https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwq22FN2MSo
Shame the actual footage is still low quality but you can tell it looks much better than it did at E3.
>>316518290
It is better now.
But people will still shit on it. Graphics are just an excuse. If SFZ looked super good, shitposters would niptick another detail and complain about it.
>>316518562
Another common complaint was that it looked empty but the new trailer shows much busier environments
>>316518659
The AI of smaller enemies seemed slightly more aggressive too.
Damn he's really trying to explain away the bad graphics in parts.
>>316518290
I just hope it still runs at 60 fps or close.
>>316518902
It runs 60 fps on both TV and gamepad at the same time.
I hate how everything has to give off that disgusting glow in Wii U games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2mmnOBJPTI
that music is so glorious
>>316518290
>doubting Nintendo and Platinum
Who won't /v/ ever learn?
>>316518290
This is common for Nintendo, no matter what you think of them, they tend to show the games "as is", not "what if".
>>316519275
>Arwing becomes Walker
>Fast walking, dodging and fast paced shooting
>Walker is basically Star Fox Platinum-mode
It only lacks a pseudo-Witch Time when you dodge a bullet.
Graphics looks good enough, my only worry is the duration of the game.
>>316519695
Exactly what I thought when I saw it. The Walker looks fun as fuck
https://youtu.be/SxMoAQT3D4E?t=108
I think it looks neat, don't mind the haters.
>>316519337
Holy shit, playing the demo, I did not notice the amount of detail they have.
Seriously, that air conditioner sticking out the window has sold me on the game.
>>316519787
If older StarFox games (except Adventures) are of any indication, the game will be short but with enough branching paths it will have a lot of replayability value.
And replayability is the strong point of many Platinum's games.
>>316519678
>not "I am become /v/"
>>316518290
It looks better but not particularly impressive still. I'm fine with it though. At least Nintendo games either stay the same or get better from E3 while everyone else's gets massive downgrades.
>>316520249
Oh and they also run at 60 fps which most console games still don't do for some dumb "lel cinematic" reason.
It looks boring
>>316520075
I wonder if they will have the silver/gold/Platinum/PP rank system in this game
>>316520414
Didn't Assault have something vaguely similar?
>>316519275
>>316520526
I think so. Unlike 64 it had a ranking system instead of a "Fail/Win/True Path" situation.
Funny how the game hasn't evolved in any way since Star Fox 2.
>>316520558
Oh man, it's the fucking little details. I love it.
>>316520656
yeah i honestly cant tell the difference between the 2
>>316518290
It looks better now but for one of the few big first party WiiU games coming it should look considerably better still
Well shit, Arwing looks worse.
>>316520608
Then I'm confident we will get a Platinum ranking system, along to many other "Platinum feel" details.
>>316520884
It doesn't though. He goes on to explain how it has a lot more detail on it now
>>316520884
Actually, the blue part of the wings have more details now.
>>316520075
>is the strong point of many Platinum's games.
You realise they have fuck all to do with making the game right? They are just doing texture work and stuff
The whole slapping platinum on there is just a marketing ploy
>>316520884
It could not be more obvious that you've cropped and expanded the left image. Shill/10.
>>316521038
It's very clear from the footage they are more involved than that. Just look at the walker parts.
>>316520786
MUH GRAPHICS
fuck off, gameplay mechanis are all teh fucking same
but oh yeah, the aircraft makes such a difference now
>>316521038
Yeah, no. Hashimoto made it clear Platinum has an important role in the gameplay. Platinum devs even said Miyamoto scared them, which means Moyamoto is following them.
Platinum is important in SFZ just like in Nier 2. Both games have the gameplay done by Platinum.
>>316518290
Still looks pretty bad for an almost exclusively on rail shooter
Kingdom Hearts 2 gumiship routes have more shit going on
>>316521381
You could use the little ROB explorer in 2?
>>316520558
Damn. I'm a little sad now.
>>316518290
I cancelled my pre-order because of the graphics @ E3
they aren't going to fool me.
>>316521510
Just like Gumship stages were easier in the beginning and harder near the end, same applies to every StarFox ever. First stages are always easier.
>>316521232
>>316521428
>made it clear
So you mean said nothing directly and made it sound like they were involved
>>316521516
the aircraft shit does not make a fucking huge difference
it's like adding a mini-puzzle in the game and call it a whole new experience
its still the same game by a large margin since Star Fox 2.
>>316518290
>Nintendrones not realizing that this is the result of criticism not dickhugging
>>316521645
So I guess they are lying about Scalebound and Nier 2 too.
Or only Nintendo lies?
>>316521027
>>316521031
The footage he calls flat does a lot more justice to the Arwing. I prefer the old lighting and the blue window.
The walker footage, on the other hand, does looks better on the new build.
>>316521654
>It's the same!
>Point out difference
>It doesn't count!
Ok.
I guess 64 is shit too since it is just the SNES game with smaller differences. Nevermind SF2 was never released officially, right? It doesn't count.
>>316522048
No, you just refuse to listen. Fucking idiot. BY A LARGE MARGIN, the game is still the same.
The aircraft is not a gigantic thing that changes the gameplay at all. At most, it's just a minigame that extends your time for 20-30 seconds.
And I never said it'd be shit because of it. Just that it's funny how the game is now really teh same as SF2.
fuck off
>>316521936
Not trying to find excuses here but the Direct footage was pretty bad, video-quality wise. While the E3 footage was direct feed, wasn't it?
>>316521858
How can you not see the difference between saying they are making the combat/game and they are clearly involved
One is direct, the other is wishy washy. The only thing direct I could find was saying Kamiya is not involved
Hashimoto also addressed a commonly asked question: Is Platinum Games' Hideki Kamiya, a vocal Star Fox fan, involved in development of Star Fox Zero? No, he said, "not in any way shape or form." Kamiya's only input, Hashimoto said, is "Do your best."
>http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/16/8790483/star-fox-zero-wii-u-nintendo-platinum-games
>>316522225
Yes.
>>316522226
I don't know. The rest of the footage doesn't look as bright.
>>316522310
u mad :^)
I actually like how everything looks like a toy. Those ground graphics are a bit of a shame, though. Should have kept it more in space.
what would a world where star fox 2 was released and sold well look like?
>>316522284
Kamiya is not Platinum. Kamiya not being involved doesn't imply Platinum is not working on SFZ's gameplay.
Your reasoning is straight up "Nintendo is lying by default, other companies don't". What the fuck?
But I got it. This is just an endless shitflinging. I can't wait to see SFZ's ending credits listing Platinum Games' staff for the gameplay. I'm sure you won't even bother to post then.
>>316522657
>In an interview with Nintendo Life in 2015, Dylan Cuthbert reveals he has a copy of the game's finalised ROM image, completely reviewed and debugged by Mario Club, which he acquired during the development of Star Fox Command, and states that the mastered ROM image sustains many elements that remain missing from the prototype ROM images floating on the web.
why is Cuthbert such a prick?
>>316522515
Yes.
>>316522794
I think he's bullshitting us, I can't think of any other thing a ''finished'' version of Star Fox 2 would have that isn't the Multiplayer correctly integrated into the game, as well as them getting rid of that weird glitch where you turn into Fox out of nowhere
>>316522749
>Your reasoning is straight up "Nintendo is lying by default, other companies don't".
My mentality is other companies have said Platinum is doing X, as in straight up said they are making the combat. Nintendo at best danced around what they are doing, if they were actually making a significant part of the game or a majority they'd just say it
stay deluded
>>316520656
It's a rail shooter.
You can't really evolve it much besides having a different vehicle on rails.
And there is nothing wrong with it as long as each new game feels fresh and plays good.
I don't know why the modern vidya audience is so obseset with everything having to be new and uniqe and not something from the past. If it works, it's good. Polish it, make it feel good.
>>316520558
Huh, the picture is kinda torn off.
>>316523329
guess who was torn out
Arwing amiibo plss
>>316523514
>landmaster, arwing, walker and gyrowing amiibos
>amiibos for andross and star wolf
>>316521038
Platinum aren't exactly known for their graphical prowess, but when it comes to action gameplay they're fucking gods. so i doubt they'll just be making graphics
>>316518290
Yeah, it's actually a big difference even without comparing it side by side if watched the direct.
I guess I'll get it.
UNCLE ANDROSS
>>316523931
>Platinum aren't exactly known for their graphical prowess
Seeing how the game looks even after the upgrade shit starts to make a lot of sense
>>316524137
Andrew is that kid
I wonder if they'll bring back Snes/SF2 compositions for the music.
I'll admit, it'll be kind of weird to play a star fox game where the music doesn't use the same snyth/soundscape as the console's zelda game
>>316525359
I hope it's a mix of SNES/64 and some new stuff.
A nice Zoness remix would make me hard as fuck.
>>316525569
I just hope it's not all 64 recycling. It had the weakest ost of the first 3 games, imo.
>>316525569
>>316525661
>>316525359
I want an Eladard remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChNYlp_0Rqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ecRfuFgsQ
shit was so good.
>>316525815
I would be happy with any Star Fox 2 song being in, game had a really fucking good soundtrack, let me tell you.
However, if my songfu appears in the game they better treat it right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=narlsV311tA
So it's safe to say that /v/ is more tolerant about Star Fox Zero now?
>>316526040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beNPTyi5vME
>>316526129
I guess. A lot of people still dislike that it's too samey, but it does look better graphically.
>>316525661
Yeah, I wouldn't really disagree. I think 64 had some fantastic songs that rank with the best, but the SNES games had better OSTs on average.
>>316526129
Haven't been on /v/ in a few months but the post-E3 threads seemed to mostly be people arguing about grafix for some reason. It seems better now.
I'm glad it was delayed though, since I was worried they were rushing it out of the door before polishing the gameplay.
>>316526040
I think a Macbeth remix would be cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2fNfKz3THM
Yeah I noticed it looked better too. Shame it got overshadowed by everything else. I'm glad that Nintendo recognized that the game needed some work and spent a few extra months on it.
>inb4 Falco gets a Gravmaster instead of a Landmaster in Smash 5
>>316522794
>we will never get it officially released like we did Earthbound Zero
>>316526853
Isn't nintendo incapable of emulating the SF chip or something?
I forget why they haven't ever released star fox on the virtual console.
wow a nice star fox thread on /v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfaG6qAebWU
>>316519337
>they slightly change their lighting and shader engines and it makes the game look 200x better
I guess they also probably doubled the polycount of the models, but it really goes to show just how much oomph you can get out of some very low-cost improvements.
I don't really care about star fox and won't buy it either way, but I think the graphics are fine, my issue with it is there's no sense of scale.
When flying the tank, the helicopter, or the walker, it feels like you are toy sized.
>>316529893
>toy sized
Miyamoto wanted Star Fox to feel like a Thunderbirds episode, so I guess he got that right
I hope theslot machinereturns
>>316523471
shiiiiiiiit
That's a pretty damn good small detail.
>>316525815
>>316526040
I want this as the main menu theme since it would fit perfectly and still sounds fucking radical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvkkqxs8m0
All they did was polish a turd, it still looks awful.
>>316518290
Almost everything in the new footage looks worse
fite me
