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Was he more of a surprise than snake?
>>316488874
Yeah but not nearly as cool.
Yes. Snake was justifiable in the sense that he had at least been on a couple nintendo consoles at one point or another. Cloud has only ever been in that 3ds rhythm game. That said i was really hoping for RAY 01 from custom robo gc .
Is there any chance we can get Snake too?
Tough call, but I'm going to go with no. Prior to Snake, we didn't even think 3rd-party characters were possible. Suddenly having a codec call at the end of the brawl trailer was fucking mind-blowing.
>>316489274
If he did well in the ballot, hey anything will go.
Medic in Smash.
The buildup of the trailer was awful
Are people really excited for this? Or is it just a meme?
No
>Brawl
>Snake was the first third party announced, later also having Sonic
>Smash 4
>we have now had Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man, Mega Man and Ryu
>>316488874
No because Snake set the precedent for surprises, but he was still probably the only character that could get this reaction out of people at this point.
Yes, for me at least.
I mean, what the hell? I still don't understand it.
>>316488874
Objectively he wasn't. If you actually think he was you are simply wrong.
>>316488874
Snake was on Nintendo Consoles....
Cloud was acctually in the First Final Fantasy to NOT be on a nintendo console...
just thought that was kind of weird
>>316489161
What about kindom hearts on the GBA?
Ssb was better when it wasn't littered with le edgy anime bois
>>316489274
Sure, why not. They're just picking characters at random with no thought to the votes.
>>316489841
His appearance in COM so was short I don't know if it's worth counting.
So many buried characters that deserve a chance to shine again and they shit out a Final Fantasy character that has nothing to do with Nintendo.
>>316489737
It makes sense when you consider Cloud as a rep for FF as a whole.
Even normies know who Cloud is. I was getting texts like crazy at work yesterday from friends because I had to miss the Direct. A normie friend asked what I was getting so many messages about and I casually said "Cloud Strife is in the new Smash" and he said "That dude with the giant sword?"
People know who Cloud is and will talk about him. It's only odd to do it now that the FF7 remake is a timed PS4 exclusive
It surprised me so much, I disconnected my Wii U and am selling it as we speak.
>>316489161
He was in Chain of Memories on the GBA.
This is still very weird though. They're riding the FF7 hype train.
>>316489791
Technically, Snake was bigger, since he was the first third-party.
But fuck it if Cloud didn't hit me about 10 times harder. It really is subjective
>>316488874
Wow another sword player, where the fuck is Phoenix Wright
>>316490134
Forever banished in favor of shitty characters like Mega Man and Ryu. Don't remind me
>>316488874
Snake trumps him in sheer surprise. Anybody who says otherwise iscloudedby hindsight bias and hype, or straight up wasn't there for Snake's reveal.
>>316489695
I wonder the same thing
I personally felt literally nothing, the spark I had for Smash Bros is burned out, I wanted a new game
I saw a few circlejerks with nintyfags being "hyped" yet it was only 4 threads on the catalog
That seemed so fake thb
>>316489695
everything is a fucking "meme"
if youre excited for it, its a meme
if you hate it, its a meme.
>>316489401
Consider the following;
Do we even know Cloud did well in the ballot? I mean... He probably did, but I'm betting Square actually wanted to do Cloud given the whole FF7 Remake thing, and we'll get the ballot winners in December, that probably have a Square Enix character among their ranks.
Given the time it takes to make a character and a stage, they were probably working on him for a while.
>>316488874
He was more of a disappointment than anyone else.
I've literally never heard ANYONE say "cloud for Smash!!!!"
>>316488874
Yesbecause it makes no sense for him to be in Sm4sh, whereas Snake was perfect for Brawl. FFVII has never come out on a Nintendo system and this is just free shilling for the remake coming out, so I bet Square Enix were happy for Sakurai to go ahead with this shit. More money for them to make.
>>316490474
>He never watched Brawl taunts
>>316490297
Let me just say this: I was still surprised by some reveals after Snake. Sonic in Brawl surprised me a bit. Mega Man surprised me. Pac-man surprised me.
Nothing will surprise me after Cloud. They could put in Goku, Superman, and Naruto and I wouldn't bat an eye.
>>316490323
Hell maybe is because it felt like nothing new
I honestly was waiting for them to say he was an Ike alt the whole time
Like been there, done that
I was more excited when Megaman was revealed for the first time.
Cloud just made me go "What? Really? That doesn't make sense." Even though I love FFVII, it's really a bizarre inclusion.
>>316490134
In Project X Zone 2
>>316490585
That's more of a function of your silly expectations then any sort of reality. Cloud isn't that much of a stretch from Snake.
>>316490514
Like for like deal
Cloud for Dragon quest
No, because people we're expecting another third party character to some level. No one thought Cloud would make it in, but no one thought anything outside Nintendo would make it into brawl. Snake being in Brawl opened more doors for the roster than cloud being in sm4sh does, as crazy as that sounds with how big this is.
>>316490693
When snake was included having some history with Nintendo astill felt like a prerequisite. With Cloud it feels like there are no more rules for getting into Smash
>>316488874
Yes, literally nobody saw it coming, people was expecting shovel knight, shantae or king k-roll.
>>316489161
being on nintendo consoles was never a requirement for smash, this was just something that console war autists made up
>Cloud
>Sonic
>Ryu
Holy shit all we need now is Goku and this is just like one of my Newgrounds games
>>316490006
As someone who has never played a FF game in his life, I never knew his name until this announcement. Normies and people like me know him for being a protagonist in FFVII with a giant sword. That's it.
Sad to say but I knew what a chocobo was before I knew who Cloud was.
I'm sad it wasn't Sora, he has multiple games on Nintendo platforms to justify his appearance while Cloud has nothing.
>>316490727
Oh fuck, is Kirby going to be edgy as all fuck when he copies Cloud?
>>316490693
Maybe, but that doesn't change how I feel. I feel like an atheist who was just shown irrefutable proof of God, or the opposite. Basically, someone got in who I NEVER thought was getting in EVER. It shocked me to me core.
>>316490674
Would have been perfect for Sm4sh though and Capcom would haveno objectionssince they'd have 3 reps in the game.
>>316490969
Cloud is the reason I'll be picking Sm4sh back up. Sora would've prompted me to sell the game entirely
>>316490809
Nah, Final Fantasy definitely is more ninty relevant than MGS
I will Cloud was surprising but not exciting at all
Maybe is the oversaturation of anime sword guys
>>316490693
prior to this, cloud was almost a joke entry. You'd see shit like shrek, goku and cloud as options for polls and be like "okay so its one of those polls", whereas snake has a serious following and is arguably a realistic option.
Snake started the "holy shit sakurai has no limits" idea, but cloud was the final step in truly establishing that nothing from video games is off limits if its truly iconic.
>>316491043
>Nah, Final Fantasy definitely is more ninty relevant than MGS
As a whole, but the series has largely given Nintendo the finger since FF7. You could almost blame Cloud for why Nintendo has fallen behind Sony.
>>316490474
>like a thousand Brawl mods adding him
>made priority in both flash games running around
Even if you're too underage to remember FF7 you can just look at all the unofficial attempt to put him in.
>>316488874
No.
After Snake, people became open to the idea of any 3rd party character imaginable.
>>316488874
Of course he was. At least Snake has been on a Nintendo console at one point.
Who's next? Thrall from the WarCraft universe? Why not "Diving Tub Guy" from the board game Mouse Trap?
>>316490809
Until Snake was included being a Nintendo IP felt like a prerequisite. Even if you somehow expected third parties Solid Snake was incredibly out of left field not just because of his poor history but also because he was from an adult series.
Does this mean FF7R is coming to the NX?
>>316490902
every girl in my normie gamer friend group knows who cloud is, and most guys do. FF7 is comparable to OoT in terms of normie recognition i'd say.
>>316491147
Goku.
/v/ who did you actually vote for
I voted forBo Jackson from Tecmo Bowl because none of the front-runners for the DLC interested meif I had even thought of Cloud I would've voted for him though
>>316491043
>Final Fantasy definitely is more ninty relevant than MGS
Agreed, but a question everyone knows the answer to: Is Cloud relevant to Nintendo?
That's why people got triggered over this reveal.
Snake still tops it but Cloud comes very very close.
As a Final Fantasy fag im excited. However im more excited at watching Ridle, Krool, and Goomba with hat fags upset yet again.
>>316490696
this is the weird thing
/v/ was going crazy at how with Cloud in Smash, it must mean that Square doesn't hate Nintendo anymore, but Bravely Default, 2 Dragon Quest games and Final Fantasy Explorers were all in the direct
I think Square was the only real third party dev in that direct that's memorable anyway
No, the trailer was shit.
The MegaMan reveal was better.
>>316491249
For me, it wasSimon Belmont, Phoenix Wright and Knuckles. Voted in that order.
>>316491257
it's a weird venn diagram ass thing
>FF is relevant to Nintendo
>Cloud is the most relevant face of FF (unless you want some shit like lightning)
>Also has "retro game" history, which most of the third party characters are modeled after
its some fucked up logic, but it IS logical in a way
>>316491080
Virtually nobody ever suggested Snake prior to him being announced for Brawl. Maybe 1 or 2 random dickheads had notions because Twin Snakes existed, but when you add the rule shattering 3rd party announcement with it being a character nobody would have ever seriously anticipated it trumps Cloud's reveal of just being the latter.
Cloud has even less history, it's true. But in context Snake's reveal broke more rules than Cloud's did (cementing the fact that Nintendo history really doesn't matter).
![95445d4d7fd6ff4e5c55a9dcf18fd731_400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qSv9aEg.jpg "95445d4d7fd6ff4e5c55a9dcf18fd731_400[1].jpg")
Now we just wait on that Goku DLC.
>>316491404good taste anon
>>316491401
The reactions were pretty funny.
>>316491483
sorry, I wasn't actually the guy you responded to earlier. got my conversations mixed up; snake was definitely more earth-shattering than cloud, but not by a lot.
>Used to make joke predictions since Brawl with "It's gonna be Cloud" and everyone knew it was just fuckign around
>2015
>he is LITERALLY in
Also, Snake was bigger. Cloud just made me question Sakurais way of choosing characters.
What are the criterias now? Are there any left?
>>316491483
Metal Gear was a nothing franchise before MGS1. Snake made his bones on the Playstation. To me there's not much different between Snake and Cloud except
1. Cloud comes from a bigger franchise and is more iconic
2. Snake got in the game first
which both indicate Snake was a bigger shock when he was announced
>>316490985
He's probably going to get his hair and a miniature version of his sword, so no unless you want to make a joke about edged swords.
>>316491756
Meme magic.
>What if Link was a gi-aw shit.
>>316491756
Iconic video game characters, I guess. Cloud is more of a franchise rep than a character rep at this point
>>316491249Sami from the Advance Wars series, she could make a decent snake.
>>316491854
I feel they should at least make his eyebrows pointed downwards
>>316491756
It's pretty much advertisements and banking on H Y P E at this point.
>>316491929
M A S T E R C H I E F
>>316491892
Linkle alt costume when?
>>316491492
Goku needs to stay as far as fuck away from this game as possible.
I don't want some steroid muscle head that will be a cross between Ryu and Sonic only cartoonier on my smash Roster.
Keep that dumb shit away.
okay so there's clearly some grand degree of effort into the advent children alternate
i wager it's gonna be a full alternate set akin to WarioWare/Classic Wario
now im hoping if Snake returns, he gets a sampling of new sneaking suits + tuxedo
Just saying, I wouldve preferred any other Final Fantasy rep over Cloud.
Like Zidane, or Tidus.Or Gabranth
>>316491756
judging from his moveset in the trailer. he looks like he was probably suppose to be chrom.
but they were probably given the opportunity to put in a final fantasy character so they made him into cloud instead.
I like how Smash is getting all the kid's fantasy characters, if this happened in the 00s it would be hard to believe.
inb4 we eventually get Goku
>Brawl was the first appearance of the Gekkos from MGS4
So what is this going to spoil for the FF7 remake?
>>316492228
>He's serious
>>316492259
>Tidus
>>316491239
Noku.
Tidus should come next!
>not lightning
shit choice desu
>>316492352
FFX was my first FF and I'd still prefer Cloud over Teedus
>>316491771
Best MEtal Gear was Twin Snake.
>>316489970
Sorry your shit character wasn't chosen.
>>316492128
mfw a lot of people now want this to happen unironically
the Halo music, environments, backdrops, (covenant) weapons and spartan abilities could craft the Halo series' smash appearance perfectly
theyre both fun campy multiplayer games at heart and are titans of local multiplayer (well prior to Halo 5)
>>316492352
That couldve been the perfect taunt too.
>>316492315
Tifa will have a trophy and it will spoil that they actually made her tits bigger for the remake.
As far it goes, the only logic left into what makes it into Smash anymore is that they be video game characters and even I'm not sure if that'll hold.
>>316492403
Gotta ride that remake train.
>>316492539
the easiest Metal Gear was Twin Snakes
>>316492128
in another universe where Halo DS worked out, Mister Chef is in smash
>>316490851
Name one Smash character that hasn't been on a Nintendo console in some shape or form?
>>316489970
Let me guess, are you a Shantei shill or a King K. Rool shill?
Also I think the vote was meant more for ideas and to gauge the popularity of certain characters, not as a vote where the person who gets the most votes wins, it was more like an electoral college vote if anything.
Less surprising as a third party in one sense that snake was THE first third party character, more surprising in the sense that Cloud has not been on a Nintendo platform once...EVER.FF7 HD confirmed for Wii U when?
>>316492517
I like Tidus just because of how much of a dork he is. He's like Shinji if he was dressed like some kind of neo 80s kid.
>>316492647
Those sentences aren't mutually exclusive.
>>316492610
Just wait, Once everybody thinks there will be no more dlc characters, Goku will show up
>>316490902
You come to /v/ and you somehow never picked up who Cloud is even if you weren't looking? Impressive.
>>316488874
Cloud isn't even the most mind-blowing Square character they could have added.
>>316492717
>Implying Cloud hasn't been on Nintendo consoles
Em Rhythm games and Kingdom hearts on the GBA count man
>>316489161
muh nigga, ray01 is the only one i voted for
>>316492819
It at least would have make goku fags shut up since its basically the same design.
>>316492819
I agree JC Denton would have been more mind-blowing.
>>316492763
>Cloud has not been on a Nintendo platform once...EVER.
Chain of Memories on GBA and Theatrhythm. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the FF7 remake makes it to NX and this is just an absurdly early cameo.
>>316492717
Cloud has been on a nintendo console, that's not the weird part. The weird part is that the trailer specifically says Smash x FFVII
>>316492937
>JC DENTON
>IN DA FRESH
Is anyone else annoyed at how boring cloud looks to play? Another fucking sword user.
His up special is "EETHER!" Down special is yet another fucking counter which now half of the roster has. Final Smash is "GREAT EEETHER!" Only unique thing he has going for him is the little green gust of air he shoots
>>316492717
Cloud. :^)
>>316488874
At least Snake as in a couple Nintendo games prior to Brawl
Metal Gear (NES)
Snake's Revenge (NES)
Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel (GBC)
Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes (GCN)
DreamMix TV World Fighters (GCN)
Evolution Skateboarding (GCN)
Snake being in Brawl wasn't so much of a long shot than Cloud so I thought he was way more surprising. IIRC Cloud is only in 3 Nintendo Games:
KH: CoM (GBA)
And the two Theaterhythm on 3DS
>people are seriously saying that one of the last couple of believable contenders for a 3rd party spot was the bigger surprise because "he wasn't on Nintendo systems much" than motherfucking Solid Snake who wasn't just the first 3rd party rep in a Smash game but also being advertised hard as the protagonist of the PS3's killer app at the time both games were in production and would never in anyone's wildest dreams be considered as an SSB character by anyone
I want faggots who weren't old enough to read in 2007 to leave.
Shoulda been Chocobo from the Mystery Dungeon games, that got a few games and a minigame spinoff on Nintendo systems
![dissidia_artwork_kuja[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QaIf4FC.png "dissidia_artwork_kuja[1].png")
>>316492819
Oh you mean Kuja?
Good taste anon.
>>316493071
I exclusively play anime swordsmen and he looks alright
>>316490595
>Ike has limit breaks
Cloud is confirm'd Ike clone.
>>316488874
He was a surprise, but Snake was literally out of left field because at that time we'd never thought that a 3rd party would ever be in Smash Bros.
>>316491624
yeah I love watching people react to stuff on youtube too because I don't know how to react by myself :) learned some good ones from this, I'll be sure to use them the next time something like this happens!
>>316490851
It was a requirement in brawl. Sakurai specifically made a few rules up in the wake of snakes reveal. He said they had to appear on a nintendo system, and they had to originate in a video game (ie no fucking anime shitters). There might have been one or two more but that's all I remember.
>>316493220
Fuck off.
>>316493071
Did you even pay attention to the limit break stuff?
>>316492352
>One of Tidus' taunts is HA HA HA HA HA
I wouldn't even be mad.At least Tidus has that going for him, the only possible plus to Lightning in Smash is the prospect of porn of her being fucked by Wario.
>>316492552
>>316492726
I didn't vote, but it's cute you think it matters.
>>316488874
Maybe, but Mega Man was far more surprise than Snake or Cloud. That final smash reveal just made the internet explode
People actually played and enjoyed FF7 unironically? Why? Legend of Dragoon was the superior PS1 RPG.
>>316492302
>he looks like he was probably suppose to be chrom.
How? I don't remember Chorm learning Blade Beam or Climhazzard.
>>316493350
Oh yay, it's a more limited version of monado X KO punch.
>>316493458
>Maybe, but Mega Man was far more surprise than Snake or Cloud.
No he wasn't you dumb retarded faggot idiot. He was by far the most requested character in Brawl besides Sonic. He was the most obvious choice of all.
>>316493458
How the fuck was Mega Man surprising?
>>316490465
>Hey, Nintendo, mind helping us promote our remake of a game that was never in your consoles to further promote the PS4?
Shit's fucking weird.
But honestly though, Sony doesn't have anything else as iconic except maybe Crash and that guy is in Activision hell. Parappa was kind of popular too, but not as popular and the rest were pretty great, but I assume those didn't spread like fire much. Cloud is pretty much Square Enix's Snake, if that even makes sense.
>>316493263
Sakurai is a man who goes back on his word all the time, he really wants to create a Toy Box of characters like in the orgininal given his actions.
>>316492259
Even Squall?
>>316493578
>>316493551
>he wasn't on /v/ when Mega Man was shown
90% sure FF7R is coming to the NX eventually.
>>316493071
>Down special is yet another fucking counter
This is why I hate anti-swordfags they're just so unbelievably stupid.
>>316493583
>Promote our remake for FF7
>In exchange you get money from everyone that will buy your DLC
>and several people will probably buy the game just for this character
>and your game and console will get more publicity because of this
It seems like a fair deal on both ends. And as mentioned earlier in the thread Cloud is easily the best choice as the definitive FF rep.
>>316488874
>>316489161
If you think Cloud was more of a surprise than Snake you are underage or retarded.
Everyone has been talking about Cloud in smash since Melee, and he's been in several fighting games before.
Snake is not only COMPLETELY out of place in a Nintendo setting, but he was also the FIRST 3rd party character to be revealed - most people didn't think Smash would ever have non-Nintendo characters, maybe except those with strong Nintendo ties like Megaman.
NO ONE saw Snake coming even in their wildest dreams.
>>316493724
People were happy about it, not fucking surprised.
>>316493724
>People being excited is the same as being surprised
Megafags were desperate for any good news. Doesn't make it surprising
>>316490863
It already feels like one though since the game's like, a mega expansion on Brawl, minus some songs here and there and some new ones there.Still pissed off about no Mona Pizza.Speaking of which, holy shit, I died laughing at the scene where Cloud just fucking kicks Wario in the gut and steals his bike away.
>>316493724
It wasn't surprising.
Really fucking cool, yeah, but also obvious and thus not surprising.
>>316488874
When it comes down to it, yes.
Even if you choose to ignore the fact that Snake had Twin Snakes and Metal Gear had its history with Nintendo, Kojima was very vocal about wanting Snake in Smash as early as Melee development. While it was definitely a huge surprise, the friendship between Sakurai and Kojima made it less of a surprise than Cloud.
No one would have EVER justifiably thought Cloud would be in a Smash game.
>>316493842
That's just it. Snake was only surprising because he came first
the fact that nobody saw Cloud coming even after the snake reveal shows how unexpected he was.
>>316493583
>>316493823
You'd be retarded to think the FF7 remake won't be on NX after this.
>>316488874
>Nintendo is literally promoting a ps4 game
laffing desu
>>316493151
I really think a lot of the people who say Snake wasn't more surprising either weren't there or else weren't even old enough to understand what had happened when he was revealed. I've a very hard time believing any right minded person who was there for Snake's reveal thinks this measures up.
>>316492819
GOOD MORNING CHRONO
He's about as surprising as sonic or megaman.
>>316494004
I still think FF7R will get on the NX because of thisI'll still get the PS4 version though
>>316493448
>I'm mad cause they don't pay attention to the votes
>I didn't vote
Your autism is cute.
>>316493804
Does anybody even use their counter anymore?
everytime i play as anime sword man i completely forget i have a counter.
>>316493071
At no point in the trailer did it show cloud using a counter move.
>>316493823
>Cloud is easily the best choice as the definitive FF rep.
Thats not Zidane or Lord Gabranth.
>>316494251
>Thats not Zidane or Lord Gabranth.
>>316492726
>it was more like an electoral college vote if anything.
If anything it's more like a ballot access petition where you have to get a minimum amount of signatures to be allowed onto the ballot.
Or in this case, get enough votes to be considered for DLC.
>>316490323
There was like 40 threads in the fucking catalog after the reveal, and actually go outside 4chan and check other communities, they are all hyped as fuck.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and I'll assume you are just pretending to be retarded for some reason.
>>316493959
Id be surprised if the next nintendo console was finally on par with last gens consoles.
>>316494115
Probably Ike and Shulk mains, since they're they only counters worth a damn.
>>316493958
Snake wasn't only surprising because he was the first third party (which was a huge surprise in itself). People were often suggesting third parties like Sonic and even Cloud. Virtually nobody even thought of Solid Snake that's how left field he was. It's not just that Snake was a third party and heavily associated with Playstation but also the tone and maturity of his games.
>>316488874
Seeing this really makes me want a Capcom Vs. Square Enix fighting game.
>>316493458
>Mega Man more surprising
There were people denying Brawl's roster because Mega Man wasn't in it, he was that expected.
>>316488874
The thing about snake is that 3rd parties were not a thing back then and specially Snake, even if he was in the GC or had games for XBOX as well as the Game boy it still felt he was a SONY character despite being Konami.
Like, if anything, I assure you if Sonic would've been revealed instead of Snake back then in that trailer the shitstorm would not have been that big.
no
snake was the first third party
>>316494626
Yes, this is how you Curoudo
So like when Cloud puts on his AC alt, will his Final Smash turn into Omnislash V5?
>>316490006
stop using the marketing phrase "time exclusive" thanks
that's not a real term and makes zero fucking sense
no one calls the new Tomb Raider a "timed Xbone exclusive" even though it's the same thing.
or calling Dissidia Arcade a "timed exclusive"
no retard, it's a multiplat with one port being delayed
>>316492403
>yfw Lightning is a pallette swap in Sm4sh
>picking a third party character whose only presence on Nintendo consoles was in franchise spinoffs
Man, here I am spending votes on Nintendo characters when I could've just been voting for fucking anything.
>>316494463
Little Mac's isn't bad, unless you're in mid-air and you go off the ledge.
>>316493724
People spammed threads about Captain Falcon too. Being hyped doesn't mean it's a surprise.
>>316493842
>Everyone has been talking about Cloud in smash since Melee, and he's been in several fighting games before.
And no one ever thought it would happen. It was a joke.
This is like seeing Hell actually freeze over.
>>316490809
If you want to go there, Cloud definitely DOES have history with Nintendo, or his game of origin does. Square got fed up with Ninty's practices back in the day and shifted development to Sony's machine exclusively out of spite. Cloud getting in fucking Smash Bros. is kind of a final nail in the coffin that those days are long past.
It'd be pretty heartwarming if they weren't just a bunch of corporations. I like the things Squeenix has been doing recently, at any rate.
>>316493220
That's pretty autistic
>>316494948
>And no one ever thought it would happen. It was a joke.
>no one ever thought it would happen after Snake, Mega Man, Sonic, Pac-Man and Ryu
Retard
>>316494948
>This is like seeing Hell actually freeze over.
This is like Hell freezing over again 9 years after Hell froze over.
Now that Cloud and Ryu are in, what is the most unexpected famous/iconic character you can think of for Smash?
>Dissidia on WII U
>Never ever
>FF VII Remake on WII U
>Never ever
>FF XV on WII U
>Never ever
I am sorry whats the point of this faggot in Smash again ?
>>316494004
>Nintendo is literally promoting MGS4, a PS3 game
I think Cloud was more of a surprise to me because I was a lot younger with Snake was revealed and I always thought of the possibilities of what new characters could be in Smash. Fast forward to the present where I'm older and skeptical about who could possibly make it on roaster, seeing Cloud get put in Smash Bros is like a hallucination.
>>316493724
>hype is the same thing as surprise
Mega Man's always been a Nintendo-centric franchise, most people should've expected him at some point.
>>316493842
>NO ONE saw Snake coming even in their wildest dreams.
No one saw Cloud coming either. If I had told /v/ as late as yesterday morning, you'd have called me a retard. No one would have believed me.
>>316494728
Make 'em fuck
>>316495151
Crash
Sora
Mickey Mouse
>>316495153
>FF VII Remake on WII U
>Never ever
You don't know that.
>>316495151
Dragonborn
Nathan Drake
Booker DeWitt
Hopefully one of those get it
>>316495151
G-goku?
>>316495269
NX will be out by then. It's not coming to wii u
>>316495151
No one. Cloud was fucking it.
>Ryu is the face of fighting games
>Cloud is the face of JRPGs
Its obvious what Sakurai is doing and i really like it. Zidane or Vivi woluld have been more unique characters and i wish people had better taste and FF9 had the popularity FF7 has. but god damnmit i can't be mad at all
I like the stage and its summons. That delayed slice on the platform satisfies my need for animu effects. It'd be nice if that knights of the round table summon appeared along with the iconic guys.
>>316495151
Parappa.
Jak
Ratchet.
Spike
SlyFuck it ,make it a PSAS vs Smash
>>316495085
Nobody ever did.
>>316495004
>Implying 9 damage is going to bruise Cloud
>>316495151
Sans
>>316494058
"GOOD MORNING SAKI"
>>316495151
Rance probably has the highest ratio of unexpectedness to famousness
>>316495269
>UE 4
>ON Wii U
Silky smooth negative fps
NX is more probable but if its really a hybrid then i wouldnt be suprised if its actually on par or even weaker than the WII U
>>316495205
In perspective, nobody saw Cloud coming because they just thought it was plain unlikely to happen. Nobody saw Snake coming because the idea was totally inconceivable at the time.
>>316495151
Goku
A belmont
Banjo Kazooie
>>316490020
no your not. your loading your eshop account with money so you can buy cloud when he is released. silly boy
>>316495437
>Final Smash: Hyper Weapon.
>>316495590
>>316495331
>implying Goku wouldn't solo the Smash universe
>>316495640
That reminds me, do we have a date yet?
>>316495389
Don't forget that Snake was the face of stealth
>>316495151
How would you react?
>>316495769
Still TBA
>>316495786
I'd be ok with this.
If Goku goes in then Superman needs to go in just so every big nerd fight from the 90s can be solved
>>316493958
>>316494948
>>316495205
Stop being so utterly fucking retarded. If Cloud was revealed instead of Snake back then, he MIGHT have been more surprising. Even then that's a stretch seeing as Cloud fits in much better with the Smash characters than Snake does.
The way things actually went, there's no way ANY character could EVER be more surprising than Snake was at the time. Not even Goku or Jesus or Hitler.
>>316495786
>>316495786
I'd give it a 5/10
>>316495151
Crash Bandicoot.
>>316493859
>A JOOBA DOOBA DABA PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>A MASHA HAKU TAKI PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>A HERBLA DEBLEH BLEH BLEH PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>A FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That song is the worst. The literal worst.
>>316495786
He had fine representation in Jump Ultimate Stars. I really liked how every attack and special summoned one of his monsters, always wished Kaiba made it in as a playable character.
>>316495719
There are characters on Goku's power level already in Smash.
>>316495826
>saiyan > man
multiply by sides by super > 0
>supersaiyan > superman
ez
>>316492819
What would his tag-line be?
>CHRONO
>IS ON TIME
or something
>>316495852
Nope. Putting Hitler in a children's game would definitely top it. Don't be stupid
>>316492128
Why are they so many idiots on the board lately that unironically thing Halo is good? Just play any arena shooter on PC for 5 minutes and you will realize how shit halo is
>>316495852
>Even then that's a stretch seeing as Cloud fits in much better with the Smash characters than Snake does.
Snake had starred in a nintendo game before. Twin Snakes even had mario references.
>>316495874
transl8
>>316495852
They're both pretty "what the fuck?", the question is what's more surprising to you.
For me, it was Cloud, and you can never change my feelings on that.
>>316495979
>>316495979
Whom?
>>316488874
Did nintendo have a press release where they explain why the fuck is cloud there? I mean is sakurai buddy buddy with someone at square? did someone at square ask for it? is it a promotion for the impending FF7 remake that will get a NX release? I don't get it, he is way too out of place.
>>316495324
you're like the poster boy of a dying industry
>>316496128
I thought it was obvious that this discussion is about the general reaction of the population as a whole, not your individual one.
>>316496347
Just accept that Smash has become a series in which not only Nintendo icons, but video game icons as a whole, can come together to duke it out.
>>316495151
you guys are being too easy with this question. You need someone iconic but who would have absolutely zero chance of getting in, not because they're unpopular but because Nintendo would never allow it. I'd say any particular horror character, like Freddy Krueger or Jason. If it has to be vidya, Scorpion.
You can't honestly say Cloud was more surprising unless you simply weren't there for Snake's reveal or were 7 and thus too stupid to understand its significance.
>>316496340
Nobody. Goku would wreck Kirby, Shulk etc at the same time
>>316496278
>>316496340
Shulk, Kirby(joke or not he blows up planets like it's nothing), Mewtwo.
>>316494918
This is how I know you're full of shit, at that point the entire catalog was
>LITERALLY WHO IS ROBIN
>LUCINA WHAT THE FUCK
>5 FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTERS
>GEMATSU BTFO
In fact that was probably the biggest shitstorm of Japan Time 2.0
>>316496537
we're in the worst timeline if people would get more hype over shit like Shovel Knight or Krystal than fuckin Cloud Strife
Nothing in gaming will ever be as shocking and a HOLY SHIT moment than Snake in Brawl.
>>316496659
>Shulk
Haven't played his game so don't know
>Kirby
Goku can end the universe now
>Mewtwo
A man made pokemon taking down a living god? nah
>>316495989
CHRONO
CLOCKS IN!
>>316496802
I think you're underestimating Mewtwo a bit
