Bethesda has earned almost one BILLION dollars already with Fallout 4. One BILLION, not million. They are now literally richer than entire countries.
Let that sink in for a bit.
You mean like the US? Which is $18 trillion in debt?
revenue is not profit you dumb fuck
>shipped
Ayy
It's amazing that with enough marketing and publicity you can sell just about anything.
>>316505504
game probably cost 200 mil to make at most
>>316505504
There's no way this game was more expensive to make than MGSV, and its already made double more than that
>>316505103
>they are now literally richer than entire countries
this is either bait or OP is genuinely a retard
>>316505601
Doesn't include digital. So it's more liek 26m. They're at least at 1.5bn with digital included.
>>316505103
>shipped
>revenue
Now tell me how much they spent on making and marketing the game.
>>316505645
Soon game companys will not even make a game. They'll just have a marketing departement and sell pre orders.
>>316505658
I doubt even that.
Including marketing it's probably somewhere between $60 and $80 million.
>>316505658
Considering how much they reused from Skyrim, probably even less than that.
>>316505716
Or just your average American.
>>316505730
shipping of digital copies?
>>316505601
These games make the largest bulk of their money from selling to retailers who pay for the shipment of the games. It's then the retailers that make the money on the sale of the games in their stores
>>316505103
>12mil shipped
>only 1.5mil sold on PC
>biggest game of the year sells the least on the supposed strongest platform once again
Where were you when PC gaming died again?
>>316505849
Of course. Gog needs to stock up. Steam needs to stock up. Those two alone should account for 10m.
>They are now literally richer than entire countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
they're richer than Tonga if they can pull in that much revenue every year
>>316505751
>Shipped
>not revenue for publishes
Like they give a fuck what stores are gonna do with them copies, they've sold them already
>>316506081
Xbox one plus nuka cola seems rather fine
>>316505967
>Gives most of his money to charity
Source on that bullshit.
>>316505949
PC gamers know better than to pay for a dog turd
Just think, if Bethesda had spent some of those millions of profit on a new/better engine and some decent writers it would have been a great game instead of just a mediocre one.
But gotta keep the shareholders happy, every dollar saved is a dollar earned and all that
>shipped
>>316505980
GDP does not mean what you think it means.
>>316505814
To be fair, they did this first in Fallout 3. If anything, Skyrim reused it.
>>316505658
>200 mill
implying that deleting lines of code and paying voice actors cost that much
Why do people just blindly preorder BS like this?
Blows my mind.
>>316506170
>>Gives most of his money to charity
>Source on that bullshit.
Maybe you should be requesting source on the 40 billion bullshit instead of his charity work
Why are people so mad? I'm having fun. Then again, I did pirate the game. Not sure if I'd be mad had I paid for it.
>>316505949
>Only sold 1.5mil physical copies on PC
>platform where Digital sales dominate
Every fucking time.
things making a billion dollars now adays is not that impressive due to inflation, I'm not sure why it surprises people when things keep making more money since that's how our currency works
>>316506402
Depends on your definition of blindly. Marketing BS working is nothing even remotely new. The end product being A LOT worse than the ads is nothing remotely new. People just want that. So it's not really "blindly".
Ultimately that's good. Bethesda will continue to invest in the franchise because it won't be a dead-end, and maybe Todd the Rod will finance Obsidian to make a game for the five of us who'd like it.
>>316506589
Nope.
>>316505103
>They are now literally richer than entire countries.
What country is running around with <$1B GDP?
>>316505967
>Todd having more net worth than Gabe
nice bait faggot
>>316505949
>muh saels!
Here we go
>>316505103
How? No seriously, fucking christ.
WEST
IS
DEAD
>>316505103
ur retarded my man
>>316506589
That's not how it works
The hats truth is that F4 isn't as good as it should be after 7 fucking years and as big a studio as bethesda
And all this proves is that they can literally shit out crap year after year and people will buy it
None of that money is going to invest in the quality of Bethshit's next game.
>>316506551
A billion dollars is an extremely respectable amount of cash even with inflation.
>>316506170
$40 billion would make Todd the 3rd richest man in the world, none of the chart is accurate other than Notch and Gaben. maybe Kojima
>>316505754
Soon? CIG...
>>316506782
>>316506563
To me, a lot of people just preordered because everyone else was preordering it. It's the "I have to have it because everyone else has it" mentality. They don't bother waiting to see how the game actually turns out before actually buying it, and they never seem to learn either.
>>316506751
>What country is running around with <$1B GDP?
There's a fair few
>>316505103
>shipped
Everytime, fucking vidya journalism.
Wonder how much the generic staff is actually proud of their product. Or if it's only a product, with very little emotion behind it. Not the Indian code-monkeys, but the design, editing and all the "creative"-process-finishing staff.
>>316507118
I don't get how you can even call yourself a real country if you aren't netting at least $50B or so.
>reuse fallout 3 engine/textures
>make 1 billion dolars of retards fanboys who buy shit games
>>316505982
No they didn't, you have no idea how redistribution work you moron.
There's a reason why stores would rather sell used games instead of new ones.
#JUSTICEFORHUMANHEAD
>>316505103
>shipped
Besides, of all the copies that were even bought, how many sold on hype? Christ, FO4 is like Diablo 3.
>>316506081
I still haven't seen these at the Target I work at.
>>316505103
>how do i economics?
Are you stupid?
>>316506841
>Whole thread about sales and $$$
>oh wow ! you mentioned sales what a fucking neogaffer
Autism
>>316507202
roughly half the world's countries are under $50 billion
example: Costa Rica is a country that has exactly $50 billion GDP
This is pretty big but Asscreed move these kind of numbers, or at least used to not long ago. And for a few years, each year, consecutively.
Still, if there was any doubt Fallout or Bethesda weren't top dogs in their fields, it's probably erased now.
>>316506081
eBay is a total shithole compared to 10 years ago. Now it's just people trying to catch someone dumb enough to bid on their over-priced shit. You used to be able to buy things at reasonable prices. Now the majority of sellers are just greedy assholes
>>316507419
>>316507419
Sounds like anything under Costa Rica isn't a real country and should just get annexed by its neighbours then.
>>316507624
So...North Korea gets annexed by South Korea?
>>316505949
>Le epic shipped = sold meymey
dummed down shit, a step backward, made for the kids that have no business playing it in the first place, the ugh... call of duty crowd
poor story, no depth, no soul, this is what happens when people prioritize a quick buck over improving the franchise, i have to say, i will NOT preorder any bethesda games in the future
>>316507812
and Japan should annex the both of them when it gets its military back on track.
>>316505103
Why does the west have such shit taste?
>>316505103
God bless capitalism
>>316508034
Because the rest of the world set the precedent.
>>316505658
>>316505703
Even if that was the case you're retarded if you think 100% of the revenue goes straight to Bethesda's pockets.
>>316505103
So let me get this straight...Ass Creed S sold...less than 1mil, meanwhile FO4 shipped 12m and will likely sell most of those.
Doesn't this basically mean the stores determine how many copies something can sell even before it hits shelves? I mean say Bestbuy orders 2 million FO4 copies but only orders 150k ACS copies...they've pretty much determined that FO4 will sell more.
>>316506081
Why is it blue?
>>316508289
BB gets a cut of every game they sell so its in their interest to get shit people want.
>>316508369
Radioactive things are blue. Remember in the original Fallout 3 how the radioactive ground in some places was blue? LOL ONLY US EPBIMN NERDS KNOW
>>316508034
>this much of a weeb
Japan sees plenty of shovelware, anon.
>>316505103
Finally got to play it today and I must say it's complete garbage.
This is blowing my mind people are playing this pile of unplayable shit. And I mean literally unplayable as there is input delay on every of your actions.
Gamers are retarded.
>spend 500 million in marketing
>make over 750 million with the game
Hmm that's still 250 million, a lot for a shit game like Fallout 4
>>316508289
Obviously it doesn't do them any good to have a lot of bought copies sitting around doing nothing either. They need to make money too, so they won't deliberately understock games either.
>>316508289
There is such a thing as a minimum that stores have to take of something. Don't know if this applies for vidya.
>Mediocre, critically divisive game that removes almost everything that first established brand loyalty makes a billion dollars
Based capitalism. I can't wait until Fallout 5 is just a rail shooter and makes even more money.
>>316508635
I honestly don't understand how anyone buys a bethesda game at launch. They're literally templates that they count on their playerbase to fix for them and they're making hand over fist.
Jesus, it hurt typing that.
>>316505103
Good. They deserve it.
>>316508518
But how do they know what to order in such proportions? Like how did they know people didn't want Ass Creed this year?
What if say Activision bought out Bestbuy and then always stocked a huge amount of their franchises as opposed to everyone else's? Wouldn't they sell a bit more copies than they would otherwise? Since some dudebro walking in wanting Asscreed might be swayed if they're sold out to just buy the "hot new thing" and grab a copy of Destiny's latest expansion
>>316508635
>Finally got to play it today
Did you buy it?
>>316508748
>There is such a thing as a minimum that stores have to take of something. Don't know if this applies for vidya.
I doubt Bestbuy ordered any copies of Ar nosurge: My Pretty Machinery-Obsessed Waifu Simulator
>>316508693
>they won't deliberately understock games either.
There's been plenty of times I've gone to a store like that just browsing and they didn't have any newly released title I'd buy. They are understocking Japanese games.
>>316508891
They probably base it on preorder numbers and previous sales of a series. A game store only selling games from one publisher wouldn't make that much revenue, people seem to have a pretty good idea of what new games they want to buy when it comes to games considering how much they cost.
>>316505754
>soon
That already happens. No, I'm not joking.
Because mongrels like this exist.
>>316506081
>Bethesda only sent 12-24 bottles to each store
>knew ahead of time the insane number of buyers there would be, judging by pre-orders, etc
>somehow didn't expect the Nuka-Cola fiasco to happen
And they're not even going to restock them. Literally what
>>316508937
Irrelevant.
>>316509112
They'll only stock the games they know are guaranteed to sell, they're not trying to affect sales by having less copies than they know they would sell otherwise.
>>316508034
Japs love Bethesda games tbqh
>>316509179
>A game store only selling games from one publisher wouldn't make that much revenue
I'm not saying they'd only sell games from one pub. That's simplifying and would destroy their capacity to have people go into their store for vidya. I said they'd intentionally gimp those titles while slightly overstocking titles of the pub that owns them
>>316507598
It's great though. Their user base has fallen apart. I get things cheaper on eBay than anywhere else by sniping in the last 5 seconds because everybody is too cheap/afraid to go all in with their max bid.
>>316508937
Why does that matter?
>>316509404
How much do they sell? 200k? lulz
>>316508682
>spend 500 million in marketing
I don't know if you realize how retarded your post is.
PROTIP:its really fucking retarded
Revenue =/= profit, you fucking retard.
>>316508937
Not that guy but I didn't buy it and there is nothing you can do about it Todd.
>>316505103
>1 billion dollars
>for this
>>316505103
Math time /v/
What's $750m in sales - $600m marketing budget?
Extra credit: What's the average operating upkeep for Bethesda, including facilities, personell and executive salary bonuses?
>Sold twice more than TW3 in 1 fucking day
lel
I wonder how buttdestroyed the CDcuks must be feeling now.
>a-arigatou, senpai-tachi
>>316509803
>character model grows
How is this even possible to compute anything so horribly shitty?
>>316509643
Might as well be because they spent $0 on production
>>316509373
That didn't used to be how it was. Big box stores would stock Japanese games that weren't guaranteed to sell all the time. Ogre Battle 64, Grandia, Okage: Shadow King. I saw all these titles in big box electronics stores. Now unless it's Gamestop, I'm lucky to see the latest FF13 abortion and most of the rest is bald men with guns.
>>316509803
FOR WHAT PURPOSE!?
>$750M in revenue
Am I supposed to be mad here? Fallout 4 isn't good, but fanboys and children will eat it up and keep sucking Bethesda's 4-inch dick. GTA5 made $1 billion in three days and it's a good game. They're both inferior to their GOATs, but Fallout 4 had what, six years to top New Vegas? That's disappointment right there. At least I'll be drunk while they announce this subpar game GOTY2015 like they did with Dragon Age: Inquisition
>>316509898
>I don't know what revenue means
>>316509440
Maybe, but it would be more likely that a publisher would pay a store to have a promotion of their games than to deliberately understock other titles. It accomplishes the same thing and you're not pissing off any other publishers that you rely on for revenue.
>>316510039
Seems like more of a reflection of gaming in general, really. The market for games produced in the west has outstripped the market for Japanese games in the west that aren't big franchises already.
>>316509803
GOTY CONFIRMED
BETHESDA DOES IT AGAIN
>>316509981
As a programm0r it makes perfect sense to me. They did it to avoid clipping as a character gets into the suit. Otherwise you'd have such a tiny humanoid step into the suit's chest rather than its head. There's simply no better way to do it without custom modelling the armor for every body type in the game. They figured in most cases people would be slightly smaller or slightly larger and no one would notice the shrinking or growing effect.
>>316510249
GTA V is better than SA and VC.
>>316509898
Idiot.
>>316507001
How can he be the third richest man in the world if he donates almost all of his money to charity?
Think before you post you dumbfuck.
>>316510408
Hahaha no
>>316510313
>>316510476
Salt
Your game is shit and barely net the company $14 kek
Normies gonna norm. Undertale is still GOTY
>>316509803
>character model grows before entering the armor
>turns into a headless Somali after entering
>>316509901
It's the same people, idiot. The ones vocal enough for you to have noticed them are the same people. You are not talking about people that play these games, but shitposters that talk about it.
>>316510348
But it's an NPC. If it doesn't fit as is, either make it so it would from the start, fitting suit or character model, or just don't do this. It's really, really bad.
>>316509898
>$600m marketing budget?
epic
>>316510745
>Bethesda doesnt spend shitloads on marketing
Todd's harem CAN'T be THIS delusional
It's probably a lot higher than 600m
>>316510676
It was demanded from on high that it be possible. The lower downs just had to make it work and this was the best solution they could come up with without expending a huge amount of time and effort on one tiny feature of the game.
>>316509803
That ending is some nightmare fuel jesus christ
>>316505949
Why are retards like yourself allowed on the internet. Fucking hell.
>>316511083
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the lowest monkeys. But it's not just a "tiny feature". Things like that document the attitude toward the whole product.
>>316507927
It'll be a while, they've only folded their tanks a couple of hundred times.
>>316511318
>attitude toward the whole product
"let's market something that used to be good when somebody else did it to coddlefield babbies and make shitloads of dosh?"
>pirate Fallout 4
>start on survivalist difficulty
>shit male voice actor
>literally no choice when it comes to dialog options
>you can tell the minuteman nigger to fuck off and he'll still like you for some reason
>repairing weapons is cut
>power armor is now a useless short term thing
>guns have no weight, are underpowered
>enemies are literally bullet sponges and take multiple point blank shots to the head
>same old retarded physics shit
>hardcoded keys for interaction
>knock difficulty down to normal, enemies are now babies who do fuck all damage against me
Fuck Bethesda. Fuck Bethesda in their shitty lying fucking cunts. Everything about this game is broken, it's literally Skyrim with guns.
>>316511716
>>power armor is now a useless short term thing
How did they manage this? It's an armor, how can they not just let you use it forever once you find it?
>>316505814
>Eight years later we still have the same fucking shitty lockpicking minigame
WHERE'S MY OBLIVION-STYLE LOCKPICKING, BETHESDA!?
>>316511890
>I liked to click up once then push auto for full lockpicking done in seconds
>>316508369
Because nuka cola quantum is blue
>>316505103
remember when everyone said they weren't preordering?
todd won.
>>316511832
because you find it 15 minutes in
>>316511890
That wasn't ideal either, since your characters skill was completely unimportant and the whole thing was trivialised by getting the Skeleton Key
>>316512073
It's been proved time and time again that gamers never follow through on their threats.
>>316506402
I preordered the game and like it.
Deal with it fag.
>>316512073
People spend their money on the weirdest things. I didn't waste my $60, that's the important part.
>>316511832
They justify it by saying you need a new battery to recharge the suit. Problem being, the battery lasts about 15 minutes at most.
>>316505814
Don't forget the computer hacking is exactly the same as before.
>>316511832
>>316512104
It doesn't even make sense from a lore perspective, since the power source for the armour lasted a hundred years.
Not to mention it didn't "open up" at the rear to let you "step in" the armour, you put it on like a space suit.
But Bethesda had to disregard all this because they wanted to make something look "cool" and "epic".
>>316512073
I did my part, at least, and pirated the game.
>>316505103
Can they use that money to buy a writer who's capable of rational thought?
>>316512357
Don't forget that you don't even need power armour training, you literally just get into the thing and immediately know how to use it.
>>316510945
>Todd's harem CAN'T be THIS delusional
Go on metacritics and read the 10/10 user reviews. The delusion is even worse than you can image.
>>316512219
>>316512301
I wonder what it'd take to stop this phenomenon. The gaming community has no concept of quality control anymore.
Did sales of videogames hit the floor in 2008/2009 during the recession?
>>316512357
>Power source lasts a couple of hundred years
>Fallout 4 takes place a couple hundred years after the nukes
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>316510342
>GOTY
I think not.
Compare this:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4
With this:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-3
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-new-vegas
If you develop a GOTY like they did, you'll make money too. Don't be so jealous.
>>316512746
>Replace power source
>Suit lasts another 100 years
>>316512746
yea but then why does each new source only last 15 minutes hmM????????DF?"AWEFM<NOAWIHJNGFPLAKG{FAETG:"
EGASD
>>316505103
It probably cost at least 500 million with or without the advertising budget, which is usually the same as the development budget
>>316509605
Movies in particular spend hundreds of millions on advertising.
>>316508526
>radioactive things are blue
But that's wrong, anon.
Radiation is colorless, what you see is a Cherenkov Radiation effect, which is completely unharmful and safe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgNwtepP-6M
Nuka Quantum is blue because muh Cherenkov effect, nothing else.
>>316512625
Interesting.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/chart-of-the-day-total-video-games-sales-2009-11
http://venturebeat.com/2010/01/14/that-screeching-sound-u-s-video-game-industry-sales-decline-in-2009/
>>316513048
You could've read to the end of the post and realized it was sarcasm
>>316512486
The player character was in the military before the events of the game. They could probably justify the power armor training part with that.
>>316513235
Video games are way too volatile a market. I wouldn't invest in it. You can never tell what those crazy consumers will do besides buy Cawwadooty.
>>316507319
Or any game that sold well, really, It's all about marketing.
>>316505103
Why are you freaking out over almost one billion come back when they sold one trillion
>>316513398
Meh, I wouldn't. But the industry isn't recession proof, and a lot of these big developers are struggling to contain costs. They NEED the big revenues or the series won't be economical.
>>316510549
Not even all the games he's been involved with combined, with Todd raking in everything, could let him pocket 40 billion total.
>>316510549
Charity is usually done for tax reasons. You better bet he is claiming that shit on tax.
>>316512807
>the latest /vee/ raid is proof that Fallout 4 isn't GOTY
Newsflash kid: No one gives a shit about the user reviews, especially when they're clearly manipulated
>>316510348
No it doesn't, you can just make a custom animation so that some sort of footpads rise up so that it fits the height of the girl
And no one gives a fuck about clipping, you make the girl's model disappear afterward. It's only a real problem if the humanoid is bigger than the armor, not the other way around.
It's just lazyness and that shitty gamebryo engine.
Changing a character's size is the kind of lazy solution I was coming up when I used to write Oblivion mods back in highschool
>b-b-but all the threads on plebbit and /v/ with around 80 posters!
i-i thought this game was a flopped! i-i thought everyone hated it!
>mfw Witcher 3 has barely hit half that in 6~ months
I wonder how long it'll take before kektaku writes an article on how evil 4chan is out to get F4.
>>316505293
>/v/ tries to understand economics
>>316505658
>200 million for a Fallout 3 mod
>>316513529
Hah you'd be impressed by a trillion? Puhleeze come back when they sold infinity copies amirite :^$
>>316508237
>financed by Bethesda
>developped by Bethesda
>published by Bethesda
Yeah they get most of that money
Meanwhile I'm struggling to pay 60 to get fallout 4, pirating it is.
>>316514435
>Changing a character's size is the kind of lazy solution I was coming up when I used to write Oblivion mods back in highschool
And that will be what they do at Bethesda given they hire modders
>>316514435
>you can just make a custom animation so that some sort of footpads rise up so that it fits the height of the girl
Then her foot clips through the armor foot
>They are now literally richer than entire countries.
That's not much of an achievement, considering island nations like Tuvalu and Dominica exist
Did people actually believe the game would be financial failure beyond shitposting?
>>316513398
mfw bought a bunch of stock in ea right after bf3 was announced.bought it at like 19.10 sold it at around 22.00 only made like 600 dollars total but last i checked the stock is like 70 fucking dollarydoos
>>316505103
Besides OP being retarded, this is pretty sad. Seriously disappointed.
>>316505293
>He doesn't understand economics
>>316509803
its like something from fucking Ito
>>316505103
Great, they've almost already paid off the marketing budget.
>>316516234
no? at worst it clips through its lower leg parts but you can just incline her feets. Stop being dumb and/or making ridiculous excuses
I'm so fucking drunk desu
>>316517678
>you can just incline her feets.
So they will clip through the lifts?
>>316509209
>>316518116
Maybe the lifts are also inclined? How dense can you possibly be?
>>316509209
>107 of 347 users found this helpful
meh
