How do we stop Nintendo?
>>316516840
okey
>>316516840
any porn yet?
stop them from what? wii u sales have been shit and are abandoning the console
I just realized there will be fanart of Cloud hanging with the rest of the smash roster. I love those kinds of "random characters interacting" fanart things.
>>316516992
:3
Killing his CEO again.
>Cloud
>Not Warrior of Light
>Not Firion
>Not Cecil
>Not Kain
>Not Theodor
>Not Gilgamesh
>Not Terra
>Not Auron
>Not Balthier
>Not Gabranth
>Not literally any character but Cloud
>>316517814
>he doesn't want to mosey
Who the fuck is Theodore and why do you hate Butz?
>>316517943
I think he meant Ceodore, son of Cecil and Rosa, the hero of FF4: The After Years. For some strange reason that game is hugely popular in Japan.
>>316517943
>Who is Theodor
Golbez.
I actually forgot about Bartz (he always struck me as rather boring, anyway), but all the same. Still preferable to Cloud.
>>316518191
>IXfags ruining yet another Final Fantasy thread
SIGH
>>316517814
at least it wasn't Lighting.
>>316516992
>>316518318
Cloud and Lightning are essentially the same person. The only difference is that Lightning has pink hair and is slightly more masculine.
>>316516840
By first stopping your faggotry, OP.
>>316518318
Square's lighting + nintendo's lighting int he same game.
/v/'s head would explode from the sheer rage of petty hate.
>>316517814
Definitive list:
>Warrior of Light
>Emperor Mateus
>Cloud of Darkness
>Cecil
>Gilgamesh
>Terra
Considering none of the later titles even appeared on Nintendo consoles, conventional wisdom would dictate that they draw only from FF I-VI.
>>316519270
Cecil makes the most sense to me
>FF4 loved in both Japan and the west
>Remade many times on Nintendo consoles
>Had a recent sequel so is still somewhat fresh
>Being Paladin/Dark Knight could give him some interesting moveset potential
>>316519673
>interesting moveset potential
This is why he never stood a chance.
Sakurai gives so little fucks about smash, he'd rather copypaste the animations of other characters than come up with an original moveset that people might enjoy.
Don't believe me, look at the DLC characters released so far and name one that actually has a unique moveset that isn't just borrowed from other games.
>>316520278
>Cloud and Mario will be in the same game and will fight each other to the death
Is this a dream?
>>316520278
>Don't believe me, look at the DLC characters released so far and name one that actually has a unique moveset that isn't just borrowed from other games.
Mewtwo and Ryu don't play like other characters in the game and Roy is pretty damn different from how he was in melee.
Unless you're trying to imply Ryu playing like a SF character in smash is just a lazy rehash in which case you're either baiting or legitimately retarded.
>>316518257
This guy
>>316520490
Mewtwo is basically borrowed from Melee and Ryu's moveset hasn't had any significant changes in years.
It's easy to port these characters over since they don't require any conceptualizing and have already had the groundwork set long before this game was even in development.
>>316518383
>>316519418
>kirby with Cloud's hair and the buster sword
I realized it just now, I want to see it
>>316520809
>Ryu
>ported
What the fuck do you want though? The entire point of smash is to take them all from their own game and give them a moveset that represents their already existing moveset.
>>316521114
He wants Ryu to play like Dhalsim or some shit.
That, or he's shitposting. Probably the latter.
>>316521114
>>316521190
How about someone who actually has potential as a unique fighter rather than taking characters who already have defined fighting game movesets?
Part of the fun is seeing how all these characters, most of whom haven't even been seen fighting hand-to-hand in their original games, and seeing how they managed to come up with a unique moveset while still referencing the origins of their moveset.
For example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94Pl8vDGCA
But simply porting a characters moveset from better games is just lazy as shit, since all that'd need to be done is copying the moveset while making sure that they're balanced for sm4sh.
I want characters that haven't been seen before, not characters that I already could play as.
>>316522293
shut up
>>316522293
>I want characters that haven't been seen before, not characters that I already could play as.
You couldn't play as Ryu in a smash game before though.
I mean seriously Street Fighter is nothing like Smash Bros. I'm not wasting more energy trying to argue this with you since if you can't understand that you have serious mental issues.
>>316522383
No.
>>316522293
Cloud has only been playable in 2 Fighting games, Ergheiz and Dissida and neither of them are like Smash Bros.
His movepool is interesting and there's nothing really ported other than the attack names.
>>316522524
I know what to expect from Ryu though, I've played SF enough to know his moveset and the novelty wears off quickly once I realize "this is simply Ryu but in a shittier game with less depth."
Where's the newcomers, the characters who'd show as much hype as when Sonic and Snake were revealed in Brawl?
>>316522753
That's pretty ironic considering that in the webm you're showing, his F.S. is basically "Great Aether."
Hell, the animations for some of his moves are straight up copypasted from other characters too.
The only unique thing about him is his limit break, which is probably going to end up being a pointless gimmick like the monados or the KO punch.
>>316522753
I wonder if he'll do omnislash v5 if he's wearing his AC outfit/hits someone in the air?
>>316522975
>the characters who'd show as much hype as when Sonic and Snake were revealed in Brawl?
Are you seriously implying Cloud wasn't as unexpected and exciting as Snake was back in Brawl? Are you seriously implying Ryu wouldn't be pretty damn out of left-field if he wasn't datamined beforehand?
Is there any reaction videos from a fangirl?
Any new drawings that have Link and Cloud featured?
>>316522975
Cloud did Omnislash before Ike and his Great Aether.
>>316523364
>>316523159
Most people who are hardcore Nintendo fans (which, y'know, the game is appealing towards in the first place) didn't even know it was Cloud until they literally showed him on screen.
And Ryu was cool but, again, he basically became a novelty once it turned out that he didn't have the tools to survive in sm4sh's environment.
At this point, it just seems like Sakurai is just throwing the most recognizable characters in the roster just to keep the game from falling into irrelevancy for just a little longer.
>>316523378
Not within the context of smash.
Even then, I don't remember Cloud launching people into the air before he omnislashed them.
>>316523836
>And Ryu was cool but, again, he basically became a novelty once it turned out that he didn't have the tools to survive in sm4sh's environment.
Ryu is one of the higher tier characters, you realize.
>>316518928
>Square's lighting
You just went full retard. Never mind the rest of your post.
>>316523973
Either a fluke or he's going to get nerfed in a later patch.
Such is the fate of higher-mid tier characters.
>how do we stop nintentdo
Tell the IS they insulted their prophet and god.
>cloud making it over biggs and wedge
ya fucked up nintendo
>>316522975
>Sonic and Snake
Their moves are all borrowed from their games also. You don't know what you want.
>>316526491
Dude
We don't even have ice climbers
>>316516949
>and are abandoning the console
>Source: My ass
Can this meme just die please?
It's not fucking fair! We've been waiting for a FF7 remake for YEARS and when it comes the PCfags and Xkeks get it too? And on top of that Nintendo fucking stole Cloud and put him on the fucking Wii U?
Why the fuck does this always happen to us Sonybros?
>there is now a smash character that hasn't appeared in BitF
>Final Smash isn't Knights of the Round
>>316526712
Last I checked, Sonic and Snake aren't from platform fighters mate.
Stop being stupid, if you can of course.
>>316518318
lightning is on her way and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it.
>>316528064the whole final smash would take 2 minutes
>>316528064
Sephiroth should get in as an assist trophy and use supernova
So is Dissidia NX (if it happens) gonna have a Nintendo guest character?
I think Link would be the best fit
>>316528796
If that does happen it'll obviously be Link.
I'm expecting it to stay on PS4 though.
>>316528796
it could be Ike or Nintendo's lightning.
>>316529231
>Mario character in a FF fighting game
Holy shit it can actually work
>Cloud wont have a crossdressing alt costume
>>316529386
I can see something like this happening, they have done some other crossover stuff too like sport mix and fortune street.
>>316529521
We need more Mario White Mage.
I've never played ff7, what exactly about cloud is so great?
>>316529808
mah nigga
>>316530049
Cloud's more interesting than the typical JRPG protagonist since he turns out to be a false narrator and turns the game on its head in its second disc.
His popularity comes less from his role in the game and more from being the mascot of the game that put JRPGs on the map and made Sony an actual competitor in the console race, though. FF7 is a landmark game for the industry as a whole, let alone being the most popular game in one of the most recognizable videogame franchises out there.
>>316528773
>assist trophy
Now that you mention it, why won't nintendo add more assits trophies? they just add characters and stages.
>>316530870
I don't know maybe AI stuff?
A Chun Li assist trophy would be cool though
>>316530294
>Cloud's more interesting than the typical JRPG protagonist since he turns out to be a false narrator and turns the game on its head in its second disc.
this, for some reason people think he's your average emo anime character by his appeareance or KH, Cloud is a cool guy in general, maybe a little angsty later but at least seens like they want to go for that vibe he had in his original game.
>>316531221
Advent Children didn't help since he was dying from magic space cancer in it, making him depressing for most of the movie.
The early 2000's really hurt the characters image and its only started to recover in the past few years.
>>316516992
>Cloud Strife hanging out with Mega-Man
12 year old me would have a huge orgasm from hearing that is actually going to happen.
What games will the Cloud Amiibo work in?Buster sword for Link in Zelda U
>>316531874
probably FF explorers for now, maybe future FF games for nintendo consoleslike FF7 remake for the NX
>>316531874
Smash definitely, Super Mario Maker maybe.
Final Fantasy Explorers is out in Japan and it doesn't have amiibo functionality
>>316531317
>most of the movie
Just watched AC last night and I noticed something. After Cloud gets healed and goes to fight Kadaj, there's a point in the fight when he gets the upper hand and he flashes this wolfish "I'm gonna fuck you up" smirk at Kadaj.
It just for a second but that glimmer of fighter's confidence made me like him a lot more after I noticed that.
>>316531548
>manlets, when will they learn.png
>>316517814
Cloud is Reddit the character and Nintendo wants to cater to Reddit, Tumblr, and Gaf.
>>316533767
>Cloud is Reddit the character
What the fuck does this even mean
We shouldn't stop Nintendo because now we have the opportunity to see more Link/Cloud porn, like that one picture. You know the one.
>>316516992
Roy and Cloud as Lelouch and Suzaku from Code Geass when?
>>316533832
Reddit loves to play the victim of circumstance and loves Final Fantasy more than most popular games.
>>316533832
It means he doesn't like Cloud, duh.
>>316522293
So you actually want more Warios and Captain Falcons? More completely made up movesets? While I personally like Wario in Smash people usually lean toward the contrary and start bitching about Wario Land.
>>316529808
Miniskirt white mages are literally dickdiamonds to me
I mean fuck something about it pushes the right buttons for me
The market already stopped Nintendo.
>>316532954
>Calling a kiddy robot a manlet
Get the fuck out of here.
>>316533767
Fuck off, parrot. You don't even know what that implies.
>>316531874
Smash, Mario Maker, any future FF games on 3DS + NX, upcoming DQ games maybe
What are they going to say Cloud's origin is in Mario Maker / Smash's trophy?
>>316535404
FF7 but no mention of the system, they do that with Sonic characters all the time.
It might also say FF Explorers as a recent appearance
>>316531874
I didn't know I wanted it.
>>316535538Tifa outfit for Zelda
>>316535594
Holy shit.
>>316535007
I only want characters that I've never seen before, whose movesets are unique and unexpected.
Like, every so often I see a thread where people post movesets for characters they want and all I can think is "hmm, that would be interesting to play as."
But then I look at the roster all I can think is "how are random basement dwellers more creative than the guys who made the series?"
>dat stage
>dem summons
>>316535283
See
>>316534298
How much does SE pay you?
>>316535874
"The victim of circumstance?" You know that applies to virtually every JRPG protagonist, right? Otherwise the adventure is over pretty fast.
Also, this is the first I've heard about reddit loving Final Fantasy. Seems to me you're full of shit and hitching yourself to the nearest bandwagon, or trying to get /v/ behind you by spreading false rumors. Either way, fuck off dramaqueen.
>>316536147
You're the only one here getting over emotional and making a scene with walls of vitriol text.
>>316536526
Sorry for offering thought-out logic against stupid, reactionary quips.
>>316535752
>Characters that I've never seen before
So you want literally whos. Indie shits are right up your alley.
You must not be in the same board. Most autists here want as loyal of movesets as possible and get assmad over something not being a reference. Everything I've seen from ballot threads are trash and most everything else is shoved reference after reference.
>>316527226
No.
>>316535759
>Bahamut Zero's Tera Flare slowly approaching the platform everyone is fighting on.
>>316536742
As opposed to Sakurai who just throws random moves together so it vaguely makes sense for the character?
Also, most ballot hopefuls and indie characters would be way more interesting than most of the characters that we got in sm4sh.
>>316522975
the only "copy pasted" animation is that up tilt and the up b move, and while Omnislash plays like Great Aether, it's actually closer to the games than ANY of the GA clones
I mean, might as well complain that Sonic and Mario have copy pasted neutral As. Or certain characters with similar Up and down tilts. Or down smashes. etc.
>>316537142
>it vaguely makes sense for a character who uses sword moves to perform sword moves that actually look similar in his game for a change
>>316520548
Tbh tifa should have got in instead of emo fucboi
>>316517814
>Auron
Even less reason to include him than Cloud.
>>316533767
>>316534298
>I don't go to reddit I just happen to know a lot about them really guys
What's sad is that people here are still dumb enough to keep taking your bait.
>>316531874
What do amiibos do anyway? I've never understood them. Are they just portable memory cards etc.
>>316540657
Different shit depending on the game.
>>316524375
>Ryu's bad!
no he's not
>w-well then they will nerf him and he will be bad!
why are there so many little bitches on /v/
6 swordsmen
>>316516840
Adding a Final Fantasy character was the equivalent of all the fake character unlocks for Melee back in the day.
>>316540768
Such as?
>>316541853
Any fanbase with a high concentration of autism is prone to whining about the most banal shit imagineable, and the Smash fanbase has one of the highest concentrations known to mankind.
