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What do you think of overwatch?
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tf2 with waifus
will be f2p in a few weeks
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It's not free enough.
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>>316531980
Kinda weird it's not F20 and they're already charging costumes out the ass
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I think this bullshit caused SC2's downfall.

I HATE Overwatch

I HATE TRACER

I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME AND CHRIST METZEN
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>>316532058
>will be f2p in a few weeks
Wait, isn't it supposed to be F2P right from the beginning?
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>not f2p
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>>316531980
>Waifubait the game
>Going f2p in 2~ years and after that they start selling heroes too and not just skins
>Betas only for blizzkek streamers
Cant tell anything else yet
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>>316532319
>waah i have to pay for my games ;-;
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It's a garbage game. The world really didn't need another slow moving corner peekin fast time to kill game, and yet here we are.
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>>316531980
I want to marry Widowmaker.
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>>316532289
40 United states actual dollars
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>>316532289
40 dollar box
unannounced post launch monetization
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Sips of all people actually surmised why it seems underwhelming pretty well.
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So since when is it bad for a game to NOT be free?

Seriously, a game only suffers going f2p, the only company that can pull it off is Vavle with hats, all other f2p games are basically trash. Not saying that TF2 or Dota2 aren't trash, but at least they have some semblance of quality to them (TF2 less so but still), compared to other f2p games out there, that still actually exist
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>>316532357
I know right? I'll just keep working on my backlog anyway.
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wtf, isn't it a good thing that it's not f2p?
you end up wasting even more money on f2p games than you do for a regular retail
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>>316531980
It's as much fun as it looks. I'm a little biased because this game is fresh, but I would say I'm having way more fun than I did with TF2 at launch.
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>>316532706
You do realise this is blizzard we're talking about right? You're getting in the ass either way after launch, but now you have to blow them first
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I've basically made up my mind: if it's $40 with any paid characters or maps, I'm not buying it.

If it's $40 and characters are free but cosmetics are not, I'm in.

Knowing Blizzard's inability to detect what people care about in any capacity, I'm guessing it's going to be the former. Too bad, I was excited about it.
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>>316532738
Whats the actual appeal to you here? Rounds are too fast, people die at a sneeze, and the actual gunplay and movement are pathetic compared to past greats like ut 2k4
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>>316532996
they already said all characters are free
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>>316533060
No, they haven't said either way. The first 21 are all thats for sure included
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>>316533137
ok well 21 characters already seems like overkill for this genre of game. i hope they don't add too many more.
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>>316533137
Yes, and they've also said that there are no specific plans to release more in the near future as they apparently want to balance it out between the 21 existing characters
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>>316533060
And you believed that?
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>>316533242
Again: this is blizzard and that is marketing. They can't say now even if they had more drawn up. They surely do
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>>316531980
Heroes are unoriginal and uninspired.

Out of 21 Heroes, there isn't at least 3 Heroes that make you think "Haven't seen that before, that's a neat ability design"
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40$ only seems like a lot when you don't have a job
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>>316533268
Blizzard wouldn't trick me after Warlords, would they..?
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Who the fuck would buy this over TF2 which is free? Who the fuck would buy/play a Neo-Blizzard game?

Fucking Dirty Bomb is a better successor to TF2 than this tripe.
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>>316533581
>Who the fuck would buy this
Not you, apparently?
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>>316533556
They are kikes, it's in their blood.
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>peak of interest in game
>only people that can play are "e-celebs"

When will Blizzard fucking learn, man?
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>>316533439
zenyatta, tracer, lucio
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>>316533551

what the fuck are you doing without autiism bucks?
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>>316533654
Nobody on /v/ should be buying this.
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>>316531980
If those fucking niggers would give me an invite maybe I'd care
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Another awful game for Blizzdrones to spend hundreds of dollars on

If any other company made it it'd be DoA
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>>316533701
Yeah I really don't understand this strategy. It seems like they are letting all the hype for their game die before releasing it.
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Game is a lot of fun. It's casual like most things Blizzard puts out. But it is still very much enjoyable.
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>>316533701
literally all they had to do was give instant beta access when they revealed the pre orders at Blizzcon and this game would have sold millions of copies last weekend.
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Zzzzzz. Dead game.
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>>316534004
>e-celebs won't even stream the game because their servers are garbage and constantly crash or lag
lel
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>>316533920
This

As much as I like "hardcore" games, I really don't have time for them anymore

Something like this is perfect for a quick game or two when coming back from work
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>>316533956
>>316533789
Watching some people play after the most recent beta wave, the servers are fucked.
They are nowhere near prepared for the amount of people they are obviously going to pull, it's pretty dumb.
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>>316533041
I feel like thats akin to someone saying
>Why would anyone go see the new Star Wars movie when you can just watch citizen kane or casablanca again?
sure the old greats are great for a reason but variety is the spice of life and sometimes playing the latest and greatest can be great fun even if its not objectively the best thing of all time.
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>>316534038
>>316533920
>>316532738
I wonder who could be behind these posts......
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>>316534115
Blizzard couldn't stabilize a seesaw.
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>>316533701
It's months away from release. They're clearly still working on it.

Also, that hype could very well be driving preorders, we have no idea. Would you expect to play any other game this long before release?
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>>316534187
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>>316531980
seemed really fun when i played it at blizzcon. Going to be pretty amazing until its goes F2P and lets in all the disgusting F2P trashlings.
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>>316534187
Yes, every opinion that isn't yours is le happy merchant meme man.
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>>316534079
DotA 2 model would've been the only one better. LoL model is absolute cancer.
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>>316534380
You would have to not be a cowardly jew to use that model though.
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>>316531980
I think making overwatch threads and not dumping porn should be a bannable offense OP
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>>316531980
reaper is op
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I don't know why people compare this to TF2.

TF2 is based on 9 classes that each perform a different role, whereas Overwatch is divided into 4 broad roles which contain heroes that are vaguely similar but have different niches. The flow of the game and combat seems to be mostly based around the abilities and their cooldowns, especially the ultimate abilities.

The only notable similarities are some ripoff characters and the Payload mode.
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>>316534585
This
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im in the beta and im not an eceleb. what are you guys talking about
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Dirty Bomb is better.
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>>316532208
Its more like we see the butchered assets of the canceled project named "Titan".
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don't know, apparently being subbed to wow for 10 years isnt enough to get a fuckin beta key, I'll be damned if I pay 60 bucks for that shit without at least a demo
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>>316534954
So is Battleborn
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>>316532618
Dota2 and TF2 are the good examples for good F2P methods. Other F2P titles get too greedy or impatient and p2w shit into their shop which kills their game within months.
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too many ovaries id rather play something with less ovarywatching
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>>316533710
I'll give you Zenyatta and Lucio, but Tracer is essentially Weaver and her "Ult" is incredibly boring and doesn't fit her at all.
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>>316535047
A bag of shit has more substance than any ActiBlizzard title.
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>>316532357
$60 for a online only shooter that will have lol like infrastructure when it comes to dlc skin and maps.

it's not worth it mate. Even if I like this game i would feel robed if i actually got it.

also blizzard only servers
fuuuck iiit in the ass.
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>been playing Mei
>she's fun, but kind of underwhelming and really needs teammates to back her up
>seen several threads on the beta forums of people crying to nerf her everything because being frozen for an entire second hurts their feelings
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>>316534861
>9 classes
And these classes are divided into subclasses. Demoknight or Minisentry-Engi are some examples.
Overwatch will just make these subclasses as whole "champions" or "heroes" or whatever they call them.
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Overwatch?

Mo' like I'm so fuckin' over watching this shit on Twitch and don't care anymore because I have to wait SIX MONTHS.
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>>316535206
its going to be $40 unless you want the bundle with a bunch of skins. And personally id much rather this model than charging for characters individually which was the alternative
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>>316534954
Looks generic as hell to me. Even more so than Overwatch.
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Real PC gamers don't play Blizzshit anymore. Valve will always deliver real games with actual substance and depth.

This is kiddie pool tier garbage. It's like going to Mcdonalds instead of a fancy restaurant.
>Muh billions served!
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>>316535691
Implying they won't do both.
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>>316532208
i love when sc2 fans blame any game other than their own for sc2 going into the shitter

just get with the rest of the chinks and go back to BW
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>>316533230
nigga if usf4 can have like 40 a team fortress 2 clone can have more than 21
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>>316535726
First reply.
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>>316535726

Are you seriously that deluded?

At least Blizzard still makes games.

Valve develops almost nothing, and cares more about making money from hats than they do about actual videogames.
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>>316535937
Prove me wrong faggot.
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>>316535726
>Valve will always deliver real games with actual substance and depth.

But not anymore, if i wanna put all the developers into boxes, i put valve, blizzard activision into the same box.
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>>316533041
>people die at a sneeze
highest time to kill of any fps game out there currently
including games like quake live and probably unreal tournament
>>316531980
i hate that skin so much
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>>316536050
Blizzard makes shit that takes absolutely no effort. Valve puts time and effort into all of their games. L4D3 is in development, and Source2 just released for Dota 2, one of the most successful F2P online games in history.

You can crawl back to your Blizzdrone safespace, Reddit, anytime now.
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>>316535830
>40
>half of them are Ryu clones
wow nice variety
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>>316532289
That was an assumption.
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>>316534480
Valve had nothing to lose making Dota free
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>>316536424
Blizzard has nothing to lose. Look at all the retards who gobble their shit up. They jew because they can get away with it, that's all.

Their kekold fanbase enables them to put microtransactions in all of their games.
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>>316535206
Oh please. You guys buy games for 60 or more dollars that have an 8 hour story then is shelved. I'm pretty certain most players would put in 50-100 hours easily into this. Hell, the closed beta streamers already have.
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>>316536196

No thanks, I prefer making fun of valve cock-suckers here in "gabe newell can do no wrong, and isnt actually another fat business man" land
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>>316536587
Valve cock-suckers are literally losing nothing playing their games. Blizzdrones lose everything playing with their baby shit.
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>>316531980
Overhyped
Overplayed
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>>316536701
Lose what? Some cash?
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>>316536761
onlywatch
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>>316536761
> Little over than .33% of beta applicants have access to the game
> Overplayed
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>>316536981
>Some
It costs hundreds of dollars to have the entire HotS roster and upcoming heroes. Dota 2 is entirely free and you can play all 100+ heroes for free.

Blizzdrones pay $15 a month for their shitty MMO plus $50 for each new expansion plus $30 for store mounts.
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>>316534480
Really now, paying once for a game is so terrible? $40 is a little steep, something like $30 would've been better for a MP-only shooter, sure, and being free like DotA 2 would've obviously been the best, but paying for games is pretty standard, it's not extraordinarily jewy to ask for money for a game.
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>>316535734
Blizz has said they dont plan on releasing characters very often, no where even remotely close to moba rates. With that in mind i wouldnt be happy to pay for new characters but if its once every 6 months i dont think it would be that big of a deal.

If they start releasing characters every 2 weeks then ill be pissed, but that doesn't seem to be the plan and doesn't seem like a blizzard move anyway
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>>316537356
You are deluded if you think you are only going to have to pay once for this game. It's already confirmed for having microtransactions for skins.

They aren't going to stop there, they have NEVER stopped there.
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>>316536196
>Blizzard makes shit that takes absolutely no effort
They're making a FPS with 21 characters and working on more constantly, and making heroes for their own moba shit, as well as making expansions for WoW, SC2 and Hearthstone.

Valve is still taking forever to fix the myriad bugs and shitty problems caused by the Source 2 "upgrade" to Dota, and it's been literally over 200 days since they last released a single hero for the game.

And before you take this conversation into a different topic entirely with your Valvedrone/Blizzdrone war, I'm not saying that Blizzard is doing all of these different things right. But they're sure doing a lot more than Valve.
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>>316537103
find it funny how you compare it to DOTA2 and completely forget to mention LoL, the game blizz's pricing model is based on and one that is far more severe than what blizz has for hots.
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WHY IS SHE DRESSED LIKE A HUNTER?
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>>316537545
Despite the "myriad of bugs and problems caused by Source 2", it's still the second best MOBA on the market and people are still playing it no problem.

Same can't be said for WoW, SC2 and HotS. Hearthstone is steadily losing players because Blizzard completely fucking ruined the game by making it completely unfriendly to new players.
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>>316537562
Blizzards pricing model is worse than LoL. The grind in LoL is practically non-existant in comparison to HotS. It's dead for a reason.
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>>316537449
>It's already confirmed for having microtransactions for skins.

>citation needed
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>>316537943
i dont think any of that supports the idea that blizz puts no effort into their projects. Even if you hate every blizz game ever i think you have to realize thats an absurd statement
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>>316536196
>Valve puts time and effort into all of their games.

What? Valve just buys teams that make games then spents all that time focus testing and homogenize the shit out of them.
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>>316537449
GET A FUCKING JOB
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>>316538261
There's effort, and then there's mindlessly throwing shit around hoping to keep retards happy.

Effort usually shows quality. There's no quality here. FFXIV puts more effort into updates than WoW does. Just because Valve is slower doesn't mean they aren't putting effort into their games. It means they are taking their time and trying to get it all right the first time instead of just constantly creating a fucking mess like WoW.
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>>316538417
>my OPINIONS are FACTS!!!

holy shit, of course its a xivfag too
fuck off >>>/vg/
this is a fucking overwatch thread
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>>316538223
The $20 more premium version with only skin bonuses isn't a sign. They did talk about others at blizcon as well, to "better flesh out the lore"
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Mei is cute
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>>316538819
>giving people an incentive to pre-order a digital game

this isn't new, it's literally required to even justify a digital pre-order.
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>>316532289
It never was.

People assumed it was because it was like TF2, and TF2 is free.

They were wrong.
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>>316538917
mei is best waifu
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>>316534034
Or, here's a thought. Streamers sleep too, and not all streamers got beta keys.

I'm willing to bet people aren't playing Overwatch because they're playing Fallout 4.
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>>316539024
Nigga the skins aren't for a preorder, they're for a $20 premium. Not only that, they've come out at blizcon and straight up said, while saying more characters aren't on the table, skins are.
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>>316531980
It's a great game because it introduced me to the love of my life.
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>>316531980
nothing.
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>>316539530
Skins are cosmetic shit, so what if you need to pay for them?
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>>316535726
>Real PC gamers
Stopped reading there
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>>316531980
a game where woman must wear closed tight suit and men can wear anything they want
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BACK OFF SHE'S MINE

just kidding we can share
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>>316540779
>we can share
only if she stays quiet
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Literally the only thing I know about this game is that its characters are gender ambiguous. And that's when I have Battlenet installed.
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tumblr fortress 2 looks nice
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Is it really limited to only 6v6? I like big ass battles where I have no fucking clue what is going on.
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Be honest /v/: you'd want a girl like Tracer as a gf, wouldn't you?
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>>316535393
>thinking a character who has two separate ways of turning off entire groups of enemies for enough time to be killed by literally any character is underwhelming
>wishing a defense character who already has an invulnerability/self heal could be tough enough to last solo
>not seeing the ocean of difference Mei makes on every single map in comparison to map dependent heroes like Bastion
Why.
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>>316541259
i dont like big ass battles in class/role based games. makes you feel like you're barely doing anything to influence the game
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>>316541390

Her hair must be hard as a rock with all of that product in it
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>>316541390
I'm a sap for light framed bodies and silly exaggerated accents.
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>>316541390
I'd rather have phera, honestly. I like tall girls.
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>>316541390

I like tomboys but english accents are terrible. why did they even continue existing when we made england 2.0 over here in america that's better in every way.
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>>316541905
>phera
Excellent bait, I am legitimately angry.
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>>316542025
I did a really good job at fucking up. It's Pharah.
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>>316538417
>Effort usually shows quality
thats pretty debatable when we are in a situation where the things being created can only be judged subjectively. Its nuts to say "i didnt like it therefore no effort went into it"

>There's no quality here. FFXIV puts more effort into updates than WoW does
dont get me wrong i like ff14 just fine, but you have to know how intensely subjective that statement is right?

>There's no quality here. FFXIV puts more effort into updates than WoW does
if blizz were a studio known to pump out games at a break neck speed that would be one thing, but they arent. Quite the opposite blizz is a company known to take fucking forever developing their games
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From a previous random Overwatch Thread

http://strawpoll.me/5983678/
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>>316538417
I'm talking about quality in terms of polish too. Like Overwatch heroes look really good and play really well when they're released. Almost everything they do is really slick and has attention to detail put in. That is a superficial thing in the larger scale but they do maintain a standard of quality in that regard.
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>>316531980
You faggots only hate this game because you didn't get an invite.
My friend got one and gave it to me, and it's fun as fuck. Eat shit.
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>>316542651
Very nice of him to just give you his account
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>>316542651
Most people ITT seem to like it you defensive faget
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>>316542397
>1:10

im never getting in
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>>316532063
>>316532319
Good, I don't want to play with poor people.
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Looks like a MOBA in fps form. Doesn't really look like any of the heroes have much depth. Probably based around combos and composition though. Abilities limited by cooldowns rather than player skill doesn't look like much fun tbqh.
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>>316542397
I have it but my current computer can't play it.
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>>316543278
>Abilities limited by cooldowns rather than player skill doesn't look like much fun tbqh.

that's not the purpose of cooldowns
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Really like the art style
Always nice to see a colourful shooter
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>>316543278
>Doesn't really look like any of the heroes have much depth
the skillcap for characters like tracer and hanzo seems very high

>Abilities limited by cooldowns rather than player skill doesn't look like much fun tbqh.
if the cooldowns were really long i might agree but everything thats not an ult tends to have sub 10sec CD's
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>>316543636
What isn't?
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>>316543278
>Looks like a MOBA in fps form.
Nah that's battleborn
>Doesn't really look like any of the heroes have much depth.
Depends on what you compare it with
But yeah, they are limited for the sake of variety, like most modern games
At least they are doing it in a meaningful way
> Probably based around combos and composition though.
For sure
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>>316536358
>ryu clones
Lel, fg iliterate. Figures.
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>>316542732
>lol fake n gey
He has several accounts and no interest in it, dipshit.
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They're literally planning to test the waters with a retail launch then let it go F2P a few months down the line, maybe less maybe more.

it's littered all over in their interviews about why they're NOT going f2p. "Well we don't know the market well enough (lie), so we want to see how we do with a retail launch, and then maybe (lie) put it out as f2p down the line". shit like that.
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>>316545684
I'm sure he does, anon
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>>316537389
>Blizz has said they dont plan on releasing characters very often

Blizzard says a lot of fucking things that turn out to be bullshit.
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>>316546409
Blizzard is basically my dad. I want to love him but he just keeps fucking me.
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>>316531980
>40-60 dollars for the "full game".
>Blizzard immediately confirms that there will be DLC costumes at launch.

What the fuck?
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>>316545723
This is what they meant by this:

"Where going to try to make as much extra cash off of people who are willing to pay for a game filled with micro transaction costumes and then release it as f2p when sales dip."
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>>316547725
Got a problem with cosmetic cash shops?
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Blizzard sells the game like half a year early, has a beta open, but doesn't give people who pre-order access to the beta.

And people actually think that blizzard is a good company lmao.
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>>316536548
>implying the last 10 games I've played didn't have over 20 hours of single player content at a minimum
Nigga, even fucking casual game have single player stories. Who the fuck do you think will buy this shit just for the multi? What's wrong with you?
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>>316547893
Cosmetic cash shops are fine when the game is free to play. How can you tolerate them making you pay full price for the game but lock some costumes out day one as paid unlockables?

"DLC" costumes that were clearly designed later? That's easily tolerable, but no fucking disc locked content tier shit like this.
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I love it and I'll be getting the collector's edition.
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>>316548172
I'm of the mind of don't like it don't buy it.
Just get the $40 version and play, are you really that bothered that you can't look fabulous while playing?
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>>316540779
She probably wants to be shared.

Her sponsors have already have stuck property all over her thighs, after all.
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The whole "don't like it, don't buy it" mindset is an extremely shitty one. You might as well just being saying "deal with it" because thats all you're telling people to do.

"You think you might enjoy the game but you know they're shamelessly ripping you off? An, deal with it or gtfo." that's exactly what those words mean in this situation. It's mindless drone speak.
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>>316548291
I got it for the bastion skin and Tracer hero for HotS.
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I think I want more high quality screenshots of the models.
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>>316548963
She only wants Mei.
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>>316549437
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>>316549001
I don't really get this whole
>THIS ISNT WORTH IT STOP SPENDING MONEY WAAH

The problem with your argument is that the economy is decided by the public. When they feel something is acceptable they will pay for it, like DLC. When they feel something is retarded, they will boycott it like paid mods.
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>>316531980
Cautiously optimistic but $100 aussie dollarydoos is kind of a killer considering I have yet to try the game and I just don't trust blizzard enough considering their last few games.
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>>316549515
are her limbs artificia;?
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>>316549515
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>>316549635
No, she's just got flawless genes.
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>>316549635
Pretty sure it's just a 'plug suit'
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>>316549635
No
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>>316535691
>which was the alternative
Why was that the alternative?
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>>316549515

>Those knees

Good to see Blizztard still can't rig or skin got shit.
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>>316549673
>>316549515
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>>316532618
Except this is going to have the exact same monetization scheme as League of Legends, but with a $40-60 buyin fee for the honor of giving Blizzard your micropayments.
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No one gives a shit about this game, no one on 4chan, reddit, gamefaqs or neogaf or twitch, ded gaem
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How do we feel about pussy powered robots?
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>>316545161
>oh shit, he's objectively right!
>better throw a meaningless ad hom and run!
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>>316549673
"I'M THE BLUE FALCON!"

"Aw, don't be blue. I'm sure you'll do better next season!"
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>>316549572
A lot of people are going to buy it not realizing they there is a ton of cosmetic content already in the game locked behind a pay wall. People will be unintentionally supporting these kinds of practices and them get upset when they realize that their full game they paid for didn't give them everything. Blizzard knows this. It's why they said this is a "test" for their marketing. We all know they're just going to squeeze out as much cash as they can until shit hits the fan and they have to go F2P and survive off of micro transactions. Other games have done this before and Ended up the same way, blizzard is just aware that it will happen and is prepared for it.
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>>316549889
With League though, you have to grind for hundreds of hours to unlock champions and play ranked.

With Overwatch, you pay $40 upfront for all the content except cosmetics.

It's hard for me to say they're comparable.
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>>316550180
Well what's their excuse when comparing it to Dota 2? You can't just ignore that they're literally doing what Dota 2 is doing but badly.
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>>316549871
I made the thread on the left. A solid third of the thread wasn't Divaposting, sadly.
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>>316550357
>Well what's their excuse when comparing it to Dota 2?
I don't know, they're retarded?

League's microtransaction scheme is actually very unique since you can't be an F2P to any real extent without spending like a thousand hours on it, but it immensely benefits people who stick with the game for a few years.
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>>316550446
Neither was the Mei thread.
In fact, the Mei thread was half waifufagging and half SJW-bait posting.
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>>316549613

ozgameshop has it for $72. Videoezy and Blockbuster will potentially have it cheaper closer to release.
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>>316539137
>People assumed it was because it was like TF2, and TF2 is free.

TF2 was not free when it came out.
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>>316550675
Hunting Gastly Gibus wearers was fun.
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>>316550357
HoN would be a better comparison. It started off b2p for 40$, went f2p and tried doing the same thing League did until they lost a ton of people, then went back and are just doing cosmetics now if I remember correctly.
Valve is privately owned, they don't care about taking as many risks. Activision is all about pleasing their investors, need to make as much profit as possible after they already wasted years on Titan just to scrap it for this.
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>>316531980
they should charge for individual cosmetic items too
like different shades $20
new boots $10 dollars
hairpin $5
then instead of buying entier costumes you can make your wifeus exactly how you want and be unique special snowflake
THAT WOULD BE SO GOOD
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>>316550858
HoN is still alive? I find that hard to believe.

Also, HoN died not because of League, but because DotA2 came out. Since it was just a clone of DotA, most players obviously left for the Valve version.
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>>316531980
It's fun.
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>>316550858
But isn't HoN kind of dead compared to all of the others? The Dota 2 comparison is better because it compares to a game that was able to make money and survive very well without having to cheat millions of people out of an extra 40-60 bucks.
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>>316551140
As a F2P game, there are TONS of problems with DotA2 that arise precisely because it's F2P.

That said, one of the big reasons why it's surviving so well is because Valve is pumping so much money into it. Like, a ludicrous amount of money goes into prizepools and cosmetics it's ridiculous.

Even then, I think it's still nowhere near League's popularity.
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Why is Blizzard wasting time on garbage like this? I'm sure it's actually not the worst game but it's not like the world was burning for another TF2 game.
Same with HOTS - wow neato burrito another MOBA.
Hearthstone I can understand, especially with how mobile friendly it is and can't be that expensive to churn out content for.
I don't see how they aren't using their resources to make something big again, like a WoW2, instead of stupid shit no one on earth gives a fuck about.
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>>316551405
WoW2 is almost certainly in development.

But Blizzard has a lot of money and time to experiment and make what they want since Hearthstone and WoW still bring in tons of $$$
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>>316551405
TF2 hardly has any direct competition so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>316551405
>it's not like the world was burning for another TF2 game
There's really not many active class based shooters besides TF2. Who are they competing with?
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>>316551405
>Why are they wasting their time making games
>Why are they wasting their time making a new IP
>Why not do more of the same like always?
This is pretty much a recycled project from the remains of Titan, which is better than just ditching the entire years worth of work on that.
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Blizzard hasn't made a single game this gen that wasn't average at best.

>Sc2
Angsty, story driven garbage.

>WOW
MMO trash, infact the founder of the concept of MMO trash.

>HOTS, Hearthstone
Shovelware for iphones.

>Diablo
Watered down console game with a mess of a microtransaction shop.

>everything else
Just embarassing. So please, what makes Overwatch any different?
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why don't they give beta access when you buy it
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>>316551846
>So please, what makes Overwatch any different?

It is fun and takes skill to play
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i know mei and dva already has lines with their native tongue, but do other characters do this?
it would be fuggen hot to hear pharah and other characters to speak small lines in different languages
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>>316535047
so is Gigantic
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>>316541390
I don't know what kind of girlfriend-y things you'd even do with a semi-immortal adventurer that needs to wear a harness to ward off her time-displacement affliction.

Not exactly the type of girl you can see yourself sitting around on a couch, flipping through Netflix, and talking about which movies you've seen and haven't seen, movies you've heard were good and bad, without actually watching them.
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>>316551864
Servers are shit, you'd think a company that's spent over 10 years managing online games would have this shit down by now.
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>>316551405
I don't really see any game competing with TF2 since all of the arena shooters like Monday Night are basically dead.

Honestly, I don't even see why they should compete with TF2 since TF2 is basically a shadow of its formerself and Valve's dumping grounds for new ideas.
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>>316531980
More like OverQT

Is this the best game going to be the greatest contribution to porn of all time?
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>>316551985
Genji and Hanzo say some things in Japanese, can't think of anyone else who speaks with non-English. Maybe Zarya speaks some Russian but I haven't even bothered playing her yet.
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>>316532208
Wait, SC2 actually has fans. I keep forgetting there are people old enough to have been into SC2 but not old enough to have been around for korea time and the superior game which blizzard killed to make way for SC2. Your game was terrible and deserved to die for having played a part in destroying the greatest esports scene to ever exist.
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>>316551959

Does it have a singleplayer? No? then it doesn't take skill. It's just a virtual sandbox for people to louse about in.
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>>316552061
You compete with them precisely because they are dead. It's not as if there's less of a market for cartoony shooters now compared to when TF2 is dead.

So long as Overwatch isn't Overjew that it pisses off consumers, they can easily capture the old crowd back.

>>316552238
Here's a list of voicelines we know of so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NTrwfySX_3bxr0Q_35zahf3OSD6htR4bIdcOCFYDgBo/edit#gid=1154760360
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>>316552307
Why did SC2 die anyways? I heard it was too sterile and rigid with all the counters and shit, but wasn't SC the exact same thing?
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>>316552373
>singleplayer
>skill
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>>316552373
>Does it have a singleplayer? No? then it doesn't take skill.

This makes the opposite of sense
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>>316552484
>>316552483

It's gonna be the exact same as Titanfall, which required no skill whatsoever, and surprise, it also had no singleplayer.

This is why so many people hate TF2 now.
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>Paheal
>130 results for Tracer
>53 for Widowmaker
>35 for Mei
>only 11 for Diva

Why?
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>>316552690
New character.
Also, the Japs hate the Gooks.
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>pay 40 dollars plus tax for a game that's MP only
>will have 50 dollars in skins and cosmetics
>will have 50 dollars in maps that I can't play on until I buy them
>no custom servers
>everyone only focuses on waifus, while hating characters like the knight, or the dwarf, or the DJ, because they're not women that can be jacked off to

This just looks like a disaster.
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>>316552656
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>>316552656
Cute, but I'm not actually gonna bite this one
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>>316552690
Shit design
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>>316549673
why is mei so fucking cute jesus christ
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GO AWAY SHILL
ONLY SHILLS HAVE BETA ACCESS
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>buy2play/monthly sub games WITH f2p-like micro transactions
>people still defend Blizzard

I don't even know what to say anymore. It's clear and blatant double dipping greediness and yet their games are still successful. I really hate to be a memer but the only explanation has to be drones.
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>>316553042
>WITH f2p-like micro transactions

Source?
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>>316552457
All those things you said on top of taking no skill. broodwar was a chaotic game, the complete opposite of SC2. The closest thing in broodwar to SC2 would have to be the ZvZ matchup, where if you ever had a critical mass of slightly more units you won nearly outright, or the ZvP matchup where build orders did not typically deviate from the norm until both players had 2-3 bases. What SC had that SC2 didnt is that it was peppered with timings that had significance. Great advantages could be gained and great disadvantages could be overcome. It's a hard thing to describe but just watch some starcraft games and youll see what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0NZam1V3L0
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>>316552656
Titanfall had no variety. It was fun to be in the robots but it was so limited that it just sucked to be on foot half of the time. It's like Evolve, it was more fun to play as the monster than it was to play the hunter but only one person could be the monster.

Overwatch doesn't have those restrictions.
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>le competition meme
This isn't social darwinism you stupid fucks, companies work together now, it's called capitalism.
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>>316552809
>everyone only focuses on waifus, while hating characters like the knight, or the dwarf, or the DJ, because they're not women that can be jacked off to
Honestly, I've seen a lot of interest in Hanzo/Genji/Reindhart in these threads. Overwatch has a good balance of waifus and interesting males.
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>>316553160
>but just watch some starcraft games and youll see what I mean.
No thanks. I've never really played either game, but I've always been under the impression that they revolved heavily around base building, timings, and having specific counters/build paths to counter whatever you think your enemy would be doing.

In that sense, I don't really understand why SC2 is hated more than SC.

The only RTS I've ever played was CoH, which I particularly enjoyed because there wasn't an emphasis on base building and build orders/counters, since soft-heavy-hard counters exist and fights can be completely turned around with proper positioning and micro.
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>>316543229
this

no f2p gets rid of most of the cancerous people
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>>316553303
>work together
>capitalism
>work together
Hmmmmmm
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>>316553520
It's melee vs brawl.
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>>316553685

>no F2P gets rid of the most cancerous people

Just like how WOW isn't filled with people who spend hundreds of fancy horse mounts, or kids who borrow their parent's credit card?

They're paying for the game, that means they're perfect.
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>>316552690
She's just a girl in a spandex suit. We have like three of those already.
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>>316531980
>Game depends on Blizzard's ability to balance.

No.
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the game feels really good to play. it just feels polished. I'm pretty happy it's not going to be F2P as well because Voice chat is going to make this game actually playable in pubs and if it's F2P its going to ruin that imo.
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>>316554116
i'm not saying everyone who pays is perfect

just saying f2p brings in a shit ton more undesirables which i'd rather pay to no play with
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