding scene comes up abit and the game gets some patches.
If you're desperate though just get it, you'll get over 20-100hrs out of it or more depending on how you feel after you've played it.
>>316588380
Boston resident my whole life here
they really did a good job on the setting for this game. All the city region names are accurate, and the buildings are in the right spots. Its nice to be walking through the city and all of a sudden 'oh shit i recognize that building, thats the library this is copley square look theres the church right next to it 10/10'
im a faggot i know but i really enjoyed this
>>316589506
raiders made their own set
other groups should too
>Gainward GTX 570 GLH
>8 gb ram
>i5 760 @ stock
>Windoze 8.1
Will I be able to play the game decently or will it be like skyrim day one running @ 10 fps because shitty optimization?
I have a couple of questions
>1
Since dialogues happen in real time , does things like pic related happen often? Because I imagine it very often does.
>2
Are speech checks percentage based and quicksave abusable again? Because that would suck hard.
>3
I know skills have been thrown to the trash but can you still have some unique dialogue interactions if you get some unique perks other than basic speech checks? Like can you talk about how you know about explosives or guns and stuff?
>>316589508
>pirate it and find out
You're saying that like it's going to be free. But it will actually cost me dozens of hours of playing a mediocre game if it's not the improvement I wanted.
>>316589575
Only if you established supply caravans
>>316589575
Any items you put in a crafting bench in one settlement are linked.
Local Leader perk for supply lines will link ONLY the junk in your crafting benches
>>316589575
nah nah
to link materials to other bases you need rank 1 Local leader perk.
then you go back to your bigger base and hold V then you find a spare Settler and there is a keybind to "Create Supply Line" then you tell them what base to go too and then if you wait/sleep for like 4-6 hours then your Workbench supplies will be fully available at whatever base you told the settler to go too.
Remember only works for Settlers, not named NPCs. This is the only way to share materials.
>>316589575
Junk isn't shared through locations unless you have a trade route, but within one settlement junk is shared
>>316589364
I noticed that. But that means you're still bound to be lugging wall kinds of junk everywhere and won't be able to take any more.
>>316589703
1) no
2) the speech checks have different colors. A bright yellow means pass, orangish yellow is maybe, red is no
At least this is what I have found to be true so far
3) Not that I'm aware but quests do make use of skills outside of speech
>>316589850
I fail every single orange speech check
>>316589703
to answer 2, i think speech checks in this game are fucking weird.
>have 10 charisma, and wearing a +1 charisma fedora, +1 charisma glasses and +2 charisma suit
>Still some speech checks are orange/red
I have no idea. It seems to be % based but it is hidden. I've even had Yellow speech checks fail.
Yes you can save scum them and I advise you do.
>>316589901
ive passed thm a few times, I think it's a really low chance
>>316589150
So far the only one I've found it doesn't work with is Proctor Teagan.
>>316589703
1. Dunno
2. yes
3. No, your character doesn't matter at all in conversations. You get a chance at making comments based on charisma. Red, orange green. Even your replies are actually ignored and they reply to something different. Conversations are a complete horror show.
E.g the detective asks you what you want from him, I chose 'U'm looking for vengence' instead of 'muh missing baby'. Later on he says 'So you are looking for a missing person huh?' wtf?
No you cunt, I just met you 10mins ago, and never mentioned that. There is loads of shit like that, the game doesn't even care about the responses you give. It's a very bad rpg.
>>316589709
yeesh, how spoiled. If it's not money you complain about wasting time on something you got for free.
>>316589149
Hey /v/, i noticed something important
Does the Female Character hase no Ass at all?
Shit my male character has such juicy butt cheeks, Solid Snake would be jelly. What's up with that? I mean, it looks like there is no Crack at all.
>mfw I realized after 20 hours into the game that I can fast travel
I have never felt this stupid in my entire life.
hey guys, please dont spoil me fallout 4 ending
>>316590137
Just wait for the mods. It's all we can do.
>>316590164
your first bethesda game lad?I think walking around manually can be more fun, that is if the world wasn't so empty and lifeless
>>316589703
I get pushed by other robots when talking to people a lot, it's never impactful, usually funny though because I imagine some socially inept robot.
>>316590164
Sometimes I wish I was 14 again but then I realize I'd be as dumb as you.
>>316590137
I found an example.
Just look at that man-ass, could be straigth from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures.
>>316590164
Can you link the source of the webm, please?
>>316589506
Armors I want
>Tesla power armor
>Institute power armor
>Alien power armor
>BIG MT power armor
>More custom armors
Anyone have other ideas
can you talk your way through some encounters like in previous Fallouts or are you always forced to fight with hostiles?
>>316590115
>yeesh, how spoiled. If it's not money you complain about wasting time on something you got for free.
I'm just choosing to invest my time wisely. And I know the magnetic pull of Bethesda games, where I can dislike 50% of what I'm playing and still end up putting dozens of hours into it. So I'd rather know ahead of time whether FO4 has improvements over previous Bethesda games in terms of combat, quests, dungeons, and overworld. I don't really care about roleplaying.
>>316590137
A nice ass would be sexist. Any form of noticeable ass would be pandering to teenage boys.
>>316590257
No, i mean, i don't want to exaggerate, but isn't this some sjw bullshit again? Why leave the male ass in it, having a buttcrack for the skin tight suit, but not for the female character?
>>316589098
>>316589078
>>316589037
I must be retarded, but there isn't an option for consoles it seems.
>>316587405
I feel like, aside from the story, writing, dialogue system and voice acting, the removal of skills is this game's biggest sin.
The reworked perk trees is such a mess as well, it makes everything insanely chaotic.
>>316590526
Don't be retarded, anon.
Only small games that will die the moment they set foot into /vg/ are sent to /vg/.
>>316590474
I did one so far in that mission where you get Nick.
The boss gives you a timer though.
There may be another I have done with this random woman that says she's a synth. I didn't test any other outcomes with her, so I'm unsure.
>>316590463
>Institute power armor
You mean this isn't already a thing?
Fuck man. I was looking forward to this.
>>316589918
I think some speek checks require other stuff than charisma, like perception to tell if people are lying and such.
>>316589993
What about vendors who don't sell ammo or sell less than 10? How do you do it?
>>316590768
There's only fIve different base types in the game.
>T-45
>T-51
>T-60
>X-01
>Raider
>>316590943
Oh yeah, no, those don't work either.Do you really need a free Swatter that bad?
>>316590974
Jesus Christ, and I thought they got power armor right by making it feel like power armor. They were so close.At least mods will fix it >inb4 WH40K
>>316591083
No, there's just this clothes vendor in Diamond City who has the Champion Chest piece and don't have enough caps to buy it. Also, could use some junk shipments.
I hope anyone knows about the One-Bullet Glitch, if he does struggle with gaining material and doesn't want to pump a thousand hours in the game due to his autism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc9dXDZG9kE
>>316591267
Junk vendors usually at least sell .38 ammo by the shitload
>>316591428
Not that anon you're replying to but the junk vendor in Diamond City glitched out on me and I can't no longer exploit her with any ammo type. Karma I guess
>>316591840
>>316591428
>>316591267
At this point, why not just go player.additem f 50000 and call it a day?
I hear there's supposed to be a signal strength indicator for finding the source of relay station transmissions, but I don't seem to get it. Does anybody know what's going on, or can they confirm that the signal strength indicator exists? Is it tied to a perk or something?
>>316591951
Oh my god. How did you figure out the console commands on a brand new next generation engine so quickly?!
>>316591990
Tune in to the signal on your radio and it'll bee notifications in the top left
>>316587516
It's an improvement. Though, it's more open world adventure game than RPG.
Graphics are better and I like the basebuilding. There's three factions, though the rep system is obfuscated and it's hard to tell which actions will hurt your standing with factions until after you do it.
Overall, I'd say it's better than Fo3 but not FNV. It's worth $40 after all the DLC is released.
>>316592042
I'm sure Bethesda set up the entire *NEW* engine to accept the same commands as the old one, for ease of use. So thoughtful.
>>316592178
I've got the signal selected, but there's no notification. I reckon it's a bug, but on the off chance it's because I need to unlock something. What's your character's intelligence, and do you have any intelligence based perks, like science?
>>316588245
Try cooking your food before you eat it son.
>>316589682
it's pretty much shitty optimization galore.
samus power armor mod when?
pic is character but not meant to be samus
>>316589918
The color just represents the difficulty of the charisma check. With 14 charisma you should be able to pass the red charisma checks every time.
>>316592591
You have very shit taste
>>316592591
Do you bludgeon your opponents with her sick pointy chin?
Hardest enemy in the game is probably the mirelurk queen. Even the corsers I can take out fairly easily (10-20 semiauto combat shotgun rounds) without power armor or explosives.
>>316592239
well fuck at least it supports vehicles nowfunctional train mod when
>>316592827
its measnt to look like yolandi visser im still working on it
>pipe, pipe, pipe, better pipe, short double barrel, short double barrel, pipe, pipe, revolver pipe, revolver pipe, pipe
>mfw finally get a .44, the first actual fucking gun
Now if only I had more than 20 rounds for it.
>>316592591
That look like a synth with very very bad human make up
>>316592991
>Enclave will never come back with a vengeance using a giant fucking battleship train to fuck up the BoS dickbags
I just want my freedom fries.
>>316593034
Guns is the most boring thing in the fallout franchise desu senpai
Big guns>Unarmed/Melee>Energy>Guns
The whole point of small guns through most of the series is a generic ass skill that encompasses so many different things, it's objectively the easiest way to run through basically every fallout game, you always have shit loads of guns, guns rarely have fun or unique features besides, "This one is semi auto, this one has a scope" and now with 4 the lines between different guns is blurred so hard with crafting.
GUNFAGS OUT
>find a merchant with gear finally after like 2-3 hours of play
>equipment they sell is 10k caps have nowhere near that amount
>5 hours later receive a big amount of caps still not close to 10k
Have never even met any more merchants past that one at the settlement but I have so much food ammo gear caps are almost pointless besides buying special armor
>>316593265
The BoS are close enough now. I'm content with them being true standin space muhreens.
>That one guy with infinite molotovs that keeps throwing them at you with pinpoint accuracy every 3 seconds
Fuck that guy
>>316593440
I'd use melee if it basically didn't require power armor or ducking into cover all the time when an enemy has an automatic, or there's a turret
>>316593585
>Not throwing a bottlecap mine into his face then picking up the caps
Trying to build Ash right now. Shit is complex.
>do confidence building missions for radio DJ
>doesnt change in the slightest
what was the point in even putting them in?
>>316590164
Fallout 4 target audience, everyone
>>316593770
Your game is bugged or you fucked up the quest, on the radio he should sound like he has his shit together. I haven't talked to him in person yet though.
One thing it's done right is make functional elevators and not just ones that give you an allusion of ascension like in FO3
>>316593936
no i completed the quest it might just take a minute to change over
>>316590369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mMpE8AaA0
Can you still change your companion's equipment? Is it still done by trading with them?
>Fallout isn't a RPG anymore
>Fallout is a FPS game now
Literally *who* cares?
I'd say good riddance. I don't have time for RPG slogfests like past entries in this franchise (3's start was tiring and New Vega's first hours were downright boring). After a tiring day of work, all I want to do is relax and play something easy and fast for 2 hours or so before going to bed, and that's what Bethesda gave me, a simple, satisfying and RPG bullshit free where I can either play for 10 minutes or 2 hours and still feel satisfied.
All these assholes Metacritic bombing and posting negative reviews are all unproductive manchildren who can't accept that their *game* (as if RPG spreadsheet simulators count as this) isn't the same anymore. Thank Jesus it isn't, and I can't thank Bethesda enough for giving me a chance to enjoy this franchise as well, I even pre-ordered the DLCs and can't wait to play them.
Deal with it guys, times have changed.
>>316594186
Yep. Also you can specifically tell them to equip/use a certain piece of armor or weapon in trade menu. Rather than having them only equip what's best.
>>316594186
Yep. The weapon they use seems to not make a difference, but getting them into armor is easy enough. You just gotta put it in their inventory then equip it. I was able to do that for Cait and put her in some nice metal armor.
Right before I romanced the fuck out of her.With my dyke character.They are the Commonwealth Carpet Munchers.
>>316590596
>I must be retarded, but there isn't an option for consoles it seems.
It is. Hold X or A depending on console.
>>316594268
Even if this is bait, I actually agree to an extent.
I like my Fallout with RPG elements.
But I also don't mind that times are changing and games need to evolve, Fallout being one of them. The game is still fun, so it's whatever.
Can I have Curie as a synth and still be apart of the BoS?
>>316592991
Are we sure this train isn't someone's head?
Does walling off your settlement and only leaving one entrance actually help for attacks?
>>316594467
>>I like my Fallout with RPG elements.
But Fallout was always a RPG until FO4, you mongoloid.
What we have now is Borderlands set in the 50's
>>316594639
Only one way to find out.
>>316594676
I know, that's exactly what I'm saying, you idiot.
I LIKE Fallout as an RPG but I also don't mind it as just an open world shooter, like Fallout 4 is.
>>316593770
wait a bit, it changes him.
>>316594676
But it's set in 2287, though, not the 50's.Not even the 2250's
Biggest thing that sucked about this game was
>no witch quests
>no Harvard quests
literally no reason they shouldn't have been in there
I could see the Children of Atom being a group of ghouls who think they're witches because they've survived so long. Commonwealth Witches maybe? Or something. Kinda disappointing. Would've been a cooler faction to be a part of.
>no exploring ruined Harvard or MIT for cool technology and other stuff
sad
>>316587405
There's a fucking fallout 4 general in /vg/ newfag
>>316594863
>but I also don't mind it as just an open world shooter
You are literally the cancer killing this series
Doing the General Atomics Galleria quest. Have the proper password but the General robot needs an ID which I don't have. Is it possible to find it or do I just need to have really high persuasion?
>>316594942
meant CIT my bad
>hurr Institute hidden under
fuck you
>>316595015
No, I've just accepted that THIS is what the series is now. There's nothing we can do about it, so may as well enjoy myself.
Also way to be completely unable to think for yourself, and just give into /v/'s opinion on the game. I bet you started the game and immediately started mumbling to yourself about how shit the game is without even playing it.
>>316590490
Yet you're wasting your time here
>>316595191
>I bet you started the game and immediately started mumbling to yourself about how shit the game is without even playing it.
:^)
is the brotherhood of steel like the companions where you are the leader within five missions and do exactly one grunt mission?
>>316595453
Why do you have 27 hours in a game you hate?
>>316587516
the combat is awesome but the RPG factor is gutted mercilessly.
>no bad guy faction
>three faction is 'missunderstood good guy'
>no reward if you are 'evil'
>some quest is very skyrimlinear
basicaly beth went SJW slowly and subtely, i've yet to see 'evil' quest where you kill innoncent people or destroy a city like in tenpenny towers
>>316593710
not bad dude
>>316588245
There are no Robobrains?!
>>316594942
>no witch quests
I have a miscellanous quest to investigate the museum of witchcraft up in Salem, if that counts
havent seen anything harvard yet though
If I join a faction will it lock me out of any other factions? For example, if I join railroad now will I not longer be able to join the institute when I encounter them?
>>316595536
Are you one of these people here?
I'm playing because exploring is still entertaining, everything else is mediocre to bad.
>>316593585
>attack raider base
>aw yeah time to frag some charlies, this will be ea-
>one of the raiders has a fat man with unlimited ammo
>see the nuke heading straight towards me in VATS
>>316595920
Is it possible to shoot mini nukes out of midair like a grenade/Molotov?
>>316595536
It's amazing to see posts like this when in the last thread someone who hated the game got chewed out because he only 'barely' played through the story.
There's no winning with you faggots.
holy shitfuck when can I get better guns? I found a hunting rifle that I made pretty good, but I only have like 40 bullets for it.
>>316595920
>The first time you learn Super Mutant Suiciders are a thing.
>>316595867
>>316596171
No, I'm not.
The game is a buggy mess, they obviously didn't even test for SLI setups, considering the amount of bugs I've gotten because of it, dialogue options fucking suck, the new speech "system" is atrocious (the text is yellow and yet I still fail it 40 times in a row because of shitty RNG), and speaking to NPCs is a hassle because of the way it works, try and speak to someone, have to wait for their quip before dialogue starts, THEN you can ask them a question.
But I still think the game is good. Gunplay is fun, enemies look cool as hell, the character creator is pretty amazing, I like a lot of the characters, the Brotherhood seems really rad, customizing guns and armor is enjoyable etc. Just because I like the game doesn't mean I think it doesn't have any major flaws.
>>316596216
>when can I get better guns?
When level scaling would allow you to.
Relax and casually enjoy the game.
>>316587405
POST YOUR TOP 5 SONGS AND JUDGE OTHERS
1. The Wanderer - Dion
2. Atom Bomb Baby - The Five Stars
3. Uranium Fever - Elton Britt
4. The End of the World - Skeeter Davis
5. Sixty Minute Man - Billy Ward and The Dominoes
I wish The Wanderer played more often, the few times it finally comes on I get really excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdk9thXzVPg&feature=youtu.be
heres a good video
>>316596259
Did you even read my post? Or did you just quote me out of lazyness so you could feel better.
>>316595858
it's just a quest and there's a big deathclaw in there, no witches. some bs and you gotta deliver an egg
>>316596250
man fuck those guys
>>316596356
Listen, I'm not trying to criticize you for playing 27 hours if you don't like the game, it was a serious question, you answered it, and now I understand. I'm not trying to stir shit up.
>Legendary Alpha Deathclaw has mutated!
![Mathieu_St_Jacques_german_suplex[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FhHFKGV.jpg "Mathieu_St_Jacques_german_suplex[1].jpg")
I did a sneak and critical behind a dude. It ended up giving him a suplex. I didn't know that happened.
>>316596580
you were unarmed I presume?
>>316596302
how am I supposed to enjoy the game when all I can find are shit ass pipe guns?
>Dog lures a Suicide Super Mutant from the street upstairs through a hotel up to the roof and the corner where I am
>>316593265
Who knows what the DLCs might bring.
Don't know if it's practical or anything to do something like that though, it would have to be something to do after the main quest.
>>316596648
Yea. Didn't expect to see that. Wondering now if there's roundhouse kicks and kung fu now.
>>316597030
Well, I just went through that scene again. There's neck snapping too.
What i gathered so far
+ The Companions are really good, they are not OP shit like Boone or Fawkes, and they all have some flavour dialogue
+Shooting is OK, it actually feels like a combat
+VATS is fixed(when you need to cripple a guy and not just click headshot)
+Armour is nice
+The character creation is good
-THe dialogue is so shit, every character seems like an autist trying to have a conversation
-SO few weapons, there is like 10 weapons and the rest is just re-skins, also caliber doesn't mean anything
- Everytime you get into a creative wall because the character you are playing is a father with a backstory etc, so missions like backstabbing your partner in a drug ambush and then raiding a chem lab are just cut off in the middle with no resolution
- Holy shit the dialogue wheel is horrible, you have no idea what your character will say, and even a simply choice like yes/no seems confusing
- The radio is just a bunch of songs from FO3/NV and some obvious irony jokes like "End of the world" or "Cryout in fallout" or shit like that, and it is not a even a good irony that will come once or twice, it is like everytime and the radio host makes the same joke every time
the problem is mods won't manage to do much, add weapons and such, but the problem is the mediocre story/dialogue and i don't think they can do much because the dialogue wheel/voiced protag thing
>>316597292
Yes, good job, you've regurgitated the opinion of most here.
Must be the right one, huh?
>Swan's Pond
>Oh shit he's fucking huge
>mfw he's too retarded to move around the fucking fence
10/10 pathing Bethesda
>>316597404
it is 100% correct
>>316587405
Just north of sanctuary there's a junkyard with a robot you can program with a holotape to go to 4 locations, Also power armour spawned there for me but only after I received the one from helping the settlers. Had no helmet though
>>316597510
It's subjective as shit, doesn't matter though if you feel like it but I'd like it if people would bring a new perspective once in a while.
>>316597538
Got a map screenshot? Or Fallout Wikia page? Name at least?
>>316590164
you were having too much fun, its ok
>Fallout 4 info leaked
>OMG THEY'RE REMOVING SKILLS
>WTF TODD
>game is released
>removing the skills actually made the game better
It's like noone fucking realized that the skills were so horribly implemented by Bethesda that they detracted from the game experience rather than adding anything to it.
Let's see what skills did on F3/NV
>acted like requirements/limiter for certain actions
>added a tiny +% damage boost
>used to calculate % chances on VATS
>retarded bullets will magically turn in the air and avoid enemies in trajectory while in FPS mode if your related weapon skill roll fails
Then Skyrim
>acted like requirement/limiter for perks
>added +% modifier for sneaking
You know they've fucked if you became better at fighting by leveling blacksmith so you could sharpen your weapons more compared to actually leveling the combat skill for the relevant weapon you're using. Now on F4 you'll at least get a hit if you aim an accurate weapon at something and then shoot. Oh and enemies seems slightly less artificial now when the human ones use cover and some of the not human ones jumps to left and right to avoid your shots rather than running straight at you.
>>316596250
>You cant shoot the nuke in their hands with VATS
Goddammit Todd
>>316593585
I did the mission to wipe out the forge raiders and on the way back saw some gunner asshole on a bridge shooting the Brahman that would soon be mine.
Holy fuck did I not know what I stepped in thank god for power armor.
Which faction gives me a non-violent option of finishing the game?
>>316598072
Would you rather not be able to? I don't understand.
>>316598072
Just aim for their arm. I've never not had them explode when I hit shoot them there.
I don't have FO4, but is it possible to build settlements in vaults?
>>316594268
> Fallout isn't an RPG anymore
I love this meme. Explain to me how a game like the original Deus Ex can be hailed as one of the best RPG games of all time yet this game isn't an RPG.
>>316597938
>>removing the skills actually made the game better
the perks are horrible, most of the time it is just crucial things you need and you have to keep leveling up charisma/per to get it.
also a lot of perks removed so they can crumble down everything
Guns are pretty boring, i wish i could respec into STR and END to go full melee, i dont want to waste 20 hours of playthrough and start all over again
>>316598479
It is an RPG. But it's still an incredibly weak RPG and mainly a shoot-n-loot.
>>316587405
>starting fallout 4 for the first time
>get through the beginning part
>want to leave the vault
>game ctds every time I try to leave the vault
thanks Todd
>>316598609
I made a short barrel sniper with a short scope, it's actually pretty neat because you get more of an assault approach.
>>316598480
lel what is it in per you actual need? Started out with 1 perception and haven't placed a single point on it.
>>316592239
Except player.rewardxp
>>316598805
Local Leader
Gun nut
Charisma 10 because the speech is retarded
and you have to wait certain level to open things like terminals and safes because you don't have the right perk yet
I'm not here to say anything over negative about the game. I'm still enjoying it quite a bit. But I wanted to get your guys' opinion on the main story.
I got into a big argument with people last night because I thought that the fact that your character now has a single unchangeable voice and he has a pretty defined back story or personality kind of limits the creative "role playing" aspect of the game a lot.
They kept arguing over me that you still have all the same freedoms as you did in past fallout games but what they didn't understand about my whole argument was that the constraints of the story kind of makes your actions seem kind of silly.
Take Fallout 3 where you can literally start as a baby and decide what kind of man you will grow up to be. And when you finally get released upon the world for the first time you can become whatever kind of person you want while also solving the mystery of where your dad went. And it ties in nicely to the whole father/son "be the man you want to be" theme. And then in New Vegas it works even better because you play as a character who was shot in the head and can't remember anything about himself. Not even his name. So from there you literally have a blank slate for the Wasteland to shape.
But in Fallout 4 they gave you a wife and a kid and you get frozen before the bombs drop so when you wake up in this nightmare mad max world your main goal is to immediately find your son and your character seems to be indiferent about the things around him. There is no reason to believe that this man we meet in the beginning of the game (generic good guy military family man) would immediately start murdering, eating people and fucking other women.
You guys get what I'm trying to say?
>>316599069
yeah i get, also you can see a lot of times you get railroaded in a dialogue or the quest simply ends.
And when you do get a certain freedom it seems kinda odd, like the interview with piper
>>316598406
settlements are set places on the map, ive not found one i can settle yet
>>316598978
>and you have to wait certain level to open things like terminals and safes because you don't have the right perk yet
What? you mean exactly how the skills used to work before?
Anyone starting to get that "fuck it" feeling with Shaun?
I got that with my tribe in FO2 and the vault in 1.
And i starting to want a dialogue that is basically - fuck off shaun
>>316599069
Reposting from /fog/
I play video games for mindless fun, but I also do it to explore a medium that offers qualities nothing else can, because it allows me to see what the world is for myself, instead of having the author/directors world shown to me.
That's why I was drawn to the Fallout franchise, because it allowed me to see a post-post-apocalyptic setting from the inside. That's fun for me. I love going around the world, playing a character I thought out.
But that's where Fallout 4 lost me. I just don't enjoy it, because I know the franchise is so much more than the game allows me to do. I have virtually no choices.
After talking to Codsworth, I learn that everything has gone to shit and there's tons of raiders. I then go to Concorde to find out more. On the way I meet Dogmeat. As the player I don't trust this dog. Why would I? The last things I remember are my wife getting shot, my son getting kidnapped and Codsworth already told me that there's dangers all over the place. But I don't get a choice. He's my bestfriend immediately, the PC doesn't even get the option to be worried.
Okay, I then assume my PC is naïve, because his pre-war life probably affects that.
The first people I meet are the minutemen. They're fighting the Raiders. The character I am, has no reason to shoot either of them. I get no explanation to --why-- I should help the minutemen, the game just assumes I'm gonna do it, because that's obviously the good guys. This here contradicts there entire interaction with Dogmeat.
I go on to shoot the raiders, helping some people I don't know at all. Then they tell me they're stuck there, and I'm their only hope. So what? I don't care for these guys and I frankly found Preston to be a dickhead. So I told them no, I don't want to. But I guess a no isn't a no, because I got the quest anyways. I couldn't even say no. And I couldn't even shoot the dickhead. I didn't have ANY say in what I wanted to do, it was all arbitrary speech options.
>>316598978
Only one of those are tied with perception, and the only locks or computers with passwords I've came across haven't hidden anything I needed to progress a quest or something like that but just most likely had bonuses.
>>316599579
yeah but it kinda punishes you for exploring too early
>find a secret room
>master lock safe
>you are level 9
>>316587405
>nigger talking to me
>expects a response
>starts walking
>can't fucking respond until he stops moving
basically everything involving talking to NPCs is terrible.
>>316599667
>BAWWW MOMMY THE GAME ISN'T HANDING ME MY SKINNER BOX REWARDS
Don't worry fallout 5 won't have pesky locks or obstacles in the way of your precious virtual loot.
>>316592442
I see...well I want to play the game so I guess it's torrent time.
>>316599686
That's nothing. I had a guy trying to talk to me once, I answered once, and in the middle of his next dialogue bit, he called me an asshole for walking away, even though I was right there, and the conversation literally could not go any further.
BoS getting BTFO, I'd cheer but I joined the fuckers
I was really hoping I'd be able to make settlements like Shady Sands, but all you get are shitty sheet metal shacks.
Fuck you Fraud Howard I'm glad I didn't spend $60 for this garbage
>>316597938
>>removing the skills actually made the game better
>>316599914
are u autistic my son?
it is shit to have to wait until level 18 to be able to pass this obstacle
it is better in FONV/3 because you can literally focus on speech/lockpick/science and then you don't need until level 20 just to get a basic loot with like 10mm and .45 ammo and some pipe rifle behind a master lock full of super mutants
>>316599069
>I got into a big argument with people last night because I thought that the fact that your character now has a single unchangeable voice and he has a pretty defined back story or personality kind of limits the creative "role playing" aspect of the game a lot.
Regarding going around murdering and eating people, your companion constantly reminds you that they're surprised you don't do it since it's what the wasteland turns people in.
Being an asshole in the world of Fallout 4 is like constantly being pulled in by a rope, and it's up to you to decide if you're going to resists it by being a nice guy or just accept it and let you get dragged in.
>>316599472
>I couldn't even say no. And I couldn't even shoot the dickhead. I didn't have ANY say in what I wanted to do, it was all arbitrary speech options.
Just walk away if someone is offering you to do something you don't want to do.
>>316600573
Is that a good excuse though? If I say no, I STILL get the quest. It makes the player powerless.
>>316588424
Not him, but the reason I pick up guns I already own is to arm my own private militia.
>>316600129
gather the picket fences journals they add more decorations and shit that you can build
>Assaultrons
Help
>>316601484
Just get a Fat Man. They die in like on hit.
>>316601484
>no assault tron companion
>left handed bolt actions
if anything my immersion is ruined not only by the horrible male voice acting but being a faggot lefty.
>>316600134
But... the skills are still there.
>>316598072
Aim for the arm
Its been working for me
>>316601484
>robots in general
They just dont stop wanting to kill you.
Why is unarmed/melee so worthless /v/? In NV it was a lot of fun but goddamn bethesda.
>>316598406
Yes you have, Sanctuary Hills and Red Rocket.
>>316600029
I like BoS in this one so far.
They remind me of space marines, purging the wasteland from anything that isnt human, living and dying by a code and walking around with giant metal suits.
They're definitely better than the whiteknight good guys from FO3 and the introvert paranoid nerds from NV
>>316598480
Those 'removed' perks are mostly in magazines.
My buddy did Hulk Hogan
>>316603609
they take it too far, I mean for fucks sake theyorder you to kill paladin danse since he turns out to be a synth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN1GahqglVk
kek
I found the atom cats + BoS, but where do I get all the neat stuff for power armor that people are getting?
ALSO: Where do I get something better to wear with my armor pieces other than Road Leathers? I have pretty shitty energy resistance (80 vs like 30) so should I invest in something that will take energy weapon hits a bit better?
>>316587405
Im pretty sure the beer brewing robot has lasers, even if he doesnt he brews ice cold beer so do you really care?
So does this game REALLY only have two endings? It fees like the more I play it, the more it opens up.
Is there any place to buy/get loads of 5mm?
I dislike most things about the game but walking around with power armor + minigun is pretty cool, I'm half considering just using the console to put ammo in my inventory
Do I seriously only get a conversation for finally romancing Danse?Not even a kiss?
>>316604548
Yeah, that's how Mass Effect felt for the longest time too. And I don't know if you're noticed, but I think Todd had a man-crush on Mass Effect when making this game.
Reposting this bug.
I'm stuck at the fucking institute (Quest: Institutionalized) I did every quest in the facility, completed every interaction with "father", got the damn teleporter from Doctor Li, introduced myself to everyone, and planted the network holotape in pretty much every maintenance terminal and the terminal at the beginning room where you teleport in.
I have tried re-entering this room but it does nothing.
This bug is present on all platforms.
I do not own a PC (console commands) and my last save is 5 hours before I even entered the Institute. I would have to do the entire Underground Railroad puzzle again.
Literally looked everywhere.
Some people don't have any solid saves they can go back to, and this is a MINIMUM of 20 hours into the game.
Fucking gamebreaking. Someone help.
Also, fuck you Bethesda. How the hell was this looked past. It's literally the last story mission in the game.
>>316588245
Best radiation system.
Purify/cook your food if you want to avoid radiation, anon. I love it, it gives actual purpose to not just scarring down everything.
>>316605000
Refund the game
Nice trips
>>316604846
Well here is where I stand right now in the game.
Spoilers for those who cares
So I just got into the institute, and I just go back to thinking how much different New Vegas would have been if it was writing. I could have genocided the entire institute. I went in armed to the teeth with power armor and BIG GUNZ. And when this fuck started telling me that I didn't understand the institute, I would have loved to just execute him after finding out that the institute really is just as corrupt as I thoughtMeanwhile, there are so many other factions that could have a solid end. The Brotherhood could genocide all synths, railroad save them, take over the institute yourself, etc.
But it looks like the only choices at the end are going to really be nuke your son or kill the commonwealth eh? Bummer
>>316605194
IT WOULD HELP IF I WASNT STUCK INSIDE OF THE FUCKING INSTITUTE WITH NO RECENT SAVES DESPITE 2 HOURS OF RESEARCHING THE BUG AND COMPLETING EVERYTHING IN THE AREA
>>316605457
Try slaughtering the institute and then going back and pressing the red button near where you came in
Does anyone else feel like the dialog is really bizarre and jarring?
I think it's because they tried to make it feel less "gamey", in Fallout 3 you could suspend your disbelief since your character wasn't voiced and it felt like a game. In 4 it's like they tried to marry "epic" lines with open-ended answers which can apply regardless of the dialog choice you choose, then tried to make them sounds realistic and gritty, have them still give the illusion of choice and in the end failed in both writing and voicing. It's not that they don't feel like actual conversations that can happen, it's that they don't feel like conversations at all, they're cacophonies of sentences, it's what I imagine a robot would think people talk like. I'm dumbfounded every time I talk to an NPC and I'm wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
>>316605703
I don't want to do that though.
I'm siding with the brotherhood because Heavy Metal armor and Commonwealth massacres, but I want "father" to be relevant later in the game.
Bethesda mane.
Are there consequences to killing him "early" in the endgame? I'd like to have that ultimatum.
>>316605752
Bug-guy here
The sarcastic responses are actually kekworthy tbhfam
Although some dialogue is just cringe. And it's often difficult to know which cues result from Intelligence or other stats.
>Spend 10 minutes trying to get Codsworth into a lift in Trinity Tower
>He glitches out once I press the button for it to go up
>Go back down, door opens
>Find him fighting in the middle of 5 super mutants that spawned down from the floor above
>>316587405
Where can I find a Power Armour frame? I have a bunch of the actual armour itself but I can't build a suit with the goddamn frame.
>>316606005
I agree about the sarcastic responses but, for example, you can't just agree to join the BoS when talking to Danse, you have to be HONORED as it's the only positive response offered, and that just sounds jarring when I've spent the last half hour being an asshole.
>>316590164
Good thing they got their target demographic right.
>>316606197
I found one next to a crashed Vertibird just heading North from Vault 111 after exiting. It was pretty neat actually.
>>316606197
Procyor Teagan sells one, and the weapons dealers in Diamond City and Goodneighbor.
Anyone knows what triggers Piper's personal quest, or does she even have one?
>MFW finding out you can enlarge the pipboy screen by pressing select
>>316606421
>>316606197
why would you need more than one?
You know what they should've done?
They let you use power armour to take out the raiders, then you have to give it back.
It shows that it's really fucking good, and you'll want one, but you have to work your ass for one like in the other games.
Or, have the choice of murdering them all and keeping it, but it locks you out of one of the endings.
>>316606264
Bethesda loves BoS
>Danse asks me to help him clear ArcJet
>he already lectures me how i should go
>tired of his shit, use the button to kill all the synths
>danse survives
>he was not even wearing a helmet
>>316606543
I'm not the one who asked, but mine are for decoration.
>>316606197
I just steal them. I find a Brotherhood Paladin, sneak up, and steal the fusion core. He's forced to eject, and I take it off his hands.
I got 6 frames, and I don't even use them. Stealing the fusion core is a power trip for me.
>>316606501
Took you long enough. Now try messing with the camera while holding select at the same time in 3rd person mode.
Anyone have the minutemen quest glitch or know how to complete the quest where you build the artillery pieces? I uncovered the barracks in the castle place, and the woman told me to make artillery, which I did, but then the quest marker just tells me to keep building them. Do I have to make a certain amount or something?
